Why is nobody starting a new thread? Edition
Previous thread: >>6819991
>related hentai
>greentext
>monster girls
>general lewdness
>doujinshi recommendations
>anime/manga recommendations
>preferably recommendations that are on-topic
>cuteposting
>vocaroos
>What is Role Reversal?
http://rolereversalreader.tumblr.com/post/108492906077/finished-the-faq-for-relationship-role-reversal
New Map:
https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1618907
Old Role Reversal Map:
https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1239585#
FetLife Group
https://fetlife.com/groups/121948
irc channel: irc.irchighway.net , #gfd
/rr/ and /gfd/ megapastebins:
http://pastebin.com/7NfGfusP (embed)
http://pastebin.com/evbfjazh (embed)
New doujin list
http://pastebin.com/BjvGSkMi (embed)
GFD masterpost
http://pastebin.com/PNpCd606 (embed)
Forum:
http://gfdrr.freeforums.net/
8ch board (allows 3DPD):
http://8ch net/gfd/
Animated film:
>Garden of Words
Live Action:
>Angel-A
>Tramps like Us (Drama version)
Anime/Manga:
>Witch Craft Works
>Freezing
>Madan no Ou to Vanadis
>Morobito: Guardian of the Spirit
>Monster Musume no Iru Ichijou
>Soredemo Sekai wa Utsukushii (The world is still beautiful)
>Akame ga Kill*
>Infinite Stratos
>Accel World*
>The Pet Girl of Sakurasou*
>Danna ga Nani o Itteiru ka Wakaranai Ken
>Tasogare otome x Amnesia
>Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun
>Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun
>Amagami*
>Oji-san to Marshmallow
>Claymore
>Mizutama Honey Boy
>FLCL
>Rosario + Vampire
>Photon: The Idiot Adventures
Manga/Light Novel:
>Unbalance x Unbalance
>Otoyomegatari
>Sensei Lock-on
>Arakawa under the bridge
>Natsuyuki Rendezvous
>Otomen
>Kimi wa Peto/Tramps like us
>Hokago play
>Game Over
>Takane no Hana Nara Ochitekoi!!
>Tsugumomo
>Ore x Yome
>Altina the Sword Princess
>Ane no Onaka o Fukuramaseru wa Boku
>Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria
>Waltraute-san no Konkatsu Jijou
>Jomungand
>Arms peddler
>Girls of the Wilds
>Green Boy
>Onihime VS
>The Legend of Maian
>Puppy Lovers
>Ookii Onnanoko wa Suki Desu ka?
Visual Novels
>Junipers Knot*
>Hustle Cat (Mason route)
*/gfd/ is not the main focus
>Hentai list
http://pastebin.com/jVY1dAeb (embed)
>Doujin list
http://pastebin.com/5w7qgrM6 (embed)
Feel free to add recommendations
Taking bets on how long it takes this thread to descend into cancerous shitposting.
Come one come all.
10/1 on less than 10 posts. 6/1 on less than 30. 2/1 on 50 or less. No returns on longer bids but we welcome your custom all the same!
>>6826740
I think we were all trying to recover, also take this poll.
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I hope it's appropriate
I will come back to post in 20 mins
>>6826753
>I think we were all trying to recover
From what? What happened last thread?
>>6826760
Man just...man.
>>6826760
We had a friendly discussion about feminism while the subs hid under the bed.
To set the thread off in a different direction, what would you guys say is the distinction between gfd and rr?
>>6826765
I would think role reversal is simply switching what is traditional roles in a household dynamic. I. E. the home maker is the guy the bread winner (which sounds like a full contact sport) would be the gal.
Femdom is, in my opinion, more strongly tied to the kink community. It seems more situational than the 24/7 of role reversal.
>>6826765
Well I see the distinction as a sexual one. rr is just when the woman does traditionally male things, like work the most, and and husband raises the kids. gfd is a sexual fetish and/or lifestyle. Pretty simple really and DAMN IT TAS I WAS GOING TO POST THAT PIC
RR is more traditional in that each person is their own entity, just one follows and the other leads - while with gfd my boy is more my property and pet to do with what I will.
I'll still love on him, pet his dorky little head, and cuddle the shit out of him, but I'll also do other less cutesy things when I want too.
>>6826813
gets me every time
so has anyone had any luck on a dating site? Not like a kink one just a normal dating site for just meeting new people.
GFD Story List:
Taiyakisoba:
The Dragon's Heart:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/6475483
Absorption:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/5343203/chapters/12337505
The Vixen:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/5202542/chapters/11990246
Under the Falcon's Wing:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/4653132/chapters/10613943
The Leprechaun's Charms:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/3645492
The Sentimental Succubus:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/3241379/chapters/7061726
A Taste for Christmas Cake:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/3145253/chapters/6822353
Takeover:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/2779652/chapters/6235439
Wings of Desire:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/2760794
In Her Argent Embrace:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/2606318/chapters/5806514
Bringing the Heat:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/2454164/chapters/5439332
Love-Love Umbrella:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/2219088
SifSub:
Until you are:
http://pastebin.com/KbnXtAbp
My manager is my mistress
http://pastebin.com/TJAvFqgf
I don't bite
http://pastebin.com/hWmZEyjb
Smolbrit:
Minotaur's Labyrinth:
http://pastebin.com/b7dURJkY
The Bear and the Wolf Cub
http://pastebin.com/4PQW6E5B
Others:
Pretty Human (by Sea Foam):
http://seafoam.pbworks.com/w/page/77839289/Pretty%20Human
Love You to Bits! (By EnielWings):
http://enielwings.deviantart.com/art/Love-You-to-Bits-Moge-ko-x-Male-Reader-601305872
Escape from the Bermuda Triangle
http://archiveofourown.org/works/5737978/chapters/13222708
Assassin (by DAGDAMMIT)
http://pastebin.com/yhxfhU8T
If a girl held me as the little spoon and told me I was safe and she'd never let me be alone again, I think I'd cry
>>6826985
100%.
Does anyone have more captions or where can I get them from? There the best <3
>>6826985
>She then promises you that from now on, she'll only allow you to cry tears of joy
>>6826985
>sleeping with my girlfriend in college
>wake up in the middle of the night
>kinda cold, I roll over and face away from her
>feel her put her arm around me and pull me close
>her body is so warm I fall back asleep instantly
Honestly one of the happiest moments of my life desu.
Who else really likes the idea of an emotionally stoic girlfriend? She always stays calm under pressure, although sometimes she has a little difficulty understanding and expressing her own feelings. That's ok though, because she's always willing to listen as I rant on about whatever's bothering me and all the silly things I've been thinking about, and then at the end she lets me collapse into her soft arms as she strokes my hair.
>>6826994
I know I have more, unfortunately they're mixed in with every other picture on my phone.
But yeah captions are absolutely the best, I hope people make/post more.
>>6826780
Just wanted to point out that you can have an rr relationship without having the girl work and the guy stay at home, since that of course won't be feasible for everyone. You can have the girl be the driver when you go places, default to big spoon during cuddling, initiate sex more often and be on top during sex, generally decide what to do and when, tons of things to make the guy feel more subordinate.
>>6826740
>reading that last thread
What a bleak version of what at first a hidden corner of the internet where men were allowed to express themselves and commune with other similar men without any form of judgement, which ever the logic or the argument might be.
Now it's either men sucking up or impotently lashing out. I keep reading these posts by the "subs" and none of them reflect in their writing any sense of identity or solidarity with other men like when these threads started (not especially in the that format of the op), it's all appeals in one form or another. and the "doms" are consciously and insidiously trying to subvert any sense of male community and establish female social matrix in which they regally control valid opinion and topics of discussion.
If you're going to ask, I don't think its fixable. Migrate and next time care to not let these types of women in.
So I've been talking to a nice lady for a few days, you know, trying to see where it could go. Today I told her about /gfd/ and /rr/. Now keep in mind this is the first times we've really talked about kinks and even really anything sexual and I guess she was so offended by what I'm into she isn't talking to me anymore =/
"I am not interested in your proposition but thought id throw out a couple of terms for you.... assuming the role of a woman is pretty dam insulting to us women btw. You want to be submissive. And assume the role of a sub to a Dom. Since you dont want the Master/slave hardcore rough dynamic try Mommy/son (you can google Daddy Dom/little girl dynamics for a basic idea).....anyways, just thought id throw some lifestyle terms out for you."
>>6827134
>assuming the role of a woman is pretty dam insulting to us women btw
Dude what
>>6827141
Dude I have no idea. She seemed great until this.
>>6827134
Ok I really don't want to derail these threads with anything that could cause drama, but, one piece of advice... maybe try saying "traditionally feminine role" next time instead of "role of the woman", or alternatively just wait until you've been on a few dates before you start talking about kinks.
Ok, back to your regularly schedule content of pics and stories.
>>6827134
>>6827141
>assuming the role of a woman is pretty dam insulting to us women btw
I presume that translates to: 'I am insulted when men don't want to be a living ATM and disposable bodyguard'.
>>6827152
She brought up kinks and shit and that wasn't my wording. But back on track, we need some drawfags here bad.
I was reading Reddit when I stumbled upon these posts discussing sexuality and role reversal. It makes me wonder, what chance does this fetish/lifestyle have to become more well known?
>>6826994
here ya go, friendo
I started playing/reading Starless in hopes of there being more femdom like in the hentai, but holy shit that VN is fucked up. It starts out decent, but after like day 5 or 6 things take a turn for majorly disgusting and bizarre...
I haven't seen an anime in ages?
What anime from the list should I pick?
Please not pic related
>>6827196
>femdom comic
>halfway through the male becomes the dominant part
Everytime.
Every fucking time.
Why cant there just be a femdom comic where the female takes the lead throughout the entirety of the comic?
>>6827266
Why are these threads always full of misogynists?
>>6827269
Forget it Jake, it's 4chan.
http://incaseart.tumblr.com/
inCase, some great traps/monster girl and guy
>>6827269
It's the same guy trolling in every thread. Report and ignore him.
>>6827266
I mean... you understand that we're here because we like pleasing women, right?
Everyone's welcome as long as they don't derail the thread.
>>6827274
You know more than one person can disagree with you, right?
>>6827074
That's pretty much how our relationship is, just with bonus pegging and bondage.
>>6827134
It sounds like you brought it up in a really clumsy/offensive way, to be honest. It seems like she was offended by your assertion that submissive=feminine, which makes sense if she's a dominant woman. Anyway, you can't win 'em all, take her advice on board and move on.
>>6827274
This.
>>6827269
'Full of misogynists'? It was one person, I get the feeling you're a butthurt feminist.
>>6827274
>>6827290
>e-everyone who disagrees with me is one person samefagging!!!
>>6827318
>offended by your assertion that submissive=feminine
Honestly, if we can't say that part of being feminine is being submissive, then what meaning does the word "feminine" have? What we need to dissociate is being a woman from necessarily being feminine, not femininity from submissiveness.
I feel like my interest in this fetish is best expressed as, "I want to be the feminine partner". That brings in all the right associations. Just saying "I want to be submissive" doesn't quite cut it, because one can be quite masculine while also being submissive. I don't think anyone should be offended by that. I don't get offended when people tell me I'm not masculine, or when a dom woman says "I want to be masculine", because I know there's no law that says I have to be masculine.
(I'm not any of the gays you replied to, btw.)
>>6827330
*guys, not gays
>>6827172
Not sure to be honest, right now it's mostly limited to this thread although I've seen a few mentions on other 4chan boards. I do think the potential is there though, I've seen posts before on other websites (like the image you posted) from people wishing for a role reversed relationship.
For it to get public acceptence however we would need a further collapse of gender roles, especially male gender roles (which means we need either a stronger men's rights movement or a feminist movement that actually cares about liberating men) as while women acting masculine is tolerated there is a very strong stigma against men who act feminine.
>>6827330
Well I would assume you're not any of the gays I responded to either, as you're talking about heterosexual relationships.
I can 100% see your point, but people who don't hang around in communities like this one probably would not get that at all, hence the offence. This role reversal/reverse 50s household stuff isn't all that mainstream so it's easy to read statements like that as 'I think women should be submissive but I myself am a snowflake'. There are enough people out there who genuiney think like that. Regardless, I still think it was a bit oversensitive of her.
>>6827269
They're drawn here by dipshits that take bait.
>>6827318
She didn't even say feminine, though. The words were "the role of a woman." Hard to avoid saying something like that if you're talking about role reversal.
But yeah some people are easy to trigger.
>>6827540
Well, no, not really, you could say 'I enjoy being in the submissive role' or 'the passive role'. I feel like what probably happened here is that anon was trying to subtly explain the kink as you would to a completely ignorant normie, but a lot of the language you might use to do that can be quite offensive to people who are already involved in kink. Like how you might feel if someone tried to explain the concept of a meme to you as if you were a retard, when you've already been on 4chan for years (presumably). It's a thing that can happen. Best to just move on from it.
>tfw someone posted an image that I drew ages ago
>last thread
I-I was remembered. ;_;7
I was in a /gfd/ relationship that fell through not too long ago and I really miss the way that I felt as a partner, and the person I was able to be in that time. I'd love to draw more stuff but I don't know if I could even get up the inspiration for that.
Any suggestions? I have some time to burn tonight.
>>6828008
O was it the bunny girl sitting on the dudes face! I requested that one! Sorry to hear that you're not doin' so great hun, but you know you'll get better! I would like to request more bunny girls!
>>6828008
I don't see as many of these, but I'm personally more fond of cuddlerape than actual sexing in this kind of thing. Maybe some pictures of the pre-fuck lovin, if you're into that as well.
Sleepy thread today.
Jeez, where is everyone today?
>>6828062
I'm sulking and feeling sorry for my self mostly.
>>6828065
Care to share why?
>>6828062
I've been rotating from writing /gfd/ smut to marathoning Space Ghost C2C and watching anime
>>6828062
Playin videro gaems.
>wanting to propose to my boyfriend of 5 years
>try to measure his ring finger when he's asleep
>every time I go for it his hand is either tightly closed or he wakes up screaming when I touch his hand
He's a giggly guy, and I hope he doesn't start laughing when I finally do it... if I can get his ring size that is.
>>6828069
Well I've never had a car before, I'm 21 and I just got my DL. So I bought a really good car for a really good price and I was all happy. But now I can't get the fucking title in my name cuz the tag agency is being a bag of dicks and THREE of the tires went flat. I just feel like if I had a car my whole life would be so much better, I live in the midwest so it's hard to so, like, anything without one. So now that I'm so close to being able to like, go on dates and get a job that isn't shit it feels even worse.
>>6828079
>wakes up screaming
That's so cute. You can try to measure his ring size when you two hold hands maybe.
>>6828079
>he wakes up screaming when I touch his hand
This sounds like a story.
Also good luck trying.to figure out the ring size without him knowing, that shit hard. My fiance actually proposed with the ring because she was tired of waiting and wanted to do it before she lost nerve.
Course you could just get a collar, those are even better than rings.
>>6828084
Damn. That sucks, man.
I'm 19 and I don't drive yet, either.
>>6828079
This is so precious! Good luck, I'm sure he'll love it.
>>6828103
Stay strong man, I had to take my test 4 times. YOU CAN DO IT!
>>6828087
How
>>6828094
And how did she end up doing it?
I put a re-sizable ring on him and told him to "make sure it fits" and he said "its fine"
because he thought I was just dicking around by putting one of my girly rings on him. the ring size could either be 8 or 9 from what I can tell but I really don't want to fuck it up. Getting it down to two sizes just isn't good enough, I want to know exact sizing- considering I'd be ordering the ring online.
>>6828107
Well you can compare your fingers to his and extrapolate from there. If you git it off by a smidgen it won't matter that much.
>>6828107
Oh I mistyped, I meant to say without. On mobile, and she is distracting me with drunken head past.
>>6828079
Why marry him when you could just tie him up and keep him in your basement forever?
Is it because taxes?
>>6828107
Also if you DO get it a bit wrong I think you can just have it resized for like, next to nothing.
>>6827061
My girlfriend is exactly like this. And she sort of has control issues. She panics if she feels like she is not in control. It's perfect for /gfd/.
She's grateful to me for letting her be in control and not threatening her dominance. It brings out her affectionate side, which I love to see because she's usually so stoic. You know, it does feel like there is something oddly masculine about willingly giving the reins to your woman to help protect her sense of security. I love it.
>>6827318
>It sounds like you brought it up in a really clumsy/offensive way, to be honest. It seems like she was offended by your assertion that submissive=feminine, which makes sense if she's a dominant woman. Anyway, you can't win 'em all, take her advice on board and move on.
This, 100%.
>6827330
Just say you want the role that would generally be called "feminine".
>>6828138
Man I just told her the definition of role reversal!
>>6828119
Taxes and a shared bank account- would make grocery runs easier- as well as pooling money together for vacations.
>>6828118
I asked if he wanted to get married about 2 years ago but I need something more physical. He doesn't see the need in being married since we live together but there are a lot of benefits.
>>6828120
I've heard its harder to do with titanium, which is what I'm going for since its more manly. I hope his friends don't tease him too much for it. maybe I can just get the larger one (size 9) and have them line it with some metal if it doesn't fit.
>Try to measure again
>He wakes up and shouts "THE PACKAGE IS HERE"
>Immediately falls back asleep
>open front door out of curiosity
>package
weird
Thank you /gfd/ for discussing this with me, I'm actually super nervous about well, everything! He really likes black diamonds so the ring isn't going to be cheap, not to mention I'd feel so silly getting on one knee, or in public so I have no idea how I'd go about asking. I just know I want to take him to a place he's never been, and ask him to spend the rest of his life with me.
Happy Birthday Rental Boyfriend
https://nhentai.net/g/150173/
I'm never confident how much my interests overlap with /gfd/ and /rr/ crowds- I focus mostly on fantasies of male ravishment & objectification? But with that caveat in mind, this is one of my favorite h-manga.
>>6828147
>He wakes up and shouts "THE PACKAGE IS HERE"
Next time you try to wake him up please record it for us.
>>6828147
>in public
I don't think anyone should propose in a public place, it shows insecurity I feel like. Just do what feels right girl, love will do the rest of the work for you. Be sure to keep us updated and show us the bling girl!
>>6828147
He's clearly psychic. You must use his power for the greater good.
Any /gfd/s up? Gotta question for you.
IF you decided to get/were pregnant, how comfortable would you be with your sub rubbing your belly? Would you try to incorporate any other aspect of belly worship while you were up the duff?
Also, sidebar for the more general population: any more pregnancy/impregnation themed hentai I should check out? My google-fu keeps failing me and my usual haunts (sad panda, luscious, and hitomi.la) have but a paltry offering.
>>6828185
Well now I have a new fetish.
>>6828185
Eh. Pregnancy is gross.
I'm sure I'll want a kid EVENTUALLY, but as for right now, no.
>>6828185
I like that idea, but I really fucking hate kids.
>>6827126
>I keep reading these posts by the "subs" and none of them reflect in their writing any sense of identity or solidarity with other men like when these threads started
That sort of environment is also why I stay away from online femdom communities, despite being very interested in harsher bdsm as well as being in an f/m relationship.
Any sadness expressed by a sub about being lonely or having trouble finding someone is dismissed as him being a whiner and obviously not having anything to offer. Any complaints about traditional expectations of him to significantly contribute financially or being expected to initiate are treated with disdain.
Compare this with femsub communities who will support one of their own over any maledom retard who attempts to call any of them losers.
>>6828273
NO FUCKING STOP
>>6828185
It'd be a bit weird because there's a baby in there and with belly worship it kind of feels like a three way with a fetus
>>6828306
This is not "argue about feminism" general, stay on topic or go to /pol/.
>>6828273
>>6827357
when you realize that gender roles are biological and that social engineering campaigns to end them will result in even worse atrocities
>>6828195
>Pregnancy is HAWT.
FTFY (birthing is what's gross)
>>6828361
>Well, I didn't say that, did I?
>For it to get public acceptence however we would need a further collapse of gender roles
>>6828079
Man I get stressed out thinking about this shit. How are you supposed to figure out someone's ring size without giving the game away?! How do people do that shit?!
To be honest, I think that if I got to the point where I was planning to propose, I would probably just spike my sub's drink and measure his finger while he was knocked out before I got to the molesting part. Makes life easier. But I don't know how the hell normies do it.
>>6828147
Oh hey you have a sleep screamer too. My boyfriend screams like he's being murdered if anything happens while he's asleep.
> door opens so a chink of link falls on his face
> AAAAARRRRGGHH SCHBFJBFLUEBLRW
> sheet gets stuck to his back
> AAAAARRRRGGHH SCHBFJBFLUEBLRW
> hears someone slam a door down the corridor
> AAAAARRRRGGHH SCHBFJBFLUEBLRW
> I roll over/stop spooning him
> AAAAARRRRGGHH SCHBFJBFLUEBLRW
It's kind of stressful, I always worry he's actually hurt himself or something.
>>6828185
I would not want anybody's fetish anywhere near my baby. That's fucked up imo.
>>6828444
>chink of link
>>6828449
Asians love cosplay too.
>>6828444
Does it cost a lot to get a ring re-sized? I imagine you can get a rough estimate while he's sleeping and get it re-sized later.
>>6828471
Should be 70 at the most, but you go to a mom and pop place I'm sure you can get it closer to 30.
>>6828471
If you're making it larger it's pretty easy and quick. Gold is soft so it can be stretched very easily with a machine. Err on the side of too small
>>6828471
Some jewelry shops include ring sizing for free.
Also, talk to your jeweler about wether to go larger or smaller. If they brush you off or don't know, go somewhere else.
>>6828273
Good luck, the very label MRA is toxic now. MRAs are right about a lot of things, but very few people are willing to call themselves that. I don't like the label, but agree with most of what I've heard about them.
>>6828319
We're in a thread about gendered roles discussing gendered things, we couldn't be more on topic.
>>6827269
Why is any criticism of women immediately classified as misogyny?
>>6827284
>I mean... you understand that we're here because we like pleasing women, right?
But also because we've decided to value ourselves more than mainstream society does. Part of valuing yourself is not taking bullshit from people.
>>6827330
>Just saying "I want to be submissive" doesn't quite cut it, because one can be quite masculine while also being submissive.
Not to mention that most people's image of submissive men comes from mainstream femdom and all its attendant repulsiveness. They'll get the completely wrong idea if you don't clarify things.
>>6828185
g.e-hentai.org is a good option, they have a pretty robust tagging system. Try "femdom impreg" after disabling the "western" category at the top (green one).
>>6828508
Because a number of people. both men and women, can't tell the difference between disliking individuals and disliking groups. It's not just a gender thing, it's everything.
>>6828501
>gendered roles
No, you in a thread about a fetish and a lifestyle. Not a thread about how feminism.
>>6828319
/pol/ is full of traditionalists. They dislike feminism for completely different reasons, and they'd hate /gfd/.
Also, like >>6828501 said, gender-related discussion is completely on-topic for a thread based on something that deals directly with gender issues.
>>6828521
But not the way you're doing it. Y'all are acting like this is /pol/. Look at >>6828515 they are staying on topic AND talking about gender issues.
>>6828526
Well keep up the good work then!
>>6828533
But which one of me are you talking to? I'm so confused.
Also, nice picture. I'm not really into lamias, but being enslaved by pleasure is my favorite /gfd/ scenario.
>>6826766
I love that pic. He used to be my husbando so I feel attracted to him, and he looks pretty hot there.
Anyways, I'm new here (on /d/) and I think I like RR. I like VNs. Is there a single RR/femdom VN out there which focuses on the male?
Sorry if I used some terminology wrong.
>wake up at 2:50 AM
where my night cats @ nyaa~?
>>6828592
In your shoes I'd investigate "josei" VNs. I've seen alot with at least one good scene in that vein? (If you aren't aware, josei=for older women in same way shounen=for boys.)
>>6828653
...Wait, I take it back, searched that term and it was useless except in context of manga. Think I actually had "otome games" in mind.
Gonna see if I can come up with anything worth linking.
>>6828079
>>6828444
I don't see the problem in just straight up asking to measure their ring size. Proposing to someone should be done only after having discussed the topic properly and knowing what the other person is going to answer. So measuring their finger doesn't really give the game away. They'll know you're on the market for a ring but that doesn't help them in figuring out what type of a ring you're getting or when you're going to propose. They should know that you're going to propose at some point anyway.
This is obviously for an /rr/ relationship where you expect the woman to propose. In a normal relationship asking for the man's ring size would totally give it all up and ruin the surprise.
>>6828672
Or if you want to keep it a secret propose with a collar and then take them ring shopping afterwards.
>>6828361
Removing the pressure to conform to gender roles just creates confused and dysfunctional people. I mean, look at the average poster in this thread. Traditional gender roles are good for society and individuals, but people often don't know what's good for them.
>>6828653
>>6828659
I like otome games and as far as I'm concerned there are a few games with female dominance, but they're not translated. Thank you for replying, though. Also, I don't know if it's acceptable, but I read a certain manga a while ago, I loved it, except for one part, it's called Laughing Counselor, by Nanboku (I didn't see it in your doujin list so I thought of sharing it here) but I don't know if you already know about it
>>6828679
Captions have always been my favorite. In general, I've always been more aroused by words than pictures. And all the captions posted in this thread so far have gotten me rock hard. I understand why some people aren't into them though, especially if you aren't into the particular fetish being described.
I think I like them so much because most of my deeply-held fetishes revolve around mental states - feelings of deep submission and contentment, ring consumed by desire, feeling ashamed of an urge and trying to resist it before eventually giving in - and it's really only possible to describe the nuances of these mental states in words. There are other fetishes that work this way too. The pictures that get posted in the fart threads are more silly to me than arousing for example, because no woman has a visible green cloud come out of her asshole when she farts, but some of the fart stories that people post make me cum buckets.
Anyway, you're right that none of these captions would ever play out spontaneously, but I think role playing these scripts would be really hot.
>>6828676
>Removing the pressure to conform to gender roles just creates confused and dysfunctional people.
No, living in a society that doesn't let you be who you are creates confused and dysfunctional people.
>>6828676
Why do traditionalists even come to these threads? Do you think we haven't already heard and rejected things like this?
>>6828579
>I'm also a big fan of that kind of enslavement, it's just hard to find stuff that's A. about men, and B. not hardcore shit.
You might like this blog: http://mindbrokenmen.tumblr.com/
It's all about men surrendering to women for irresistible pleasure and agreeing to be stay-at-home sex slaves.
>>6828763
>http://mindbrokenmen.tumblr.com/
REAL PEOPLE, YOU SICKEN ME [spoiler] thanks bro [/spoiler]
>>6828763
>normie porn with out of place captions written
WHY
>>6828787
Man, when the well is dry, sometimes you gotta drink your own piss you know what I'm saying home slice? Down low you get me!
>>6828788
mmm~ I feel you
up top
>>6828787
The captions give the sex a new context that's unique and interesting.
>>6828756
Because there are some people who are compartmental traditionalists.
Personally, I see a disconnect between public and private life (even though I know a lot of people who would disagree, fuck you college). I only want to give up power in a relationship when it's in private. In public, I have an image to upkeep, can't have all my hard work setting up an appearance/persona go to waste by having a girl I'm dating take charge in public.
Now by all means I'm fine with her punishing me for it in private later, but at least it's not a public affair.
And yes, before anyone mentions it, I'm quite aware that pride comes before the fall.
>>6828756
Accepting gender roles isn't traditionalism, it's just realism.
>>6828877
>>6828871
I'm into this kind of thing myself, but I suppose "compartmental" traditionalist is a good way of saying it. It's the mindset I've got. If it was socially acceptable for this to be a common thing for men, I'd likely still be compartmental about it anyways, but I wouldn't have a problem with seeing it openly either.
For me, practicality often outweighs what I'd like. Sometimes, I wish I was taller, but I'm not going to wear stilts to do it. I'm gonna play the hand of cards I was dealt to the best I can do it, and what happens behind a locked door isn't anyone else's business.
>>6828891
Thanks mate, for explaining this better than I could.
>>6828871
If that's how you want to live, then that's fine for you. But there's no reason to tell other people that they should be like you.
>>6828877
Sub guys are submissive in the same way gay guys are gay. It's just who they are. Do you also think we should try to reprogram gay guys to be straight?
>>6828449
Chink of light. Sorry, I'd only been awake about an hour.
>>6828672
Ehh, even though we're in an /rr/ relationship, I'd still like it to be a surprise if I proposed. I don't think he'd expect it even with how the rest of our relationship is. So I'd hate to ruin the surprise.
>>6828675
Now this is an idea I like, I already have his collar size.
>>6828750
>>6828756
>>6828891
'Traditionalism' != Believing in the fact of biological gender roles.
I don't care what you do in the privacy of your own homes, I don't care if it's good for society or the individuals in it. I'm correcting you when you say shit like: "Break down gender roles." Gender roles cannot be broken down because they are the result of human sexual dimorphism.
Often, even when people have the best of intentions, these measures will result not in people with abnormal views on their own sexuality being accepted, but instead rejecting people who do not have the same fringe mindset.
IE:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hegemonic_masculinity
http://www.politicalresearch.org/2014/06/19/mass-shooters-have-a-gender-and-a-race/#sthash.9habt4gK.dpbs
The solution to this is promoting individual freedom as a whole. It obviously isn't screaming people out of the conversation by labeling them as traditionalists or right wingers.
>>6828849
Female platitudes about sex and erotica like this disgust me to no end.
And sure enough, someone is going to bite.
>>6828926
>Chink of light
still didn't know that was a saying.
>>6828926
are you planning to put a ring on it? Cuz if you like it ya should.
>>6828952
You'll do more harm than good by preaching against posting about contested topics. Let drama be settled openly.
>sometimes she makes me get on my knees when she bullies me
>She says it's because I belong there, it's my natural state
>This is true but I also think it's so she can feel tall
>I would never voice such an idea though, because I am a good boy
Have any of you guys ever fantasized about having a butch lesbian "dyke-type" gf in an rr relationship. I feel like their is something innately masculine about their demeanor that most other most other women don't seem to comprehend.
I can't be the only one here. I even started watching niche lesbian porn and fantasizing being the bottom girl
>>6828939
If gender roles are so natural, why was it necessary to force individuals to conform to them? Sounds like the opposite of 'individual freedom' to me.
>>6828993
I never described it as "dyke" per-say, but girls who are "tough as nails" are a huge turn on for me personally
>>6828995
>If gender roles are so natural, why was it necessary to force individuals to conform to them? Sounds like the opposite of 'individual freedom' to me.
People aren't forced to conform to gender roles, and I didn't even allude to it being a good thing if they were.
>>6826755
I REMEMBER THIS GAME! This was one of those Meet N' Fuck games, but this was the teacher version or something like that. I'd play it on Newgrounds and fap to it almost every single day years ago.
>>6828942
Agreed.
I wish women would stop posting here.
>>6829011
Yes, they are, especially men. The fact that the concept of /gfd/ and /rr/ is so radical to mainstream society is evidence of this.
>>6829071
It could also be evidence of gender roles being innate traits. This topic is way out of you two's league.
>>6829028
Actually that CG is from a VN with art by the creator of Bible Black. It's called Cleavage. I haven't played it, though. But I played the Meet 'n' Fuck game from Newgrounds.
>>6828952
source on that screenshot?
>>6829082
Well, the Meet n' Fuck series stole from that artist, I suppose. Regardless, looking at the picture makes me want to go play and furiously fap, again.
>>6829077
>>6829077
If gender roles were completely innate traits, this topic would have no appeal to it. The feminist movement wouldn't be so large and the men's rights movement wouldn't be growing.
>>6828925
Yes, just simply because they are objectively wrong.
>>6828960
Nah, we've only been dating like six months. We'd have to have been living together for a while before I'd consider proposing, I think.
>>6828942
>>6829041
90% sure that post was from a dude, and 100% sure you're an idiot.
>>6828939
Why are you posting that article when it states many times that almost all "masculine" traits are artificial constructs not supported by biology? It's the exact opposite what you're arguing.
>>6829110
Yes, it was pretty fucking hot
>>6829140
A man would never make a comment like that. Women just don't have the knowledge of themselves or others required to understand what a post like that means.
>>6829071
adjective: forced
obtained or imposed by coercion or physical power.
You don't have to conform to gender roles in the same way I don't have to wipe my ass.
>>6829077
I refer you to the above post where I stated that gender is innate and biological
>>6829142
I'm posting that article as an example of the divisiveness of 'deconstructing gender'
>>6829113
>Gender roles are socially constructed because people argue about whether they are socially constructed or not
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=circular+argument
>>6829184
>You don't have to conform to gender roles in the same way I don't have to wipe my ass.
I do like how you chose a metaphor that involves you doing something that smears shit everywhere. It seems appropriate, somehow.
>Gender roles are socially constructed because people argue about whether they are socially constructed or not
The point is that if gender roles were so intrinsic to our very being, submissive men and dominant women wouldn't exist at all.
>>6829220
>I do like how you chose a metaphor that involves you doing something that smears shit everywhere. It seems appropriate, somehow.
(I did that on purpose)
>The point is that if gender roles were so intrinsic to our very being, submissive men and dominant women wouldn't exist at all.
(the exception doesn't disprove the rule)
Guys, how do you feel about having your nipples sucked by a woman? I love sucking men's nipples.
>>6829228
Very yes
>>6829184
Ostracism and discrimination are forms of coercion. So yes, forced.
You misunderstand my point about feminism and the MRM, if gender roles were completely innate there would not be movements against them.
>>6829223
It does when the exceptions are large enough, and when gender roles are only maintained through coercion against those who question them or refuse to conform.
Hence why opposition is growing, the anonymity of the internet weakens society's ability to ostracise those who question gender roles.
>>6829232
>Ostracism and discrimination are forms of coercion. So yes, forced.
What defines ostracism? If I laugh at a man for wearing a skirt, am I forcing him to not wear the skirt? obviously not.
>You misunderstand my point about feminism and the MRM, if gender roles were completely innate there would not be movements against them.
Do I need to click on the links in the search results for you? Alright.
"Circular reasoning is often of the form: "A is true because B is true; B is true because A is true." Circularity can be difficult to detect if it involves a longer chain of propositions. Academic Douglas Walton used the following example of a fallacious circular argument:"
>gender roles are real true because fighting gender roles is real; fighting gender roles is real because gender roles are real.
>>6829232
Hasn't the human race just gotten to a point where we're trying to resist or destroy anything that imposes on our free will, though? Aging is a very good example. You can't say aging isn't a natural process, but we're trying our damndest to resist it anyway.
I don't agree with the other guy, I just don't think your argument is very good.
>>6829242
I'm the other guy obviously and as I said in my original post appealing to gender roles being natural and therefor good is a fallacy.
>>6829247
Then in that case I can't even keep track of who is arguing with who anymore.
>>6829252
My argument isn't that gender roles are good because they are natural, I am saying that gender roles are natural and that you're going about solving the problem they pose in the wrong way.
>>6829255
Well I can't be arsed to try and unpick that clusterfuck further up the thread, so how do you propose we solve the problem?
>>6829265
Appreciating individual freedom as a whole instead of trying to tell people that biological gender roles are wrong that that the majority of people in society were born wrong.
Example:
If masculinity is a social construct, and masculinity does bad things to society, then those bad things are the result of direct malice on the part of masculine men rather than the natural processes that create more aggressive people.
>>6829143
Thank my, my friend.
>>6829271
this has absolutely nothing to do with gfd
>>6829268
The demonization of opposing viewpoints has become outright disgusting among social engineering types. They seem to do nothing but play the victim and cry "oppresssor!" at normal people who want to be left alone just as much as the social engineering types claim to.
If they want to be more accepted, perhaps they should stop being assholes
>>6828988
Anybody got a sauce for this? Google doesn't seem to give me shit.
>>6829110
Sauce?
>Be me
>Be 26
>Be virgin
>Wish I could find a woman that would treat me like some of these pictures
>A kind, gentle woman that is dominating at the same time
>Only experienced a woman cuddling me from behind once, loved it so much but she was a sub and have never experienced it again.
I posted in the last one thread AS it was at the limit. Fun times.
I wouldn't mind finding a woman to do this with, I own far to many sex toys.
I am already on the map and in GA :P but then again I was on the original map for months and got nothing, was on this map for months and got nothing. My info was deleted from map (Likely a purge or remake) and just reput info again.
>>6829525
Poor little baby's not going to find something unless he goes looking.
>>6829613
The issue with that is it's difficult to find places where a woman will approach a man.
>>6829492
No idea, man. Sorry.
I found it on /gif/ yesterday on a hentai thread
Okay so I got the spearmint tea like pic related suggested. It tastes like I'm eating pine needles. Do you add sugar to it or something, what the fuck?
>>6829679
This. This right here. I look, I try dating sites, I try in person, nothing, at all, ever :c
>>6829739
no ten foot tall ladies? Shocking.
>>6829735
Who else here has a major thing for smells?
>>6827245
>Please not pic related
That was fucking hilarious.
>>6829748
I do. I fucking love sniffing my girlfriend's tits, pussy, hair, ass, fucking everything. She has a very delicate natural scent that can drive my cock through brick walls
>>6829748
Not really.
>>6828676
>people often don't know what's good for them
>I do
Listen bro, I don't understand what gender roles in a relationship between 2 people has to with anything outside of that relationship. I'm sure, like probably 95% of the people in this thread, that no one would even recognize in public that it was a rr relationship. I've seen countless anons talk about how they work blue collar jobs and have to be "manly" all day, but love to go home to a qt Dom. Myself included (besides the Dom part). And society has been shit since humans were a thing, if I rr relationship is how you find your nitch then who cares?
>>6829748
Sex is about all 5 senses, anyone who says otherwise is a bitch.
>>6829736
If the guide is to be trusted, you can add basically any tea-additive except cream to improve the flavor.
makeup recommendations? My lady really wants to dress me up, but I want to be able to do some stuff to.
>>6829242
Just because something is natural doesn't mean it's good. Polio was very natural, but I doubt you think the polio vaccine was a bad idea. Aging and death are our enemies. You can't convince me otherwise.
>>6829896
YOU CAN ADD THINGS TO TEA!
>>6829242
>Hasn't the human race just gotten to a point where we're trying to resist or destroy anything that imposes on our free will, though?
And why shouldn't we?
>>6829917
>You can't convince me otherwise.
That's such an annoying thing that people say in arguments. I don't disagree with you, I think you're right, but damn that's annoying. Literally what is the point of trying to persuade someone of your point if you aren't willing to listen to their side? Saying "I won't change my mind" makes it like they're talking to a brick wall. Don't be that guy.
wow. I have finally gotten through one of these threads without closing it in disgust at the arguing and shitposting. good work everyone try to do it again next thread
>>6829679
Good God!
That picture is HOT!
>>6828501
>the very label MRA is toxic now. MRAs are right about a lot of things, but very few people are willing to call themselves that.
Makes no difference. You start up any group for men's issues, it will receive the same treatment.
Because a lot of MRA/men's issues go directly against women's interests, like family court matters, presumption of innocence, funding for male victims/at-risk-groups that could otherwise be claimed by groups for women if they can popularize the notion that boys and men aren't really affected, etc. And women make up the majority of voters in many democracies and majority of people in the world.
I'm not optimistic about the MRM or men's issues gaining widespread support. What I am optimistic about is the ability of males to come up with solutions. If there is sufficient awareness among males about their issues, there will be suggestions and attempts to address and remedy their condition regardless of whether there is overwhelming support.
>>6829928
I just didn't want someone to waste their time trying to convince me. I thought it would be better to just be upfront about it. Everyone has some things that are non-negotiable.
>>6829736
try going to a /ck/ tea thread, if it tastes grassy or something of like, brew it for less time.
>>6828062
I'm drowning in a whiskey river
Is this the place I go to get savagely beaten and then have myself held and cried on afterwards?
>>6830245
not really. the word "gentle" is operative here
>>6830252
Can we get rid of the word savagely and have it apply, then?
I-is (romantic) futa-on-male allowed here?
>>6830258
Yes
>>6827187
this is amazing. is there anything else themed like this?
>>6830258
Maybe
>>6830258
I don't know
>>6830258
COULD YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION
>>6830293
I-is romantic futa-on-male allowed here?
>>6830306
I suspect not, but I also suspect that if you started such a thread and linked it here, there wouldn't be much objection so long as it doesn't focus on futa-as-male-substitute stuff
>>6830293
YOU'RE NOT THE DOM OF ME NOW
>>6830312
Oh. S-sorry.
>>6828218
Anyone know where that image is from?
if you're the person from California who talked with me a lot on Omegle, and would like to actually continue, reply to me here.
>>6828676
>dont forget about moms spaghetti
>>6830322
R-ing Frankie Muniz and Brian Cranston being seduced by futas.
