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The first two can work if the character is supposed to look obnoxiously colorful, but you need a very grounded cast to contrast it.

While the artist lacks the skill to understand things like proportionality and consistency, the basic design of this werewolf CAN work.

Too bad every other design she makes is shit and she doesn't even use the damn werewolf.
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>>82796232
She should've cashed in with Jiji instead but she got hung up over her not being a porn OC any more.
That said, I'd still hit it.
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>>82796338
I won't deny that most people would read for the fapbait, but werewolf-chan could easily support her own comic...and would honestly be a huge improvement over the comic she currently puts out.

You've got a character that's at least mildly aesthetically pleasing as the protagonist and werewolves and college life is a good juxtaposition that allows for fun, creative scenarios. The story would end up actually being focused if it only had a single, central protagonist and even though she would totally botch the concept the character art would at least end up more consistent since she'd be unable to constantly abandon major characters for months at a time.

I can't think of another situation where pandering to furries would actually make a story better, this shit is fascinating.
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>>82796070
Well it's furry shit, and all furry shit is terrible.
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>>82796463
She plastered Jiji all over her Patreon to draw interest after her K$sha animation and she hasn't appeared yet and probably won't for a long time. What she has now is a comic with too many characters that get too little time to themselves and thus nobody ends up caring about them. You're probably right that just winding in her desire to show everyone everything else first before getting to what most of them came to see is her best bet for keeping the comic afloat.
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>>82796070
OP's sister.
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>>82796738
>She plastered Jiji all over her Patreon
Holy shit, you're not kidding. That's a bit much.
I'd say maybe she's held off on it since it wasn't originally "her" character, but seeing that makes me think she's keeping it as a trump card in case she ever stops raking in cash.

But even beyond what you said, this dumb sparkledog has more going for it than her other characters anyway just by virtue of being a semi-human character. Shit, she makes for a better fit for the comic's whole shtick than the not-so-protagonist.

Kinda sucks that she makes more than I do just by drawing thoughtlessly. Wonder if she'd try to sue me if I lifted the character concept and made my own comic.
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My main problem with her art in general is that a lot of the stuff she designs isn't complemented by her art style at all.
Most of her characters are a chore to look at because her art style is extremely awkward, and her abuse of the bright pink/peachy yellow color pallette is tiring as fuck.
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>>82796991
Maybe it'd be bearable if the characters had limbs that weren't toothpicks?

>>82796929
I don't see how Jojo would fit any better.
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eleven feet tall
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>>82797176
Head-sized breasts.
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>>82796070
Rebecca Sugar
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>>82796338
Her right leg doesn't make sence here. It's completely straight?
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>>82797268
i think it's weird because it's clearly a plantigrade leg while the other is digitigrade
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>>82796070
Only good thing to come out of all of this.
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Trying to look at these designs hurts my eyes.
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>>82796991
Too much is going on. It's like she threw shit at a wall, and let everything stick.
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>>82797294
They're the same, it's just extended forward more than normal, which looks weird for that foot type.
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>>82797334
It's supposed to be like a dog's leg right? But it is straight and arched instead or bent. That's a human leg rather than a caninine's back leg.
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>>82796338

She looks like a T. rex
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>>82796070
>giant
>werewolf

Those are both good. And my fetishes. But being a sparkle dog is a bit of a turn off.
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>>82797334
No, the clothed leg is humanoid for some reason.
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>>82797458
The blue fur/hair + red overalls design is alright. Nothing too harsh on the eyes and a reasonably limited palette.
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>>82797298
>not 11ft tall
why even bother
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>>82796070 1st dog is ok get rid of the exess colors in her hair. Change the color of the dress so it doesn't blend with the stocking or whatever. Less shit in her ears. Heart is unnecessary so is the feather.
Second verse same as the first except the hair is fine here.
Third just needs to stop existing.
Last is just the ear.
The first dog looks the best out of these changes.
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>>82797458
Ironically, some kind of weird giantess process fanart that pops up really fast on google image search simplified the character to non-sparkledog levels and into just dumb furshit.
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>>82796070
Terrible character designs are the furry "meta," so to speak. Tons of piercings, hipster haircuts, overloaded and painful color pallets, all that jazz. Usually it's best just to stick with established characters from cartoons or video games than to delve into original characters.
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>>82797809
post the rest familia
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I want to impregnate JayJay
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>>82796070
show us your art work
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>>82797989
Hotdog down a hallway
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>>82797918
I mean, if you insist.
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jesus christ, this is a furry board

back to /v/ for me
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>>82798390
>implying /v/ also isn't furry as fuck
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>>82798390
>jesus christ, this is a furry board
You're like 7 years late to realizing this.

This thread's gonna die soon anyway, Zoophobia is such a fucking vapid comic that there's nothing to say about it except "I want to FUCK that werewolf!"
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>>82798472
sadly, this
I do want to be that werewolf's little spoon, though
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>>82798633
That werewolf doesn't even exist in her own continuity, anon. She's just a Ke$ha stand-in in a bad music video, like those lame Scooby Doo rejects from the Mystery Skulls videos.
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>>82798472
>You're like 7 years late to realizing this
Posting furries were a bannable offense only a few years ago. People were getting banned for posting the Pandawa and Ecaflip from Wakfu.
I'm surprised Zootopia threads are even allowed, but it shows you how much shit changed after mootykins prepped the bull.
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>>82798390
Funny, /v/ has the highest concentration of gay scalies on 4chan and have "furry" threads all the time.
>>82798865
It's really only the mods and small handful of anons that actually hate furry stuff now. Most of the site is neutral or likes some furry stuff. I agree the fandom idiots are trash, but that's not going to stop me from liking the porn/concept.
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>>82798865
it literally only depends on how pissy the currently active mod is feeling
I've seen discussion threads about a show on hiatus get deleted while a TMNT porn thread was up on the first page, and this was at least 5 years ago.
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>>82798865
You're either new or don't hang around /co/ a lot.
We spawned the horsefucker board, remember?
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>>82799010
And /v/ spawned /vp/ and /vg/. They don't have room to talk.
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>>82798865
>>82798945
>>82798954
>>82799010
>>82799097
Please more semen demon, less discussion.
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Oh yeah, I remember this shit. I drew this garbage for one of these threads ages back.

...Shit, I was a terrible artist back then.
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>>82799171
show your improvement so I can feel good/bad about myself
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>>82796232
>While the artist lacks the skill to understand things like proportionality and consistency

explain
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>>82798865
I'm so glad moot is gone.
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>>82797176

She's going to need significantly thicker hip and leg bones if that's the case. Either that, or her legs are going to snap into a splintered red mess the first time she hops.
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>>82797298
more
MORRRRRRE
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>>82799332
maybe she's made of pym particles
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>>82799332
Her ass is already pretty fat.
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>>82798390
That actually makes me wonder something, if furries are fucking everywhere why don't they just make a furry board and isolate them?
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>>82799199
Wait, like, of this character or in general?
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>>82799700
because an old meme the mods can't let go
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>>82799700
because where the fuck do you stop with something like that? suddenly no videogames with animal characters in, no cartoon discussion with animals in, nothing with anything vaguely talking animal related allowed in its most relevent board?

if it's just the porn, then /trash/ exists for that
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>>82799714
Well, in either case, have two quick sketches and something I drew elsewhere on /co/ last week.

I think these two sketches serve as a fair comparison for how little I've grown over the past five months, but at least neither of them took over two hours like that piece of shit did.
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>>82799700
/trash/ is basically /fur/.
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>>82800395
That's pretty shit, m8.
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>>82800500
I still don't understand what is so wrong with having an actual /fur/ now that we have a de facto one
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>>82801556
Because then anyone who discusses anything with an animal in it in any media will be shitposted to death.
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>>82796070
i want to fuck kayla the kangaroo

>tfw not australian
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>>82801556
I do, although I want the 'no furry' rule bludgeoned to death.

Actual furry boards are cancer, they encourage discussion of fandom drama and circlejerking egotist artists and commission whores. [I say this as a masochist who lurks them, although I don't use sites like FA where usernames are involved]

The furry fandom is a cesspit of hell, even if individual furries are fine and there's nothing inherently wrong with some furshit.

You do not want the furry version of e-celeb discussions or constant arguments over the morality of yiff.party. /trash/ gives you everything good about a furry board [lots of porn] and /co/ or /v/ should give you everything else [Sabrina, Katia, that one game that was popular a while ago.]. /fur/ would just be a mess. [while also allowing mods on /co/ an excuse to shove-off any comic thread with animal characters because 'it belongs on fur u guise.'
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>>82796070
>DO I LOOK LIKE I KNOW WHAT A JPG IS
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>>82802766
I gotchu family
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>>82796463
Very much agree with this
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So... Which of her character designs are the least shitty ones? My money is on Angel, I think he's fun to look at and nothing extravagant goes on in his design or color scheme. I'm actually looking forward to what Viv does with him in Hazbin Hotel, hopefully it can't be worse than Zoophobia.
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>>82803749
Possum girl in >>82796738
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>>82796738
>>82803785
this guy gets it. I don't mind her art style and I kind of like it, but I don't get what's up with all the homosexual characters in zoophobia?
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>>82803874
>but I don't get what's up with all the homosexual characters in zoophobia?

Look at the art style. Are you really that surprised?

You can pick out which comics have high concentrations of gay characters usually just by the character designs and colors used.

This comic looks like an LGBT parade exploded on a computer screen.
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I like pan but his comic is hard to look at.
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>>82803874
Furshit is like bizarro land, the majority are bisexual, followed by hard gay/les, then straights are a tiny minority.
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>>82798865
Prepped the bull...
Go back to /pol/ senpai
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>>82803874
Pandering to her Tumblr audience and probably herself. It's like a must nowadays, iirc Michelle of ava's Demon went on a hiatus for some time because she received several death/doxxing threats from Tumblr users if she didn't confirm X character was Y sexuality/gender.
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>>82804035
>...
>typing a quote manually
>not even greentexting
This is what a newfag looks like.
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>>82803984
To be fair, this is from his older, shittier art, it's approved a lot over the years. With that said, I think he still has room for improvement, he has character designs down now he just needs to work on backgrounds.
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>>82796070
Furry artists try to make up for poor foundations and design by slapping on as many colors and useless details as they can to camouflage the problem
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>>82804237

>Michelle of ava's Demon went on a hiatus for some time because she received several death/doxxing threats from Tumblr users if she didn't confirm X character was Y sexuality/gender.

Wait what, what happened?
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>>82796991
When artists have very exaggerated styles, you have to step back and ask if they do that exaggeration because they like to, or because they are insecure when drawing more realistic proportions and anatomy. Often it becomes obvious with artists like the one you posted that they're exaggerating things to try to hide that they have a shoddy understanding of anatomy. They try to push it far enough that they can use the "it's my style" defense, but anyone with a bit of experience with art can tell from the way they handle it that they don't have that core background in fundamentals. An artist with technical skill that is merely choosing to exaggerate vs one with no technical skills doing it out of no other options have a very different look.
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>>82804629
A character made a joke/insult about another character being a virgin, which was interpreted by tumblr to be offensive to asexuals.
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>>82804624
It's not so much that they can't draw it's just that after a certain level all furries look basically the same so they jazz up their sparkledogs so that they look as Original as the most creative OCs on DA
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>>82804819
Well they all look like samey shit regardless, so they're not even succeeding on that point. When everyone is trying to stand out, no one stands out.
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>>82804767
>>82804624

Explain
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>>82804872
I'm glad we can see eye to eye on this
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>>82800395
Its still progress
Keep working at it, some of our most illustrious drawfags started out exactly where you are. 'Draw thread general' is your friend.

and then you'll git gud one day, leave /co/, and start a patreon. Just like all the others.
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>>82804819
Personally I think the issue is that so many artists strive for the same proportions which leads to the sameyness.
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>>82804992
Sameness isn't really a problem in itself. Like human characters are going to look somewhat the same because humans in real life look somewhat the same. I'd rather have multiple characters that are realistic skin and hair colors than off the wall garbage trying to be unique by giving them retarded features, or clothing/hair that doesn't fit the setting. No one is going to complain that a character looks normal if their setting is normal. Furries are obsessed with standing out so they make their characters look like fucking spergs.
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>>82805242
Actually to add to my point, I think it could be summarized like this: characters don't have to be unique, but they should look distinct. IE: in your story, they should not look like a background character. But they don't have to be the only character in the universe with x y z characteristics. Subtly standing out will always be better than the stuff most OCs pull.
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>>82804980
>started out
Whoof, harsh man. I've been at this for a while.

Although, maybe I shouldn't be a little bitch and take offense when I offered up quick sketches as examples.
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>>82796070
2nd one is nice
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>>82808605
Agreed.
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>>82799378
>10' tall as a werewolf
>Any of those clothes surviving
>Pretty much unable to reproduce unless your offspring shift back and forth with you, as you'd Holly them.
>Not being a horrifically painful experience every single time your entire anatomy gets a restructuring.

All that said, I wish I had the artistic ability to make the webcomic of my dreams, so I envy her on that.
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>>82799923
>most furries were kids
Furries pre-date the internet by decades and the ones who were posting on it back in the day were in their 20's. Sure there were some kids too but the internet in the 90's was full of college aged people and furries were the same age demographics as everyone else.

People hated them because they generated dumb bullshit drama wherever they went and as far as I can tell that hasn't changed.
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>>82798390
>/v/
try reading through a dust thread
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>>82809405
Body horror is one of the coolest parts about werewolves.
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>>82809809
The only difference is furries are slowly becoming popular
There's a bunch of furry grills on Instagram becoming furfags
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>>82811216
And then you have "zootopiasonas" exploding on tumblr. And no, they are not different from fursoans other than that they're set in the zootopia world. Disney made making a fursona popular.
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>>82811279
My boss sent out an email to the team on Friday asking everyone to think what animal they would be and why, for the team meeting on Monday. I think she saw Zootopia lately.
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>>82811427
I would have been an ostrich but possums are cute too.
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Made an attempt at simplifying her design a bit.
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>Over sized, retarded proportioned sparkledog who makes no logical sense and comes off like a terrible deviantart design
>TFW even with all of that, I know myself to the point that if given the chance I'd hit that so hard my dick would leave permanent dents
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>>82812854
This is non-offensive, acceptable job anon
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>>82813291
I would fuck a shipping crate with a vagina at this point to be honest
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>>82812854
I liked the big hair better for her party girl 'personality'.
Anyone else found the heavily fluctuating leg/foot ratio too triggering to enjoy?

I know cartoons do this a lot, but its mostly the ones with no defined leg structure.
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>>82815309
Crawling in my skiiiin!
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>>82812854

Good job, now I can tell if her hair is bangs or all the hair from the back of her hair combed forward for some reason!

And you kept the key part of her character: tis under pressure.
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>>82815309

Is that from a song or something?
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>>82796070
man I may be furry garbage but at least I don't have a generic sparkledog scene shit fucker
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>>82803984
My eyes! I dunno what it is about it but it's just really hard to read that image.

>I like pan

I feel like you're walking on dangerous ground admitting that. I like him too though. He's kinda funny.
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>>82804767
That's an interesting way to put it, anon. She definitely lacks the basic fundamentals. Maybe that's why I find her work very difficult to read (visually speaking) -- that's the intent.
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>>82797298

Any more of this?

It's surprising how bearable characters are in this style if they aren't horrifying mary sue monstrosities
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>>82796338
>2 different legs
>1 animal
>1 human
>the human one is not on the same proportion as the animal one
>the human leg doesn't even connect to her body, having a gap in the arms section showing there's no connection at all
Ouside of this image i can't stand that she does every drawing of a character with hunched shoulders for some reason. I feel like the character themselves are cringing on the inside.
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>>82799923
>Furry hate is a meme from Something Awful.

This is bullshit, I hated furry faggots long before the internet was a thing.
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>>82815950
not as funny as he used to be though
maybe I just grew up
>>82804492
He got kinda lazy in this one. I mean what is with Bianca's neck
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>>82808590
>>>e621
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>>82799923
whatever helps you sleep, animal fucker
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>>82817990
>not wanting to snuggle with an 11ft werewolf chick
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>>82812854
You're doing god's work anon. Keep it up.
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>>82811427
>tfw you want to use an opossum avatar but they don't exist in europe and you're too autistic to use an animal from another country.
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>>82799923
>trash
>comfy
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>>82804914
they just did
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>furry comics

Can you not?
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>>82812854
Head's too FurAffinity, but otherwise solid.
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>>82797053
The comic is (ostensibly) about a girl who can't deal with animals being trapped in monster world because plot. If you make it about a girl who has recently become a werewolf, you get rid of a lot of bullshit rationalization and immediately establish multiple conflicts worth exploring. You also have more room to fuck around with loopholes and are less likely to wander off on a tangent about the supposedly more interesting characters.

It's pretty crazy how much better the concept works when you make the protagonist directly related to the central idea.
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>>82796070
Themrock
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>>82820445
Trash is pretty chill, everyone just shooting the shit while nursing a half boner and not having to care about rules
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>>82821867
Nobody cares about the comic, just the wolf girl.
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>>82822832
That's literally the worst.
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>>82811427
Zootopia is doing it's job, as expected.
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>>82823367
She promises Google Hangouts as one of her Patreon rewards, refuses to do it for people who pledge that much, then gets mad when people pull out their pledges last day. Maybe don't break promises you made and pledges won't do the same.

Also remember that entire month she took off as a break because she was just so stressed over Patreon and still she got that month's worth of pledges despite doing no work?

How the fuck does this chick make money. It's literally insulting to anyone who needs money or works hard in life.
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>>82823367
>>82823422
>>82823462
Jesus, she sounds like she has a lot of sand in that ol' vagina.
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>>82823462
>May is gonna be MAY-ke Money Month" for me.
Does she think this is out of the ordinary? Functioning self-sufficient adults have to work every fucking day of their lives, they don't need to announce they're going to dedicate one month of work for spending money.

How fucking old is this girl? How spoiled is she? No seriously, does anyone know if her parents are rich? Does she even know what a job is?
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>>82823462

epic lol, what a bad artist
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>>82815309
2edgy.
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>>82823367
>>82823422
>>82823462

Just so I can be on level, is this her usual behaviour, or it's selected quotes so someone can announce "look she's a furfag and this is what she said, that means all furfags have shit character"?
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>>82824547
She's always like this.
It never actually gets worse than mildly annoying childishness, though. Her response to getting on the Bad Webcomic Wiki was to refuse to read the review and call them trolls.

Nothing horrible, just childish and dumb.
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