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Angelic Edition

Discuss lewd games, share your projects and have others critique them.
Post pictures (/d/ related preferably) to keep the thread alive.

Lose hope of making games here, and collaborate with others to not make games:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?pli=1#!forum/hentai-game-dev-group

>IRC:
https://qchat.rizon.net/?channels=#/d/evs

>/d/ Game Catalog:
http://pastebin.com/Su7gb2iq
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I want to corrupt that angel
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>>6875434
I want to commit a sin
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If you do it with an angel it can't be a sin can it?
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>>6875434
Is it a sin if I want her to have a dick?
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New thread, new Free Cities bug.

I started a new game in version 0.7.3.1 and when the game grabbed a couple pregenerated starting slaves for me... it returned two of the same person.

Not that I have a problem with clones, but I figured I should try selling one Fatiah to see what happens, and both Fatiah's disappeared (for the price of one, what a ripoff).
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I can't seem to get the slave shelter checkup event to happen in FC.
Anybody know the requirements offhand?
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>>6875446

By the looks of it, you will be doing the Lord's work,anon.
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/dgg/ can you help me with making a game? Not a technical question, a motivation issue. My "work on porn game" cycle is like this:

>resolve to write some porn scenes
>get turned on by writing
>too turned on to keep working
>"fine I'll rub on out and get back to it"
>schlick
>no interest in writing about sex anymore

This is a vicious cycle of non-productivity. Some of you manage to make semi-functional games, how do you stay focused?
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>>6875500
Start writing after you done, not before.
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>>6875500
If it were me, I'd just be too drunk to get an erection. You're writing will be bad, but you'll be able to go back and edit it. Maybe you'll write in such quantity that when you go back and edit you'll have enough to do more sex scenes without needing to masturbate. Or just masturbate incessantly for a few weeks, until your so desensitized you can't get horny off of your writing.
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>>6873663
Some anons were having a difficult time understanding my bad explanations of the T&A scoring changes in 0.7.3, so here's a shitty infographic. Also, the current version (0.7.3.2) enables an event that wasn't ready when I updated yesterday. It's a pretty generic threesome event for slaves with huge tits, with the usual fuck/raep/relationship options. Groundbreaking, I know.
>New thread, so: game is Free Cities, freecitiesblog dot blogspot dot com

>>6875463
>I started a new game in version 0.7.3.1 and when the game grabbed a couple pregenerated starting slaves for me... it returned two of the same person.
...interesting. Not sure how that's possible. Thanks for the report.

>>6875465
>I can't seem to get the slave shelter checkup event to happen in FC.
>Anybody know the requirements offhand?
It should get put into the events rotation as long as you have at least one shelter slave and haven't angered the shelter itself.

>>6875112
>Probably my biggest fetish at this point is overendowed futas domming non-futas, no matter from which PoV it's presented
>Anyone got other games to recommend?
FC has some of this, but it needs more. The game is pretty good about calling slaves' assets out when they're relevant, but I need to add a lot more scene variations when slaves dick each other, depending on the size of the dick(s) and the charictaristics of the holes involved.

>>6874903
>How about a random button to make it a surprise what fetish the slave is going to get?
Sure.
>Also, if we are able to lower a slaves sex drive and fetish (Vanilla Option) through the smart piercings, why can't we lower their attraction to women or men the same way?
Because I haven't added it yet.

>>6874583
>Don't know if you just threw these numbers out at random or what, but 6'5" is fucking gigantic for a woman.
Which is why very tall slaves in game are almost always naturally XY.
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>>6875500
Bottom line is self control. Set a goal for when you want to break down and fap, and keep working until that goal has been met.

That, or make a quick plan of the scene you want to write, then switch to technical stuff. When you're done, edit or flesh out the scene, and when it you get stuck, switch again. Repeat until the scene is how you want it.

Also,
>implying
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>>6875520
I had three, and abusing cheat mode, the event never triggered in 100 days.
This includes cycling the slave selected for events to the shelter slaves themselves
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>>6875500
Well anon, here's how I do it. I've certainly learned how to manage this over the development of FC so far. For me at least, and it sounds like for you too, arousal is an important ingredient of writing a good scene. It's easy to create content when it's fun, and for me at least, a sex scene just comes out wrong if I'm not at least a little into it.

As you say, the trouble is that climax and the associated physiological effects damp down arousal for a while. Fortunately, the requirements of making a complete porn game give us something to do during that time: all the unsexy parts of the code. If you aren't erotically interested in the game at the moment, work on the mechanics or hunt bugs until you are.

It's something to manage conciously if you want to maximize your fun and productivity both. If I'm planning stick time later in the evening, I'll write a scene just before that time. If I've got a ton of bugs to hunt, I'll do that afterward. The ideal is a sort of perfect balance of arousal and productivity that can go on and on if you hit it just right. You'll find it. It's fucking awesome. I wrote and coded FC's industrial dairy in one sitting that way.

>>6875509
>Start writing after you done, not before.
As anon said, that kills motivation, and the writing will probably be shit if forced.

>>6875511
>Or just masturbate incessantly for a few weeks, until your so desensitized you can't get horny off of your writing.
That sounds like hell. Literal purgatory. I can't imagine being unable to imagine anything sexy enough to write about.

>>6875535
>I had three, and abusing cheat mode, the event never triggered in 100 days.
>This includes cycling the slave selected for events to the shelter slaves themselves
That sounds broken. I'll check it out.
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>>6875520
>Don't know if you just threw these numbers out at random or what, but 6'5" is fucking gigantic for a woman.
>Which is why very tall slaves in game are almost always naturally XY.
That actually works out really well for the game. If you have petite at 4 foot 6 or 54 inches and very tall at 77 inches, each increment works out to 4.8 inches. Putting average at 5 foot 3 and tall at 5 foot 8. Glad you had the numbers, for me I like the numbers with height, but I'm glad instead your leaving the terms so that way, especially when it comes to height, players can imagine the "average" as being 4 foot 9 or 6 foot 3 if they wanted.
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>>6875565
I noted this in the last thread but maybe you overlooked it. In the Main scene there's this line:
<<display "Personal Assistant Appearance">>

There is no scene titled "Personal Assistant Appearance" and the code it replaced doesn't turn up in a string search.

Also
>Chastity belts should no longer prevent kissing.
This is the most hilarious bugfix note ever written.
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>>6875565
>I wrote and coded FC's industrial dairy in one sitting that way.

That's... pretty inspiring. Not a bad tip either, although the game I'm working on doesn't have a lot of code behind it.

Even as I'm typing that, I know I'm going to regret it. The code is always more complicated than you think it will be.
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>>6875565
So what's on the agenda for .7.4? And I have to ask about plans for .8.0
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>>6875565
Do you mind adding piercings with your slave logo on it or something that boosts reputation, kind of like branding but without the negative beauty hit?

Also is there a way to prevent the 'loss o sex rive because your whore is actually a dude and doesn't naturally produce female hormones'? Pumping them with hormones makes their tits grow bigger, I don't like that. And they get addicted to aphrodisiac too easily.
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>>6875565
A way to toggle the aphrodisiacs in the brothel would be helpful, didn't realize it'd crank them up to max addictions.
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>>6875619
>There is no scene titled "Personal Assistant Appearance"
Not sure what to tell you anon. As far as I can tell, it's there, and it's working.

>>6875626
>the game I'm working on doesn't have a lot of code behind it.
What are you working on, anon? If your taste in games is anything like your taste in .jpg, I'm looking forward to your creation.

>>6875684
>So what's on the agenda for .7.4? And I have to ask about plans for .8.0
As a matter of policy I don't give specific plans, because half the time I don't have any, and half the time I do have them, they change. But generally speaking, I'm trying to focus on content rather than mechanics right now. The event placeholder screen needs to show up a lot less. The big mechanical project is to address the facilities problem. Putting a slave in a well-staffed facility both makes her vanish and gives her bonuses, which irritates players that want the bonuses but also want to see their slaves more. Working on a prototype solution right now. Also, big version numbers like .8 are pretty much arbitrary.

>>6875740
>Do you mind adding piercings with your slave logo on it or something that boosts reputation, kind of like branding but without the negative beauty hit?
I do mind, because it would be imbalanced. I'm trying to avoid options that are always used because they have no downside.
>Also is there a way to prevent the 'loss o sex rive because your whore is actually a dude and doesn't naturally produce female hormones'? Pumping them with hormones makes their tits grow bigger, I don't like that.
>actually a dude
Old world pleb detected.
But seriously, I like how hormones aren't a Lego situation where slaves can be changed at will. There needs to be inefficiencies and compromises or the game will be boring. You can try a smart piercing set to All to counter the sex drive loss directly, or find a combination of growth drugs and artificial and natural hormones taht approximates what you want.
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>>6875836
How about an end game way to buy slaves in bulk?
Once I get all my facilities up and running it gets a little tedious to have to keep going to the market and picking up one girl at a time. I'd like to be able to just buy a lot of them, maybe completely randomized maybe with one or two of the same traits, then shove them all through the assembly line that is my arcology.
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>>6875876

It seems like the simplest way of implementing that would be to just give the facility heads a weekly budget to save up and purchase new staff as they please. Don't know if that would be giving too much freedom to slaves for the setting, though. Or just taking too much control out of the player's hands.
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>>6875434
To the anon posting links to the new thread, use >> instead of >>>. Phoneposters can't follow links when you add an extra one.
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>>6875883
From a strictly gameplay concept that would work, but I'd rather have control.
That way I don't get any girls that are below my standard into any public jobs and I get the say in where/when they go.
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>>6875836
>What are you working on, anon? If your taste in games is anything like your taste in .jpg, I'm looking forward to your creation.

I know better than to answer a question like that. Suffice to say it's a randomized CYOA, so 99% of the work is creative writing.

With any luck tho, that jpg will be one of the A's you can C.
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>>6875836
Three things.
First, I'm having a hell of a time trying to trigger the head girl replacement event. Could you give the exact requirements?

Second, the merged personal assistant appearance and smart piercing event doesn't seem to actually enable the PA options on the manage arcology screen.

Three, on the custom slave creation, would you consider adding another layer of breast between healthy and flat? Maybe at about 300cc or something? Or alternatively, would you consider just giving us more granular control at that stage?
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>>6875836
FC Dev, what do you think about the idea to change your PCs apperance mid game?
As a side note: Being a female PC makes the game harder. Could there be a Future Scociety option [The Matriarchy] that holds women in power over men, that changes the ballance to male PCs having a harder time with the game, male slaves approved of and female slaves frowned on unless they hold superior possitions.
Not that I want something like this, it just seems a logical inclusion.
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>>6875836
>>There is no scene titled "Personal Assistant Appearance"
>Not sure what to tell you anon. As far as I can tell, it's there, and it's working.

Likewise. I downloaded fresh copies of 0.7.3.2 from Dropbox and Mega and they both look like this in Twine. Either I'm having the world's weirdest caching issue, or you're looking a different version.
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>>6875957
If they're looking at it on twinery, sometimes stories will fail to import properly, and be missing half the scenes. It's possible anon is experiencing that.
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>>6875937
>Could there be a Future Scociety option [The Matriarchy] that holds women in power over men

The gender radicalism society comes close to this, but isn't quite the same since it still assumes power to be a masculine attribute.

The main problem with a Matriarchy society option would be how to present it to the player. Would it still be acceptable to call all slaves "she"? Because if not, then you're looking at a game-wide rewrite.
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>>6875959
>If they're looking at it on twinery, sometimes stories will fail to import properly, and be missing half the scenes.

Well that's just dandy. You're right, I found the missing scenes by looking in notepad++.

If you thought Twine's gui was a bitch, this is borderline inhuman.
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>>6875933
You know what, scratch that second point. Complaining about it seems to have made it decide to mysteriously start working again.

>>6875967
Deleting the story and re importing it usually does the trick for me.
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Someone should make a game catering to all my tastes and fetishes
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I hate the pictures in Girl Life.
Does anyone know a program to resize gifs? Or converting webms to gifs?

If I can't find anything then I might just make an anime image pack instead with no gifs.
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>>6876007
You are someone. So get busy!
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Does anyone have the latest Trapquest backers unlock?
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Is there anything in particular you have to do to seduce the teacher in Girl Life? I've gotten to the seduce option but it doesn't really seem to go anywhere
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Assistance requested. What the fuck are you supposed to do in Lust Doll at the City? Not the abandoned one.
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>>6876078
>love bimbos
>severe lack of bimbo games
>hear people here complaining about the amount of bimbo content in trapquest
>tfw trapshit is my boner kryptonite
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>>6876016
You can resize .gifs in most 'pro' image editors, like Gimp or Photoshop.
I use Shotcut to turn video into .gifs and .webms too, but most video editors should do it.
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>>6876155
Start as a girl.
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>Love free cities, especially the industrial dairy
>By the time I get into it, new version is out that breaks saves.
It keeps happening.
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>>6876158
You can do that? I just saw the name and didn't look in to it any further.
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>>6876166
It's supposed to be 'trap quest' as a double entendre. You step on a bunch of traps in game as well as possibly become a trap.
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>>6876169
>scatquest
>it's a game about the quest to become the master scatman
>but also poo
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Hey all, just dropping in to bring up the survey again. After posting the preliminary results a while ago I let it run for a few more days. So here's the updated results.
(not a whole lot different to be honest, but it is a much larger sample size and probably a bit more accurate)

Thank you for participating, everyone.

(Also, I wouldn't recommend Devs using it as a primary basis for their content decisions. One should always play to their own interests and their own audiences first before appealing to a common interest. Regardless it's interesting stuff)
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>>6876176
Aslo, here's a word cloud generated from all the messages left in the "other fetish" box on the survey. Kind of humorous.

> bimbofication feminization
Saying that out loud, fast is fun
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>>6876183
>girl use swallowing enjoy strongly
yes, this exactly
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>>6876176
Can you sort it ?
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>>6876174
I'd play it, but only if the dev was personally scatting the soundtrack for the game.
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>>6876183
What was the most interestingly write in?
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>>6876183
>bondage someone, understand?
[spoiler]select all drinks[/spoiler]
[spoiler]two coffees and a bowl of soup[/spoiler]
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>>6876174
I'm dead.
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>>6876196
RIP anon, he was good man. Here's hoping that he hid his porn stash well enough.
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>>6876176
I'm a little amazed at how vanillaish all the positive choices are, at least as vanilla as /d/ can get.
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>>6876201
I'm more worried about the massive stash of women's undies in the cupboard.
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>>6876174
>>6876196
Welcome to Scatland!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2mRA03dWUI

>>6876201
I thought you were talking about Scatman for a minute. He died only a few years after he got big. ; ;
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>>6876202
>as vanilla as /d/ can get
So you are amazed at the most popular fetishes are the most common fetishes on /d/?
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>He died only a few years after he got big.
DELETE THIS
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>>6876176
>>6876187
Yeah, I'm curious how it looks sorted by highest to lowest average score, most to least polarizing, and most to least strongly enjoy scores. Is there a way you can easily sort it or export the data so we can? Thanks for the data, it's really interesting.
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>>6876207
>>6876205
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>>6876206
I guess, I just expected at least a few more of the more out there fetishes to be rated higher.
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>>6876176
>Anal, Large Insertions, Futa, Bondage

Looks correct to me.
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>>6876192
Ha, well there wasn't anything too shocking. Mostly simple request or explanations as to why they like this or that. Lots of semantic debates and questioning the terms I used.

My favorite though is probably this.
>Is their a fetish name for someone hanging by two dicks while being spit roasted?

>>6876187
How so? I'm drunk, lazy and technically attempting to work on my game, so stringing together 4 screenshots of the survey was already a challenge. lol

>>6876208
the website is kind of shit. I can only apply filters individually to each line separately. There's no real sorting application to it, at least not for the way I formatted the questions. Maybe a stat fetishist could spreadsheet it.

>>6876202
I agree. I realized that I'm more tolerant of other fetishes and I seem to enjoy a wider array fetishes than the possibly-nonexistent average /d/ entity. I'm a freak, but that's probably because I like the fats and other weird stuff.


Also we need work on our porn to posts ratio.
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>>6876176
What did you mean by body horror, something like kuribayashi chris's stuff?
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>>6876223
Forgot my image
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>>6876228
>emergency semen production unit
Do they often really need jizz in a jiffy?
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>>6876219
Well, IS there?
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>>6876219
>Maybe a stat fetishist could spreadsheet it.
I'm shit at excel, but if the site you're using lets you save out the data in different formats I can fuck with sorting it. I'm just lazy and I don't wanna type out all the values from the png by hand.
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>>6876229
I think they use it as some sort of perpetual motion power source.
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>>6876231
*is their
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>>6876239
#si ther
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>>6876223
That's pretty much what I was thinking, although I think it wouldn't have to just be body mass, "Akira scene" stuff.

In general I meant "mutation, transformation or parasitism that causes someone to lose control of their body but are still fully aware of everything that's happening to them"


>>6876219
>>6876208
>>6876232
I just realized the sorting and export tools are also reserved for "pro members" so, I guess it's not even an option. I should have looked into it more before choosing them.

>>6876231
"Sling phallus pork fuck"?
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>>6876244
>"Sling phallus pork fuck"?
...Nice.
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>>6876176
I cant even take these result seriously. Its clearly flooded by a troll.
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>>6876272
>People have different opinions than I do? The only possibility is that they're trolling.
Brilliant, anon.
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>>6876176
>72% strongly dislike scat
I'm proud, /d/.
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I'm dumb. I forgot that since slaves wearing a chastity belt can't get pregnant there was no reason to use contraceptives on them.
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Can any of you recommend me some games which allows you to mess with random people or passerbys in sexy ways?
Ideally transformation or hypnosis-based but no real limitations of content.
I liked the way you kind of could in most slaver games but slavery itself does very little for me.
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>>6876176
SD+D vs N vs E+SE would make a more accurate picture on the more fringe cases.
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>>6876282
This is /d/, go back to /a/ you nancy.
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>>6876337
The only game like this that comes to mind is HHS+, but I wouldn't recommend it for this.
While it does have some TF content, its not very good, and while you can in theory TF random people, it takes alot of work to build up trust with those random people so they'll actually use the TF item on themself.
That plus the TF items may or may not work properly right now.
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>>6876359
see >>6876282
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how do you get events with fedor in girl life?
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>>6876370
See >>6876359
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>so few games are actually games and not just interactive books

one of the reasons i like VH so much, its fun to play after you have finished fapping. Then as you play it more you get turned on again. Its a great cycle!
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>>6876444
see >>6876370
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>>6876457
Don't worry. I'm making one !
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>>6876457
Too bad it's an incomplete piece of shit.
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>>6876465
What a great and valuable comment...
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>mfw someone starts updating the cheat engine tables for Trap Quest again
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Does slave happiness affect milk/semen product in Free Cities?
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>>6876499
Yes.
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>>6876147
>Is there anything in particular you have to do to seduce the teacher in Girl Life?
That storyline is incomplete, you've seen all there is to see in the current version.

>>6876413
>how do you get events with fedor in girl life?
They are currently disabled due to missing content.
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>>6876518
Ah right, thanks.
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>>6876359
>Anon says that differing opinion is nothing but trolls
>Other anon calls him out for being stupid
>LOL GO BACK TO /a/ WITH YOUR INCLUSIVENESS HERE AT /d/ WE DON'T ALLOW PEOPLE TO BE DIFFERENT THAN ME
You strike me as a very stupid man.
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>>6876496
link?
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>>6876496
Source?
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No Haven update when?
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Am I suppose to have a very small amount of citizens in my Arcology later in the game?
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>>6876706
It seems so.

Apparently we have to go full Rome and have a million slaves for each citizen.
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>>6875836
FC dev.

I need:

1. More adorable events that are really more cute than sexy, in a perverse sort of way.

2. More two-handed events, because currently I feel like there is no purpose to my wild shenanigans and this threatens to slap me away from a life of relentless and unrepentant exploitation of young adults into an existential crisis, and who knows, even into sex slave abolitionism.
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>>6876700
One man can only do so much, he has to recuperate three months of setback between writer's block and a bug he finally fixed the other day. I wouldn't realistically expect it until July at the very least.
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If you're the kind of person that likes to live dangerously (i.e. an h-dev), and you're trying to make a sandbox h-game (fuelled by a lethal cocktail of autism and indecision) and you lapse into extensive non-h-game mechanics, is that a good thing or a bad thing?

For instance, if you begin from "free roaming tentacle monsters that are really fond of humanoids" and then you fap to your scribblings, and you end up with cookable tentacle monster tentacles, and the choice of opening a restaurant that sells fried tentacles to the NPCs of h-world, that counts as "immersive world, better faps 10/10", right?
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>>6876518
Is the kissing competition event with Katja also disabled?

I can get the conversation about the bet but can't seem to actually start the event.
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>>6876762
How do you even get that? I can go to her house and talk about all sorts of lewd shit, kiss her and let her touch my bra and suck my nipples but that's it
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>>6876762
Doesn't girl life have a wiki or something.

The wiki was very useful in JONT.
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>>6876761
Depends. Can you also have a breeding operation (women repeatedly impregnated with tentacle monsters) going on to fuel your culinary empire?
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>>6876778
Breeding mechanics are the next step of my master plan and their conception (badum) the second major lapse after domestication (I'm not joking).

But seriously though, serious non-h-mechanics in h-heavy world. Yay or nay?
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>>6876772
If you keep talking to her at school after having sex with her you can kiss her in public. One of your school mates can catch you and in response you can kiss a bunch of people.

Talking to her afterwards leads to her making a bet she can kiss more guys than you. According to the code this should lead to a competition in the park but it doesn't seem to trigger.
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>>6876208
mostly sorted. I think I collapsed a line, yell if
>muh fetish
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Looking for good belly stuffing games.

This is the only one I know of:

http://daysdays.deviantart.com/art/Minigame-Feeding-Lily-555918988
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>>6876787
Good work
Also feels good to be in majority of tastes once for all
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>>6876787
1. Open Excel/Calc/whatever
2. Copy table from browser
3. Paste into spreadsheet
4. Make new table/autofilter
5. Sort
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>>6876787
I don't care what the world thinks of us; I love you, anon.
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>>6876787
before I forget:
strong outliers means "5*(strongly dislike) + 1*(dislike) > 75%"
few outliers means "5*(strongly dislike) + 1*(dislike) < 10%".
Approximated by headmath.
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>>6876799
6. Be retarded.
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>>6876799
>Copy table from browser
... I only had anon's screencap to work from
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>>6876176
I feel it's kinda focused on food/absorbtion stuff (slob, lactation, vore, unbirth, inflation, expansion, stomach deformation, weight gain, stuffing to name a few), when you put one catch-all for more usual stuff ("yuri/yaoi". really?).

It might make the food guy precisely select his kink and say meh about everything else, underestimating the whole "food related" interest compared to the yaoi dude that will be counted as being in a bigger "homo" interest. Kind of if you were asking a random adult "what's your age?" with bins for 18-23, 24-35, 36, 37, 38, 39 and more than 40.

If someone's interested to run another pool someday, please consider making categories of comparable specificity.
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>>6876824
Same with loli/shota desu
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>>6876787
Thanks a million Anon. I had to sleep, and truly I was too lazy to do that.

>>6876799
>>6876807
The data can't be exported from the website without a pro-membership and I'm not paying for that.
Didn't know such a basic feature would be restricted before I started the survey.

>>6876824
I guess that's probably so. Either way I know its sloppy, it's a first attempt. I'd more than recommend others to setup less biased(?) surveys in the future. It's just there's always going to be too many fetishes to cover, so its up to someone a little less lazy than I. I just put whatever I could think of on the spot and then I went here and just grabs the ones that weren't just cosmetic differences.

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Fetish_Listing

The number of parts was getting a bit out there and I just lazed out, because I wanted to start seeing the results.
It is what it is.
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>>6876775
Yes, it does. The github wiki has a FAQ. Plus the pastebin guide is also a thing.
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>>6876781
Yay.
As an anon said somewhere: "You fap and then you keep playing because it's fun then you get aroused because it's sexy and fap again"
Or something like that.
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>>6876787
How does /d/ feel about ryona?
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Weird how the games catalog doesn't mention the CoC Revamp mod.
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>>6876781
Agree with >>6876915 . It's the same reason most hollywood action flicks have occasional moments of witty banter between characters, or anime series have fighting episodes and hotspring episodes, or most first-person shooters tend to have both stealth/assassination type missions and "OMGWTF anarchy fireworks deathexplosion" sections.

By breaking up one type of "genre" with another, it prevents the genre from becoming repetitive or tedious, greatly increasing the attention-span on the player/viewer (who might otherwise get bored if it's the exact same thing non-stop).
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>>6876916
>ryona
That's a japanese thing where you punch a qt in the womb and they orgasm from it, right? And it's pretty much CBT for females?

imho:
What's the point of beating them up if they enjoy it? Beating them up because ulterior motives, or even because you enjoy it is fine, but beating them up because they like it is pointless: the sort of person who would be okay with hitting someone because they were asked to would likely not want the person being beaten to enjoy the experience.
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>>6876927
Ryona tends to vary wildly depending on the specific niche community you're talking about. Some use it to refer to simply severe degradation and rape, while others use it specifically in the context of physically beating people.
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>>6876927
I thought he was talking about RyonaRPG, which has neither of those.
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>>6876927
Just asking for a general view of how /d/ feels about assault and battery on girls until they are unable to resist the following rape. The chart didn't have it listed.
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Does slave weight have an effect on milking?
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>>6876981
Yes.
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>>6875836
I'm sorry to be a bother F.C. Dev,

but for whatever reason, the number of children a slave has is not being recorded anywhere in 0.7.3.2. Only my Headgirl's set of Quadruplets and some other slave's twins were recorded, even though I've made sure all 50 of my slaves have given birth at least once. Seeing that this maybe the only report of this, I think it my be a "localized" problem
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>>6876787
>Submission > Dominance
It is known.
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>>6876645
>>6876656
http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?t=571078&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=225&sid=b2a39253ba540c52792225ff758bb302
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>>6876916
1. It's shit.
2. There already is a Japanese game called RyonaRPG.
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>There will never be a scene where you castrate a slave after she successfully impregnates another slave because her biological duty is complete so she no longer needs the ability to create viable sperm
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>>6876761
It may not be better faps, but it may be better game. As long as one doesn't detract too much from the other and it's not convoluted, bothersome shit (ie. most of the complexity is under the hood, leaving player with main choices and plenty of consequences) - it can be pretty great, since it allows players to make their own choices and get more immersed.

If the mechanics however is some sort of grind before you can get any H content or some absolutely separate from the main game mechanics or story bunch of features, then the ice gets thin and your risk doing lot of work for no gain in overall game's quality.
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>>6876916
I tend to enjoy it way more than I should. There's something very alluring in painful expressions making me feel pure sadist.
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>>6876962
Well you aren't going to get much positive reaction here, the most sadistic these threads go is with vore/petrification, but both are abnormal fetishes with fantasy-centric means of torture, and the more 'feasible' something is, the more likely that anons will complain of it being too cruel. 4chan /d/ has a very strong lean towards mental suffering/torture/corruption, and not necessarily permanent. Not counting physical dismemberment/modification at least.

Personally plain physical torture isn't my thing and I can only really appreciate artistic depictions of gore ala Blank Blood or Crackle Cradle in just the effort they've put into it in both visuals/audio working togehter. Erotically it often just needs an element of entrapment or forced pleasure no matter what associated fetish, but that doesn't mean I'll randomly get off on a girl that is a masochist either. Permanent suffering inside of a bizarre scenario is preferrable.

And yeah, think of a proper title, RyonaRPG is already quite infamous so getting overlapped with that won't help.
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>>6876787
>>6876851
>tfw hardly anyone likes one of your strongest fetishes
I only have myself to be disapointed in
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>>6877151
Ugh, I forgot about giantess threads that was literally below this one.
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>>6875434
is there anything new and or just good besides free cities?

overwhored and shrink high were good.
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>>6877202
The Last Sovereign, Noxian Nights, and Ouroboros
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>>6876916
if you're talking about ryona in the pastebin, i made a guide to get it started, don't know if it was ever added and utterly hate the torment of trying to get the game working. it can go fuck itself.

>>6876918
doesn't mention MGQ either.
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>>6877203
little bit of info before possibly jumping into a trap, loli, grandma dressup game?
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>>6877211
Heavily story based games with good writing. Noxian Nights has some beast content as well as tentacles. Otherwise they're vanilla.
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>>6877215
>Otherwise they're vanilla.
If I wanted that I'd be in /hgg/ instead.
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>>6877211
Roundscape adoveria as well. (Beast and Tentacles)
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>>6877215
sounds good. Was hoping to get a little more /d/ content. (vanilla getting dry) but, hey, three good games is three good games.
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>>6877217
What do you want then? Guro, vore, scat? Vanilla to me includes light BDSM, Gangbangs, etc.
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>>6877218
and Futa
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Not sure what I can say about the gameplay, it's kinda buggy and has some stat issues (MDEF is useless?), but ZXC's Raven Dungeon has been getting some really nice art in my opinion
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>>6877222
Anything unusual and fetish-y.

Which "vanilla" implies the opposite of.
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>>6876918
what's it do?
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>>6875520
Not sure if you've already heard it but I did a debug start because I like cheating and I can't put anybody in the cell block. I can have a warden but no prisoners.
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>>6876962
Despite what >>6877151 may say, torture (which I assume ryona falls under) is a hardly a divisive topic, at least going by what the chart posted by >>6876787 says.

60% of /d/enizens that took that survey are ambivalent or better to torture; the majority opinion of "hate it" is only a majority by a little over 1%.

Speaking personally, the variant of "ryona" that you wrote of is the only kind of rape that I fetishize: a violent, terrifying event that is more a display of dominance than a sating of lust or propagation of genetics.

If nothing else, the game you propose would have the interest of a full third of the people that took that survey, especially since there are few games that focus on such a brutal aspect of rape.
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>>6877042
If his genes are good enough that you're intentionally breeding him, why would you only breed him once?
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>>6877156
Which disenfranchised minority are you, anon? Weight Loss? Body Horror? Health Detriment/Disease? If it's any of those, I feel you anon
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>>6877015
Yeah male.
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>>6877267
cell block is just poorly implemented, it shouldn't count fear levels as 'obedience' and thus make 90% of slaves unavailable
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>>6876787
What's the most polarizing fetish? As in the one with the least neutral votes and close between like/dislike scores?
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>>6877328
why don't you look for yourself, anon?
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>>6877339
TL;DR
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>>6877341
then fuck off
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>>6877347
No.
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>>6877274
Not saying there aren't anons that enjoy it, but the general 'no gore pictures' environment of /d/ isn't friendly towards it and any anons specifically desiring that will gather elsewhere, unless they like to bitch incessantly. But I also suspect there are varying mentalities to what people consider torture to be, especially since guro is a separate category. Tickling would've provably fallen under torture, and that is something I'm neutral towards.

When was the last time an anon complained that he couldn't kill something other than a furry in a developing H-game?

Was expecting more anons to jump in suddenly to say how wrong I am.
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What are all the extra options that you get from social stuff? I want to make my slaves wear the best outfits possible.
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>>6877356
>Was expecting more anons to jump in suddenly to say how wrong I am.
Didn't come here to discuss /d/ meta.
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>>6877244
I'm too desensitized to porn for me to think of many non normalfag fetishes as strange or unusual. Pregnant porn, gangbangs, futanari, light BDSM, Monster girls, and basically anything that doesnt involve scat, guro, or vore seems vanilla to me.
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>>6877241
He's very creative, but I'm worried that due to popularity his already weak skills will stagnate.
Dude really needs to improve his anatomy just a little bit and really focus on texture and lighting.
Not to mention actual technical skill with photoshop (visual lower layers, artifacting from resizing and overuse of the liquify tool, etc, etc.) and RPGM (buggy as fuck, poor design decisions, style mismatches and half-baked features)
I can forgive the dodgy English because he tries damn hard.

Oh, and he also released a new version yesterday.
https://www.patreon.com/posts/5476083
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>>6877285
Not that guy but I am disappointed to see body horror so low, in the domain of the fats and scats.
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>>6877285
>>6877156
>Body horror
>Fat
>All the sexy gross stuff
Excluding scat, I whole-heartedly agree.

Alas we are the freaky few.
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>>6877416
No, seriously. What's wrong with scat?
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>>6877420
From a logical standpoint? It's toxic waste. You shouldn't play with your shit. Aside from that, it appeals to such a low minority that it's hardly worth producing if you, yourself, are not into it.
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>>6877420
Literally a shit-tier fetish.
Humans have a biological imperative to hate shit, those that don't have actual brain problems.
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My friend and I are going try making a game. What do you look for in game? What don't the other games have?
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>>6877420
It's shit.
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>>6877420
Just not into it. Lots of gross things ring with me, it however was never one of them.
What can I say.
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>>6877432
Check the archive first, the last 2 or 3 threads had a bit of discussion about just that.
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>>6877420
There is nothing I could say that other anons haven't already said but I'm chiming in anyways so you know just how many people dislike your fetish.
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>>6877431
>Humans have a biological imperative to hate shit
No, they don't. Children have literally no problems with playing with their shit until they are taught otherwise.
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>>6877432
Don't use standard RNG encounters if it's in RPG maker, its broken af. Character's shouldn't be extremely naive or make illogical decisions. Pissing, scat, hard vore, and gore should be optional or non existent. The player shouldn't be forced into gay or futa content and should be aware that they are going to seeit unless that is the basis of your game. Anything else is fair game.
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>>6877285
>>6877416
>Vore/unbirth
>Guro/Bursting
>Birthing
>Body Horror
>Stuffing/Gas (burping)
>Weight Loss
:C
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>>6877445
Children also fall from great heights by pure lack of awareness too, and yet a fear of heights is considered a 'primal fear'. Just because it takes a while to develop doesn't mean it's not biological. I'm not gonna argue further though because I'm sick of autism blowing out /dgg/ and fighting over the origin of a scat fetish is not how I plan to spend my day.
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>>6877207
>MGQ
What does it stand for?
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>>6877453
Monster girl quest
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>>6877456
Gotcha, thanks.

Monster girls never did much for me.
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In the girl life guide i see that at level 2 and 3 it's supposed to lock arousal at 25% and 50%, I wear nothing but bimbo outfits but that doesn't seem to happen.

Is it actually implemented? How do you know what level you're at anyways
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>>6877449
Agreed. That is something we want to avoid. It will likely be primarily text based as neither one of us can draw.
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>>6877464
It's a decent game regardless. The newest one should be in RPG maker instead of being a VN.
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>>6877451
You fail at basics of anthropology. Primates are not repulsed by their shit, it's part of humanity development which made excrements greatly despised as humans moved to settled life and shitting inside their homes became huge 'no', except unlike predators they had no inbuilt instincts (like eating or burying their shit), hence why Europe was literally a shithole until sewers were built. I'm not a scat enthusiast though.

Speaking of scat fetish, it's pretty amusing by the way. i remember reading how it may possibly be linked to how mother may defecate upon giving birth, making baby subconsciously imprint smell and experience to raise later in life in form of deviancy or some sort of obsession.
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>>6877471
Are you planning on having your game be monetized? If not, you can always just take pics from R34 (should be consistent character wise).

I find myself enjoying a good story with porn rather than good porn with a cheap story. That being said don't be too sparse with ero content.
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>>6877420
replace scat with "shit" "excrement" "crap" "feces" "waste" "poop" "shit" "dung" "sewage" "stool"
scat is a euphemism you guys (I'm assume your a scat fetishist) hide behind to allow your minds to rationalize its sex appeal. Imagine you had never heard of scat or it's fetish, imagine you've never heard of shit. Imagine you live in a world were people don't shit because of whatever biological function you can think of. Now imagine your girl(i'm assuming your a guy with an attraction to women) asks you to try out some new "edible" lubricant that's brown and tastes worse than it smells and it's a mixture of the toxins the human body creates and other materials the human body physically can't digest. Because that's what scat is, it's waste.
Now I'm not one to judge, really I'm not, but when it comes to scat fetishists, it's not like your a foot fetish. The human mind sexualizes so many things, but instinctively humans know not to put shit on their food, they know to shit somewhere away from their food, there's a reason why you get blood poisoning from eating shit. It's literal poison.
I don't think it's wrong to think of feet as sexual objects, nor do I think it's wrong to feel that your body is not the same gender as your mind, I get those. There's nothing wrong with having those fetishes, maybe odd, but it doesn't make you broken or inhuman. There's a reason in caste societies those that worked with sewage and cleaned latrines were always part of the lowest class. All that being said, my acceptance of fetishes end with the acceptance of shit being a legitimate fetish.
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>>6877483
No, we won't charge for it. We'll probably just keep it text based for simplicity.

I intend to have the game completable without fucking anyone.
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>>6877472
Yeah, I actually played the first one - or at least part of it. It was okay. I don't find the animal bits to be sexy at all. I also didn't much care for the tone - it's cute and silly, and that's a bit of a boner killer.

I'm way more interested in content where at least somebody is having a bad time, and slap and tickle "rape" just feels dumb.
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>>6877490
>I intend to have the game completable without fucking anyone.
If you haven't yet you should take a look at hellmoo. It's an adult text based MUD and it's good fun, i've had many an erection playing it. However it's entirely possible to go very far without having sex.
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>>6877486
Is this pasta?
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>>6877493
I'll take a look, thanks.
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>>6877490
Are you doing it in HTML5? What kind of genre and atmosphere are you planning for the game?
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>>6877492
Megrim makes some pretty decent ryona games. There isn't really that much out there that's both erotic and not body horror.
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>>6877502
I'm not sure what he's coding it in. It will probably be fantasy with a D&D type of theme, basically generic fantasy.

I indeed to make a lot of transformation, corruption, ect available. Possibly gothic/semi-victorian for the atmosphere.
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>>6877432
Play "The Adventures of Redscale". Make that, but with fewer chess-themed mass-battles that shit all over the rest of the game.

More precisely, there are three things I look for it a game: fun, fetish-fullfillment, and control over the player character.

In regards to fun: it must have an appealing premise. Take FC's premise, "live the life of the privileged few in the last days of society as we know it". The premise is hugely important; no one wants to play a game that has a premise of "grind your stats through generic JRPG combat and do quests for porn that appeals only to people that like dark-skinned bimbos getting filled with absurd amounts of cock/cum". Take a look at the successful games on TFgamessite.com, and try to boil each down to a simple premise so you have an idea of what you're trying to do.

Second, it must have a driving fetish behind it. Whether that's rape, breast expansion, or heterosexual and consensual impregnating sex, the game should have mechanics that focus on this. If your game can be described as "[normal game genre] but with porn!" then you need to go back to the drawing board. Good examples of games that mechanics that fit the game well are Fleshcult, Tentacled, and The Adventures of Redscale are all good examples of this. Bad examples are pretty much anything made with RPGmaker: Legend of Queen Opala, Hawkman, and Simbrothel 2: Rebirth to name a few.

Finally, a good game requires that the player has significant control over their actions and what happens to their character. A game in which you do not act is just a novel way of presenting a book. A game in which you cannot control what happens to your character is just a "pic below happens to you" thread.

I'd suggest playing the games I mentioned, at least a little; at worst, you have fun, at best you understand why you're having fun.
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>>6877518
Great advice, thank you.
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>>6877471
Not the same guy but I'll give my two cents. Just because you're making an h game doesnt mean you can ignore game theory. If you dont know what im talking about, go on youtube and search for a group called "extra credits".

Not all of it is going to be relevant to you, but much of it is. What i could sit here and type to you for over an hour, they have already done in video.

And thats just game theory. If you wanna talk about writing and narritive theory, there are these guys called "writing excuses" (not on youtube). These guys are long time novelists and writers who want to give advice in that reguard. Now I dont know how much story there is going to be in your game so I dont know how useful these guys will be, but the thing to take away from this is that there are experts in every field you can imagine. Seek and take their advice.

Now, there's one last piece of advice I can personally impart on you. Make something that *you* want to make. Not others. If i can get away with telling a short tale here, I've been playing dungeons and dragons for nearly ten years now. One of the campaign ideas i did fairly recently was a "create your own adventure". I set up a fairly complicated system to let the players determine the bad guys, level progression speed, main themes, the big bad, everything. It was a complete disaster. The game that they wanted to play I didnt want to make. Even when i forced myself to make it, I couldnt get that "creative spark" to touch the game. In the end, the game crashed and burned by session 3.

I can see you're coming to /d/ for inspiration, but thats all it should be. Insipration. Not guidance.
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I want to make a game. Too bad all the free engines are shit/confusing to use.
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>>6877524
I've been trying to get into game dev and a lot of the engines I've tried so far make it pretty simple. What kind of game are you trying to make?
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>>6877518
>Second, it must have a driving fetish behind it. Whether that's rape, breast expansion, or heterosexual and consensual impregnating sex, the game should have mechanics that focus on this
There are plenty of terrible games that follow this formula. Combat for the sake of combat is definitely not what I would encourage though. I've played many battlefuck games where it's purely sex attacks and then there's the collect 'em games where you walk from one place to another collecting sex scenes. These are not fun to play and definitely aren't games that I would recommend to anyone.
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>>6877536
I'm not really trying to make the next AAA game, anything simple is fine.
Like Pong. I like Pong. If I can add h scenes in it it'll be perfect.
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>>6877521
I hear you. I enjoyed games like CoC, but it was never finished which bother me, perhaps that will be my target. Never adding anything I don't finish.
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>>6877541
Then make a flash game. There's no use in trying to make a game on Ren'py, RPG maker, etc. if you just want to make a game with no narrative, but decent porn. Just make sure it's mindless fun between faps rather than grindy rage inducing mechanics with no purpose.
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>>6877548
What if I want to make a text-based RPG with randomized dungeons?
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>>6877541
I just started getting into game maker and the first tutorial is for breakout. That's like twice as experienced as you'd need to make pong, and the layout is super simple to use/understand.
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>>6877515
>I indeed to make a lot of transformation, corruption, ect available. Possibly gothic/semi-victorian for the atmosphere.
Just make sure it actually takes some effort to transform yourself into an 8 foot 6 arm demon futa with 4 breasts and a horsecock. I find games like CoC have the problem of completely changing your character into something random with very little input of the player character.
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>>6877551
Game Maker isn't free right? I thought you had to pay for it. Or was that only for licensing costs?
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>>6877554
Working towards a goal that is somewhat difficult is satisfying.
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>>6877561
Only if it's both achievable and rewarding.
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>>6877546
A much better strategy would be to plan that out. Get a design doc for your game and get it on the table early. When you first start coding you should already have a design doc to be referencing. It doesn't have to be complete, or even close to complete, but it has to be there at all. Too many indie projects fail be cause they have no plan, and when you have no plan, it's extremely easy to get sidetracked, or stop entirely.
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>>6877556
I don't know about pricing if you want to sell your game but functionally it only costs money if you want to get rid of their splash screen.
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>>6877565
With clear goals and objectives, agreed.

>>6877567
There will be a plan with set goals and a set conclusion.
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>>6877432
No one seems to ever finish slave simulators for some reason. As in games where the MC is abducted and subjected to training kind of deal.
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>>6877581
How would you make it work as a game?
Like would it be an escape the room before you're trained too well or something? Because when I think about a game playing as a slave you basically have someone telling you want to do and then you do it, not unlike playing any generic MMO.
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>>6877586
You ever see one of those CYOA images around here where you're a slave or something?
Kind of like that.
You choose a master/mistress and depending on who you choose changes the types of goals you need to do for the day. And after 365 turns (days) you get a score on whether you won or not.
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>>6877586
You have the illusion of being the helpless sub, while actually being the dom who decides what happens to the MC. Either that or you have next to no gameplay.
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>>6877586
COC prison mod had a good framework for it. It's basically a resource management game. Resisting orders consumes your willpower. Cooperating makes you more subservient but increases leniency like better food and less restraint. Being too cooperative makes you double-think escaping.
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>>6877586
>How would you make it work as a game?
This is relevant to my interests!
I know it's bad form to talk about making a game without having a prototype to show, but this is actually exactly what I'm working on.

You're right that the problem with a game about being a slave is that the whole game consists of being told what to do. My idea was, instead of deciding what to do, which you can't, you the player instead decide how to react to what you're being made to do. The events are randomized, but how you choose to respond, especially in the few situations where you do have any agency, has a big impact on that.

Think of it like a Choose Your Adventure, except you're usually not the one choosing.
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>>6877567
A good spec lets you have a clear overall goal, but from my experience in software projects, you'll want to keep content and mechanics relatively open and untouched, while focusing heavily on establishing a strong underlying framework that gives you flexbility in implementation.

This tends to be the most unfun, but leads to maintainable projects.

Make your representation of players/npcs/objects excessively detailed (lots of potential stat and properties to track) according to what you see as "stretch" goals, it doesn't mean you have to use or expose them for usage, but retroactively adding is almost always harder.

Try to make a consistent and specific allotted commitment every one or two weeks (like set aside 2-4 hours one day), keep it easy to hit, allow yourself to do a bit more if you want, but guarantee a commitment.
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Any games relatively open source friendly?

i.e with open code, and it's maintainer/creator is open to considering content/code submissions?
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>>6877636
Free Cities
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In Girl Life how do you up Katjas slut stat?
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>>6877328
>>6876801
>strong outliers
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>>6877586
You create a slave and are bought from an auction by a randomly generated master/mistress. Your goal is to be a good slave and meet your masters expectations. Each master will have certain traits that influence how they will treat you and what they expect of you.
For example, a sadist master who enjoys inflicting pain on salves will decrease your health as the days pass. To stay alive and healthy you'll have to dedicate your free time to maintaining your health.
Or perhaps your mistress is entertained by dance, so you should focus on improving your entertainment abilities.

The goal is to keep your master/mistress happy with you as a slave. The more they like you as a slave, the more preferential treatment you'll get, your days will be easier (or harder depending on the master) and you may even be given a elevated position amongst your fellow slaves. You might even become a Head Girl.
If your master/mistress becomes unhappy with you they may sell you to someone else and your next master may not be as nice as your previous one.

To keep things from getting stale there would be random events that could see your master becoming bankrupt and being forced to sell you and the rest of their slaves. Or perhaps thy die suddenly of a heart attack and their assets need to be sold off.
Just little things to make sure you don't get too comfortable with your current stage in slave life. Your master might be assassinated 5 weeks into your stay with them, or maybe after a whole year of dedicated service as your masters chief cocksucker, he just gets a bit bored of you and decides he needs a different slave in his life, and sells you.
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>>6877636
I am, but still heavily in the prototyping stage. Got the encounter system commit coming in soon.
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>>6877685
Doh, forgot repo link. https://gitlab.com/tydl/theisland/
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>>6877684
That sounds a bit like it would fall into the trap that a lot of games do.
Where you spend too much time having to play the game, usually a specific way, and not enough time exploring the game.

Like take your first example. At best the majority of your early game would just be spent essentially clicking "rest/heal me".
To me the early game is where I really want to branch out and see what all there is on offer.
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How do folks feel about combat in h-games?

Currently working on something, but I'm stuck between having auto-resolve combat, and putting in a more traditional system.
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>>6877780
It can be good when done right and it can make me drop it for bogging down the game with mindnumming and boner killing combat and making me fight rats more than fuck. Make combat do something other than slow the player down and distract from erotic content.
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>>6877780
I don't really care.
I've seen RPG games where they used a RNG dice system and it was the most fun I had in a while.
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>>6877788
The theme of the game is something along the lines of "The Most Dangerous Game", only lewd, and instead of one hunter you have several. Combat is mostly used against other hunted, and to try and delay the hunters.

Still trying to learn how to make all that fun.
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I finally did it. I masturbated to gay shota porn.
I feel disgusting.
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>>6877795
Reminds me of Collared Prey Hunting Club.
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>birth
>body horror
>health detriment/disease
>undead
>unbirth

What went wrong /d/ I thought you were into that kind of stuff...
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>>6877820
I'm into more normal fetishes. Scat, necrophilia and anal birthing.
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>>6877820
normies ruin everything yet again
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I think I've been playing too much /d/ games.
I had a dream last night that was like girl life, crossed with HHS+, set on a cruise ship, but with more demonic possession.
I'm kinda sad this is not a thing.
But we should replace the cruise ship with Girls und Panzer, because that shit would make more sense.
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Anyone have a 'guide' on how to navigate enough to get to the "porn" in Trap Quest? I love the idea of the game but it just feels so tedious when I try to sit down and enjoy it.
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>>6877820
>health detriment/disease
Idk why anyone would have a fetish for "health detriment". I could easily see fantasy diseases that have some sexual effect, but if you're fetisizing normal diseases like "the flu" then you probably have some legitimate psychological issues.

If it was worded as "fantasy diseases" it would probably get a lot more support, calling it "health detriment" makes it sound fucked up.

>>6877823
> Scat
Your fetish a shit. Scat is inherently unsanitary.
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>>6877852
What's wrong with scat?
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>>6877854

Scat is a shit fetish.
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>>6877852
>Scat is inherently unsanitary.

duh
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>>6877852
>>6877854
>>6877860
>>6877862
Scat is on my word filter list.
There's been alot of hidden posts recently.
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zzzzzzzzz my fetish is better than ur fetish zzzzzzz
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>>6877854
Just as a heads up, this was already discussed.
>>6877420

>>6877852
It's hard to explain. It's kind of somewhere between getting turned on by depravity and wanting to care for or fuck something that needs care and dependence.

It could be linked with alcoholism, drug use, over-eating, corruption or other things. If depravity turns you on, watching someone causing detriment to their health for their own pleasure or in order to receive pleasure can be arousing.

Over-eating, bingeing, addiction etc leads to increasing obesity, greater and greater risk of disease and a higher dependency on others.

Smoking, drug use etc leads to lower stamina, weight loss, incontinence and again, greater dependency.

For me I enjoy "health detriment" not for the actual diseases or symptoms, but rather the depravity and dependency. It's pleasure derived from the perversion of the stigma, danger and fear associated with real world diseases.

To be fair, fantasy "diseases" that just cause "sexy" effect can be just as arousing for me and I don't need things to be body horror so I consider myself a "light peruser of health detriment"
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>>6877869
>implying your fetish isn't shit both literally and metaphorically
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