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First for No Haven
Is it just me or the rng has changed? I get a lot more extreme results than the previous version...
>no submissive options for your own character in no haven
>>6896146
I just got a roll of 1% to crit a Marauding attempt and just got two Human Submissive - Sex Addict - Slutty - Beautiful - Debutante slaves. My slavers are now very happy, but I could certainly do with more trainers!
Also, to the developer, I took the "Unproven" negative trait at character creation but my slavers still started with full morale. Just a heads up.
>>6896146
It has not.
>>6896163
What do you mean by that? I mean sure I do mean to add a whole bunch more, but there's definitely some in there and some of them reasonably extensive.
>>6896179
>Also, to the developer, I took the "Unproven" negative trait at character creation but my slavers still started with full morale. Just a heads up.
Huh, no idea why that's suddenly broken. Cheers for the spot and will check it out.
>>6896182
really? how do I get to it?
>>6896182
Didn't know draenei had scaly tails uh
>>6896163
>literally a trait called secretly submissive
>>6896240
so what content does it unlock?
>>6895396
It's a /d/ miracle!
>>6896242
bad ends
>>6896247
>implying every sudden disaster fucking you over doesn't already count as bad end
>>6896238
Clearly a Fel Tainted Draenei (makes note for new corruption roll)
>>6896242
Off the top of my head: A bunch subby tatts, being dommed by two different secret priestesses, being beaten in a bar fight and having to suck off the victor, time in the stockades, having your attempts to hypnotise be turned round on you, being possessed by a demonic mistress, and the most extensive one (which I won't spoil) being in the assignment that unlocks with the hidden location.
I have a few, possibly dumb, questions about slaving in No Haven. First off, are Obedience, Dominance, Blowjobs, and Lesbian sex the only paths for training? I haven't fully done them yet and it's no real problem if that is all there is, just seems a bit shallower than I expected. Also, where do you even sell the slaves? The ones I have are worth less than 150 gold so are still Whoremaker Fodder but assuming once I do get something more valuable I'm not sure what to do with it. I did complete "Listening to Whispers" once and it seemed to give me a specific order it wanted filled but I didn't have anyone close to meeting those demands.
Also just now I noticed that in the Estimate Value results it uses the slave's current Condition score in the Current Will line, even when the two are different.
FCDev please improve the organ fabricator notification, like including the names of whose organs were those.
So BimboMallBattle is open source, which is awesome. I really want to make a similar game (wandering NPCs that do actions and get into trouble just like the player) but with a different mechanical and kink focus.
The problem is there is WAY too much to the game for me to be able to figure anything out from it.
Is there a open source game that has the basics but less content so it's easier to learn/expand from?
>>6896251
I think I managed to break the game by restarting while in the middle of selecting an assignement.
After character creation finished, as soon as I got to the encampment screen it was telling me to select someone for an asignment with -1 -1 0 and 0 chances of success.
And everytime I tried to to put a slaver on it, it gave me 100 error messages [One Error then another about Slaver 50, then One Error then another about Slaver 49 and so on]
Trap Quest dev here, a new version is up now with quite a few changes but it's probably quite buggy. Stand by for a hotfix within the next couple of days once I find out from you guys what's horribly broken.
>>6896308
It's worth noting that you can find a list of all organs (both fully grown and still growing with time remaining) under the Pharmaceutical Fabicator on the "Manage Arcology" screen.
That said, it is sorta clunky as implemented.
what's the mechanic for guards recognizing you in no haven?
>>6896356
that i didn't know
No haven: can you hypnotize slaves? says "you can hypnotize slaves at your leisure" but i can't find the option to actually do it
>>6896356
An implant all button in that screen would be awesome, save some time clicking through menus
>>6896246
Don't work for me, what RAGS version i need?
>>6896420
2.4.16 does the trick for me.
I also have a file VisualBasicPowerPacksSetup.exe in my RAGS download folder, so it might be needed on some Windows versions too.
Free Cities 0.7.5, "Say My Name," up at freecitiesblog dot blogspot dot com.
>Deep breath
Give a slave a hug. Give your arcology a name. Give your personal assistant a name. Give your personal assistant a high-five (over a slave's back, of course). Relax under attractiveness code that doesn't demand fully pierced and tattooed slaves unless you're running a future society that goes in for that kind of thing. Apply corset piercings and areolae studs if you /are/ running a future society that goes in for that kind of thing. Dress your girls in Bunny outfits, leotards, or a habit designed for the Chattel Religion. See more slices of life from the fun and relaxing lives of slaves serving as whores and sluts. Caress a slave's face. Help a slave who can't think of what to do for her wife. Make sure a slave learning the arcology's lingua franca doesn't forget the terms "sit," "stand," "butthole," or "assrape." Watch relationships become even more perverted as older slaves mentor their younger partners in how to be good sex slaves. Threaten new slaves who are pregnant with abortions if they don't obey you, or threaten new slaves who have balls with castration if they don't take it up the ass. Grope slaves' breasts, buttocks, and genitals. Deal with crude slaves by turning them into unflinching girls willing to do anything. Deal with judgemental slaves by redirecting that into a hunger for big dicks. Buy the drug purity upgrade for ¤500,000, if you aren't an enlightened Body Purist. Brand an Imperial Seal into a slave's pubic mound.
See this? This is what happens when anons contribute. Anon1888 and CornCobMan are the primary collaborators on this one.
Anyone know what the two new bad end things are in no haven?
>>6896464
>groping
This is the feature that I've been waiting for
>>6896464
I WILL SAY YOUR NAME, DIRTBAG.
>>6896464
>Leotards
I wanted this so bad but felt like it would be stupid to ask when bodysuits were already in.
>>6896464
>New outfits
>Abortion as a punishment.
>Reworked attractiveness.
At this rate I'm liable to tear my dick off.
>>6896464
Fcdev, Great dev? Or the greatest dev.
Can anyone help me with the Defiler Wings game? I'm on the quest where I'm supposed to first up my notoriety, then lower their mobilization. But these things tend to happen simultaneously for me, and the mistress doesn't accept it as mission complete. Should I refrain from robbing and razing villages and slowly increase my notoriety by raping girls and eating cows or what?
>>6896513
Have you been funding terrorist at the smuggler's den to lower mobilization?
>>6896464
>have to go to work in thirty minutes
FUCK
>>6896519
No, just razing villages and letting out the spawn you get when you kidnap girls. I'll try that though, thanks.
>>6896513
You raise it first, then lower it. they can be kind of tricky as you have to pass a certain notoriety threshold. Try raising it by robbing and other actions that don''t affect their poverty before trying to decrease your infamy
>>6896464
> corset piercings
So good
>>6896352
Hey aika. Thanks for the notice.
how the fudge do i "fully customize" my character in No Haven? All I see are presets?
>Trapquest, Free Cities, and No Haven updates in the same day
Are you people trying to give me friction burns?
>>6896559
After you choose a preset you can do the customizing, think of it as choosing a portrait
>>6896562
Oh. Thanks.
>>6896464
>Bunny outfits
This is the best day \o/
Or it would be if I could find them.
Are they locked behind one of the FS?
Pubic mound brands have been on my wishlist for a long-ass time, whoo.
Also that Chattel Habit is gonna get me to do a Chattel Religionist playthrough. The main 'problem' with that FS up to now has been the extremely limited set of 'acceptable' clothing options...
Hotfix is up, but it's minor. If you've been experiencing odd RA behavior with curatives set to No Default Setting, I've got good news. Otherwise, not a priority.
>>6896466
>This is the feature that I've been waiting for
Not that there's anything wrong with that, but CornCobMan deserves credit for not waiting. The caress, embrace, and the three grope options from slaves' individual menus are all him.
>>6896471
>I wanted this so bad but felt like it would be stupid to ask when bodysuits were already in.
I did my best to keep them distinct by making the leotard revealing and tight enough to show every pore, since the bodysuit is depicted as snug but comfortable.
>>6896480
>Fcdev, Great dev? Or the greatest dev.
Fucking kek. Pop the game open in Twine and behold more than 700,000 words of shambolic code. That'll cure you of your delusions.
>>6896521
>have to go to work in thirty minutes
>FUCK
As a general comment, I find the game looks very staid as long as the viewer isn't close enough to read the words.
>>6896551
>corset piercings
>So good
I ran out of time and didn't get to the obvious "May you please lace me up, Master <3?" event for trusting slaves with corset piercings.
>>6896472
>At this rate I'm liable to tear my dick off.
>>6896562
>Are you people trying to give me friction burns?
...IT IS A GOOD PAIN
>>6896575
>Bunny outfits
>This is the best day \o/
>Or it would be if I could find them.
>Are they locked behind one of the FS?
From the blogpost:
>Bunny outfits: nice clothes which serve as the Gender Fundamentalism-specific garment.
If you have questions about an update, check the blogpost. The changelog should be reasonably complete.
>>6896580
Can't play the game just yet, but does Chattel Religionism still have that minor rep bonus for wearing fitting clothing?
If so, would you consider doing something like that for the other Future Societies as well, making it so that multiple of the currently existing outfits give rep to FSs, rather than having outfits be locked to said FSs. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Having to sink a future society just to unlock a specific outfit doesn't feel great, especially when I only really want to stick a select few of my slaves in said outfit.
>>6896580
Just had this on the hotfix version.
Its a NewGame+ whore from 7.4.
Putting her into fucktoy position also breaks my reputation.
>>6896585
Aditional: I changed my FS from Paternalism to Gender traditionalism and it stopped breaking, maybe something wrong in the FS based attractiveness algorithms.
Also also, You don't have a FS called Gender Fundamentalism, its Gender Traditionalism
>>6896583
I think a class menu is kind of unlikely because a lot of classes are balanced around how easy/difficult they are to attain. How would you feel about using the points you earn on the fetish page to pay for a good starting class/earn extra points for a bad starting class.
>>6896580
100% honest here FC Dev, I always play every new version but I just can never get invested enough in this game to get to society building and shit.
>>6896602
I'd be really interested in your class/points suggestion! That's exactly what I'd love. Of course, it's all from a roleplay point of view as TQ has so many fetishes and outcomes to what kind of character you want to be.
I can't help but play like the game is originally intended: a female gamer (can be male but I always play female) who doesn't want to be a bimbo and plays the game to win (a gamers mindset of beating a challenge). So she walks to this facility and while the "new player" being nude character makes sense (as if starting out with a new character in an RPG game), having presets to pick such as a "history" could be so much interesting. Bad ones give you points like the Dungeon Slave but good ones take points like the school girl with intelligent gains. Although I can see it get broken somehow if you include the cow class and you start with JJ tits full of milk. Dunno if the game can calculate such starting stats.
It's just a suggestion. I typically purloin (yeah, I know) the stuff I want. I'll spawn a blouse and jeans with a zipper with the most normal panties (but not overly plain ones) and "pretend" they were in the wardrobe instead of the tube top and cursed milk bra. But as I said just a suggestion and seems Aika heard the past suggestions such as puddles from trap doors now.
I've just read the latest version changes and the wardrobe has random stuff now so this may change my whole playthrough! Thank you Aika!!!
>>6896623
Two things to add to my text-book:
1 - I keep the "newbie" tips on as if the player is playing the game for the first time. I'm not the only one that roleplays to such level, right?
2 - Classes would have to cost a significant amount if they give such a boost. I feel a lot of balancing issues would happen.
>>6896580
I'm a bit confused by the game giving me options to remove piercings I don't have.
>>6896643
You must unpierce them so thoroughly as to remove even the idea of them being pierced.
>>6896182
>Biomancy is still mostly a placeholder
I will be patient for now, but when I'm playing Fleshcult: RAGS edition I will be happy.
>>6896348
Never save or load the game in the middle of a dialogue. That's one of the first things the game tells you, you donut.
I wish the Pit fight logic/coding in FC wasn't so deterministic. You don't seem to get a lot of 'even' fights, usually one slave just steamrolls the other.
I might try messing with it, if only to rewrite the descriptions from vaguely gladiatorial stuff to something more like pro wrestling (like those porn vids I can't remember the name of right now, basically female wrestling but the winner gets to fuck the loser).
Hrmm, potential leadership position for the Pit? A McMahon-like Announcer?
>>6896358
just a dice roll
>>6896680
Ultimate Surrender? Yeah, same. I'd prefer oily wrestling to the striking based thing we've got now.
>>6896146
>No Haven bitching
oh look its that first post again
>>6896680
I think it would be cool for that part of the game to be expanded a bit.
>>6896676
I'm sorry, I mean I RESTARTED THE GAME.
>File
>Open a New Game
No saving or loading was used in the making of this fuck up.
Amazing that FC runs at all anymore, especially so smoothly.
>>6896704
That's still kinda loading, just a game file not a save.
Problem is that Rags keeps dialogues in use in its memory until they are concluded, you have to either finish the dialogue or alt+f4 the game to do literally anything else.
>>6896251
>almost all my slavers away for like a week so decide to try training a slave while my other does one
>no (trn) so it was risky
>crit success twice in a row
>while my slaver with (trn) crit fails
I feel like I should have earned the trait from that.
>>6896707
On the inverse, No Haven really slows down Rags now, you can feel it every time you save or load.
If Bedlam keeps working on it, that's eventually gonna get as bad as Overseer.
>>6896464
>Brand an Imperial Seal into a slave's pubic mound.
This is what the game has been missing.
>>6896733
Haven't been able to try the new version yet, but if there isn't a barcode brand option yet I'll be sad.
Barcode on pubic mound = win
>>6896251
>Off the top of my head: A bunch subby tatts, being dommed by two different secret priestesses, being beaten in a bar fight and having to suck off the victor, time in the stockades, having your attempts to hypnotise be turned round on you, being possessed by a demonic mistress, and the most extensive one (which I won't spoil) being in the assignment that unlocks with the hidden location.
Any chance of you telling the retards among us how to do those things?
I did the tats/bar fight, but couldn't find the two priestesses, demonic mistress, or the extensive one that I assume is behind the hidden "lord" area.
Up to 0.7.5.2 now. If you're having issues with imported slaves, manually selecting a rules assistant setting for corset and areolae piercings should sort them out. Alternatively, importing them through 0.7.5.2 will also do the job.
That was a stimulating 90 minutes of bullshit, over a very simple oversight.
>>6896707
>Amazing that FC runs at all anymore, especially so smoothly.
...
>>6896585
>>6896643
>>6896645
Should be fixed if you do the above.
>>6896597
>maybe something wrong in the FS based attractiveness algorithms
I thought so too. Turned out it was the goddamned pissing-in-my-coffee rules assistant again. That bitch.
>You don't have a FS called Gender Fundamentalism, its Gender Traditionalism
The reverse actually. I make the same mistake.
>>6896584
>Having to sink a future society just to unlock a specific outfit doesn't feel great
I'm not satisfied with it either, but I haven't been able to come up with a satisfactory alternative. I don't want future society optimization to force clothing choices (Chattel Religionism is a special case for obvious reasons). I'd like different playthroughs to feel different, and nudging the same player out of the same choices every time is one way to do that. Also, the clothes closet is getting pretty stuffed, and limiting some of it to playthroughs that fit the style is one way to cut down the clutter.
>>6896612
>I always play every new version but I just can never get invested enough in this game to get to society building and shit.
And that's fine. In fact, that's how FC was originally meant to be played. I was surprised when playtesters started to take games past 10 slaves and 50 turns.
>>6896680
>I wish the Pit fight logic/coding in FC wasn't so deterministic.
Me too, but it turns out coding combat is time consuming. It's on the to do list, but it's pretty far down because of that.
>>6896738
>if there isn't a barcode brand option yet I'll be sad.
Custom brand is planned.
>You can kiss, hold hands and now hug your slaves
please stop my heart can only beat so fast
>>6896816
The best is when you're nice to your slaves, but it's because they're so broken that they like being slaves.
Paternalism can totally be an 'evil' FS (hint: Paternalism doesn't care if slaves are drugged into moronicness, as long as they're educated). I am totally doing a 'nicely evil' Paternalism/Chattel Religionist game when I get home... >:)
>>6896779
I can understand the desire to encourage players to try new things but, and this might just be me, I feel like it's having the opposite affect. Like, when I saw the bunny suits, I was thinking of actually focusing on and customizing my club for once, but I like dicks too much to want to deal with Fundementalism, so that idea went down the shitter before I even got to open up the new update. And because I'm restricted in the options for my slaves, I end up just dressing them in the same way most of the time.
As for optimization, I figure if you've got 4 societies each with maybe 3-5 preferred outfits, which don't even need to be new outfits, then it's not hard to use a decent variety of outfits while still getting a bonus, and that's supposing the bonus would even be something large enough to warrant worrying about in the first place.
However, if you're feeling the closet's getting too crowded as it is, I guess there isn't much for it.
So what arcologies add points to heavy piercing and heavy tattoo?
>>6896779
How about a clothing store so you can start with only a few basic selections then buy (in bulk to justify a high cost) as many outfits as you feel you want to bloat your wardrobe with. You can have a factory arcology upgrade that decreases the cost (and perhaps boosts prosperity), along with future societies providing a significant discount to the heavily expensive unique outfits.
That way you are guided to specific outfits by future societies, but people who really want them can pay an exorbitant fee without the society.
[can'tspoilon/d/]highleg thong leotard school unforms for paternalists when
It's been a long time since I played free cities, how do I make my slave's breasts as big as possible?
>>6896929
I'll take pity on your inept ass. An industrialized dairy will make slaves' breasts so big you won't even be able to move them out.
Next time you decide to beg in two threads instead of just reading the damn in-game wiki, at least contribute a relevant image.
>>6896942
Nevermind, Patreon unlocks work for all future versions apparently. I'm a fucking retard.
Please accept porn as an apology.
>>6896464
boom, here goes Bedlam's spotlight kek
>>6896946
Your tone is less than inspiring.
>>6896929
Start giving your slave boob-growth drugs and never stop. You'll probably need to let them spend a lot of time resting as a result.
>>6896960
And your contribution is less than present.
>tfw crit the succubus assignment in No Haven in thew first try
>tfw get through the auction on the first try
>tfw the Cathayan caravan solved my supplies problem time after time
This is so good, it was worth playing until 2am
>>6896779
Any changes planned for the Encyclopedia? A few things such as the Flaws page not containing links to the various flaws, and such, have been pet peeves of mine enough I've been fiddling with Twine to optimize things a bit. If this goes anywhere, you aren't already implementing any changes this might mess with, and it's all to your taste, I may have something to submit.
>>6896352
I switched to a new comp and forgot the website. Can someone help out please?
>>6896779
>s. Eventually, she relaxes totally and her eyes gradually close, melting in your arms. When you finally stop and relax your embrace, her eyes remain closed and her mouth still in a rapturous shape for a moment before she slowly opens her eyes and smiles at you with a blissful look on her face. Her hand reaches to your arms and she strokes them longingly. "I love you, Master," she says dreamily. She looks at you, almost begging you with her eyes that she wants much more than a mere embrace.
This is turning into slave waifu simulator and I love it.
>>6896948
can you link the patreon version?
>>6896779
Does using the assistant set to girlish still just bloat their lips to huge and fuck up their other assets while never getting them to a girlish figure?
>>6897025
For future reference there's several ways to back up your bookmarks so that doesn't happen.
Also the link is literally the name .com
how do you power bottom in freecities
>>6897058
am I being rused?
>>6896779
Does choosing the youth FS still fuck up the way it's presented in the FS list?
Also, separate limits for automatic growth injections (or at least the lip one) when? I want my slaves to have lips, not lipth.
>>6897073
You don't
>>>>/trapquest/
>>6897081
No, you're being retarded.
>>6896779
>all these cute events and interections with your slaves
You're killing me FCDev. You are driving a saccharine dagger straight into my heart.
>>6897096
says the guy who doesn't know what literall means :^)
>>6897090
Fucking this, the injections always go way over on lips and ass and never far enough on tits, and there needs to be one for cock and ball growth, as well as a setting the uses preventatives and hormone supplements, as it is the auto mode is such as pain I end up having to do it one by one, which gets really tedious to 20+ slaves.
The auto surgeon could use some settings to help with this maybe something to set an amount to cap assets at and if the asset is over it adjusts down, auto removal of implants would be nice too. Honestly it would be nice to have limiters in a few places, the pent house comes to mind, once rep is capped I would rather they be out working instead of cuddling, except the concubine of course, but I don't think 10 bedslaves are necessary when the brothel, club and milker have room.
>>6897117
Goddamn, those spelling errors, time for bed.
>>6897104
Different guy, I'm just someone capable of understanding colloquial definitions. Do you also get confused when you hear a human female described as a bitch?
Also
>Using the smiley with the caret nose
>>6897120
I don't know if this is some meta level shitposting or what but in case you are a newfag I was literally pretending to be retarded and that emoticon denotes that
>>6897128
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting, anon. And ">Using the smiley with the caret nose" is a /g/ joke, and that specific smiley is exclusively used on /g/. The fact that you don't know that makes me think that you are new.
Plus, you're new enough to use the word newfag.
>>6897148
>it is exclusively used on /g/
you had me going for a second there
>>6897157
See this is why people hate the whole pretending to be retarded schtick, too many people don't know when to stop. Say your piece, maybe nudge a few people who got bootybothered, and move on. Dragging it out only detracts from the original joke and makes you look like one of those people who only know how to get attention by being annoying. It's really unflattering.
>>6897073
You write it yourself and send it to the author to add to the game since no one knows what "power bottoming" is supposed to look like.
Does anyone know of any visual novels containing huge breasts and/or breast expansion?
>>6897175
I don't think anyone here plays VNs, best ask the VN general on /vg/
are there any games with weird monster girls in them?
>>6897181
yes
>>6897181
CoC & TiTS quickly come to mind, although it hugely caters to furries if you don't mind that. Flexible Survival is in the same taste as the previously mention games.
>>6897185
This type of posting is as funny as the "pump up kicks" garbage meme. Be constructive or fuck off, please. Always gotta have these "yes" posts in these threads and it's so aggravating to see someone think that this is funny when all it really does is show everyone else what a fucking waste of life can accomplish if it has a keyboard under its dumb fingers.
>>6896276
There are more training paths that that and there's a lot more still to come.
There is now a way to unlock slave auctions where you sell your more valuable slaves (hint: you need to do stuff in the deep mountains).
Thanks for the spot.
>>6896393
Not yet, that's basically a placeholder for latter planned content.
>>6896977
Glad you're enjoying it!
>>6897181
Seriously though, how weird are we talking? monster girl quest is pretty popular, haven't played it myself though. No haven has lamias and ogres as well as more conventional fantasy races. There's breeding seasons which is tad grindy and furry, but breeding monster girls is a cool concept.
>>6897191
Is everything all right? you seem a bit high strung.
>>6896352
Do you ever plan to add in any more fetishes? If so what kind?
new to rags, is there a way to change it so that the UI doesn't make me want to off myself?
>>6897236
No, it can't change. It's a terrible, terrible engine and I have no idea how Bedlam managed to make such a complex game in it
>no sub content for no haven or freecities
fuu
>>6896774
>Any chance of you telling the retards among us how to do those things?
>A bunch subby tatts
Visit tavern.
>being dommed by two different secret priestesses
Visit town, investigate rumors, bonus chance for persuasive trait.
>being beaten in a bar fight and having to suck off the victor
Visit tavern.
>time in the stockades
Visit town, become an investor, visit town.
>having your attempts to hypnotise be turned round on you
This is a new one, cool. I assume it's just a nightly action failure, if you have Hypnotic trait.
>being possessed by a demonic mistress
Also a new one. Corrupt a slave - critical failure. I really hope this will be expanded upon, as a way of allowing submissive slave leaders to stay leaders. With the demoness just chilling in the back of their head, making them do submissive things, watching, but enforcing her will when slavers want to rebel.
>>6897236
>new to rags
get out while you still can
>>6897253
First, No Haven does have sub content, it's just not the sort of cancer that sub content normally is, consuming the entirety of the game. As for Free Cities:
>a game about owning and totally controlling the lives of your slaves doesn't allow you submit to them at all
Shocker. There are even explanations for why it's totally disallowed ingame, even if the more realistic reason is that FCdev has no interest in making anything like that.
It's not like you're starved for content; you can enjoy the literally dozens of sub games on tfgamessite.
>>6897286
Not the same anon here, just adding my 25 cents:
Quality of games on tfgames just isn't that great concerning sub content, though. All games are centered around MtF (duh) but make you live it as some bimbo slut that loves getting fucked. That's not sub, that's feminization. There's just no forum/place for sub games (as far as i know). There's that hypnocollection place for hypnosis so there's some weird forums for those type of fetishes but actual sub? Actually having the choice to run up and escape or kneel and accept servitude? Just ain't there, mate.
I can't even remember any good games where I was genuinely excited about having the choice to escape/resist or be a sub and have life easier (apart from Trap Quest, which seems to be the only contender for top spot). There was one game but you could only look around the starting area, pick clothes/collar out and then exit out the door - game was unfinished and I think it's dead.
>>6897286
>There are even explanations for why it's totally disallowed ingame
Where at? I couldn't find it in the glossary.
>>6897330
Try actually reading the game's text. Also, gender radicalism.
>>6897196
>Not yet, that's basically a placeholder for latter planned content.
Does RAGS seriously not have a way for you to dummy out content you've programmed in but don't want accessible to the public?
It feels like half the stuff I do in No Haven has flavor text and accessibility but does FUCKING NOTHING which is in a game where wasting time that could be used earning back your extremely tight stores of gold and supplies is a huge penalty.
>>6897331
But if I stopped to read, how will I satisfy my need to make the numbers in the sidebar bigger//
Yo, I'm looking for a programmer partner to collaborate with. I'm an artist.
>>6897347
Pretty vague. What kind of project are you planning to do and what kind of stuff do you need programmed. Also post work.
>>6897332
Which is why there's a list at the beginning at the game so people don't waste their time.
Though slave hypno was missing I'll admit. Added it on there.
>>6897347
>I'm an artist
Show me what you got. what have you done.
>>6897347
post art, artist.
Two questions on TiTS:
1. What's the easiest way for a human female to obtain a futa dick with no balls?
2. How does one gain "Exhibitionism Experience" in it and where, if anywhere, is this mechanic displayed?
Holy shit! I'm kind of regretting making this my Secretly Submissive run.
>>6897388
Doing better than me man. My second in command is Shaltooth Warsnapper, an Ogre with the traits of Peaceful and Friendly.
>>6897347
what kind of game are you looking to make?
>>6897392
According to the description, Ogres are simple super strong oafs, so that's not at all strange.
Also, my human northerner SIC got abducted by elves on a successful run (my mistake, shouldn't have sent such a valuable asset on a certain death mission) so now I picked the stylish forest goblin beastmistress as my right hand because she's the only one without stupid traits. Things are going surprisingly well for now.
>>6897386
1. Take Throbb, buy it from Penny. If you take enough you get balls, if you take too much it leads to bad end. If you get balls you can remove them via Doctor Lash.
So how come cheat engine doesn't work on No haven? Works fine in curse and other rags game..
>>6897476
It makes a check for isGud and if you don't pass invokes gitGud() instead.
>>6897480
>monkey's humor
>>6897465
Thanks.
>the fucking horrifyingness of the dark future
>>6896779
I'm surprised that your keeping the rules assistant in. Most people would've ripped it out because of the huge amount of problems you seem to be having with it. I'm glad though, because eventually it will work very well and make life easier when I'm playing this game.
>>6897386
>2. How does one gain "Exhibitionism Experience" in it and where, if anywhere, is this mechanic displayed?
Becoming Sera's sub will sometimes raise your exhibitionism when she fucks you in public.
The trap bar tender on the rust planet will raise it.
Then when you get the exhibitionist score high enough you can just masturbate in public to raise it.
The score should be displayed on the statistics screen.
sorry if this has been asked before.
On No Haven how do i get the "scavenge around the camp" option to work. i click on it click a number and it does nothing what am i doing wrong?
>>6897503
Scavenge around Camp
"How many Slavers do you want to assign to this"
"1"
"You do not have enough Slavers"
Scavenge around camp is a desperate mesure only, it barely gets you enough supplys to last out a day and it makes everyone you send on it upset.
>>6897503
Having seen other mention that you're almost certainly using the wrong version of RAGS. The required version is on all the download pages and at the beginning in bold.
I don't know how I can make that any more clear.
>>6897507
Are trait changes for character creation gonna be in the next fix today? Might as well wait with starting a new game if they are.
>>6897507
Q_Q my first post on this sub btw. and im using 3.0.60 ill go check for an updated version
>>6897511
You have to use the previous version 2.4 not 3.0
>>6897515
thx
>>6897329
>newfag mad he got called out for being and idiot
>>6897518
You forgot your name field, DrPill.
>>6897522
Wanna know how I know you're new?
>>6897526
Please tell me, Mister Expert on shitposting and thread derailment.
>>6897526
I've been here since 2007, mate. In my experience only people incredibly new go around calling other people new.
All the oldfags stopped caring about that shit long ago.
>>6897533
The low hanging fruit is that you haven't heard the constant discussion about fc or played it enough to not need to ask that question. The second is saying Dr. pill the Local non-contributory namefag, even though he usually helps people out with stuff you'd need to look at the code to see, and has made a couple mods.
>>6897535
why is it always 2007? And I don't care all that much that someone is new, it just adds a cherry on top of the shit cake that is not doing your due diligence.
>>6897545
I started browsing here back when Code Geass was airing, man. It didn't matter to me if you believe me or not, just don't try to pull the oldfag card when you're (probably) newer than me.
>>6897576
never claimed to be an oldfag, only started browsing around 2010ish myself. I meant it as new to the general not new to the website.
>>6897580
sounds like a plan. has anyone here played simtentacle? Is there a way to make tentacle dollars besides idling in your base or selling things?
>tfw you finally brain out how No Haven's arrays in Rags Designer
I HAVE SO MUCH POWER.
>>6897580
>Implying this general every discusses games
When you're not sucking FC Dev's dick you're arguing about definitions.
Not to mention that the games that occasionally do get brought up are explicitly against the rules of /d/.
>>6897545
>and has made a couple mods.
Sorry, that's not true. My contribution to FC has been proofreading (finding typos and grammatical mistakes), suggestions, and *one* event that Boney M converted to code.
Perhaps I overreacted in my initial post, but if I'm going to spoonfeed a lazy ass, the beggar has no right to complain about the suppository.
>>6897595
I got mixed up on who made that dw mod. Speaking of which does anyone have a link? It got removed from the pastebin.
>>6896352
>Trap Quest
Says I have a dick. Pic of Vag. Why is this still a thing? Fix it
Anyone got a mega link to an English version/patch of naked king?
Any good games involving dullahans/headlessness?
pic related
>>6897627
>Why is this still a thing?
Because you're using the porn version.
>>6897356
>Which is why there's a list at the beginning at the game so people don't waste their time.
Yeah, just make the end user keep track of all the broken features.
>>6897595
>spoonfeed
Wow, what a sophisticated fauxnon you are. Whining and dropping a generic site buzzword used by toolboxes instead of just not fucking posting.
Who the fuck whines about THEIR OWN ACTIONS? Make up your mind about whether you're going to be genuinely helpful or just a genuine bitch. It literally takes more effort to add the additional whiny bit to your post and does absolutely nothing to curb people requesting help.
>>6897658
This. It's not fucking hard to append all your broken features with the text "THIS IS BROKEN XD LOL" and make it not consume the user's action in RAGS if it isn't possible to dummy out the content entirely.
Video games are not chores. Don't turn them into one.
>>6897671
I mean no disrespect to bedlam but everyone here knows that if he did that he would forgot to take it out after he finished it .
>that FC scene when the AI asks you to name her
Fucking FCDev, stop making me feel emotions like this for a fictional computer program inside a real computer program.
Just wondering, what kind of requirements are needed for the different "industrial" settings in the dairy? Any time I try to add either the pregnancy or anal ones, most/all of the slaves are ejected.
>>6897790
their holes aren't big enough. If you want industrial than just activate the moderate level of the stuff, don't go industrial for a while. If you watch the status reports about the dairy it will talk about how the cows' holes are getting bigger. After a few weeks try going industrial. Another option is use the dildo and the butt plugs and just use the largest size of those.
Does anyone know what these witches do? Google translate says it's "Body... Uncontrolled... A lot of knowledge... Continues to flow into my mind..." followed by losing ten tentacles and preceded by a yes or no prompt.
>Sorry, this RAGS file is unreadable
JUST
I want to be a monstergirl or trap, suggest me a game /ddg/
>>6897819
Read the thread.
>>6897819
http://bedlamgames.tumblr.com/For%20help%20running%20my%20games%20in%20RAGS
>>6897820
CoC can do both, trapquest for traps obviously.
>>6897817
It's chinese. I only know because they aren't moonrunes.
Also, source? Even if I cannot read it it seems like an interesting game to check out.
>>6897825
I know you said you'd keep the new submissive event a secret but could you at least set up a wiki or something? The game has a lot of secrets and having at least some general pointers to which missions to prioritize depending on your preferences (dom vs sub) and fetishes would be appreciated.
You wouldn't even have to do it yourself but at least we'd have a central point as players to consult instead of asking in threads every time a new update comes out and we forgot half of the ways to unlock hidden events/missions
>>6897864
I've said to anyone who's asked that I'm entirely happy them setting up a wiki for the game, hell I'd be overjoyed if they did and would certainly provide any info that was requested and would link to it both on my tumblr, the threads and in game.
Not doing it myself though as my priority is working on the game which is time and energy consuming enough as it is.
>>6897355
>>6897360
>>6897373
>>6897394
Here's a couple of enemies I came up with for the game. Though here's some work that I've done
http://imgur.com/a/PxBqm
http://imgur.com/a/uDgK8
Also the project will be a top-down exploration game where the player explores the dream world, find secret areas, and solve puzzles. There will be some top-down zelda-like gameplay, but exploration is the highlight of the game. This game will feature a variety of fetishes, so I'm still looking to get some suggestions.
>>6897896
Zombie hand?
Boring and Generic.
Go for a Disembodied hand, like Thing from The Addams Family.
Call it Thinger.
are there any rags or gargoyle games that are worth it?
Are there any tutorials out there for making a CoC style of game? I don't have any programming experience, but I'd still like to write interactive smut for you guys, and I was hoping to avoid Twine because I'm not really sure it can handle stats or character customization all that well.
I got to the 5th map in Crossing Knightmare and the combat is just so slow and so boring I can't force myself to finish it. But I found out there's a Crossing Knightmare Deep. Does it have any extra content worth starting over to see or is it all in that optional second game that's only sex scenes.
>>6897912
>I was hoping to avoid Twine because I'm not really sure it can handle stats or character customization all that well.
It can handle them well enough, from what I've seen. Porting the game later down the line is an option.
>>6897595
>>6897664
I asked the original question and have only posted twice in this thread.
I don't come to 4chan much and forget general rules of 4chan etiquette.
I'm generally happy to contribute and show appreciation for other people's time and effort.
Yet when someone decides to be a cunt, there's no real motivation to show appreciation, I'd rather just not waste any more time and fuck off with my information. Plus I don't want to reward a cunt for being a cunt so I'm even less inclined to contribute something meaningful.
>>6897950
Stop.
>>6897864
simtentacles, links in the pastebin.
>>6896994
>Any changes planned for the Encyclopedia? A few things such as the Flaws page not containing links to the various flaws, and such, have been pet peeves of mine enough I've been fiddling with Twine to optimize things a bit. If this goes anywhere, you aren't already implementing any changes this might mess with, and it's all to your taste, I may have something to submit.
That would be outstanding. I'll leave the encyclopedia alone until you send me what you have - do that by email, please, freecitiesdev at gmail.
>>6897054
>Does using the assistant set to girlish still just bloat their lips to huge and fuck up their other assets while never getting them to a girlish figure?
>>6897090
>Also, separate limits for automatic growth injections (or at least the lip one) when?
>>6897117
>Fucking this, the injections always go way over on lips and ass and never far enough on tits,
This should be partially addressed now. The RA will now pull slaves off those drugs if they're at or over the designated targets, and be less generous with the lipth. It has to be active to do that, though.
>>6897492
>I'm surprised that your keeping the rules assistant in. Most people would've ripped it out because of the huge amount of problems you seem to be having with it. I'm glad though, because eventually it will work very well and make life easier when I'm playing this game.
Well, I wouldn't play the game myself if it didn't have an RA.
>>6897751
>Fucking FCDev, stop making me feel emotions like this for a fictional computer program inside a real computer program
No.
>>6897790
>Just wondering, what kind of requirements are needed for the different "industrial" settings in the dairy?
>>6897813 is correct. The easiest method however is to put the slaves on wallbutt/glory hole duty. They'll rapidly get wrecked to the point where the Industrial Dairy will fit inside them just fine.
>>6897887
Well would you look at that, an event idea in jpg format.
>>6897986
Are you ever planning on changing how nymphomaniacs still get nicknames for fetishes they don't specifically have?
>>6897986
And youth pref. description not starting on its own row after it has been selected?
>>6897922
Ah shit son.
I haven't seen that image before and i played through the game.
I tried finding info but no results.
Would love to see if there's a guide or translation floating around somewhere.
are there any games about gender bending where you don't play as the one getting bent but as the friend that can't control his lust for the character that is switched?
>>6898003
Play FC, pretend everyone is your friend and you were secretly part of underground advanced society.
>>6897817
bump
>>6898003
My initial reaction was that that would be a pretty boring game, if you aren't even the one doing the gender bending. But then I thought about it some more. You could probably make something kinda neat about managing how lewd you push your relationship so that you don't end up pushing them away or ruining the relationship. Probably best as a VN or something like that.
>>6898014
was thinking something like a vn where the choices turn them into either a sex slave, a lover type thing, thing go back to normal, or you screw everything up and end up losing everything would be cool. kind of like the xchange series but from a different perspective.
does alignment in whorelock's revenge do anything?
>>6897997
I found it in the special artbook/manual so I don't know if its actually in the game or anything. But this is the guide I used to get through the game.
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=22201&page=3
What's the difference between hypnotic and dominator in no haven?
Does anyone have new life 0.3.23 patron build?
When it says "lower threshold for betrayal" does that mean loyalty has to be lower for it to happen or it's more likely to happen for Demi-Angels?
>>6898100
I don't believe so, I've checked /ddg/ and /aco/ since it was released and either it hasn't been uploaded or nobody has wanted to share it. I want to make some custom female NPCs.
>play simtentacles
>skills always miss
Are there any point to them?
OK, I could use some input for Free Cities from Paternalist anons. There have been a bunch of requests in past threads for a way for slaves to continue their old professions - dancer, doctor, counselor, etc. - in the arcology. I'm experimenting with a couple of different ways of implementing this, and I'd like a bit more detail on what you're thinking here.
A lot of pre-slavery careers, particularly the uneducated ones, are going to be useless in the arcology. (Delivery driver? We have drones for that.) But for something that could still be applicable, like a counselor, are you imagining a completely normal, old world style counseling office that just happens to be staffed by a slave? Or are we talking counseling with happy endings included with the fee, here? Something else?
>>6897990
>Are you ever planning on changing how nymphomaniacs still get nicknames for fetishes they don't specifically have?
No, this is working as intended. I could change the distribution, but nymphos really do go in for anything.
>>6897996
>And youth pref. description not starting on its own row after it has been selected?
Good report, but little shit like this really, really belongs on the blog. freecitiesblog dot blogspot dot com. If your religion proscribes using Blogger or some shit, just email me. freecitiesdev at gmail.
>>6898204
I hadn't thought of something like that. I usually just try to match old professions with the closest job. Like, nurses, counselors and the like tend to be made attendants, teachers teach, dancers and other entertainers go to the club, things like that. I'd also like to hear other anons' ideas for making their slaves' backgrounds more relevant.
>>6897817
If I'm not mistaken I think they replenish mana.
>>6898204
Just as an example of a slave-owning society that used slaves in professional situations, the Romans. Many doctors in the Roman empire were slaves. So that's an example where slaves were treated with some dignity. How about a Future Society called "Slavery Acceptance" or something along that line. The final law will enact protections for slaves and allow your slaves to continue their pre-slavery jobs and you can either contract them out to people. Say if "Sugar-Tits" Alice was a secretary before you gave her 6400CC boobs than you can staff her out as a non-sexual secretary for a company based in your arcology. Same with school teachers. What better way to teach the children of the arcology how awesome slavery is than by them being taught by a slave who loves her masters cock in whatever hole he wants.
>>6898204
>Delivery Driver
Next on FreeCities, Freerange Dairy.
Have you cowgirls roam the city, dilivering fresh milk to paying customers.
Make use of the new Dairy Float, where a skilled delivery driver will be able transport your cow girls along their dairy route more efficiantly.
Also Sex.
Freerange is the way forward.
Can you do anything with the nun in the town in No Haven or is it just a waste of money?
>>6898222
happy, healthy cows do produce the best milk
>>6898222
I'm somehow visualizing the FC PC as a hipster now.
>>6898228
Someone told me the other day that named cows that you talk to produce 1.5% more milk.
>>6898222
>slaves pulling a carts full of lactating slaves
>at stops they charge to drink milk straight from the source
>driven by a slave who has a CDL
my god the possibilities.
>>6898203
I mostly spam attack, the poison and absorb usually hit put the enemies don't live long enough for it to help and you end up saving more health by killing the enemy sooner with basic attacks. I've never had sleep or the slave skills hit.
Does anyone know how to upload trap quest to play in Quixe (web based interpreter)
Trying to get it to work on android, since I couldnt get it to work any other way
>>6897025
The name is trapquest . com
>>6898204
>OK, I could use some input for Free Cities from Paternalist anons.
Having thought about this way too much, I have a thought on that. The best way to make Paternalism work is to give the slaves jobs, yes?
Well, the best source of jobs should be the Corporation, but at present, that's rather boring in FC. No offense. Since it's just a bunch of basic numbers with little interaction, there is very little to actually manipulate.
But what about the Arcology itself?
You have upgrades, namely the Security Drones, Solar Apron, Computer Core, Hydroponic Farms, and three strata of living spaces for lower, middle, and upper classes. By taking the same code and applying it to these upgrades, you could place slaves directly into Arcology facilities.
You have the foundation for Security Guards, Maintenance Crew, Programmers, Farmers, and Attendants for upper/middle/lower class citizens. You could assign slaves to different roles within these facilities based upon responsibility and autonomy (standard security guard, head of the guard, communal sex slave for the guard, etc).
In these same menus, you could give the player closer control over the Arcology lifestyle. The player could adjust the rent, the societal privileges, and the laws and punishments for each social class in the facility.
This also opens up more interactions with Future Societies, which will often emphasize different rules for different tiers (rights of commoners versus upper class privilege, for example) or boost different parts of the Arcology (paternalistic food boost, roman security upgrade, etc).
>>6898378
Continued.
Ultimately, focusing on the Arcology instead of the corporation will help us feel like an actual owner of the massive living space. Do you want the rich to have free reign in a palace of debauchery, as long as the money keeps rolling in? Do you support the rights of the common folk and slaves alike, forming a populist utopia? Can your average working joe expect a communal sex slave stationed in the bunkhouse, or does society demand respect for the indentured servants working their way upward?
I know it sounds like a tangent from Paternalism, but the ultimate goal of the paternal lifestyle is to see your slaves flourish. To do so, some of them need to find legitimate work, and the best way to do that is expand control over the Arcology and allow them to carry out duties almost like a normal citizen.
>>6897912
step 1 l2html5
there is no step 2
caveat: if someone mentions react, flee
in general, don't try to be a fucking hipster. you're writing a single page app, that puts words on the screen, lets users click pretty buttons and somehow retains state
>>6898401
Hey React is great, its just that it quickly leads into Flux/Immutable/Webpack/Node complexity hell.
>perfect head girl waifu I've trained carried over several NG+s gets an event where she wants me to buy her twin sister
>costs 200000 shekels and I'm just in week 10 of a new game
FUCK
FUCK
FUCKFUCKFUCK
R.I.P Fleshcult, we hardly knew ye
>>6898421
that is literally why you should avoid react like the plague
use libraries that are actually libraries that give you the option of mixing in webpack or maybe flux or redux or whatever flavor-of-the-month neat thing you found
react either isn't there or going directly off the deep end with a "toolchain" that feels like someone's attempt at re-implementing the entirety of GCC in bash
scratch all of that, just go use elm or clojurescript /w reagent like a normal person
Anyone have a guide on how to look at RAGS arrays in CE, specifically no haven? I honestly just want to have a good fap rather than grind my way through slaver management for 5 hours.
>>6898457
I don't know why you'd play No Haven then.
>>6898458
Mainly because I just like reading smut. I've tried multiple playthroughs but in the end, the ratio of frustration at rng to actual fapping was way too fucking skewed. It's like I'm playing x-com or some shit
>>6898441
Actually it's pretty easy to use React by itself, just keeping everything in a top level state wrapper component that manages everything.
It's just hard to find examples of this when all the examples these days cover the difficult cases, back in the day (I guess last year).
Either way, since it'd be an offline game, you can probably just use localstorage as a simple object to store and manage all your data state.
>>6898469
If you're migrating from a different language ecosystem, yeah, that'll work
newbies will see progressively more and more esoteric jargon and references to 1-man projects on github that have 20 commits and no live branches and just curl up in a ball on the floor
>>6898469
>just use localstorage
and you've just send some newbie on a 2 hour wild goose chase :v
(if you just want localstorage, you actually want localFORAGE so you can forget about browser bullshit and just slam data into a hole)
pouchdb is pretty alright for when you need an actual database inside a browser
Parasite Infection
http://www.tfgamessite.com/index.php?module=viewgame&id=847
1.5 - laid out the structure for chapter 5. Altered the art for the bathroom orgy to reflect new breast infestation option.
-Tentacle Pits now cause 5 chaos per day.
-Remove action check from Sandra re: incubation
-Removed action check from Jessica re: incubation
-Excised all trace of breast enhancement for the mall.
-Added Research Option for Upgraded Pheromones to the mall.
-Gate for Chapter 5 - sets $upgradedPheromone to 0 if unresearched.
-Added passage: Breeding Hive
-Added passage: eggpository, the special for Vitamin World
-Added passage: lotionbath, the special for Bath and Body Works
-Added passage: bodymassage, the special for the Body Shop
-Modified ChaosEvent1 so you can gain a slave w/ upgraded pheromones
-Modified MallDailyCycle so chaosEvents can be stopped.
-Modified Epic Salon, so the Breeding Hive happens somewhere.
-Modified Courtyard, so the Breeding Hive can be triggered.
-Modified Vitamin World, Bath and Body, and Body Shop, for above.
-I don't know what variables I was referencing for Vitamin World, but they weren't ones from this game. This has been fixed.
-Changed research appearance if in Epic Salon - should be right now.
-Added endif to VS.
-Changed JoanPlot3, JoanPlot13, because $visited ain't right.
-Infesting the bodyshop now requires the parasites it uses.
-Eat Fresh now uses the parasites it requires.
-Added vaguely menacing line to Preparations and Courtyard, for trying to leave without the BloomingSnake at all.
-Changed ChaosEvent1 - pitting the molesters happens at $chaosPlot 2
attached - the direction the new art is heading in
>>6898486
looks more like a stylized fluke than a werm
>>6897041
2nding this request
http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?t=571078&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=225&sid=b2a39253ba540c52792225ff758bb302
also this cheat engine table doesn't work for the new one. It may get updated in the future though so keep it bookmarked
>random porn in the meantime
>>6898486
I dislike you as a person but greatly enjoy your game.
>>6898224
If you are corrupt you can molest her for money and xp.
>>6898426
Just make you're perfect waifu twins during character creation. Though I guess that's not how waifus work, even in porn games.
>>6898522
that's good, innit? fluke's a good iconic parasite. 'liver fluke you could fuck' is a good aesthetic for this
>>6898522
The "werm" was based off of a fluke originally.
>>6898224
There's a pretty obscure but powerful effect to the point that I doubt many players will connect the dots that can happen if you donate to her and get lucky.
>>6898706
Any eventual plans to transfer over no haven to an open source alternative?
>>6898709
It's always a possibility to get No Haven off RAGS and obviously would be a great idea to do so.
Given the amount of work and length of time it'd take though it's not something I'm going to confirm or discuss any details on until it's an absolute certainty.
>>6898464
At least X-Com let you ignore the RNG by taking your guys, loading them down with Large Rockets, AC-HE and AC-IC with a few Rifles for troops that can actually maybe aim at things, and just shitting explosions and fire everywhere. No way to do anything like that in No Haven. It could really use a difficulty slider at the bare minimum, something to boost resources or just give a 10% bonus to odds of success or something.
>>6898711
No Haven overhaul confirmed.
>>6898729
NO HAVEN: IRONMAN IMPOSSIBLE
>>6898729
The success rates seem fine, but securing supplies should be tweaked to not be quite as random and dependent on luck and starting rolls.
>>6898729
You have to be selective with them but the new assignment type related traits under misc (moving to their own selection with today's hotfix) are roughly about 10% increase in odds to success.
There's also been a bunch of assignments designed for awhile now to help with the supplies issue. Probe the Infestation and Word in your Ear for two of them.
