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Previous thread >>6650394

Updated edition

Discuss lewd games, share your projects and have others critique them.
Post pictures (/d/ related preferably) to keep the thread alive.

Lose hope of making games here, and collaborate with others to not make games:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?pli=1#!forum/hentai-game-dev-group

>IRC:
irc.rizon.net
#/d/evs

>/d/ Catalog:
http://pastebin.com/Su7gb2iq
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Any new trap games not in the pastebin?
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>>6655347
Quote the OP if you have request for the pastebin
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>>6655136
Dark World can be a bit buggy but it's got some pretty interesting mechanics. I haven't really fapped to it yet, but I have greatly enjoyed selling off all my rival kingdoms princesses as sex slaves.
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>>6655337
I know /d/ is really homosexual when it comes to this topic;

But is there any western text based guro game to be found?

Cheers.
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>>6655470
In Free Cities you can amputate your slaves' limbs then make them fight to the death.
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So anything fun or fresh on the more interactive-sex angle? Most of the things I end up seeing are heavily text- based and even in the case of them being English, I just want to get off to something rather then read
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>>6655478

There's that dudebro 3D sex sim.

Forgot the name, but they were talking about adding dickgirls (futa) and releasing the source code last time I played it.
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>>6655489
Man I need to know this
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>>6655489
Why wouldn't all porn game devs make their project open source? Licence it so people can't steal it if you must, but often times devs will disappear without a word, so open source would allow for the project to continue.
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>>6655506
Because you don't just give away something you've poured hours into and you don't go through the hassel of spending money licensing something and having your name attached to deviant porn.
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>>6655507
You don't need to spend any money to attach a license. But yeah, this.
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>>6655507
>spending money
What? You attach whichever licence you want to it. GNU GPL, MIT, WTFPL, et cetera. Some open source licenses don't let people use your source code, get one of those. They're all basically just disclaimers to the source code telling the user precisely what they can and cannot do.
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>>6655510
And you think people will give a fuck what that license says you can't do why exactly?
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>>6655507
>having your name attached to deviant porn.
U wot m8?
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>>6655510
And what if someone actually steals your code and profits off of it? You have to spend time and money tracking them down and taking them to court, which may not even be possible if they live in russia or some other shit hole. Its just not worth it.
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>>6655513
If you pick, say, the GPL, that license is probably the most well-tested of all the open-source licenses, and thus the easiest to enforce. Hosts do actually give a shit about license violations, even if actual users won't.
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>>6655472

Wait, can you actually put quad-amputee slaves into a pit fight? That's fucked up even by Free Cities standards. It'd be more merciful to throw them in with actual lions.
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>>6655517
For that you have to go after them though, report the stuff to the hoster and actually show proof that they did violate the license.
There is no real positive effect for a dev to release his source code of a porn game, just possibly a lot of additional hassle and headaches with people shitting on your license left and right.
Unless you are some big company with a huge budget and a large legal team, there is no way that will work out for you.
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>>6655522
Agreed.
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>>6655470
Slaves also get various injuries from whoring/public use. They're mostly sorta minor, stuff like split lips and pulled muscles. Though they do lose health from them over time, and I think can die.

Except that they generally learn to avoid such injuries in the process of whoring. Becoming skilled prostitutes in order to avoid further pain and injury.

Also helps when the PC keeps them dosed on expensive regenerative future-drugs. Black eye? Bam, looking pretty as ever a couple days later. This time, knowing better than to talk back.

Ugh this game is disgusting, I can't get enough.
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>>6655543
Was looking into this game.
Is there actually a feature of you employing some guys roughing asshole customers up? I kinda feel like you need that for a proper simulation, like you have to find a balance between what you let slip through and what is enough to be roughed up by your guys.
Might be hard to implement in Twine though, so I guess not?
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>>6655543
I love the game, but the whole slave <> owner relationship is a bit lacking when it comes to RP, and RP mechanics.
Even with all the depth added it still feels just a breadcrumb away from being yet another dime a dozen soulless ~slave manager~ genre game.
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>>6655507
You seem to have a bit of a misconception there, you put a LICENCE file with your choice of licence in the code directory and push the game to github, there is really no need to put your name on it.
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>there will never be a /d/ game other than fc that gets anywhere near complete

Even the fucking twine games are incomplete, only alternative is CoC and that's all furry shite
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>>6655522
And what if you're like the vast majority of western porn devs and don't sell your games? Sure, you, as the dev, don't care. You have the source code either way, and problems could potentially appear because the source code is available. The benefit isn't for you, it's for the community. Your argument is the equivalent of saying "Why should I donate to charities? It doesn't benefit me at all!"
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>>6655598
They have patreons and the like a lot of times.
The difference in giving to a charity is me not actually running into trouble because of it and not having to go after idiots ignoring my license.
They can also use the code to do stuff with it I don't want to be associated with at all or not approve of at least. Charities are scrutinized in my country, so that's not a problem at all there.
You could also decide to make money off of a game in the future and not be able to because the code is out there already.

I happen to be a software developer and I only release source code if I do see some benefit from doing so or decide to abandon a project for good.
If I have created art for a program though, I don't release that.

Devs don't really seem to agree with your view of things and don't necessarily put the community first and that's perfectly fine.
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>>6655604
I don't release the art as open source, that is.

Also if you want to convince devs of changing their ways, you have to make them care and think that the benefits outweigh the troubles they could face.
As a dev I ultimately care about what benefits me. Might be selfish, but that's how I work.
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>>6655564
Yeah this. I think the creator even has all rights by default (in the USA). A license is literally just the developer setting terms for how others might use their work.
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How difficult would it be to repurpose say Cursed or Newlife as a trap simulator instead of a gender swap?
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>>6655629
This is precisely correct. Licenses are about giving permission to others. By default they can't legally do anything with your code.
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>>6655604
I find this stance interesting, because the open source community is massive and constantly growing, so it doesn't seem that far-fetched for more porn devs to start making their projects open source as well.
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>>6655676
Not like I never contribute(d) to it myself.
The difference is that I can see how it benefits me to help develop I product I want to use.
With open source software you have others chip in and advance development faster, come up with new ideas and the like.
But original games are mostly about telling your own story and most people don't want others to meddle in that.
The open source games community is a lot smaller and most stuff I find there is either a clone or remake of or at least very heavily inspired by other games. I am not saying there is no original stuff there, but even that mostly has no story.
It's just hard to compare that stuff to games where someone creates characters and a story.
So the reasons for not making it open source are a lot of times rooted in the devs also being authors.
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>>6655705
>telling your own story
write a book or make a movie
games are about letting players make their own stories, you just give them the tools to do so
some games give more tools, some give very few
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>>6655731
Make their own stories within the limits of what the developer wrote. Those developers may grant you a couple of different endings, maybe the story will even split into different paths that you can possibly switch between at certain points earlier than in late game already, but it's still the developer's story.
You may feel like it's the player's story, but it really isn't. It's what the developer wrote and you can't turn that into something else. You could if it were open source though and that's my point.
Crying about how all devs are shit for not wanting other people to mess with their stories and characters like any other author won't really help you either.
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>>6655378
What is dark world?
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>>6655842
Mod for CK2
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>>6655848
thank you
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Has the third dungeon been finished for CoC yet?
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>>6655859
Pretty sure the revamp mod has had it for a while. The official version will probably be bundled with Half-Life 3.
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>>6655864
It doesn't
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Anyone gonna tell 34-san to come here?
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>>6655869
http://coc-revamp-mod.wikia.com/wiki/Lethice%27s_Stronghold

Seems like it does to me. It's not complete though.
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>>6655874
You are.
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>>6655882
W-Why me, Senpai?
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>>6655878
If it is not complete then it isn't finished.
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>>6655891
Because you are the chosen one as told of in the prophesy.
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What are some simple game mechanics that would do really well with a tentacle hive-building themed game?
Tower defense?
Roguelike?
Base-building?
Top-down RPG?
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>>6655582
>CoC
>complete
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>>6655899
All of what you listed.

>>6655894
But I would just embarrasses myself senpai...
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>>6655894
Praise the heavens, he hath come!

>>6655899
Tower defense seems like a pretty obvious top choice for me.
Something like DF would also work, but might be a little complicated for an H-game.
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>>6655904
>Dwarf Fortress
How about something not as autistic?

I want the main theme of my game to revolve around subjugating and breeding females to build an army or expand the hive. Like, different spawnlings have different ways of being conceived and inherit the stats of their mothers. If the mother is a warrior-type, for example, her brood would have high strength and attack power. This would encourage the players to diversify the broodmothers they capture by seeking new places to enslave new races or people.

I'm not sure how big I want this game to be, but I'd prefer it if I could keep it relatively small, revolving around a few core mechanics.
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>>6655909
>How about something not as autistic?
>he says while pondering the logistics of a tentacle hive rape game
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>>6655911
I was joking. But seriously, I don't want it to be anywhere near as complex as DF. It's a fap-material-collection game, first and foremost (except you earn the fap by winning, not by losing)
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>>6655921
>he can't get off to dorf fort
Sounds good though, hope you actually make it
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>>6655922
I'm learning the ropes with Python game-making. I'm pretty sure I can make it work as an HTML file if I stick with text-only (but I'm a shitty writer).
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>>6655909
I always love being a minion master, so it would be awesome if you made it so we can only directly control the overmind, but could send out prime directives for the hive to accomplish as it will.
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>>6655927
That's a wee bit out of my league. Sorry.
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>>6655921
I did write it's too complicated for an H-game, did I not?
It just came to mind and if one were to make it a very easy DF like game with a good dose of tower defense, I think it would work.
DF is basically nothing but a very complicated version of your own base building proposition. You can easily look into DF and see what's good about it that could be used.
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>What are some simple game mechanics that would do really well with a tentacle hive-building themed game?

Dungeon Keeper style base construction.

The heart of the base is the hive cluster, the central brain of the overmind. The player can carve out rooms in the surrounding rock, delving for crystals and ores that help the hive prosper. Worker minions run resources while warriors and sentinels protect the hive.

As the hive grows, it attracts heroic attention. Bold adventurers and greedy treasure hunters delve into the hive. Fortunately, your tentacled guardians are standing by to reeducate these intrepid incubators and lead them to a glorious new existence serving the overmind.
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>>6655901
By western H-game standards, CoC is positively finished.
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>>6656107
You do know there is an image search option included in every post? You don't even have to make any sort of effort, you lazy fuck.
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>>6655637
>How difficult would it be to repurpose say Cursed or Newlife as a trap simulator instead of a gender swap?
Probably very easy judging by the last thread,the main things you would need to change are the pronouns and checks for when your penis gets exposed.

The bigger issue with both is that they are mostly vanilla as Hell. Cursed has some /d/ elements but most of the game is a daily grind and a chore.

There is a lot of streamlining to do if you use them as your template.

Alternatively you can also try to do a sort of adventure game where your character was cursed and so can only equip "female" equipment to use a different kind of framework, given that we don't have that many games where you play as a dancer class or concubine class in RPGs
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>>6656174
Yeah I've been playing Cursed today.
It feels like it should have loads of content, but is actually empty and devoid of anything.
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So is No Haven really hard or am I just retarded? I get barely two months into the game before being enslaved myself.

Also RAGS sucks.
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>>6655899
>>6655904
>>6655909
>>6655911
>>6655927
>>6655930
>no Dungeon Keeper
guys cmon
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You know what I want? An option when you're enslaving the posh mother and daughter, to have them fight to the death and only enslave the winner.
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>>6655554
Bad customers now occasionally get apprehended by your drones and forced to pay you compensation.
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>>6656230
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>>6655970
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>>6656322
>no quote link
It's his own fault.
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>>6656187
It actually isn't, it's just that all the good content is locked behind TWO FUCKING MONTHS of railroaded developer waifuism and repetitive micromanagement.
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Does the stripper job actually lead anywhere in cursed?

I'm trying to become a whore, but I'm sensing the only thing the stripper job can offer me is that bug which eats my sandals.
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>>6656353
none of the jobs do anything
the meat of the game is the transformations, which you can only access after 60 days of obeying the designated waifu
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>>6656391
Oh. Well.
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>>6655922
Chrissakes it's such an easy game to mod. I keep wondering why there are no true porn mods for it.
With just a little dicking around I made a minotaur with addictive jizz. Game limitation was that the NPC addicts had no way of knowing how to satisfy the cravings, but the mechanics were consistent.
>contact with skin causes flushes, slight dizziness and fever
>ingestion causes confusion, loss of balance and intoxication varying by concentration ingested
>high concentration ingested can cause an addiction sub-syndrome that lowers mental ability and can only be subdued by more cum
>extreme concentration causes transformation into a 'minotaur cow' which i was in the middle of making unique variations for each race but got bored in the middle

So far the only hard limitation I can find is that 'interactions' have very strict rules about application and lack a way of discerning a 'target' beyond very basic tags.
Which is to say, you can make it quite possible for any creature to be able to rape as long as they have a dick, but actually detecting if the target has a useable anus or vagina is complicated as fuck to handle.
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>>6656406
>I keep wondering why there are no true porn mods for it.

Goblin Tower and Obok Meatgod. Those are the reasons.
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>>6656353
Yeah. You gotta get really good at it and eventually you can either work the floor as an exotic dancer or work private booths.
Do the private booth enough times and people will solicit you for sex, do that enough times and you will get an offer to be an escort.
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>>6656412
Yes I realise bay 12 is full of pure celibate autists. But I am surprised nobody on /d/ has made the attempt.
I actively used to get off to the old Genesis mod, which only added genitals for the sake of realism. Simply to play an illithid, chop all an elf's limbs off then proceed to brutally tentacle rape her 'genitals' body part before eating her brain.
With some actual effort on the H part it could be glorious.
Hell, the game only just now has 'defining feature recognition' for unknown characters so you can see demons as 'huge breasted succubus' or 'fat cocked orc'.
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>>6656418
>or 'fat cocked orc'.
I haven't actually played the new version yet but does the define feature have to be visible to the adventurer or would it still show up hidden by clothing. 'Cause that could cause !!FUN!!.
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>>6656430
As it stands almost all the prominent features in the game are facial or otherwise inherently visible, so it probably isn't even considered.
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>>6655582
JTI is complete
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>>6656511
What is JTI?

Also JONT is basically complete.
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>>6656418
because people who play dwarf fortress and people who have any interest in sex are 2 groups that have very little crossover
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>>6656534
>imfuckingplying
Now if you had said 'people who know intimately understand the file structure of DF enough to make good mods' then I may be a little understanding.
I am a massive goddamn pervert and I love DF, played it since 40d shipped -but fuck me if it doesn't take hours of looking through the wiki to get anywhere with modding.
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>>6656517
Journey Through Izildia
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With the new update I started a new FC-save and thought of how I could play this time. I made up my mind and chose the future society that benefits your dairy when a wicked idea inspired me. I've never tried this goal before, so what I am suggesting to the hopefully lurking FCdev might actually be included, though I doubt it:
We've got Ethnic Supremacy as a goal, degredationism and even a future society that approves of milking people. So I thought it might be cool to have a unique combination with these three, or two of the mentioned future societies. One that regards slaves/certain races as hucows and animals. Some sort of "combined goals". I might just be retarded but I thought this'd be a cool idea.
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In FC, is there some way to decrease clit size?
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>>6656593
Female hormones, no exercise, no steroids. They shrink WAY faster than they grow.
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>>6656599
And how do you grow them?
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>>6656603
Male hormones, exercise, steroids, duh. There's no clit growth drug last I checked, which is BULLSHIT
FC DEV PLEASE FIX THIS OVERSIGHT IMMEDIATELY
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My FC amputee got caught for masturbating according to the End Of Week Screen. How did she manage?
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So how deep is FCdev going to make the character creator? Because I'm already thinking of a backstory for my MC from what we have so far
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>>6656636
Grinding on the bed corner
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>>6656637
I'd personally like a bit more detail in it, even down to giving your character parameters that can be modified to a lite-version of slaves (dick size for males, breast and butt size for females and so on, even able to spend your wealth on giving yourself implants)

But understandably he said on his blog that it's not a tf game and the focus isn't much on your own character. I'm already satisfied enough that you can now play as a female slave owner.
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>>6656637
>Rather than implementing full player character customization (which will never happen), this update allows the player character to choose, for example, a vagina or a penis.
>(which will never happen)

from the latest update post.
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>>6656642
I'd be fine with a hair color/description body type and sex stuff.
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Does addiction lower the value of my FC Slaves?
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>>6656187
>>6656347
>>6656391
>>6656414
Honestly, it's such a shame that Cursed seems to have devolved to "become a monstergirl simulator".

There is a nice template in place set up multiple routes for different careers (you'd just need to add a few more and expand on the variety of events in the existing ones, like the exotic dancer opening up to BDSM jobs for example) and the game keeps track of your sexual preferences (from exclusively lesbian to fully straight with bisexualism in between) and fetishes (different levels of BDSM, exhibitionism, racial preferences in sexual partners, etc).

Its main problems as it is are the monotony in the jobs/events and that you don't really a diverse cast of potential suitors to have as boy-/girlfriend (or even multiple of them?).

Hell, as discussed, with the current framework you could also make a trap game.

The only thing I'd get rid of is the magic (or keep them low-key) and monstergirl transformation (which really are at odds with the rest of the game's mechanics/setting)
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Apologies for being a leech here, but I remember seeing a thread here some months ago, with a screenshot with this girl and Asami from Ura Kyoushi in what looked like a fan VN of sorts.

Could someone provide the name, please?
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>>6656745
Newlife seems decent for going down that route. It's basically doing what Cursed is but removing all the monstergirl transformation and best of all, it's not using the same shitty engine.

Unfortunately it's just barebones at the moment and only has hetero stuff right now.
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>>6656745
I wish there was a game where you can transform a gender-bent delinquent into a submissive, cock-addicted cum receptacle.
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>>6656753
>Apologies for being a leech here, but I remember seeing a thread here some months ago, with a screenshot with this girl and Asami from Ura Kyoushi in what looked like a fan VN of sorts.
>Could someone provide the name, please?
Press Switch.

It's been on hiatus for 2 years now but it has 5 routes ocmpleted (+ a few half-completed).

Fans of it have started doing a spiritual successor called Studen Transfer but it doesn't use Bishop's art
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>>6656756
>Unfortunately it's just barebones at the moment and only has hetero stuff right now.
The dev is not going to include anything that isn't vanilla as hell.

Even the "treat me rough" part is incredibly hamfisted and it is clear he doesn't understand how BDSM works.
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>>6656769
What's with the dev's of these sort of games (Cursed, Newlife) being vanilla as hell and prudish?

I actually genuinly thought the "treat me rough" parts weren't properly implemented yet. I appreciate the sex mechanics somewhat but it is really vanilla. I mean it doesn't even have anal.
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>>6656773
Not sure about Cursed but apparently the Newlife dev is british and scared to death of the UK porn laws so he avoids anything that is explicitly forbidden (though technically, IIRC, female orgasms are banned in UK porn laws... yeah)
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>>6656591
I think the term you are searching for is "Caste System". Some people are superior arcology-owner-types, some people are noble warriors, more people are respectable tenant-renters, most other people are slaves... and a few 'people' are actually cows.

"Sacred" would be putting the matter a bit strongly, given Free Cities norms, but mistreating cows is still taboo, for the practical reason that a happy cow is a productive one.
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>>6656760
>but it doesn't use Bishop's art
Interest lost. I guess I'll check out Press Switch, regardless. I'm a huge sucker for BISHOP girls.
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Toward character customization and although I lurk/post elsewhere; regarding Free Cities, I'm still glad there isn't going to be anything past minimalist writing, makes it harder to totally fuck with the game both literally and direct manipulation of the game's mechanics.

My only regret is that I'm seemingly the only motherfucker actively trying to 'mod' the game and I can't even code well. The game is solid enough, the only times I fuck shit up is through human error, assuming FCDev doesn't break junk. Also, making my own AI rules so the slaves update themselves to all aspects gets a bit silly.

A few times I've found things that could've been done better but as I already have a massive list of shit I add to the game every new version+bugfix plus a lot of unfinished projects already, I try not to get too heavy in these things that I'll never personally use or do.

Reminder you can personally remove clit-shrinkage and automatic hormone effects. The downside is that you sacrifice the ability to bitch about the inclusion of frustrating hormone mechanics. I even went through the trouble of creating my own damn drugs to circumvent hormones for semen/milk and only use it for facial growth/mild growth. It took me several days to get them to work mostly bug-free.

Fuck I'd love to a legitimate trap game. Free Cities/Trap Quest get close to that particular itch for forced trappification without getting too heavy into pleb-tier sissies.

And on the rare chance someone is interested, I'm not gonna bother polishing/uploading until 1.0+bugfix is out, until then I'm just planning/playing around.
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>>6656781
>Interest lost.
Even if you were, it's still very early, it literally only has one finished route as of now.

Also, Bishop is just a god of ahegao and "mindfucked" art.

>>6656773
>What's with the dev's of these sort of games (Cursed, Newlife) being vanilla as hell and prudish?
Press Switch dev was actually pretty sadistic in his routes at times (switched with your mother) but sadly he just stopped updating.
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Does anyone have the patreon version of trap quest?
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>>6656773
As the other anon mentioned, everything but vanilla is sexcrime over in Britain (and a few of their colonies)
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>>6656788
>Fuck I'd love to a legitimate trap game. Free Cities/Trap Quest get close to that particular itch for forced trappification without getting too heavy into pleb-tier sissies.
Have you considered investing your time into making said trap game instead?

No offense but I think part of the reason nobody is modding FC is because of how fequent the updates are and how (for the most part) the mechanics already in place have little room for massive overhauls/expansions on what is already there (which means FC dev is a much more consistent dev than AAA studios like Bethesda where modders have to break their broken games)
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>>6656794
I love FC Dev as much as everyone else, but stop riding his dick for a second. FC Dev is making a game with a relatively small scale using Twine. BethSoft created their own engine from scratch and have made hundreds of miles of open world content where the only time bugs are found are when hundreds of millions of manhours are poured into them by the community. It seems disingenuous at best to even compare the two.
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>>6656794
Yeah, understandable. as stated, every version becomes a chore due to the one or two hours I spend inserting code and sometimes examining changes. There were things though I had to actually create before-hand to understand it's place within the game though, such as vore mechanics, which very easily became a matter of not just erasing a slave but trying to plan consequences and positives for it. It got silly after awhile, but it was fun.

And... it's feasible. digging through FC and seeing it's development while I don't ACTUALLY understand a lot of the junk happening, I can learn through imitation and heavy testing what does and doesn't work, the problem is I've only been adding too or just pushing FC's mechanics into my own fetishistic preferences. Time to start up another .txt document again...
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>>6656801
>such as vore mechanic

I've been toying with the idea myself actually for a game like this, though I hadn't the slightest idea where to even begin. How did you go about it?
But I have had the intention of modding it when the updates become much much less frequent so it's actually worth doing, even if it's just for personal use.
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>>6656798
> from scratch
not the guy you're replying to but it's based on a shitty outdated engine from the last century. creation was hacked together by idiots who didn't know the first thing about software architecture. get your brain checked you moran.
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>>6656805
>get your brain checked you moran.

Irony at its finest.

Why are people who worship FCDev so stupid?
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>>6656806
>hurr let me disregard the substance of your post and respond with more ad hominem durr
you really need to get yourself checked.
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>>6656802
Troublesomely, at first at least. As I didn't have the patience to go through the trouble on including forced vore and it would easily spiral into hell if I implemented a feed-bin area. You can only feed to devoted(or now only trusting?) predator slaves, and they have a hunger stat that goes down weekly, ideally, you would feed them slaves, get huge transformative boosts from comparisons of the slave assets to predator assets, reduction of age, health, all that junk, I even played with the relationship system to include a bit of incestuous descriptions during digestion summary. vore scene itself was shit though. Based on the form of vore, if hunger over-fills you would get a transformative bonus to that associated area, or just a health boost, or just sometimes nothing besides hunger being able to over-fill because I had nothing else to use. I even managed to tie slaves into a 'digesting' assignment and remove their costs from upkeep, but they would still count towards overall slaves until they are removed, assumably before the overall-slaves upkeep costs were calculated.

Initially, I had the idea of putting slaves into a feed bin where they would be assigned or unassigned to a predator, where unassigned predators eat automatically, but it's better to manually feed them in the sense of getting a short scene that would slightly change based on physical differences. So it was a choice of micro to macro management to me.

As I'm getting into this, I also created a slave soldier alternative where citizens would casually rape their protectors via descriptions in the arcology management screen until they reach more upgraded levels they are respected, or if the case failing to repel an invasion from being underpowered, beaten and hated instead. Although planning for each possible scenario proved to be a bit much as there was also degradation to worry about, so I gave up.
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I'm having a bit of trouble with Fleshcult. The game is great but I can't use it because the confirmation email won't reach either of the email addresses I have used, at any of the IPs I've used, on any of the browsers I've used, and on neither my phone nor my PC. It says it's sent but it doesn't show up in my spam filter or main inbox. Could I get a hand here?
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>>6656805
What, you think that FC Dev or yourself could do better? Then why haven't you?
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Will FC ever develop beyond "flash brother simulator" and go more indepth character RP and even "quests" ?

How about some more returning NPC characters, romances and other similar typical things.
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>>6656856
I'd say the charm lies without it but I'm not going to say it wouldn't benefit from it either, as always, the more depth you add to a character, the further you drag people away from individualization merely because you cannot possibly accomodate for all conceivable scenarios. Not unless you have a shitload of writers who do it for free at least.

Also Free Cities is only an intermittent game, his next one is the ambitious one containing all the extra shit.
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>>6656802
>>6656821

Just package "vore" into a more soft type of cannibalism and make it into a pleasure/torturing tool.

Various slaves (and MC) with serious derangements want to literally EAT other dead slaves and the effects depend on the purity and/or fitness and even nationality of the victim.

Then for the fetish parts, some freak slaves have mutations or major body surgery that allow them to fully consume other slaves in special circumstances. This freak-show unique type of slaves (which are togglable) can be expanded to other /d/fetishized stuff like expandable (room sized) breasts flesh, undead slaves, dwarfism, gigantism, goo-girls, etc etc etc all togglable.
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>>6656218
It's definitely tricky at the mo. I've seen people doing incredibly successful 8-9 month runs, but given it's still very much content incomplete it's a bit tricky to nail the balance at the mo.

Right as it was offered in a previous thread I'm looking for some pic finding assistance for No Haven. I could do with some suggestions for an upcoming race who will be used for a series of assignments providing some extra plot to the game and also of course be recruitable/enslavable. Basically I'm thinking bipedal merfolk/deep ones though obviously keeping it sexy rather that horrifying. The Merfolk from Magic:TG would be perfect in terms of look but there's next to none porny art for them out there and believe me I've looked. Are there any anime that I'm not thinking of that would be worth a look for art from pixiv and the booru's? I don't mind doing some editing to improve the look/have some variation.

Nothing too over the anthro line and asari and twi'leks are already spoken for.
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>>6656867
Freak slaves should be hard to manage without them escaping or dying or corrupting their neighborhood but have various ways of earning their keep, like selling snuff/vore/tentacle/gigantism-rape TAPES or "real experiences" to highest bidders.

Regular slavers would want to avoid buying them, but certain unique slavers would pay a fortune for a well trained undead or goo girl slave.
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>>6656849
are you using the same email address? get a 10 minute email address and try that.
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>>6656867
>>6656873
Yep, stuff I hadn't though of already, the problem is outside of some rep gain/loss I wanted vore to be a completely optional thing, even as far to remove the hunger drain and lowering hunger fulfillment benefits to only include major things, like the only way to do currently impossible things like turning surgical race into the real race, grow height past 'very tall' or add in a TrueAge value so the game can tell the difference between a slave with decreased age, and a slave with her actual age.

Then it would be a matter of sacrificing possibly rebellious slaves to increase the value of a devoted/trusted yet featureless slave until you reach the point you could cycle out old arcade slaves to feed her due to near irrelevance of high-quality meat.

The matter of control and containment of vore/giantess slaves though is another thing I haven't quite planned for yet, a muzzle is an obvious one, where an un-muzzled or un-discovered predator may 'inadvertantly' devour their clients to your chargrin.

Giants though, goodness what to do there, as-is, I sometimes just play with the mentality all my slaves are already taller than me and PC is just this short-ass trap.
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>>6656856
>returning NPC characters
Yes
>romances
No. See what happened to CoC. It'll just become a waifu simulator.
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>>6656856
What? It's a management game, not an RPG. Do you also think that Cities Skylines would be better with quests and returning NPCs?
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>>6656789
>Also, Bishop is just a god of ahegao and "mindfucked" art.
Absolutely amen. Always glad to find other BISHOP fans.
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>hair color is slowly being phased out of trapquest

Oddly enough it was one of the only reasons I got off to the game in the first place. The pictures of all the girls with different colored hair appealed to me a lot more than I knew.

But then the forest level was added and no new hair changing mechanics were present. Then the class specific hair color changes were removed. Then this hotel level is added and still there are no mechanics to change hair color. Then this sprinkler change where they will affect hair length instead of color half the time

I think the game is down to 3 ways for hair color to change:
1. the sprinkler trap, in all it's reduced effectiveness
2. pink smoke, which also doesn't do too much to hair color
3. being pissed on, which I never have enabled

sorry for the rant but it's a damn shame
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>>6656986

I was just throwing out random "RPG" cliches.

Yes, I think the game can be improved by a handful of typical RP things, looks like the game dev does too.

The "typical RP shit" is already there character creation, customization, longer devotion and more reasons to keep slaves around instead of just blindly flow-chart selling them, random "events" are already in too.

All that's missing is recurring named NPC's, a splash of linking event chains. Some more world "persistence" and consistency for fluff.
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So what is the most common fetish represented in /d/ games? Transformation, specifically gender swapping?
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Apparently Beat Blades Haruka is coming out soon in English.
Anybody familiar with the original game? The stuff on the site seems pretty cool.
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>can't makes slaves penetrate you as a female in FC
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>>6657050

I'll play it. Pretty sure I've seen the CGs before, it was probably alright. A decent narrative can do wonders for a good image set though.
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>>6657101
>A decent narrative can do wonders for a good image set though.
Yeah, and this being totally uncensored and voiced is another plus.

...which is pretty amazing, considering what fetishes are featured. This is apparently a list translator made for one of the three heroines.
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>>6657030
I honestly don't understand. Do you only feel this way about management games, or do you think that all genres should also be an RPG?
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>>6657115
Sold.
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>>6657131
I'm just saying it's already in the game, and it's a part of the genre so let's build on it !

If you need any references just look at the Jack-o-nine-tails, or even Slave Maker 3(?)
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>>6656637
>>6656642
>>6656648
Just imagine your character? If nothing is specified in their description you can look any way you want.
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Does a slave rebounding/drawing back reduce the stat increase or does it just let you know you've hit the cap?
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>>6657316
Just hitting the cap, I'm pretty sure.
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>>6657351
Thank goodness, micromanaging 15+ slaves to be just under cap was driving me nuts.
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>>6656710
Yes.
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>If you are playing this game for fun, I strongly recommend waiting for 0.6.1 or 0.6.2
Is this true, or just standard pessimism?
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>>6657573
Current build is buggy as fuck man. If you can handle that and want to report them feel free to use it.
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>>6656871
Heya BedlamGames! I tried NoHaven and it's pretty neat! The game seems to get corrupted relatively easily though (At about 15 agents acting at a time, strings/errors start popping up)

Definitely wish there were more games like No Haven out there! I like a lot of the lore-crossover that there was involved between different fantasy settings. (Dranei+Dark Elves+Naga and others? WINNING!)
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Does one handed mode disable future societies? Because I'm on week 50 and honored and still haven't unlocked it.
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Can't get Slugs and Bugs to run. Says I need a program. What do I need?
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>>6657730
>Says I need a program
Is that the exact error message that it shows you?
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>>6657738

It's asks me to choose a program to open it with.
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>>6657747
I assume that you're running Windows? It's just a .html file, use Firefox. Or whatever your main browser is.
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>>6657750

Fuck, I don't want to play it through browser. Why even download it then?
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>>6657752
you can't be this stupid
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>>6657752
What? It's a .html file, how else did you expect to execute it? It's literally just a webpage that you saved.
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>>6657752
Weird that it's asking to launch it with a program...

But, to answer your question, hosting a web page is a little complicated. You can't just host it on Blogspot, Blogspot just holds formatted text. You have to get a proper host, and that raises all sorts of issues when you're trying to stay anonymous for a freaky hobby project.
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>>6657014
Iktf I also really like the hair color mechanics, you can still savescum if you are patient enough to roll the colors you want in the pink smoke/ sprinkler trap.
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>>6657816
Based on the way he was posting I'm assuming that he doesn't understand technology whatsoever. He doesn't know what html is, he doesn't have a default browser (because otherwise it would just open the web page in the default web browser).
I assume that he thought "play through your browser" meant "connect to this remote server to play."
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This will end poorly, sandbox overworld type of game.

Gameplay will involve randomly generated faction leaders which are women, (feminine) traps, or futanari, and have themes such as Victorian/Bimbo/Maid/etc. They will have either dom/sub but perhaps more since it's mostly just bonuses at this point.

Other factions will be general population, police, and hopefully leave room for more down the road.

Between the three, they'll have strict rules and end-goals

Women will seek to convert or whore to all women; whore themselves to men; and capture/convert all traps to inanimate dildos, They will aim to set the regional preference to pussy
Traps will seek to convert or whore to all men; whore themselves to futanari; and capture/convert all women to lingerie, They will aim to set the regional preference to anal
Futanari will seek to convert or whore to all women;capture all traps; and convert all men to traps, They will aim to set the regional preference to dicks, anal, pussy

Police will seek to capture all three whore factions and place them in milking facilities, particularly aggressively against futanari, as milk/semen are worth the same.

Other factors in the general population is deviance, intellectualism, and instability.

High Deviance determines the success of whoring, success rate of capture, and decreases change rate of regional preference
High intellectualism increases difficulty of hypnosis, can inversely cause whores to be hypnotized/kidnapped by the population and increases the value of whores
High Instability is directly a very dangerous zone, whores will be dragged into walls as impromptu gloryholes the more of these the lower the whore value, spontaneous sex dollification of whores which will decrease their associated preferences as population grabs them, and spontaneous mini-giantesses will appear to devour whores whole at a steady rate but I'm thinking this might be a capturable entity.
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Is there a game where you play as a slave?
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I'm curious. What are your top fetishes?
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>>6657898
Damsel in distress.
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>>6657902

Mind control, bad ends, ryona, beast, and rape. You know, the usual.
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>>6657902
Size stuff (Giantess, shrinking) and vore.
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>>6657902
Absolutely and without a doubt humiliation.
I can enjoy countless other fetishes I naturally don't like, if the scene also includes some element of humiliation. Humiliation is what makes me enjoy all other fetishes I like. Slavery, bimbofication, watersports, diapers, egg-laying, pet-play and there's certainly more that I am currently not thinking of.
It's absolutely no wonder Trap Quest is my favorite h-game.
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>>6657895
>Make a setting where X only wants to fuck Y
No man, that's stupid.
I want to fuck everything.
That's why I'm on /d/
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>>6657902
Honestly, Demonic Transformation and Impregnation.
Its why I enjoyed Fleshcult so much and wish it was still in production.

Were I ever to make a /d/game it would be a game where you are forced to start out as a super weedy [Gender here] and over the course of the game transform yourself into a demon with the end goal of fucking all the bitches.
Would probably also have elements of forced TF on others and mind control.
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>>6657902
Amputees, specifically quadruple amputees. Helpless, small, and always right where you left them and ready to use when you feel in the mood for a fuck.
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>>6657902
Traps
Exhibitionism
Urination
Kemonomimi
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>>6657902

All bizarre japanese guro.

"realistically depicted" acid-jizz inside a animu girls womb with X-ray cross sections.

Extreme dehydration death skin of animu girls.

Breast skinning cross sections where they show even the fat cells being pulled apart by infinitely sharp animu wires and skin being pulled apart to reveal the breast tissue underneath.

Muscle explosions.

Scat, scat explosions, intentional hemorrhoid swelling and pricking fistulas with needles so they become infected and filled with pus. Depictions of what happens with animu girls once they die with a lot of shit in them. Animu girls dying of holding their shit for weeks and doctors pulling all the rock hard shit out of them afterwards.

Unrealistically strong huge male idiot savant getting a hold of loli animu girls and beating them into a pulp with visuals of the whole event and thought process of the unknowable, non-understandable autistic mind and imagery. Bonus points if the "big idiot" ruins his hands and/or arms/head by the sheer force of blunt impact trauma of hitting hard bone and concrete/metal by accident as he's saving the lolis one by one.

Bone dust.

Abstract torture porn where "real" animu characters are transported, teleported or otherwise "randomly" finding themselves in abstract hell universes where they are being torn apart in a chaotic matter on an atom level, or being raped or maimed throughout time past and future until there is nothing left.
General horrific unintentional slow "atom by atom" disappearing and diffuseness.

Extreme forcefully hard girth phallus forcing itself into a young tight animu pussy with realistic description and visuals of blood, pain, misery, shock and unconsciousness. Xray of said events.

Extreme dehydration with suffering. Then more extreme dehydration where death is implied to have happened long ago. Naked animu girl of course.

Glass eating with "hours later" follow up.
Unaware intestine damage. Stomache lining holes.
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>>6657895
Sounds like just another modification of the Gynoid Conversion game or whatever the original was.
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>>6657902
I am pretty well /d/ incarnate. Everything that's acceptable here and a few things that aren't. ( I like gurochan's freakshow board but not the others). Diapers and transformation are usually too mundane and non-sexual for me to get off though.
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>>6657902
parasite/insect/tentacles, pregnancy/eggs, trap/shemale/futa, corruption
and a lot of other stuff
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>>6657952
Jesus Christ you're absolutely horrendously disgusting.

...Could you recommend any doujins for the scat explosions, torture porn and acid jizz?
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>>6657952

I feel like googling every line.
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>>6657895
>restricting people to wanting to fuck certain things

I'd like to play as a woman who fucks subby and dommy traps.

Restricting like that in a game is dumb. And as another anon put it, we'd like to fuck anything and everything.
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>>6657902
>What are your top fetishes?
Pretty much most of the /d/ fetishes sans futa.

A lot of subfetishes related to BDSM (and BDSM itself) that weirdly interact with cosplay like latex clothing, chastity belts, straitjackets, extreme high heels, "ponygirl" outfits, etc all of which can be considered fetishes on their own right (and often have their own thread).
On top of that, using cosplay or said outfits to get someone into a role they maybe weren't expecting.

The latter often overlaps with the other overlapping fetish which is roughly speaking "gender bender" in the "expanded" definition that some worksafe sites use to unite magical/sci-fi TG and just plain traps/crossdressing under one overarching "tag".
While they are distinct fetishes, they are still reasonably related and have very distinct different authors approaching, from extremely violent "sissy" fiction and "becoming addicted to cock" to idolized despictions of traps as being better women than actual women (as well a guys turned girls living happily ever after as paragons womanly virtue).
Weirdly, I tend to really dislike the sissy fiction and prefer the "perfect trap" stories for crossdressing while for TG I have no particular preference between the two extremes or anything in between.
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>>6657950
quadamps give rise to paternal instincts for me.

I mean, I just want to hug them and help them out.
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>>6658232
Mah nigga.
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>>6657902
Contracts with clearly delineated terms
Girls voluntarilly signing contracts with clearly delineated terms without being tricked into it.
Regretting it but not being able to back out.
The contract being fulfilled to the t, without the girl's owner going beyond the terms mutually agreed upon.
Ideally duration of indenture and specific terms of use agreed upon and fulfilled exactly.
ID tags worn by hooded girls
Data forms with properly organized information about a girl.
public use with taly marks (no bullshit, proper count)
Sex machines with blueprints/infographics depicting how they work.

I mostly just have a datasheet and contracts fetish.
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>>6658239
Now that's the stuff I'd like to see in a game. Sounds hot.
Can there be a secretary that properly files all the data and stores it for at least 10 years in a secure basement? I love good record keeping and a proper archive.
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>>6658266
You play as the secretary. All you can do is read reports and update records.
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>>6658266
>>6658288
Guys pls. I wasn't joking and you're making me aroused.
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>>6657936
>>6658090
Fuck, I was hoping it bugged out again and it didn't actually send.

Either way, shit. Yeah, alright, throwing out most of the plans regarding restrictions/training then.
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>>6658288
And properly file and archive them, I hope.
But yeah, I'd play that game. I'd only last about 3 minutes a session, but that way I could play this game a lot more often until I finish it.
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>>6657902
Traps and trap accessories
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>>6658337
Traps trapped in a trap while trapped on a trapeze?
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>>6658292
>Contractor: 201520736
>Name: Anna Sloan
>Age: 23
>Date of Birth: 18 APR 1991
>Contract Type: See Standard Terms F.A3.16
>Contract expires: 01 APR 2016
>Maximum total daily penetrative time: 6 hours
>Maximum Vaginal daily penetrative time: 4 hours
>Contraception: Combined oral contraceptive

>Activity Log
>Subject: 201520736
>Date: 03 JAN 2016
>06:16 Contractor wakes up
>07:00 Begin vaginal penetration in missionary position. Contractor is compliant within terms.
>07:21 End prior intercourse, begin vaginal penetration in rear entry position.
>07:26 Contractor receives ejaculate

Etcetera?
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>>6658367
Logs don't really do it for me, and I'd much rather terms of use (say vaginal: yes, oral:yes, anal: N/A) plus duration of indenture (6 months? a week? a year? Doesn't matter), but yes, that's the gist of it.
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>>6658367
>not stated how much ejaculate and where received
>file does not state what is okay besides how long she can be penetrated
>keeping proper records
It's easy to see that's not your fetish. Your records are pretty sloppy.
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>>6658377
Let's see your records then, faggot.
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>>6658377
And it should be "Sloan, Anna", not "Anna Sloan" on any proper file, unless you keep first and last name on separate lines.
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>>6658383
>>6658377
>>6658367
>>6658328
>>6658266
>>6658239
A-are you guys serious? Like, do you actually get turned on by this, or what is going on?
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>>6658239
>>6658266
>>6658288
>>6658292
>>6658367
You might be half joking but I actually really enjoy an artist that does this semi-consistently in his doujins, "Mayonnaise" (though he does ocassionally feature characters who are not doing it willingly in his more recent work).

Stuff like prostitution becoming a burocratic job you can sign up (as a public servant or at a company) with a clear schedule, side jobs when not doing sexual activities (secretaries/coworkers with benefits), etc. with the perk being a very early retirement age with full pension (after about two decades of service in the workforce).

It's basically the burocratization/institutionalization of fetishes that seems to be what >>6658239 is referring in his post as his personal (sub)fetish

Similarly, in a more sci-fi/fantasy setting (FC partially already does this) it can be that contracts are just much more like laws unto themselves rather than there being an overriding legislature, so if a contract specifies you are going to be working as a cheesecake/BDSM entertainer (not even necessarily having sex) on an interstellar cruiseship because you weren't paying attention and thought you'd be the main star of the sheakespearean theater group instead you don't get to just force the entire ship to go back to port or stay on the ship not doing the job you were hired to do.

Depending on how you set up the sci-fi world the contract having a clause to sell you as a slave at the next slaver planet the cruiser docks at.
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>>6658402
Yes, anon. I get turned on by this. No one takes me seriously when I say that I do, but in fact I do.

My overspecific fetish is institutionalized slavery with detailed contracts and non-corrupted officials enforcing them exactly as they are signed.
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>>6658404
Mayonnaise is hnnng. Probably the best institutionalized slavery mangaka.

I also like Hakaba and gogocherry, but really mayonnaise is one of a kind. First, he does semi consensual slavery, secondly, the bureaucratization as you say. Thirdly, the masterful way he jumps between the adorable, the mundane and the grim and sad.
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>>6658404
>>6658405
>>6658408
I like you guys.
Now I am just as much into prostitution and public use as the next guy, and mayonnaise is okay (not great, but okay), but those fetishes are just humorously specific and sufficiently weird to poke fun at.
You got nothing on the tile fetishist though.
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>>6658408
>slavery
Is it though?

For the newer stories I'd agree but most of the stuff he has done even back in the day was more like institutionalized, widely accepted and burocratized prostitution (to the point one of his stories has what amounts to a tinder app but that signals that an available prostitute is around), with the state setting the limits (and in some stories only allowing it once you get a license for especially hardcore stuff).

Even the stories where he does "slavery" it seems more like draconian laws leaving "prisoners" in the wild to be sexually abused but even so there is a clear limit to when the sentence ends and it is heavily implied the girls in those stories broke (a probably incrediblly unjust) law and are just viewed as criminals serving sentence ("community service" so to speak) rather than slaves.

I'll be the first to admit, though, that the difference at that point becomes very thin but it's still there
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>>6658421
>but those fetishes are just humorously specific and sufficiently weird to poke fun at.
Honestly, I think they make for a great framework to set a game around if you were to do it from the sub's perspective without taking away the sub's agency.

Climbing up the sexual career or having signed up for a job position for which you should have looked at the fine print but which isn't as bad as "you are now a slave, enjoy your stay" (with that being the alternative if you actually do decide to sabotage your employer) can actually offer a challenging gameplay experience while having you in the sub position (at least at the start, maybe you can promote your way out of it/blackmail your boss enough to get a promotion).

There is a certain appeal to someone entering into such a situation completely out of the left field and yet still finding a way to thrive in such an environment they had never even considered an option before in their life.
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>>6658436
Didn't say it wasn't stuff to get off to. There is sex in there, so most people should be able to get off to it.
The weird part is what actually appeals to you there. It's an oddly specific fetish.
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>>6658421
It doesn't have to be public use/prostitution though, you can have a similar setup for a trap game/crossdressing game where the guy is just very androgynous and gets hired as a model (or something similar in the fashion/entertainment industry) and once he has gotten the job (and the first awkward time showing up and realizing the misunderstanding) still does such a good job and it pays so well that he kinda feels it necessary to continue doing it, at least until a better opportunity shows up while he uses the current one to get experience in general in the industry (with only the boss and a close circle of people being in on the secret).

It's not so much a fetish by itself as a scenario in which to set up such a story/throw your character in.
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>>6658443
You'd be surprised with fetishes how much of it is just working on a meta-level rather than just "two people having sex" level.

BDSM and its subfetishes is just one example, with people getting off to people... well, being immobilized and frustrated in the case of bondage, petplay, straitjackets, etc even when no sexual intercourse is taking place (regardless on if you put a vibrator/dildo in or not).

We just normally don't take a look at it/think about it.

I mean, what do you think a people who faps to this picture for example is actually fapping to?
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>>6658450
If I were to fap to this picture, it would be because of the way the rope is biting into her panties which of course are just plain white. Innocence at it's best.

She better be careful though, that wallhook doesn't look too reinforced.
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>>6658446
I do see how it could be something else.
The prostitution and public use stuff was just to say I do understand part of its appeal as a setting, since we were pretty much talking about this being a setting for fetishes like that.

If it's not a fetish but just a setting for you, it's kinda missing the point of the question the first mention of this was a reply to.

>>6658450
Well, there is enough in there to be considered a sexual image.
If you want to talk about images not clearly sexual catering to fetishes, I think there is better examples.
I am into plenty of stuff myself to understand how that works too.
I don't doubt there is people simply getting off to straitjackets, but for most it's more about the submission. So unless it gives off at least a bit of a submissive vibe, this won't do anything for them.

I still uphold my claim that this fetish is oddly specific and that the weird part, the reason why people don't believe you, is actually the part of it you are saying to get off to, not that such a setting appeals to you. But if it'd be just the sex in it that's appealing, your setting wouldn't need to be so specific.
I do see the appeal in the setting, but just as a setting, not as a fetish.
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>>6658455
>If I were to fap to this picture, it would be because of the way the rope is biting into her panties which of course are just plain white. Innocence at it's best.
We are kindred souls, anon. The only way it could be more innocent is if it had a teddy bear on it.
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>>6658460
A teddy bear or little flowers polka-dotted all over the place.
Those kinds of panties are the best, bikini and all the others are nice and all, but sometimes I just like the innocence that comes with this sort of stuff.
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>>6658460
>>6658462
You are getting off-topic.
It's not erotic in any way if she didn't sing a contract with very specific terms first and thus doesn't belong on a porn board.
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>>6657902

gigatits
lactation
pregnancy
1 man bukkake squad
Quad amputees are about the only fetish I've really gotten from /d/.

>most vanilla guy on /d/
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>>6658462
I've always liked the idea of an impoverished and desperate noble selling his innocent, naive and sheltered daughter to a higher lord in return for wealth and further titles to make the House great again. She'd be sent off clueless as to what is going on with nothing but the clothes on her back, her modest and white underwear and maybe even her favourite teddy she kept from childhood.

I've always liked the idea of nobility being pure. Girls who live very enclosed lives and are clueless and naive to how cruel the world can get compared to peasants. Soft in both body and spirit.

>>6658469
And I guess there can be a contract thrown in there too detailing the terms of her being sold off.
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>>6658469
I'm all for masturbating to bureaucracy, but I feel like things can also be erotic without it.
>>6658476
>most vanilla guy on /d/
Nah, I mostly just fap to corruption (and occasionally lolidom). I think that's more vanilla than you.
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>>6658459
>but for most it's more about the submission.
There we go.

That is the crux of it.

It's not the contract itself, the contract serves as a "straitjacket" so to speak, contraining the options of the person in question.

By the way, I am not >>6658239 or >>6658367 but I can see what the appeal is and this mostly me trying to explain what I see as the "fetish" in that scenario, you can use bondage, crossdressing, exhibitionism (suehirogari's cage and tag [with a hypnosis "contract"] being excellent examples) as themes/leitmotif but ultimately the "fetish" happening is an agreement between that person go through that situation with a vague understanding of where said agreement/contract can lead them.

Meta-fetish? Yes.
Unusual? No, it's just that most people just find it easier to identify the overarching fetishes on display than tagging doujins/stories/games by "leitmotif" as you'd do in a boring literature class (and I mean, I don't know about you but we didn't get hentai analysis assignments at my university).
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>>6658469
>t's not erotic in any way if she didn't sing a contract with very specific terms first and thus doesn't belong on a porn board.
I mostly meant the self-bondage going on (which you'd think is kinda weird as a fetish given there is nobody to take advantadge of the fact she's tied up, unless you identify as her enjoy the feeling of being tied up for some reason) but hey, to each their own, maybe someone can photoshop a contract in for your pleasure.
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>>6658478
Somewhat related: I always wanted a mod for Medieval II Total War that added "Give me your daughter" as a peace term if you were winning a war.
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>>6658493
I think there's a mod for CK2 that lets you do something like that. I know that it's entirely possible in vanilla if you raid a castle, you can kidnap wives and daughters. I liked to do it as Norse and culturally indoctrinate noble girls then make them my concubine and later send them back.
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>>6658478
She needs to sign the contract herself though and sell herself off for a period of time specified in the contract, which also includes any and all actions that her owner is allowed to demand and she has to perform.

>>6658480
I am a law student. I would love to have your fetish, but it might be troublesome for me. That's also the reason why I will never understand how you can be into that.
I am a bit let down you don't require a contract for something to be erotic though.

>>6658483
He specifically said he gets off to the bureaucracy itself, like records of those contracts.
That's more akin to a BDSM fetishist getting off to the description of a straitjacket.
It's definitely highly unusual. You are only thinking of this of a scenario, but that wouldn't make it a fetish.
I don't get any analysis assignments at my university unless it's analysing legal proceedings or such.

>>6658492
I'd appreciate it.
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>>6658421
what about uthah-chan?
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>>6658500
>He specifically said he gets off to the bureaucracy itself, like records of those contracts.
I assumed he was exagerating/meaning the fact it is institutionalized the way it is in Mayonnaise (which I put as an example) and the implicit situation that gets set up in that way.

If it is the contract itself, rather than the concept (the same way that you compared the straitjacket itself vs the associated situation we picture of the person wearing one) then yeah, I agree with you that it crosses the boundary of meta-level fetish/weird-to-describe fetish to something that is a paraphilia and pretty weird even by /d/ standards.
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>>6657952
thought anons like you didnt exist anymore
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>>6658512
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>>6658376
Seems to be pretty straight to the point to me.
The other anon is apparently in it just for the setting, which I totally understand. I'd fap to that setting, but not because I read what's on file about a contract.

>>6658511
Can't really recall that. Care to refresh my memory?
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>>6657902
urethral insertion on women
parasites, not mindcontrolling ones, but ones that simply use humans as reproduction facilities
transformation
insects
oviposition

also female vaginal secretions. which doesnt belong to /d/
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>>6658500
>I am a law student. I would love to have your fetish, but it might be troublesome for me.
The corruption or the lolidom? And how would having either fetish be troublesome?
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>>6658552
Corruption
Because then I'd get off to pretty much everyone in lectures and my future profession.
But I was actually more referring to
>I'm all for masturbating to bureaucracy
Would be great, but probably a gift from hell at the same time for someone in my field.
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>>6657902
If we're talking /d/-related
>farts
>body odor really
>omorashi
>giantess
>vore
>BBW/Chub
>gyaru (just bitchy/whorish/delinquent girls)
>monster girls
>scat
>Most of what >>6657952 said
>pantsu
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>>6658574
Anon...I...
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>>6658578
What is it Anon?
I-I don't wanna make too many off-topic posts.
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>>6657902
Follow-up question: What fetish of yours do you think is the most fucked up? I'm not talking about what you think normalfags would think is fucked up; what do you personally feel bad about finding arousing?
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>>6658616
Honestly, probably scat or vore.
I've read a couple of stories that've given me the willies after I've finished fapping and it feels so wrong.
Sometimes guro when I can get my hands on it. I feel terrible after seeing such a happy girl or whatever torn to shreds just to provide me a few minutes of wayward sexual pleasure.
Of course that kind of sexual deviancy pushes me to find more and more fucked up guro doujins.

Basically whenever I finish fapping I feel so bad and guilty about what I've done, but that quickly goes away after I find something else to do. If anything I think that's the worst feeling, the regret after fapping.
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>>6658601
This thread has already gone off-topic enough anon-kun, though it always has been off-topic most the time.

Also our fetishes are one and the same!
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>>6658627
Here's one of my favorite vore pieces. I'm glad someone here has the same interests as I do.
What else do you like?
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>>6658616
Feet
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>>6658667
...Why?
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>>6658672
Why wouldn't you be ashamed of this?
It's too vanilla to be arousing.
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>>6658672
I just realized I read the question wrong. I thought it was "what fetish do you think it's the most fucked up". Not mine specifically.
I'm not a footfag. I despise them more than furries.
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>>6658653
It's mainly Size stuff and Vore, so everything else sort of mixes in with them. For example being shrunk by a qt chubby girl with a soft plush tummy. For example she lifts her shirt up and places your tiny form on top of it while she lazes on her couch, watching TV while gorging on snacks. You can feel the vibrations underneath you and the low rumbling sound of her stomach doing what it does best. It's like your just an observer, watching each piece of food disappear past her lips and down her throat, inevitably ending up somewhere beneath you through the layers of tummy fat. Then she picks you up, brings you to her face and burps right over you, with bits of sticky, smelly saliva clinging to your body. Later when her body has worked over it enough she just shoves you down the back of her panties inside her butt that would make a lovely pillow under different circumstances, and breaks wind.

It's the ultimate form of domination. Oh and also worship and mindbreak I like.
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>>6658693
>worship
>mindbreak

I like those two and when they're combined it's godlike
>shoves you down the back of her panties inside her butt
>and breaks wind

Hnng
You know which buttons to press Anon.
Do you have any doujins to recommend?
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>>6658616

Mind break/control and gore. Basically abusing and harming women physically and mentally.
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>>6658708
I'd guess you'd already seen this but just in case:
http://exhentai.org/g/842174/afba7763fa/
That's the English translated first and best part.

The rest is here:
http://exhentai.org/g/884762/c5763ca0a3/

That's probably another big part of the fetish, when a prim and proper girl in-veritably ends up in a situation where she.....well, like in that doujinshi.

Also while not size related I do like Shiina Nami. Nobody draws butts and what they do better than that artist. Literally every doujin by that dude is 10/10, with some faves being:
http://exhentai.org/g/778753/55573e96e9/
http://exhentai.org/g/883582/d654908846/
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>>6658427
I'd say it is, yes. I mean in prostitution, a degree of consent is ongoing. If the whore decided she had enough, you can't legally force her to continue having sex with you. She may at most have to refund you. With Mayonnaise, even his "mild" stuff, that's not the case. You sign in, you can't opt out. Consent is present only at the time of signing in. Now, he generally depicts his characters as not really wanting to stop throughout the stories, but if they did, they couldn't stop what's happening to them, and this is an intrinsic part of his setting.
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>>6658427
>has what amounts to a tinder app but that signals that an available prostitute is around

It's the second time someone mentions this, and the second time I'm asking. What would that story be? I don't remember reading it
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>>6658427
Actually, some directions towards this one
>Even the stories where he does "slavery" it seems more like draconian laws leaving "prisoners" in the wild to be sexually abused but even so there is a clear limit to when the sentence ends and it is heavily implied the girls in those stories broke (a probably incrediblly unjust) law and are just viewed as criminals serving sentence ("community service" so to speak) rather than slaves.

would be nice, too. It's always nice to develop one's knowledge of mayonnaise.
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>>6658616
Ryona plus that thing where you hurt a girl and then console her/ reassure her it's going to be alright, but really it's not? That thing.
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>>6656745
apparently swimming makes breasts bigger? whud
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>>6658856
It makes you taller too.
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I know this might be a bit of an odd/crazy idea for FC but I thought I might aswell share it, especially now that there is a female mistress option (or trap "mistress" option even).

I was thinking about the disadvantadge being a female mistress apparently provides and was thinking "well, why not have the mistress also be a slave"?

Before people start throwing accusations of wanting to force sub content on FC dev, no, please wait what I mean by this.

Just like there is Roman/Egyptian revivalism and all of those societal goals, what if making a "slave(r)s' union/guild" becomes an official goal you can persue, with the idea being that only woman (and "women") are fit to be both slaves and slavers?
Effectively, your gameplay as a mistress wouldn't change and it would provide you a legalistic/politcal attack vector to get rid of male competitors (who are the majority of arcology owners) by forcing them to either submit to being part of their harem (and feminized) or bailing out of the industry.

Sure, at some point you would have to officially give up your free woman status but by that time you'd have set up the legal framework so that de-facto only "slaves" part of the union/guild could own other slaves.
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>>6658742
>It's the second time someone mentions this, and the second time I'm asking. What would that story be? I don't remember reading it
Slave System Chronicle. Chapter 4 to be exact, by which time the story has simplified becoming one to signing up via e-mail/app

>>6658744
>would be nice, too. It's always nice to develop one's knowledge of mayonnaise.
Benkigai, though be advised, that one is one his more hardcore stories.

>>6658734
>I'd say it is, yes. I mean in prostitution, a degree of consent is ongoing. If the whore decided she had enough, you can't legally force her to continue having sex with you. She may at most have to refund you. With Mayonnaise, even his "mild" stuff, that's not the case. You sign in, you can't opt out. Consent is present only at the time of signing in. Now, he generally depicts his characters as not really wanting to stop throughout the stories, but if they did, they couldn't stop what's happening to them, and this is an intrinsic part of his setting.
This is why I say it's hard to draw the line with him. Given they are aware and are given full state protection/aftercare while not "on the clock" and there seem to be implied limits to what is allowed to be done to them.

On the other hand, they get used pretty much like objects and their complaints get ignored while on the clock, which is kinda the definition of slave.

It's really semantics, given how Mayonnaise really just dances the line between the two, we are talking about the same thing anyways
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>>6658877
What if "Free Cities" was actually "Slave Cities" and every resident was a slave to the supreme ruler of the city?
But to make the City function better, some slave get promoted to higher ranks and become self serving slaves, tasked with running things like Training new slaves.
The reputation is actually your slave standing and gives you access to new "rights" and services.
Eventually you can reach the highest ranks of slaves in the city, where you become a "Personal" slave of the City Ruler. You can either serve him faithfully or attempt to overthrow him and become the new Ruler yourself.
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Anyone got a link for pic related? I heard that they released a new Patreon only demo and want to try it out
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>>6658894
Huh, I don't remember any prisoners doing community service in benkigai. Only girls in a school competing in typical mayonnaise fashion
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Free Cities 0.6.1 up at freecitiesblog.blogspot.com, "As Seen on TV." Run an ad campaign for your brothel to take control of the variety bonus system and make it known for stacked, unpierced, all-natural MILFs - or any combination of 3 options for each of 5 categories. Expanded voice stat with four states; use hormones and surgery to customize slaves' voices. The Promenade has been reconfigured into a nightclub; you can run ads for it, too. Sell many more event slaves immediately, or keep them: many events unlock special induction options, and all inductees now experience trust and devotion effects from whether they're initially attracted to you, how the rest of your slaves seem to feel about you, and more. Most femPC bugs should be fixed.
>pic: story structure in Twine

>>6658877
>what if making a "slave(r)s' union/guild" becomes an official goal you can persue, with the idea being that only woman (and "women") are fit to be both slaves and slavers?
This is an extremely interesting idea I hadn't thought of. Unfortunately, it would change enough of the gameplay that I can't see making it work from a coding standpoint. Good mod idea if someone's up for it.
Also, good pic.
>Middle Eastern arcology + Paternalism + Slimness Enthusiasm + Gender Radicalism

>>6658906
>What if "Free Cities" was actually "Slave Cities" and every resident was a slave to the supreme ruler of the city?
Exact same problem as >>6658877. Good idea that requires massive coding effort. Thought of this one a long time ago, discarded it as impractical. Too many things assume free citizenry.

>>6657902
>I'm curious. What are your top fetishes?
In no particular order, slavery, realistic transformation, forced transformation, MILFs (non-incest or -cuckolding), plush bodies (non-hamplanet), tits, and as >>6658239 says, bureaucracy. Not a huge fan of /d/ickgirl content as such, but I've discovered by adding it to FC that I can get a kick out of it from a forced transformation perspective.
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>>6658940
>Still no ability to actually name your brothel
>still no fuckdoll production for personal use
>still no abuse option for fucktoys

If it was physically possible for me to get mad at you, I would.
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So I have a couple plans for games. They would pretty much only involve a male subby protagonist and shemales. Is there an audience for that? I know how to code and i mostly just want to practice drawing, so might as well try to make some kind of interactive game instead of throwing out all the drawings.
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>>6658940
>still can't be penetrated in your vagina by a slave with a dick
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>>6658940
Would it be possible to make the advanced surgery able to unmute slaves?
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>>6658940
>This is an extremely interesting idea I hadn't thought of. Unfortunately, it would change enough of the gameplay that I can't see making it work from a coding standpoint. Good mod idea if someone's up for it.
Duly noted. Still, thanks.

Yeah, hopefully somebody picks it up as a mod or separate game idea.

>good pic
Got more where that came from. I am a sucker for 1001 type outfits

>>6658906
I like the way you think and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
With that said, your expansion seems more like something that would be suited in a "sub game" where you lead the slaves' union by example.
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