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Hey y'all.

In about a month, or so, I will be running a DC Comics/Justice League -based game (using MWP's Marvel Superheroic Role-Playing system).

The overall idea is to crossover H.P. Lovecraft's Cthulhu Mythos into the DCU.

The only things I know for sure is that Cthulhu himself is not going to be the big bad, but rather Yog Sothoth (or perhaps Hastur? For "King in Yellow"/Green Lantern shenanigans), with the big guy showing up as a mid-tier boss at best.

Please send me some ideas!

The cast includes:
>Superman
>Batman
>Wonder Woman
>Aquaman
>The Flash (Barry Allen)
>Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
>Cyborg

Also, for the record, I am familiar with "The New Frontier" and "The Terror From Beyond," and want to avoid direct references to either.
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>>77420271
You know, you'd almost be better off running this in Marvel considering Shuma-Gorath and the Cancerverse. That being said, Aquaman should practically be the main character, considering how often he deals with Lovecraftian entities. You've read the Aquaman issue where he punches out an Old One as a yearly tradition alongside Etrigan?
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>>77420271
What kind of stuff are you looking for?

I'm much more familiar with Marvel's version of Lovecraftian stuff through Dr Strange. It is very faithful to Lovecraft's idea's on multidimensional gods and how they interact with the normal universe. How true to lovecraft do you want to go? Where they come from 'dream like' dimensions? That gods live in infinite dimensional space and the real world is just reflections of them upon our 4 dimensional world?
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>>77420271
>The overall idea is to crossover H.P. Lovecraft's Cthulhu Mythos into the DCU.
>The only things I know for sure is that Cthulhu himself is not going to be the big bad, but rather Yog Sothoth (or perhaps Hastur? For "King in Yellow"/Green Lantern shenanigans), with the big guy showing up as a mid-tier boss at best.
>Please send me some ideas!

Hey there was actually a JSA storyline that dealt with this shit! Give me a second and I'll post it for you.
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>>77420399
I agree it may fit better, but we've played a lot of Marvel and would love to try DC.

And no, I haven't! Source?

>>77420415
With Aquaman there, it's easy enough to have him at the center of a conflict with the Deep Ones, or some sort of R'yleh/Atlantis feud.
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>>77420427

Alright, this is "Injustice Be Done", JSA #17-20
Basic plot is that an old nemesis of the JSA's gets sucked into a lovecraftian horror dimension and turned into a Nyarlathotep-type figure who is the herald of this cosmic horror named the "King of Tears". He comes back to the material plane to resurrect his old boss and kill one of the heroes he blames for his horrifying transformation as revenge, and the JSA wind up punching him in the face so hard it not only sends him BACK into the space between dimensions, but it also catapults Jay, the Golden Age Flash, back into ancient Egypt.

>>77420475
>With Aquaman there, it's easy enough to have him at the center of a conflict with the Deep Ones, or some sort of R'yleh/Atlantis feud.

That's another storyline that's been in the comics, which I can post as well. From "The Brave and the Bold" series, it's a team-up between Aquaman and Etrigan to keep a lovecraftian horror under the ocean sealed away from the world.

Would you like me to dump either one?
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Fuck it, we're going in.
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>>77420546
No need to muddy the thread up, but I will certainly look them all up! I know that my players are familiar with "The New Frontier" and the Justice League episode "The Terror Beyond," but those might just be obscure enough that I can pick and choose plot points from either of them.

To me, I think three layers would be best.

Some basic ideas I'd mentioned

Small Tier:
Batman hunts down Brother Blood and/or other Cultists who seek to complete a ritual.

Earth Tier:
Dr. Destiny enters the Dreamlands (with perhaps a cameo by the Dream King himself!), and, by chance or design, awakens Cthulhu himself, who then must battle the JL.

Cosmic Tier:
The awakening of Cthulhu heralds the return of Yog Sothoth, Azathoth, or Hastur. Green Lantern leads the vanguard to confront them.

Just some basic thoughts.
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>>77420664

Ah, okay I'll stop storytiming then.

Sorry, I get excited with JSA stuff. The Brave and the Bold issue I mentioned that you should look into is #32.
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>>77420642
OP here. Since you've started, do carry on!
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>>77420682

Oh. Okay then!
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>>77420706
Keep that shit going dude. JSA storytimes are always appreciated.
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AS a general note though, introducing your campaign by punking the PCs with a villain team specifically tailor-made to fuck with all their weaknesses is not a good way to start things off in a game.
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There's a Batman comic called the Doom that came to Gotham look into that.
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>>77421006

And here's our villain of the show. Johnny Sorrow actually is not a classic Golden Age villain, but was retconned in by this series. You would never know otherwise though because his backstory slots in so nicely with the tone and style of classic JSA stuff.
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>>77420271
The Gentry, Monitors, lost weapons of the Old Gods, Fallen Angels, Bleddiac, Telos, The Great Darkess, Yiga Khan, The Sheeda, The Time Trapper,hell the players themselves.

Go full Hypercrisis with this anon.

Hell I wouldn't mind helping with writing
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Oh shit you're right, that's literally my favorite Elseworlds story of all time. How did I forget about it?
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>>77421042

Bleediac was an awesome idea that got horribly wasted in the trainwreck that was Convergence.
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Hey man, like I said, throw any and all ideas my way! I'm crowd-sourcing this one.
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>>77420271
I'm glad to see /tg/ is up for this sort of thing. How do I contact you guys for something like this? Do I just holler?
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>>77421124

Dr. Midnite is fucking great and I miss him.
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>>77421138

They usually have Game Finder threads from what I remember.
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Terrible Time Taylor, Necron,Neron,The Hunters of Three,The Monarchy, Mr Mind the Hyperfly, 5D imps like Mxyptlkl Vyndkdvyx and Yz, TEN d imps like ULTIMATOR,The Limbo Cell, Orqith, Decreator, The Fifth Horseman, The Scissormen...
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>>77421168

Oh man the SCISSORMEN

Running a Morrison-style Doom Patrol game would be fucking insane.
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The Hyper adapter, Jallakuntilliokan, M'Nagalah, god of cancer...

DC teems with this shit
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>"King in Yellow"/Green Lantern shenanigans
frankly I'm surprised DC hasn't already done such a thing. They had a Batman vs the Mythos comic.
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Meta as fuck
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Black Adam makes a sincere attempt at reform at this point in the series. Johns writes a really, REALLY good Black Adam and that whole arc that takes him through 52 starts here.
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Heroes beating Old ones and Elder Gods? They can't even handle Nyarlatotep's puppet, Joker. Dr Fate is your only chance, batman will pull his face off, and superman's eyes will bleed as he sang a song in a unspeakable language. They will all dance the the dance of madness anons.
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>Black Adam has a tumor in his head
I didn't even know that could happen.
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Oh please, Superman's punched out an omniversal vampire feeding off of the entirety of all fiction. A higher-dimensional being is Tuesday.
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Black Adam's civilian identity is just as mortal as Billy.
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I did honestly like the idea of Nyarlathotep having some sort of Martian relation. Or, at least, the (White) Martians worshipping him as their shapeshifting God of Evil.
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Yet Starro can control him for the x time again. Some thing are never meant to be faced.
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>>77420271
If you got Green Lantern in the mix, look into some of the Green Lantern villains/monsters.

Specifically, the emotional entities like Parallax or ... I actually don't know the name of the Compassion one.
They're pretty much unmeasurable power so real easy to make them a final boss, and they take their singular emotions to such an extreme that almost all of them could be easy enough a reason for a role playing team need to band together to stop
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WHOOPS
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Alright now we're getting deep into the Lovecraft shit.
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Huh, this is supposed to be a two-page spread with the next image.
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>>77420271
Ok I have a basic outli e of a story, what are the limiations of the structure?

How exactly is this beeing planned out?

My basic conetp was to do it in a seires of campiagsn called "arc" each acting as a riff on a classic Dc type of story. So there would be the time travel arc, the Big Hero vs Villian army arc, the Multiverse arc and so on, all threading into an overall climax


Only hardpart is picking and choosing which THings From Beyond, to use.

Dc has a metric shit ton; like they have an entire ecosystem of Eldirth Horrors.
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It's a one-shot. But a lengthy one at that. In essence, it's a story in three acts.
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OH also, I forgot, if you want more stuff with Johnny Sorrow, there's another storytime thread with JSA/JLA: Virtue and Vice that has him as one of the main villains.
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Aw shit, that green text box should signal pants-shitting on behalf of bad guys everywhere.
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Same anon here again. Real talk, I hope you all have fun with you setup. Just remember not to abandon the feeling of dread, and the thriller element that is Lovecraft. Everything can't not be punched or blasted away, so push detective skills and do insanity rolls when uncovering more info.
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Alright two issues left.

Spectre Hal!

Actually the Spectre is a good example of an obstacle for the heroes that cannot be beaten by punching him in the face. That's a good way to build some horror.
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Ah three arcs; okay then let's see here.
Hows this

One arc themed after the "traditional" Dc epic Hero vs villian wars


One mystic hood o voodo vertigo esque arc


And one Trippy dippy Hypercrisis arc?
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The problem with doing Hypercrisis stuff in a game is that it's difficult to handle that sort of metatextual mind-fuckery with audience participation. Morrison's stuff is very focused on the medium of comics and doesn't translate to a non-visual medium as well.
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That's honestly the hope. This group I play with has played a lot of the Marvel RPG, but also a lot of Call of Cthulhu. I'm hoping to find a nice middle ground between "Pfft, apocalypse? We've got this." and "There's nothing we can do, and we're being devoured by 1d3 investigators a round."
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Just personally I know I'm not good enough at improv when running a game to keep on top of it.
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This is buildup for an upcoming arc in which Hector continues to suffer because fuck Nabu.
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JJ YOUR INTRODUCTION TO THE THUNDERBOLT INVOLVED REALITY BREAKING APART AT THE SEAMS DUE TO A 5TH DIMENSIONAL WARLORD INVADING THE PHYSICAL PLANE

WELCOME TO THE DCU.
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Imagine Batman through the game beeing played making detections (this of course is done through wtaver your detective system is) about the nature of the uninverse. Beeing the worlds greatest detctive he figures out they are in a role playing game by recognzing the tropes of the story; the fact thet never use the bathroom; the dsicreet and controled nature of everything and so on.

So then the heroes actually have to save the day by metagaming and abusing the system , like remember all that shit about how to go faster than light in Dnd? Stuff like that.

Think Ultra Comics meets the Order of the Stick
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>like remember all that shit about how to go faster than light in Dnd? Stuff like that.

The peasant rail gun? Oh baby yes.
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>>77422316
I'll admit, I'm intrigued. We actually had a Deadpool player in one of my Marvel games who excelled at doing this.

(And it even impressed me, the ST, who loathes Deadpool.)

So, in that regard, I'm almost a bit nervous about it becoming old hat at this point.
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Doing some resrearch on other Hypercrisis esque rpgs


>I've long wanted to play a Malkavian vampire who knew he was in an RPG. Trouble was the RPG he thought he was in wasn't Vampire and he thought all the vampire powers were the result of rules exploitation. thus he would put on an armoured jacket shoot himself in the leg blood point back to health and claim that the system they were in didn't use hit locations so the jacket protected his leg.
>He would also avoid talking to random NPCs as it was cruel to make them more real knowing they would stop existing if they were not being observed by someone with a PuC glow (and there were only ~6 real people in the world ho should stick together ... terrible things happened when they parted)
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>>77422451
>Malkavian
Oh boy...here we go.
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Time for the finale! Ever wonder how to bring down a Lovecraftian horror that's been incarnated in our reality and just soundly defeated an aspect of God's Wrath?

Turns out all you need is Speedforce, because fuck you
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Also I think a great way to do that immersion is the unfmailar, That is, in game the chrcaters have no idea what eh fuck si going on; so you want to make a plot that is jst ad winding and Nyltomoprhy and fucking insane as the charcters feel;

the players should get a greater and greater feelin of "What the fuck is happeneing" and "IT"S HAPPENING!"

And using the tons of comsic weirdness in DCU as a base really helps that.

Like everybody KNOWS Cthulu, but when Scissorrmen start showing up and cutting out stats from there charcater sheets (which you of course do IRL) THEN they know shit is getting real.

Or how about having Constantine do a shit load of drugs and realinzg they are in a game, and thus avoid getting eaten by the Demons Three by delibertely stalling out the last miniutes session on pointless bullshit so all the players would have to go home.

Or status effects that start bleeding through the edges of reality; ha ha your Dice are weighted with bubblegum now, have fun with your roles against The Empty Hand; or add in drinking games (if age allowed) what better whay to simulate reality itself coming un sane than the very Gods of All There Is getting more and more intoxcated with every sanity hit?
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>have fun with your roles against The Empty Hand

The Empty Hand's ultimate victory over a game would be all the players and the GM losing interest in the group and breaking apart
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>>77422660
Or rather, making a game so good the players obsess over it; feeding his reality at the cost of there own lives.

Welcome to the Oblivion Machine.
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>>77422691

Ooh a game that literally starts draining their lives as they stay awake for 72 hours straight to play.
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>>77422598
Hmm... this is certainly interesting. I think the Scissormen idea is worth considering.
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>>77422691
I like the idea that, for every time they take "Damage", I cut off a bit of their character sheet. Something random. But if it nicks off a section that details how their powers work, whoops!
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Yes, and as they fade away and start spending there time religously blogging about it on the internernet soon more and more people start playing, and are hooked, eventually lives are infected and spread virally; and as these players develope they gain influece in other fields and other works, until the Oblivion Machine has corrupted and gentrifed the entire multiverse.

You ever notice how Hollywood and Pop Music thrive on unoriginality and known factors and IPs?

THis has happened before and will happen many times before I am done with you.

See how my Hand is Empty?
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Stupid scans separating double page spreads.
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>>77422808
Do you read Sutter Cane?
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There you have it, folks.

Good luck with your game, OP. Sounds like you have some good ideas going.
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>>77422955
Awesome thread, gents. Thank you
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>>77420271
Please take note that Aquaman beats the Deep Ones.
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>Dr Fate is your only chance
Swamp Thing could scale Kadath in the Cold Waste and lay waste to all that dwelt there. He won't stop humanity from destroying itself, but he's not taking any shit from the eldest when he can travel through time at will and flatten the gates of hell.
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Moore takes Swamp Thing into conflict with cosmic horrors sometimes, and has him play the cosmic horror other times. The thing that raped Swamp Thing would probably give Lovecraft a seizure.
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>>77423084
In one story, yes, Aquaman beats the Deep Ones. Duly noted.
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