Why did cartoons go to such shit during like 2006-2010?
I mean don't get me wrong, we're still not back to the glory days of the Golden Age or the 90s/early 00's but there's at least a handful of decent shows now. During this specific time period I'm talking about
>Cartoon Network starts making shit like pic related, Camp Lazlo, My Gym Partner is a Monkey, gave the annoying orange a tv show
>Spongebob starts going to shit
>Fairly OddParents starts going to shit
>Disney Channel, which was never GREAT cartoon wise but at least had some good stuff and played Disney/Pixar movies goes absolutely full retard and starts appealing to autistic/ADHD retards
>Adult Swim tries to cash in on Tim and Eric's success by making way too many live-action shows and letting almost all their animation go to shit
>South Park, which was already falling off, starts to get absolutely Simpsons-tier for a while and all other Comedy Central animation is just edgy shit that tries to outdo Adult Swim in terms of gross out humor
>King of the Hill gets cancelled to give Seth McFarlane ANOTHER fucking show on Animation Domination so that there's nothing to choose from but Zombie Simpons and Seth's shitty ass shit
Seriously, this was one of the darkest moments for cartoons ever. As I said we still haven't fully recovered but god damn when I think back to this shit it just seems like everything which was long-running started to go to shit and everything new was fucking awful.
i won't deny that this was a shit era but King of the Hill ended on it's own terms and becauseyou grew up
>>84493929
*2005-2010
>>84493929
>Why did cartoons go to such shit during like 2006-2010?
Execs probably thought kids would like them and it saved them money by not hiring animation teams/colorists/voice actors for cartoons. They used kids just new to the world of acting and recorded in their own studios the company owned. CN still used those "CN Real" actors for their PSA's and shit.
>>84493929
Blame Stuart Snyder for being a greedy jew.
>>84493929
While Cleveland show was mediocre as fuck, American Dad jumped in quality after 4 seasons.
>>84493966
>you grew up
Okay but I rewatch stuff from the time period right before it all the time and pretty much never get sick of it. I've even seen stuff recently that I didn't watch as a kid like Invader Zim and Ren and Stimpy and in my opinion they're miles above the shit I'm talking about. I also like Regular Show and Adventure Time (up to a point) and think Steven Universe is okay and Adult Swim is starting to get better. I also see South Park as having recovered even though some people it's still in a rut.
>>84494009
Yeah I guess it started from there but it seems like it really got bad in 06-07. Maybe it had something to do with youtube and the internet starting to become more and more mainstream
>>84493929
>Camp Lazlo is shit
I will never understand this meme; its a comfy cartoon about summer camp with some classic Murray cartooning and expressions. It has more style oozing out of it than most cartoons then and today, is it because it wasn't just Rocko 2 or Rocko CN? I don't get it.
And yeah, while the majority of TV at the time wasn't great, there were still some gems here and there to find. I really liked the original Ben 10 and that still holds up more than some of the later stuff.
>>84494076
Anything that takes 4 seasons to get better doesn't deserve a first season
>>84494126
I'll give you original Ben 10 was cool.
I wish Kevin would have gotten a spin-off instead of all the sequels desu
>>84494161
The last 8 seasons of AD were funnier and better writing than anything post-Simpsons golden era.
>>84493929
I agree with some of this, but this era finally brought Phineas and Ferb to the world! This was the time back when PnF was in its heyday!
>>84493929
Old people were peddling shit to kids thinking they knew what they'd like. Bringing in new blood revitalized the networks and set new standards for entertainment that isn't shallowly aimed at kids, but has broader appeal.
>>84494243
>A pile of shit was better than pure liquid diarhea
>>84493929
It actually wasn't all bad.
Metalocolypse
Legion of Superheroes, which is a criminally underrated show.
El Tigre
Code Monkeys
SuperJail
Phineas and Ferb
Brave and the Bold
Flapjack
Spectacular Spider-Man
Star Wars the Clone Wars, although it didn't get consistently good until season 3.
>>84494404
Eh the only good shows on the list are Metalacolypse and SuperJail IMO but I might just be biased since I never liked Phineas and Ferb and am not really a superhero cartoon fan outside of Batman animated series, Beyond, and the original two JLU series
It kinda sucks that DXD is just Disney's excuse to only air sitcoms on Disney channel.
>>84494404
Fuck, I forgot Clone Wars technically fits in this era. Love that shit. The earlier seasons had some pretty neat arcs like Malevolence and Ryloth too.
>>84494479
>only liking edgetoons (that are good but nonetheless)
Die C.I.S (Confederacy of Independant Systems) scum
>>84494404
I can't watch Phineas and Ferb. I just feel way too sorry for Candace in every episode.Flapjack is shit
>>84493929
Camp Lazlo (which is where a good chunk of the classic spongebob staff went) was decent. not amazing, but decent
>>84493929
You grew up.
>Transformers Animated
>Bad
>>84493929
>glory days
stopped reading there
That era was my freaking childhood. ROT in Hell. FOREVER.
The economy went to hell and dynamic animation wasn't as profitable as the alternatives. See: the 70's.
>>84494907
it was though
>>84494934
>>84494870
>I have the mature, grown-up position and thus feel confident when I tell others they are manchildren
>on the comics cartoons board of a site which originated to talk about porn and anime
>>84495076
shit taste brah
>>84495076
TFA fucking ruled. You have absolutely awful taste in entertainment.
>>84495158
>>84495138
Okay I didn't necessarily think it was "bad" I just got really bored by it and didn't like the character designs. The animation was bretty gud but I just never got into it
>>84494830
Flapjack has a lot of charm but I could never watch it. The show is just gross-looking and its off-putting.
>glory days of the Golden Age or the 90s/early 00's
please don't start this shit again
>>84494404
>El Tigre
Damn. Nostalgia.
>>84495386
Nigger I'm not trying to be "le ebin 90s kid" I'm just saying that when you compare shows like fucking My Gym Partner is a Monkey to Bugs Bunny or Dexter's Lab or Space Ghost Coast to Coast to Fat Guy Stuck in Internet or some shit there are noticeable differences in quality.
>inb4 you're one of those fags who tries to argue that apart from a handful of decent shows the 70s and 80s had good cartoons
>>84495343
>>84494830
Flapjack was pretty good; not great, but I watched it, mainly for K'nuckles. From my memory he's the first alcoholic, asshole cartoon protagonist.
I liked the first season of Chowder more, though. The world felt more fleshed out and fun. Plus, Dana Synder played an autist.
Both became reliant on meta-humor or hyper-realistic cut-aways that ultimately stagnated plot lines and ruined the feel of the shows.
>>84493929
On the bright side, no tumblr shows.
>>84493929
>didn't get CN until the dark age of live action started
>missed the experience of good shows with good bumpers with seemingly random daily schedules
>Boomerang only plays cartoon cartoon shows now to still be called 'retro', they're all played late at night
>still no stream set up like neo-toonami but for CN city era w/bumpers
well, at least I just found out fusionfall is being remade.
>>84495508
At least these two lead to better shows coming out.
>>84495508
>Both became reliant on meta-humor or hyper-realistic cut-aways that ultimately stagnated plot lines and ruined the feel of the shows.
I feel like this shit has fucked up a lot of cartoons because they saw Spongebob do it and were like "Omg that's how we'll make tons of money!" while failing to appreciate why it's funny in Spongebob and thus making it extremely unfunny in their shows
>>84495593
I mean, I get where you're coming from, but saying things are bad because tumblr likes them is kind of like when people try to say Invader Zim sucks just because the fanbase are a bunch of "le randum" Hot Topic shoppers
>>84494352
>a medium tasy snack was better than a low tasty snack
>>84495663
>Invader Zim sucks just because the fanbase are a bunch of "le randum" Hot Topic shoppers
>implying this isn't true
You're not helping your case tumblr.
>>84495703
I'm not from tumblr but alright we get it you are the true cartoon expert
>>84495593
That's because tumblr wasn't a thing yet, dumbass
>>84493929
Flapjack, Chowder, Batman: BatB and Transformers Animated were the only saving graces. And I had to watch as Transformers Animated got sabotaged in scheduling by Cartoon Network and then end on a cliffhanger.
>>84495752
It's sad that kids today will never know real cartoons.
>>84495765
I don't know, Flapjack and Chowder have that tumblr toon look to them.
>>84495774
forgot Spectacular Spider-man. It was so disheartening returning to Kids WB to catch that show and see the shambles that block was in.
>>84493929
>>84495506
The Golden Age was back in the 40s bro. Even in the 90s they were outsourcing animation and shitting it out on a dime store budget.
>>84495774
>Transformers Animated got sabotaged in scheduling by Cartoon Network and then end on a cliffhanger.
What? The show actually got wrapped up pretty well.
>>84495818
>>84495765
>>84495703
>>84495593
>If tumblr likes it I can't like it because then all my anonymoose buddies on 4chan will call me a faggot
Pathetic
>>84495855
>liking tumblr shows
Now that's pathetic.
>>84495841
When I said the Golden Age OR the 90s/early 2000s I meant the Golden Age you're talking about from the 40s-60s (like Looney Tunes, Tom and Jerry, original Disney films, and so on) you fucking idiot, not that the 90s were the Golden Age
learn how to read
>>84493929
>Why did cartoons go to such shit during like 2006-2010?
They're still shit today though.
>>84495841
He said "glory days of the Golden Age or the 90s/early 00's". It is weird he didn't refer to it as the Renaissance.
>>84495902
tell me what is and isn't a tumblr show so I can be sure my epic trollers on 4chan won't chastise me for my opinions
>>84495926
This. If anything, they're worse than before.
>>84495936
>The Loud House
>Uncle Grandpa
>TTG
>>84495952
Eh at least flash animation doesn't look as shitty as it used to and not as many shows rely entirely on it.
There's been some good developments like
>Rick and Morty
>early Adventure Time
>Bob's Burgers
>majority of the Regular Show
>Recent season of Spongebob
>Recent seasons of South Park
>Brad Neely's stuff for Adult Swim
Also I'm not a fan of Steven Universe at all but I give it credit for trying to do something other than just be a "lmao so randumb" Millenial toon like so much of Cartoon Network's shit right now.
>show has a good story
>show has good characters
>show has a good art style/design
>show has good animation
What show has all of the above, /co/?
>>84494404
>El Tigre
>not all bad
>>84496023
define 'good'
do you mean authentic?
>>84494352
>Shit, shit, and shitty
Opinion discarded
>>84496023
First 3 seasons of spongebob, king of the hill, and the original ren an stimpy are all that really comes to mind as far as all four at once
>>84496003
>tfw I like these (minus TTG cause its shit) and "tumblr shows" cause im not a fucking sheep that follows memes.
wew
>>84496075
good is good and all is else is naught
>>84496085
>he thinks Ed, Edd, n Eddy was bad
It definitely had a quality dip in later episodes but I really don't even believe you're being serious
Says the freaking 90's kid
Don't get me wrong, as much as i love those shows, i honestly don't even give a hell about that pathetic "quality budget in cartoons" thing, and i could not care less if it just died in the middle of nowhere.
>>84495952
>>84495926
Stop pretending like your childhood was perfect. if anything, most cartoons in the 2000s and 90s were way worse
>>84496127
Ya called my bluff kid
>>84496160
>Says the freaking 90's kid
see
>>84495907
>>84496161
>He thinks SU and GF are better than PPG and DL
Get the fuck out tumblr.
>>84496161
>most cartoons in the 2000s and 90s were worse than the modern Cartoon Network alone, not to even mention modern Nickelodeon or Disney Channel
are you fucking stupid
>>84496233
kek. I hate tumblr as much as everyone does but I think SU and GF are good
>>84496243
He's from tumblr. They're not exclusive.
>>84495845
They gave it an ending where they defeat the current threat but they had so much more planned.
>>84496161
There, there. Get it all off of your chest. Vent your frustrations, my brotha.
>>84496257
>SU
>GF
>good
Top kek.
>>84494479
>not liking the best animated show of the past decade and the best thing to come from the Star Wars property
disgusting
>>84496287
Sorry mate. Forgot liking shows that you hate were forbidden
>>84496323
*was
Has no one seriously mentioned ATLA yet?
>>84496382
cause no one cares about that
>>84496382
That show lost all credibility when the 14 year old girl took over Ba Sing Se
>>84496323
Nobody likes those shows though.
>>84493929
>>84494009
2005-2016*
Those born in 1998-2004 or so grew up in one of the absolute worst time for cartoons
>>84493929
>Camp Lazlo
>shit
>>84493929
I'd say 2006 was more of a transitional year and the real problem was 2007-2010. There was a lot of shit going on at the time.
>Decline of Toonami and Naruto filler hell
>No more ATLA in 2008
>Shows like George of the Jungle, Total Drama, Chop Socky Chooks, and the Mighty Bee start airing
>Original Ben 10 is replaced with alien force
>Zombie Spongebob full force
> Disney Channel pumps out bad sitcoms. CN real is born in June 2009.
>>84496777
This
>>84495343
That was the BEST part about that show. The uber-realistic shit was hilarious and disturbing.
>>84496829
>>84496382
>>84496454
Avatar came out in 2005, not 2006. It's still a "golden age" show, if just barely.
My Gym Partner's a Monkey and Camp Lazlo also came out in 2005, so I don't see why OP can't consider them part of the golden age as well.
>>84496829
Yeah. In general, 2006 was a weird cross between the comfy late 90s/early mid 2000s culture and the social media era we are in today. It was the last year with a good economy, last year with Pokemon and Yu gi oh on Kids' WB, last full year with TOM 3 on Toonami, and the last full year without iPhones, but also the year where Facebook became accessible to the general public, where Twitter was invented, where Google bought YouTube, where The WB was replaced by the CW, etc.
>>84496023
Jem and the Holograms is the only show I can think of.
>>84496938
Replying to you because I wonder if it's connected: so many of the shows from this era were made in Flash. Were studios being more stingy with their budgets?
>>84497228
Yes, absolutely. >>84495074 was a huge factor in what happened.
>>84497228
I'm not sure if that's it. A ton of Flash shows were already cropping up from 2004-2006, and the economy didn't even go to shit until late 2007.
>>84496829
I also forgot to add
>Death of Toon Disney. This hit me pretty hard since I liked Jetix and reruns of the Disney Afternoon block from the 90's. Disney XD is better now then when it first came around, but it still doesn't compare to Toon Disney.
> Cartoon Network doesn't show movies like they used to. Before they would show a Miyazaki movie or something, now its Open Season 10.
>>84497344
>> Cartoon Network doesn't show movies like they used to. Before they would show a Miyazaki movie or something
Funny enough, they had that Miyazaki month thing in 2006.
As you said before, 2006 was a transitional year for cartoons, with the last of the good as well as the first of the bad
>>84493929
>shit like pic related
Holy crap. I've seen this pic many times on /co/ and judging by the cover it looked like something from the 90s. This is just wrong.
>>84494404
>Metalocalypse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZdSQV9sR54
Camp Lazlo was bretty gud, Fairly Odd Parents was always shit, and, let's be honest, King of the Hill could've kicked it 3-5 seasons earlier and nothing of value would've been lost, aside from that, yea spot-on.
Blame Stuart Snyder.
Actually, the fuck is it with Snyders and ruining everything they touch?
>>84494076
>Cleveland show was mediocre as fuck
Thank you. It never ceases to amaze me that /co/'s hate for Family Guy has let CS completely slide under the radar.
Let's be fair here, every once in a blue moon FG will make a dumb joke that'll at least make you chuckle, even slightly. In 4 fucking seasons, Cleveland Show never once made anything even close to a passable joke.
God you nostalgiafags are idiots.
If you want something to blame, look no further than Aqua Teen Hunger Force.
I'm serious, apparently shortly after the Boston bomb scare caused by putting up Lite Brite signs of the Mooninites, the president of CN (can't remember their name) stepped down, Stuart Snyder took their place and the rest is history.
>>84497767
Okay. Have a nice day.
>>84497509
Dana Snyder is pretty based
>>84497767
>let me make a post calling non-specific people idiots so I feel better about myself
So you can agree that Superboy-Prime was right, right?
>>84497596
It was so bad that Family Guy made jokes about the Cleveland Show when Cleveland returned
>>84496023The Loud House
>>84494126
>its a comfy...
Discarded
It was the age where you grew up from cartoons yet the networks didn't attempt to pander to hipster quirky teens with shit like AT, Star, RS, and SU
>people being this entitled over fucking cartoons
>>84493929
I mean the dates aren't perfect although like all retroactive analysis in history, we like to construct time periods to correspond to patterns even though the patterns and the time periods don't match up perfectly
but basically yes, there was basically a serious dark age of animation somewhere around where you suggest
also I dont think we will ever "recover" since the entertainment industry has changed to the point that thing will never be the same again, also I think you see things with nostalgia goggles, people look at modern shows and see the good and bad things but looking back we only see the good things while the bad things get forgotten
>>84499206
>>84496160
>>84496161
>>84495952
>>84495926
>>84494934
>>84494870
HAHA GROW UP AND STOP DISCUSSING CARTOONS ON THE CARTOON BOARD HAHA
>>84493929
Lazlo and Gym partner were pretty okay. Original concepts at least. I agree McFarlane got 1 show too many (American dad wasn't dissimilar enough from family guy to justify it idk)
>>84499605
I mean American Dad was created and started production after Family Guy had been cancelled, they were not originally designed to be aired together or work on at the same time as ended up happening
>>84496016
>early AT
>implying season 7 isn't just as good
>>84499813
its not, its an improvement on 5 and 6 but they were total trash
>>84494404
>Camp Lazlo is shit
>But Flapjack is great
What triggered this backwards thinking?
>>84499945
are you kidding? Flapjack was a diamond in the freaking rough man
I mean Flapjack's voice was annoying but other than that it was great, neat setting, unique art style, and it had all this great darkness and meanness hidden in it, the Doctor Barber was a serial killer, candy was a not very subtle metaphor for alcohol and Kanuckles was a literal alcoholic, kinda reminds me of Billy and Mandy in a way
>>84496829
What was wrong with the Mighty B? It had a lot of the same atmosphere Flapjack had for me. Obviously they're very different cartoons but I thought they both had a style that reminded me of older cartoons.
>>84499945
Camp Lazlo was dull as fuck
>>84499035
>earthy color tones to match the naturalistic setting
>storylines focusing on specifically on child camper shenanigans.
>soundtrack compromising on a lot of strings and stock/original music purposefully meant to illicit the feeling of summer camp
Sorry you don't like the outdoors, anon
>>84495453
hells yeah. too bad nick was quick to shoved it to nicktoons before it was even finished.
Flash is a cheap and easy-to-use animation tool. Too easy, since anybody with a few hours of spare time can shit out 22+ minutes of garbage.
>>84495663
Re:SpongeBob
Agree. After the movie the show seemed more aware of it's success.
More meta jokes. Callbacks to older episodes. More celebrity guest stars appearing because "my kids live SpongeBob! "
The original seasons felt much more insulated. Removed from the real world. Stephen Hillenbrand said he didn't want the show to rely on topical humour but more from the characters and premises.
I remember after the movie everyone asking if SpongeBobs voice actor changed.I think it's just that Tom Kenny was more aware is SpongeBobs status as a phenomenon and started playing the voice up more.
>>84500632
>storylines focusing on specifically on child camper shenanigans.
Done in extremely loud and wacky ways. As far as execution goes, comfy it is not.
>>84494243
AD?
>>84501265
After the movie everything went to shit. Tom kenny's voice crawled up into his nose, the laugh became "dyayayayyayayaee!" rather than "da-aa-aa-aa-aa-aa!" Patrick for stupider and more malacious, Sandy became The Ace, Mr. Krabs lost his sailor schtick and went Jew-per Saiyan 3, and squidward went from "annoyed by his neighbors" to "unmitigated dick". Plus the art style shifted, and the writing went way downhill.
>>84501279
True, most of the episodes were pretty much just Raj and Lumpus screaming about some shit they'd rather not have to do, Slinkman being the most predictable resentful yes-man in the world, and the platypus playing the straight man who nobody believes. It was incredibly frustrating to watch. Also they painted lazlo as the Hey Arnold type of "do no wrong" character while he was objectively a thoughless inconsiderate shitdick.
>>84496023
Samurai Jack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaM49WDG5tw
If you can make something that looks like an Oni totem pole menacing, you've hit the lottery
>>84501212
[Spoiler ]Total Drama Island [/spoiler]
I think the real discussion isn't about the 1990's in that great detail, but how bad things got for cartoons during that time. I still agree that cartoons in general is digging itself out of the grave it created for itself and I personally think Nick is still in the abyss. I do agree that it was a really bad time, it turned me off from cartoons and only Adventure Time, Steven Universe, Gravity Falls and We Bare Bears catch my attention.
>>84493929
Camp Lazlo was the last show from that time that I actively watched. Even how it ended sort of left me saying "What?"
I seriously hated how Cartoon Network tried to imitate Nick's social shows like forcing out live action shows and award programmes. Even with low ratings they still made more until they didn't get the hint but things got so bad they din't do any live action after.
>>84501265
I actually thought that Spongebob got a new voice actor as well. I can't believe that others thought the same thing.
Spongebob sort of became a trend in my say, like casuals would talk about it like it was something on part with Simpsons as the "main stream" cartoon to watch.
It's a bloody shame, the original episodes are brilliant. I still re-watch them from time to time even though I've seen them so many times.
>>84496023
Sym-Biotic Titan
>>84496777
If you are a kid you are still going to find enjoyment in most shows targeted at you. Take off your nostalgiaglasses and realise cartoons aren't aimed at you already
>>84496829
What is CN?
>>84502737
What are your favorite cartoons, then?
>>84495386
Who's this nasty cock slut? Can I watch his videos with ad-block enabled?
>>84499525
I agree it wasn't a great time for cartoons (though calling it a dark age is hyperbolic) but nostalgia is a real thing and acting like it doesn't affect how people view shows isn't helpful.
>>84502784
Irrelevant. I don't need you judging me based on your own taste
>>84502737
>If you are a kid you are still going to find enjoyment in most shows targeted at you.
I know I didn't
>>84499813
Even the mediocre seasons of Adventure Time are still above average stuff: early Adventure time just set the bar really damn high.
>>84502423
I feel that. I remember being in grade school around 2002-04 and being amazed when I discovered teenagers were watching spongebob. Some parents too.
I look at this way, Spongebob was a cartoon quick and funny enough that it gained an audience outside it's demographic. This success, both ratings and merchandise, led to a movie that made public awareness even higher.
When the show returned the focus was on production and as such the quality dropped and the adult audience evaporated.
And it doesn't matter to Nick as long as kids are watching. Kids were the target audience to begin with. Why should Nick care if 20 year olds don't think the show is good anymore.
tl;dr Spongebob happened to be funny enough for adults to watch but isn't anymore. Nick continues to makes profit regardless.
>>84496293
The Clone Wars was fucking amazing.
![[blasters firing and explosions].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/tykIN4J.jpg "[blasters firing and explosions].jpg")
>>84504338
It really was
I remember in Out of Jimmy's head the Alien sister made my dick rock hard.
>>84502946
Fucking tell us you faggot.
>>84497596
Because when Cleveland show is bad, it's mediocre. You forget about it. When Family Guy is bad, it's really fucking bad.
No one wants to talk about forgetably mediocre vs. unbelievably bad.And I will insist the Cleveland show started finding it's stride in it's final days.
>>84496023
The Venture Bros
>>84501474
Camp Lazlo was the show I stomach ed when Spongebob turned to shit but I still needed my fix. It wasn't very good.
Part of 2005 let's-do-Spongebob craze. Lazlo. Chowder. Flap jack. And the worst and least original of them all; Coconut Fred.
Isn't Out of Jimmy's Head one of those shows that was so bad that it's gone forever as no one recorded it?
>>84493929
Writers protest, union issues, and funding problems mainly.
Wasn't cn going to shot due to a change in management? Wasn't that the reason toonami was shut down?
>>84506092
>my face when it was capitalism's fault all along>inb4 Liberals//pol/fags deny this{/spoiler]
>>84501885
God bless you Mako
>>84506352
I never working in an animation studio, but I do work in a game studio and I know for a fact CN, Disney, and especially Nick are full f scummy management. DESU writers and animators should unionize, and so should contract workers in general. That's why live action and reality shows started cropping up on these channels, DXD is the shit and CN are recovering well, Nick is still ass though.
>>84505557
No clue
>>84506417
>tfw the revolution begins with autistic animators unions striking back against their retarded executives
>>84506454
I think the revolution will start with game critics.
If you wanna piss one of them off, just tell them you wanna do their job. If it doesn't sound that bad, imagine having to play a whole Square Enix game in three or four days.
>>84496023
Moral Orel
>>84493929
>Why did cartoons go to such shit during like 2006-2010?
*2009-now
ftfy
>>84505557
http://lostmediawiki.com/Out_of_Jimmy's_Head_(Lost_Cartoon_Network_Series;_2007-2008)
a lot of the episodes are missing yeah
also
>Out of Jimmy's Head was the only series on the network to be affected by the 2007 Writers Guild of America strike
>which lead to a hiatus and the series adding a laugh track starting in episode 8
>>84506551
No it definitely started in 2006 you walnut
>>84506601
Camp Lazlo, Ed Edd n Eddy, even My gym partners a monkey was miles ahead of the shit they're showing nowadays. I'll admit that the slow decline started in 2006, but we didn't see the full collapse of the "good cartoon" until 2009.
>>84494404
>code monkeys
Have you watched it anytime recently? I couldn't make it past two episodes because I was just THAT BAD.
>>84506727
out of jimmy's head came out in 2007
no matter what you list, nothing will ever remove that stain my friend
also
>My gym partners a monkey
man fuck this show, it started off alright but ended up falling straight into that 'reliant on meta humor' shit , where it became apparent the writers were running out of ideas
>>84493929
>Camp Lazlo
>shit
>>84506777
>people actually liked MY Gym Partner is a Monkey
>>84506814
alright =/= a gem of a show
more or less something you could put on as background noise which I'm sure everyone did
>>84506841
>more or less something you could put on as background noise which I'm sure everyone did
that was the point of the whole thread you stupid fuck
>>84496467
>>84493929
>"hue hue Gym partner, Camp Lazlo are bad"
OP, you're retarded
>>84494870
>>84496161
This isn't the fucking point. Can you people really not read someone's assessment of quality and appeal change without assuming it's nostalgia? I don't think it's OP that needs to grow up.
>>84506869
Nah,
bad shows are shows where you actually turn off the television, you silly billy
>>84497767
Great argument
>>84506869
you're in the wrong thread
>>84493929
>"MUH KOTH"
grow up faggot
>>84495506
clearly you are, shitstick
>>84496801
my nigga
>>84496829
>not liking Mighty Bee, Total Drama, and George of the Jungle
mighty fine shit taste
>>84506587
This is kind of surreal. You never think about more recent shows that you remember being lost. When I think of lost media I tend to think of earlier stuff.
>>84506789
>Facebook meme image
>Credible argument
>>84506882
No, because in this case it is nostalgia talking.
>>84507068
Okay
>>84506976
>>84506976
>KOTH isn't one of the best animated seires ever
god awful taste
>>84507224
>"waaah muh KOTH"
faggot, thy name is
>>84494126
The theme and Lazlo were unbearable
>>84507269
>using "muh" as an argument
Do you even know how remotely stupid you sound right now
>>84505472
>Coconut Fred
beat me to it
you can't have a bad cartoon thread without Coconut Fred
You rarely ever had anything bad to say about them over the period before it or any of that time so it didn't improve and your parents kept getting cable despite it being increasingly grossly over-priced for what it was, so the companies increasingly got the idea that they could do almost anything they wanted.
>>84507224
KotH was pretty pointless if you weren't a Baby-Boomer hating little smart-ass, though.
>>84507453
>>84507576
You can't hide, friend.
>Old cartoons -- Crazy caricatures of normal life
>Cartoons OP is talking about -- Stupidly crazy shit that tries "to be a cartoon" instead of just being a funny watch
>Modern cartoons -- Forsaking "crazy caricatures of real life" for fantasy worlds where craziness is commonplace, optionally adding a layer of "self-awareness" to shield itself from the possibility of it being unfunny
There. I just solved cartoons.
Everything got worse after 2007.
Cartoons
TV in general
movies
anime
the economy
the world
the internet
video games
>>84507576
The creators of KoTh, Mike Judge and Greg daniels, were born in 62 and 63 respectively.
In terms of life experiences, do you consider them late Boomers or early Gen Xers?
>>84507643
Newfag
>>84507627
You sure you're old enough to be on here? If so, WOW!
>>84507730
>>84507643
>>84507627
Nice edits, Samefag.
>>84506984
I guess it has more to do with the fact that the show wasn't popular which means nobody bothered to record the episodes, and then CN never reaired them. It's not that they're lost to time or anything, they just had very little demand.
>>84507758
I'm aware, it's just the idea and seeing the show on the lost media wiki of all places.
>>84507692
Well "Baby Boomer" refers to men getting their bitches knocked up soon after WWII, so post Baby Boom.
>>84507687
what happened
>>84508033
Capitalism is ending and Fascism is growing
>>84506984
Oh there's tons of shows and media from the past two decades that are missing
>>84501381
american dad, use context clues.
>>84494404
>Flapjack
>No mention of Chowder
>>84504338
>>84504717
Too bad it was all worthless filler.
>>84506494
>implying game critics play games
>implying they aren't just bribed to give their scores
>>84493929
>Camp Lazlo
Fuck you, that was great.
>>84497790
>blaming a cartoon for the incompetence of a shitstain of a city
>>84508033
we grew up
>>84510499
>implying i wasn't 21 back then
i'm a wizard later this year
>>84496829
>>84493929
Re-Animated, and Out of Jimmy's Head was the death nail in Cartoon Network. The series was shit, and half way through they made the worst decision of adding a Laugh-Track, when the show originally didn't have once. What's worst, it was affected by the 2007 Writers Strike, and during it's hiatus, they re-aired older episodes with the laugh added in. Also the Character "Robin" was changed from Asian in the movie, to African American in the series.
No, not 2006-2009, that era was my childhood! 2016-present
Cartoon Network's stupidity reaches new levels with Christina Miller at desk and starts making SJW propaganda reboots like PPG 2016 and TTG!
Nickelodeon gets better, on the bright side
Disney Channel cancels its popular new cartoons
Music's stupidity reaches new levels with Megan Trainor, Desiigner, Jacob Sartorius, etc. Rising to fame
Donald Trump dooms us all
Zootopia teaches kids stuff like racism, etc.
Zootopia ripoffs all over the theatres
Terrorism in France,
Etc.
We live in such dark times right now.
>>84511121
Now this is nostalgia and some next level cancer
>>84508079
The two aren't mutually exclusive.
>>84507687
>anime
It didn't, actually. It's just popularly believed that it did.
>>84497509
>Fairly Odd Parents was always shit
>Camp Lazlo was bretty gud
Lazlo was just okay and if you think Disney's FOP was bad you have no right to comment on anything.
>>84506814
I've been watching since the 90s and I though it was alright
You want bad? Try Squirrel Boy.
>>84512848
>not liking based Squirrel Boy
shitest taste imaginable
>>84512743
did you have a stroke mid-sentence and said DISNEY
>>84507669
>optionally adding a layer of "self-awareness" to shield itself from the possibility of it being unfunny
This is my main gripe with stuff these days. When TTA and Animaniacs did it, it was because they came after an era where good writing was the least of concerns in cartoons. They had all the right to be riffing on cartoon cliches and tropes. Now it's just pretentious bullshit where they pretend to be smarter than they really are.
>>84513019
I never got the hate for squirrel boy, but I didn't love it or anything. Fairly comparable to camp lazlo.
>>84513019
>did you have a stroke mid-sentence and said DISNEY
Underage b&.
>>84513062
For that matter I don't get the absolute hate for my gym partner's a monkey. It was just bland and forgettable, but not actively terrible like some other shows. Principle pixie frog was funny at least
>>84513108
It's because OP has spammed such claim as a fact for about 3 years now. You can tell it's always the same guy because it's always accompanied by his "dark age" bullshit.
>inb4 underage nostalgia
I'm from the 90s.
I know exactly what you are talking about op, because during those years I gave up watching cartoons and tv entirely and have never went back. Not because I "grew up," but because of the sharp decline in quality.
I guess it's because the big companies got complacent and put less effort into finding exciting new artists and shows to produce. Basically the same thing that happened in the 70s: Hanna-Barbera produces limited animation, which is super cheap to produce, it makes just as much money as Bugs Bunny from the olden days so they forget quality and get comfortable with what they have. This recession, however, lead to one of the greatest creative booms in cartoons in basically all cartoon history, with a huge overflow of fresh new artists who were bold enough to change the scene, such as Eddie Fitzgerald, Bruce Timm, Stephen Hillenburg, Lynn Naylor, Genndy Tartakovsky and, of course, John K.
The creative recession hit in 06 and we still haven't gotten out of it. Today's cartoons arent as unbearable as the cartoons from 06-10, but they arent that impressive either. Personally, I dont consider a jew girl who panders to the tumblr audience for shekels as "fresh talent."
>>84495606
Hit up kiss cartoon and catch up on everything you missed out on. You missed out on a lot.
>>84493929
>2006-2010
But picrelated came out in 2010 and it's awesome
>>84495138
>>84495076
>>84494907
I can't remember the specifics, but i fringely liked TFA s1-2. Then in season 3, a bunch new characters and stuff got added, there was less Sari (and her role and resolution were ultimate weak too) and I stopped caring
>>84513309
>being this fucking wrong
"muh edgey programming"
>>84496016
Huh. I haven't watched Spongebob in a long time. What made it improve in quality?
>>84495841
I am of the opinion that if a cartoon doesnt have layouts, it's most likely shit. Xeroxing story boards and shipping them overseas was the death of animation.
>>84495952
Shut the fuck up. SU, Gumball, Regular Show, Wander Over Yonder, Star Vs., Adventure Time, Gravity Falls andHorse Showare all incredible. Get some fucking taste.
>>84510925
Cartoon Network went downhill in 2003 when they ended their Cartoon Cartoons moniker but Out of Jimmy's Head was the nail in the coffin for the network. TTG sounds like the epitome of how obnoxious the network has gotten since 2003.
>>84513249
No, 2006-2009 was my childhood. Go die.
>>84513092
Wait... I'm confused, am I missing a joke?
Why are we bringing up Disney?
>>84493929
I liked Camp Lazlo (that opinion may change depending on if I choose to rewatch it) I found it fine.
My Gym Partner's a Monkey, okay I didn't like but generally I didn't find it as completely visually abhorrent as the reanimated or orange shit (Though that was disturbingly recent last I remember.).
>>84495926
>>84495952
>ONLY 90'S KIDS REMEMBER WHEN CARTOONS WERE GOOD XDDDD
Epic maymays, nostalgia and buzzwords aside, we have seen a metric fuckton of great animation lately.
It's fucking baffling how someone in a thread about CN's dark age can honestly believe animation is going anywhere but up.
>>84494097
>I also see South Park as having recovered even though some people it's still in a rut.
I think its a sort of shift in general humor style.
Southpark is definitely out of a rut but the percentage of Topical Stuff to Kids Being Kids stuff has gone from mostly even to mostly topical.
I rewatched the Console Wars Trilogy with a friend, and you its funny, it was then current next-gen fanboyism, and reasons why black friday is awful, Game of Thrones, Floppy weiners.
But they saw the Casa Bonita photo in the first episode. We then went to that and there's definitely a lot less referential stuff and more "universal" kind of jokes.
>"Its up to you to repopulate the earth"
>"What am I supposed to repopulate with"
>"Uh... You know. With your weiner."
South Park has gone topical... which means it depends on the topic and the proximity to it as to how funny it is. The start of the recent season is great, end of it is meh. Though maybe that's an improvement over the last season ending with Pewdiepie?
>>84514377
South Park usually finds some relatively new or unique spin on topical events, for instance, instead of going the high road and just calling the Jersey Shore and guido culture dumb, they center their episode around guidos infesting the U.S. and reveal that Kyle's mom is from New Jersey and whatever, so it's fun to see what they do with a topic.
However I do miss the old "The boys react to an adult situation from the perspective of a grade school student" episodes that the topical events episodes have completely replaced.
>>84514681
>"The boys react to an adult situation from the perspective of a grade school student"
Its the big reason I dig the Console Wars Trilogy, compared to the Letsplay Finale and Ad-Conspiracy (Though it was neat to see that carry all the way through the season).
It was the boys doing a huge LARP over which next gen thing they could buy.
Arguing over consoles is a very childish thing to do.
>>84513276
I can't binge watch episodic tv shows, doesn't feel right. And that's like 80% of CN shows back then.
>>84493929
First off Camp Lazlo was great fuck you, as for CN most of the things wrong with the network during that time was a result of Stuart Snyder who became president of CN in 2007.
Spongebob has been shit since after the movie because the creative director left.
Didney has been out of the cartoon game in a while so they started trying to emulate past success of other networks.
In the past 10 years AS has been very guilty of overplaying a bunch of different shows to the point where it was annoying
KotH was fucked up already by shitty seasons and reverse character development.
You grew up
>>84495841
Where can i find more on pic related?
like, comparisons and animation refferences?
>>84513057
funny you should mention them because one of the main sources of humor is that with all the wacky shit they did on their cartoons, deep down on your subconscious, you knew they were self aware that they were in a cartoonish setting, TTA with them being on a cartoon school, and Animaniacs being themselves rejected because they were too wacky
>>84496070
El Tigre was great, though.
Fun art style and characters, fast paced writing.
>>84518005
While I agree after watching it now, when it came out I was in the 8th grade and everyone I knew myself included thought it was really bad.
>>84493929
>starts appealing to autistic/ADHD retards
Hey I actually have ADHD and that shit didn't appeal to me. I resent that remark.
Grim adventures of billy and Mandy was my shit though, after the last things from before/around 2000 stopped being viable.
>>84494404
>Star Wars the Clone Wars
Aw hell yeah. What sucks is at the time it started getting good I was a try hard fedora tipper in highschool, so I thought it was bad because muh prequel memes and muh 2mature taste.
Ironic considering what the show went on to do, God I hate high-school me. I could've been on the ride.
>>84495787
They can go find and watch them anytime.
>>84518005
I watched the first episode recently and it had too many fart sounds.
>>84508797
That's some sick Power Bait bruh
>>84497228
It's a combination of >>84495074 and the reliance of American TV channels on Canadian animation (already low budget due to Canandian laws forcing the creation of tons of shove ware) in order to keep the budgets of the few shows they still had up.
>>84502820
Linkara, I think.
>>84502438
The story would have been good... IF IT HAD HAD AN ENDING.
fug
It's "Bionic" though.
>>84513569
>edgy
It was rather curvy, actually.
>>84516793
You can if they are good. I tell myself the same thing but I often spend afternoons watching Ren and Stimpy. Ren and Stimpy and Dexter's Lab were probably the best two shows to come out of that era, so those are definite musts. Plus, the only episodes that matter in both of those series are the first two seasons. After you watch those, everything else is icing on the cake, but it far exceeds whats on tv today.
>>84519690
there's a webm of this entire scene floating around somewhere.
>>84511214
yeah, it wasn't until 2010 - 2011 that it really fell off a cliff
