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>the deceased parent is always a perfect saint
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>>84445884
You didn't post one though.
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>warmonger undermining political, social, and societal authority for the sake of a planet only she really has any interest in
>perfect saint
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>>84445884
That shit'll change soon desu
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>>84445884
That's really an anime trope if anything. Also, heaven forbid we actually see their face. It's always a lamp or over bright lighting blocking them from view.
The hell is up with that?
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There's no point in a parent being lost unless there's something to mourn, dude.
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>>84445884
>Starting a war for some cock
>Possibly a huge manipulator
>perfect saint
Nope
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>implying they haven't been setting up for the big reveal that she was always the bad guy since the start of the show

Maybe literal children won't see it coming, but they've been sidestepping exactly what she's done and her motives the entire show.
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>>84445884
Rose isn't a saint at all though. She led a rebellion as a warlord and her actions directly resulted in widespread death and suffering. In fact she seems incredibly guilty about the whole thing.
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>>84445940
>>84446100
Klunt
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>>84445884
>Rose
>a perfect saint
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>>84446094
Cool fan-fic.
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>>84446034
The dead mother is a perfect saint but the dead father is the all-knowing sage (usually setting up key events that shape the story from far in the past.)
It's like death frees up characters to be abstract archetypes.
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What she did relative to us would be if some bitch woke up, decided that ants are worth as much as people, and sat outside an anthill all day shooting anyone who accidentally stepped on the ants.
Along the way she recruits a sex slave she already had in her possession, a mutant freak chased away from society, and a homeless waif. She generally takes in anyone who has nowhere else to use and deploys them as military forces against anyone who would harm ants, or try to bring her to some semblance of justice.
Finally, ant maniac starts shoveling ant larvae into her cunt until ants devour her from the inside out. Straggling outcasts protect these ants as they mourn their brave leader.
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>>84445884
>traitorous rebel scum
>perfect saint
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>>84445884

for some reason i want to masturbate when i see this image
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>>84445884
Is that anon who won a lottery still paying people to false flag about SU?
Give it up, it's never going to be banned. Only the SU general is banned.
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>>84446225
And even then, we're coming back in like a week.
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>>84446225
>people paying people to shitpost when others do it for free
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We don't really know a lot about Rose, and she treated Greg as a joke originally. People generally don't speak ill of the deceased.
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>>84445884
>Perfect Saint

Prior to greg she just viewed all humans as lower beings and fucked them like a environmentalist into bestiality.

She also seemed to be horrible at addressing Pearl's unhealthly love of her.
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>>84446153
Happens all the time in real life.

How many people remember Georage Washington's slaves or reasons for the war compared to what he did?

How many think Hitler never did a single good thing in his life?
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>>84445983
>That's really an anime trope if anything.

I feel like it comes up in a lot of Disney movies and their sequels. There's often a young woman or princess that has an absent-minded and/or overbearing father that disagrees with her on something, and instead of saying "your dead mother would totally agree with me you know" they're always "oh your so free spirited and beautiful and kind, just like your mother was" and it's implied the heroine's mother was everything the heroine was but maybe a little better too, to the point of perfection. You see this with Ariel, Belle, Pocahontas and Jasmine. Tiana has a similar thing with her dead dad. Sometimes you get an orphan like Cinderella, Lilo, or Snow White, and if their parents are mentioned at all it's in a positive light that implies they were saints. With Quasimodo, his parent straight up died to protect him. Same with Todd from Fox and the Hound, Bambi, Simba and possibly Tarzan.

You also see it in Secret of NIMH, where the only thing we know about Johnathan Brisby was that he was all around amazing and a hero, and in The Land Before Time, where Little Foot's mother is pretty much the perfectly compassionate mom right up until she dies.
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>>84445884
Tenchi Muyo subverted that quite well.

In season 1 and 2, he has a lot of fondness for his mother who died when he was young. She shaped his personality.

Then in season 3 it was revealed she was kind of a crazy bitch who would play practical jokes on him (scaring her three month old baby intentionally for a laugh and drawing "I'm stupid" on his face in sharpie).
She really did die, but while he was one year old before his memories of her. Since his family are all alien royalty who live for thousands of years, the family has been pretending to be normal humans since the bronze age. So his older sister was treated as his mother's twin sister when humans were around because they looked so much alike.

When his mom died, Tenchi's sister stepped in pretending to be his mom. But since the shrine had more visitors in the modern era than it did in medieval Japan when his dad was a kid, nobody ever told Tenchi he was a near-immortal alien duke and they had to be even more careful to keep up appearances. So Tenchi's "mother", AKA his sister, went to space and they faked her death because they couldn't explain her looking like she was a teenage girl when she was supposed to be a thirty year old mother.

So Tenchi finds out his mother was a very unpleasant person, and all his happy memories of a woman who taught him to be kind and took him on walks through the countryside were of his sister who he then reunites with. To top off the subversion, his sister is a prankster too; she just had the common decency not to pull mean practical jokes on a toddler.
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>>84446094
>to be born good
Morality is only created in conflict and is universally relative.
>overcome your evil nature
This implies that it isn't making subjective morally correct decisions isn't in itself what defines "good" on an individual basis, or decisions in sync with norms of "good" on a societal basis.

This show is so stupid. They can't even make their good-aligned conflicted characters make sense, which is so easy it's cliche.
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>>84448858
That's not a quote from the show, mang.
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>>84448858

>attempting to argue against something that never happened in the show
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>>84445884
I mean its not a trope, its something people actually do

they will idolize dead people and since they are dead they can't prove us wrong or disappoint us
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>>84447577
>and fucked them

Nice fan fiction
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>>84448858
Lol that's from skyrim dude
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>>84445884
>Rose herself admitted she wasn't proud of her past actions to Greg
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>>84445884
>has created a story where that's exactly the case.

Uhhhhhh..... Y-yeah! I hate that too! So dumb!

I think it's more that, now that the charactr is gone, they are only looked back upon fondly, despite being flawed.
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>>84445983
>That's really an anime trope if anything.
Not in Eva. Shinji's mom was just as much of a selfish, manipulative bitch as his dad and Asuka's mom was a crazy person in a mental hospital.
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>>84448858
I never get why you mongoloids keep bringing up morality when true right and wrong would belong within the fields of meta-ethics something which by its very nature can't be relative.
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>>84448858
>That strawman
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Here we go!
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>>84445884
Nobody wants to remeber the bad though anon
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>>84445884
>protag is really shitty/incompetent at his only job
>"Oh, thats okay, he has a great personality and a heart of gold! XD"
gtfo with that shit already.

>>84445940
Give him a break, I've made that mistake before.
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>>84445884
>disappeared dad is actually a cool guy who was playing the world's most dangerous game of hide-and-seek
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>>84451425
>XD"
the smiley is that sells me to fucking murder the one who created that trope
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>>84451378
see>>84451425
I hate SU sooooooooooo much. It's just feminist, lesbian, land whale propaganda for a whole generation of numales and entitled fat twats.
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>>84451498
k
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>>84450928
Yea I'm sure in all those past relationships she just held hands with those filthy humans.
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>>84451518
sorry, I was just taking a rage dump.
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>>84451425
>protag is really shitty/incompetent at his only job
>"Oh, thats okay, he has a great personality and a heart of gold! XD"
I don't mind this at all.
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>>84451378
>kiki's pizza delivery service is actually a flyng steven instead of lapis or lion helping

Also that brawler Steven looks adorable! And of course the dapper Steven! So many Stevens! I'm so excited
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>>84445884
Flashbacks show she has the same "humans are inferior to gems" mentality as other gems.

She sees men and Greg as toys to enjoy for the short time they're together and laughed at the thought of their relationship being anything serious.
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>>84445884
It's implied she isn't so great, but it can't be worse than leaving steven to die or shapeshifting into someone's dead gf because they stopped watching TV with you.
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>>84451638
Didn't Garnet lose her head over a video game?
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>>84451625
>that battle damaged Steven
What do you think it's going to happen?
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>>84445884
Jonas Venture was a pretty interesting variant of this one.
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>>84451687
By the way he's looking at his gem I'd say he had a bad day.
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>sitcom/cartoon/whatever
>the mother can solve all of the world problems if she wants to
>the father is a clinical retard
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>>84451595
I wouldn't either if said protag learned from his mistakes and proved those learnings in different episodes by not being incompetent anymore. But when the protag fucks up over, and over, and over again and needs his ass candied by the other main characters because he's mentally handicapped, I get a little PO'd.
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>>84451758
Steven's getting a little better.
I mean, there was the cluster.
And he learned to bubble shit.
And use his shield and shit.
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>>84451673
Garnet hasn't had her unforgivable moment because Rebecca doesn't want her lezzie lolis to be in the wrong. I want Rose to make a big mistake on a big scale.
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>>84451687
Someone pushed Steven down the stairs
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>>84451824
Garnet needs to fuck up and bad.
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>>84447622
but hitler didn't do anything good- he pretty much was a scummy coward his whole life. Pic related would be a better example.
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>>84451857
He volunteered in WWI to fight for Germany and ran communication through shelled trenches. He nearly lost his sight to a gas attack.

That's more brave than most average me.
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>>84447368
It's reality
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>>84451378
> steven meets bismuth
> steven spends the night at connies
> steven looks for peridots attachments
> steven watches pearl get ptsd from getting cucked
> steven and ruby are going to make some bomb ass pizza
> steven wants to seem tougher/serious
> steven arranges a "date for greg and pearl"
> steven feels bad about being a gem, probably kicked someone's shit in
calling it now from left to right
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>>84448858
what the other anons said
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>>84451894
Everyone who knew him during WWI wrote about how he was a coward, a malingerer and a duty shirker. Lots of people got gassed, doesn't take any bravery on his part.
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I like what AT did with this thing. Finn and Jake's dog dad died a while back and while they still love him and think he's awesome it was shown that he was a pretty big dick to Finn at times and harassed demons who were doing nothing bad and really just wanted to be left alone. He was still a good dude who loved his kids though.
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>>84446094
Fuck you, how dare you download the image I made. I was gonna post that.
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>>84446141
It's a quote from the good Dragon in Skyrim.
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>>84452024
Not being defensive but do you have a source, I'd like to read about that.

I know Hitler seemed to legitimately find a spirit of comradery during his service in WWI. Why would he praise it if he was despised and always tried to leave on illness?
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>>84452075
You mean Super Mario the dragon.
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>>84452143
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/booknews/8006264/Adolf-Hitler-was-a-cowardly-pig-according-to-fellow-First-World-War-soldiers.html
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>>84451894
>brave≠good
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>>84452143
>Why would he praise it if he was despised and always tried to leave on illness
Because why would he denounce or speak ill of the people fighting for his ideals?
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>New character shows up
>They're liked by everyone but one particular character
>Character is obviously just insecure
>At the last second character is revealed to be a complete asshole despite no foreshadowing nor any reason to reveal they're a complete asshole
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>>84451824
>Sugar doesn't want the lesbians to be wrong
>"I want Rose to fuck up"
aren't those contradictory statements because Rose is straight, or at least some kind of kinky alien-fucker?
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>>84452421
That It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia episode that does this is always the example that I think of.
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>>84451687
I'm willing to blame everything on Amethyst
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>>84445884
>Leader of a violent extremist group that crashes peaceful meeting of aristocratic gems by screaming their name in glory and mowing down dozens of terrified, unarmed people.
>Saint

Martyr maybe.
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>>84448565
Wait, I thought Seasons 1, 2 and 3 were all unrelated to each other.
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Pic related?
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>>84452213
No, skyrim himself.
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>>84452658
No, because Garnet is the poster child for the purest gayest space rock love. Garnetfags will are so desperate to call anyone who might find R&S annoying homophobic, I had a acquaintance try to bait me into an argument just because she's bi/poly and needed to know where I stood on the fact that the gems are lesbians, as if we haven't been watching the same show and I'm just going to pull homophobia out my ass.

Rose popped her pussy for a real nigga like Greg and a few other humans, so she's at most bisexual, Pearl is arguably just Rose-sexual, but Ruby and Sapphy are lesbians who are in love with each other for all time and could never be flawed ever beyond loving too much because how will that reflect on the lesbian community. I mean, they're just going to fuck up a baseball game/put peridot in danger because they can't stop flirting? Shit is obnoxious.
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>>84451498

No, you're just being an idiot.

The 80's cartoons were all about "hurr be ursylf" and "durr luv qncuers awl", today's cartoons are all about "dun juedg pepol becuz of who dey ar" and "lyv an let lyv", and your complaint of a cartoon with a bit of the latter two morals somehow being specifically "GAY LESBO PEDO COMMIE PROPAGANDA" is as ridiculous as it would've been back in the 80's. People as ridiculous and oblivious of their inability to think critically were around back then, they're around now, they will be around for a while and frankly, you're not coming up with anything particularly new, interesting or useful. You're just doing what the so-called "uneducated masses" have been doing all throughout history - making judgements about things you simply don't understand based on your instincts and how you "feel" about those things, and people who are able to think critically will always have the edge by being able to warp your perception by coming up with ways to use your "instincts" and "feelings" to their advantage.

In other words: yawn.
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>>84452872
>Radical Rose Quartz
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>>84451556
It's ok tomoko.
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>>84454286
Nice pasta anon :^)
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>>84445983
anime parents are either super saints with calm voices or super badasses where some parts of the story revolve around the parent's past.
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>>84446094

I seriously doubt they've been building her up as any kind of villain.

That said, I do see a reveal coming that she wasn't all that everyone has built her up to be. It's almost certain that Stevens perception of her has been colored by the rose tinted glasses everyone remembers seeing her through.
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>>84448013
>>84445983
With hwo much Sailor Moon seemed to inspire the show I wouldn't be surprised if Rose Quartz was inspired by Sakura's mom from Card Captor Sakura. In Sakura there's a jealous skinny bitch who was in love with the mom too and hates the man she ended up with and even blames him for her death.
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>>84448858
>Morality is relative
When will this pseudo-intelectual meme die
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>>84445884
But anon, this trope is in real-life. Unless the person was an asshole to whoever you're talking with. The deceased will always be remembered fondly.
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>>84454712
Kiritsugu is edgy Jesus before he is a father though
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>>84455386
well can't say he didn't try to be one..

>edgy Jesus
now I'm imagining Jesus rejecting his holy grail in the "The Last Temptation of Christ" movie sort of way.
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>>84455256
I hadn't thought of that, but it makes sense.

I thought it was more like in Sailor Moon the way Usagi is a reincarnation of her former self from the moon, and how she was also basically a clone of her dead moon mom.
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>>84455256
Could you blame her? I mean her mom got hitched at 16 while her dad was twice that age.
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>>84452075
>"""""good""""" dragon
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>>84446094
Just because she is inhuman doesn't mean she is evil, dum-dum.
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>>84452421
Only example that comes to mind was on Family Guy when they got another dog who seemed to be nicer than Brian but then suddenly started being an asshole to Stewie out of nowhere.
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>>84448565
Sage didn't mention Tenchi having a sister. And the only real Tenchi memories from childhood(discounting GXP) are of this dude with a crystal sword making friends with a girl that threatened Earth.
Still in the process of watching the series, just finished season one a week or so ago and took a break.
I don't like Mihoshi, but I understand her.
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>>84457681
I'm thinking of an episode of Simpson where Krabapple is fired after Bart spikes her coffee and gets replaced by new teacher who everyone likes and does a good job. Bart is about to do the same prank to the guy so she can get her job back. She stops him, but the guy shows up drunk anyways screaming that he hates kids.
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>>84448013
Some of these highlighted items make no sense.
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My favorites are
>BIG STRONG SCARY DUDE but is actually timid and into girly stuff! Also wears pink and love teaparties
>Quiet, timid girl is sudden BITCHY AND CRAZY because CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT!
>if you are timid or shy, you immediately have bullying problem in the past
>The bullies/the not bad bad guys get to do illegal shit and get away with it, but if the MC or his pal does it, they get caught instantly
>Wife is sane, smart one and husband is a retarded that cant seem to survive without his wife for one second
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>>84458130
Yeah, it's really annoying, especially when they're right next to items of actual significance in the movie. Why the hell isn't Ariel's dinglehopper highlighted? A fucking blue starfish instead? The dinglehopper is right fucking there.
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>>84445884
>The mother looks like she's posing nude to the camera
>The mother makes me get a boner
>The mother isn't real and will never love me
>I will die alone having known I wasted a good chunk of my life on a image board
always bothered me, like UGH it's 2016 why does this still fucking happen!
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>>84458342
We need to talk
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>>84445884

It's kind of a plot point that the view the various people have of her is kind of... heh... rosy.
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>>84459031
>Ba dum tiss
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>>84448858

Nigga that's from Skyrim.
In a situation that was pretty Good vs Evil.
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>>84446013
>Starting a war for some cock

At a certain point, cynicism just seamlessly segues into "being a dumb asshole".

>>84446211

Her hair is like a giant, super-intricate folded set of labia.
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>People still think Rose is evil
>Saved all organic life on Earth including (you)
Not perfect but come the fuck on
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>>84447622

George Washington freed his slaves. Jefferson would make a better example.

>>84450928

I dunno, maine. It's at the least implied.
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>>84451498

Why are you angry at us instead of at the assholes who are forcing you to watch it?

>>84451554

...Welllll... that is a possibility. I mean, what would 'sex' even mean to her? She can't fuse with them, which is viewed as the ultimate form of intimacy for her kind.

>>84451635
>Flashbacks show she has the same "humans are inferior to gems" mentality as other gems.

And every other sane person.

How could you argue otherwise.
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>>84445884
>the deceased parent was actually an asshole
>somehow, however, they eventually managed to become a perfect saint. Offscreen

I don't want to defend the proto-tumblrites that made up the Harry Potter fanbase, but I can understand why anybody would object to Harry's father.
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>>84459111
>George Washington freed his slaves.
Yeah, upon his fucking death.
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>>84452143

To play on feelings of misplaced patriotism and the kind of admiration people seem to get for soldiers who have been in combat?

I doubt he would have gotten as far if he had been "Yeah, I was in the war and it sucked. I was outta there as soon as I could."

>>84452872

A 'group' of two, one of which is a Pearl. Terrifying. Plus that 'peaceful group' was conspiring to kill every living thing on the planet.

>>84453610
>Ruby and Sapphy are lesbians

Ruby is a boy. The Russians are right. 'Hit the diamond' proved it once and for all: Rubies are male in every way that matters.

Evidence: they are portrayed as dumb.
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>>84452877
They are related. In fact, season 3 is very related because the season 1 villain turns into a girl and joins the harem in a very complicated and confusing manner.

>>84457906
You watching Universe or Ryo-Ohki/OVA? They're different continuities.

All the movies are Universe canon.

Comics (sometimes erotic ones) were put out by the creator that built on the OVA continuity, which is confusingly also called the Ryo-Ohki continuity. It also has a series of short episodes parodying the Peach Boy folk tale.

The way to tell the difference is who the character of Kiyone is. If she's the space cop partner to Mihoshi, its Universe. If she's Tenchi's insane mother, its the OVA.

Here's her OVA self.

http://tenchi.wikia.com/wiki/Kiyone_Masaki

There's also the Tenchi In Tokyo continuity, which is easy to tell apart because the jokes are really childish and there's no nudity or innuendo. Plus, you know, Tenchi being in Tokyo.

Plus there's the continuity with Sasami as a Sailor Moon expy that got two different series with a third rumored.
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>>84459097
This.
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>>84448565
Man, I bately remember Tenchi Muyo. I just remember being a kid and thinking Washu was the best.
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>>84460962

This is some serious confusing ass shit right here man.

Like seriously I don't even know where the fuck to begin right here.
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>>84461541
It got complicated.

See, there's a shitload of different universes and Toonami kind of aired the main two back to back, which is pretty confusing.

The main Tenchi series is also supposed to be kind of a take on Japanese mythology and early Japanese royalty (which was still shrouded in mythology) but as aliens. So lots of keeping track of family trees which gets complicated because half-siblings isn't considered incest and a six billion year old woman hooking up with a seventeen year old isn't /ss/, plus a lot of what boils down to "reincarnation, but explained as 2complicated4humans science".
Spoilers: Tenchi is God. Washu, Tsunami AKA Sasami, and a ghost shortstack are his Valar expies that created literally the rest of existence to draw him down to their level. Tsunami specifically created all life.
Oh, and the mother of Sasami/stepmother of Ayeka is the Devil. But Tenchi cleanses her with a hug.
Mihoshi was a teenmommy who miscarried and killed herself, so her parents had her brought back to life with science which rendered her whole family as temporal anomalies that not even the trio of goddesses understand (and rendering Mihoshi's miscarriage/suicide a totally different timeline that everyone remembers but her because it never happened, like DC's Flashpoint).

Oh, and Tenchi marries all the girls. Mihoshi takes his virginity by sleepwalking, cucking Ayeka and Ryoko who married him before any of the others, because they were fighting over who gets him first.

The comics continue the adventures of his many kids. One of his sons gets into a /ss/ relationship with Eve, as in Adam and Eve, who is the Jurian sister to the first Emperor of Jurai who lives on the moon. She's the ancestor of all humans, making all of himanity one giant rural royal court as far as Jurai is concerned.
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>>84461773

Wow... Honestly I got no words...

I mean I got the gist of it but holy fuck this shit is confusing
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>>84461697
Just watch spin-off.
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>>84461773
Oh, and the season 1 villain? Herm clone of Washu's first friend, after Tenchi killed "him" he was reincarnated as a little girl and sent back in time, and later married Tenchi and had a daughter with him.

Oh, that friend? Washu thought she died WAY the fuck back when the universe was young, which is why she made a herm clone out of grief. But in reality she lost her memory, married into the Jurai royal family, and manipulates basically the entire universe down to having a hand in almost every political marriage and downfall of a family. She's like Tzeentch writing Game of Thrones. She's also Tenchi's great-grandma, and Sasami's grandma.

Also, when the herm clone of her became a little girl? She hired it as a servant, manipulated it into marrying Tenchi, and is currently involved in grooming Tenchi's children for their chosen roles in the universe.


I would like to take this moment to point out that Japanese mythology is really, REALLY linked to Japanese history (unlike Egyptian myth which kind of ends where their history begins) and we have very good records of the Japanese clans and royal family and all the fucked up shit that went on, which isn't even going into how the Japanese equivalent of Shakespeare wrote extensively about all the crazy incest polygamy and adventures/misadventures of the court.

So saying "I'm going to do Japanese myth/history but with aliens" was a blank check for things to get so crazy that it almost seems like Tenchi Muyo continuity was written with restraint.
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>>84446158
That analogy really fell apart as it went on, huh?
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>>84461825
Here's the basics.

>Tenchi Muyo OVA (also called Tenchi Muyo: Ryo-Ohki)
Japanese mythology and history, with aliens. Mature with lots of nudity, innuendo, and violence. Really complicated, Tenchi marries all the girls. Began as one season, got a second season years later, got a third season quite a while after that, then got a series of mini episodes designed to promote tourism to a specific county in Japan. Continued in canon dojinshi by the creator, some of which are VERY lewd (Sasami watching Tenchi have sex, and masturbating for the first time to it) to absolutely adorable (Tenchi and Ryo-Ohki's kids going to kindergarten).

>Tenchi Universe
Made after season one of the OVA. Made for TV, much less lewd but is more of a comedy/action series. Nobody is related to each other. Mihoshi has a partner cop named Kiyone who hates her, Ryoko has a lookalike arch enemy named Nagi with a Cabbit as well who is a bounty hunter. Has three movies in its continuity, the last one isn't a comedy at all but is actually kind of a serious romantic story with an actual sex scene. In the Universe continuity, Tenchi marries Ryoko and remains friends with all the others.

>Tenchi In Tokyo
Created to cash in on Tenchi popularity after Universe ended. Made for TV, almost entirely goofy comedy, with monster of the week stories and recurring villains like Samurai Pizza Cats or Kirby. Disliked by many fans.
Similar to Universe, nobody is related and continuity is simple.

>Pretty Sammy
Initially a one-episode joke in Universe making fun of Sailor Moon with a talking male Ryo-Ohki, Sailor Sasami, and both Ayeka and Ryoko ignoring Tenchi over a lesbian tsundere crush on each other.

Greenlit for a full series when the studio realized kids would really watch it, although minus the lesbianism.
Later got a second series, which was a hybrid of Harry Potter and Sailor Moon with Headmaster Washu leading Sasami to a magical school to learn to be a Magical Girl.
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>>84451556
>Shits on Steven Universe because muh libtard propaganda
>Posts a reaction image of Watamote, a show that's actually fucking terrible, disgusting, and profoundly negative in its impact
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>watamote
>profoundly negative in its impact

Nice one Kotaku.
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>>84462082
>GXP

A spinoff about Tenchi's cousin Seina. Canon to the OVA continuity. Mostly adventure with some comedy.

>Dual! Parallel Trouble Adventure

Exists in the same multiverse, not really connected though. I'm not even going to try to summarize this one, other than it involves a lot of interdimensional and multiple timeline shit.

>Tenchi Muyo! War on Geminar
Canon to the OVA, but doesn't really tie in to it. Possibly setting the stage for stuff involving Tenchi's kids.

Kind of the same plot to Tenchi and GXP mixed. Its also complicated.
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>>84459111
>Be a slave for years
>Probably did some not so nice/wholesum shit to you and your women.
>But hey its ok cause after X amount of years/decades he freed you!

Not going to completely fault him as I believe he was one of the founders that wanted it gone but the other colonies would have told him to fuck right off. But it still holds as an example of history softening up a person.

>>84459151
Its a kink anon. Putting your dick in a vagina/ass/GOOD sucker is the highest kind of sexual pleasure time we know. Yet you still got people who are more than happy to get a foot job or rub one out between a chick's tits.

Rose may never have found a guy/woman worth preggoing over before Greg but why let that stop you from being the only one of your kind to be fucking flesh blobs?
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>>84462205
Wait, one last one that I forgot.

There was an ongoing manga series which kept changing names. It was mostly canon to Universe, but every so often a story would start by stating it was canon to the OVA or Tenchi In Tokyo.

I think some of the stories were made into OVA season 3 and GXP episodes.
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>>84459111
Except they just made a musical where Jefferson is portrayed as a hypocrite who's more interested in maintaining the class and race hierarchies of Colonial America than any supposed ideals, while Washington is America's greatest hero.
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>>84451554
Yeah. Stop projecting your dirty mind on a kids show.
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>>84445884
>through an entire civilization into civil war so she can have rampant sex with subordinates and animals.
Some saint
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>>84445884
>character is half human half something powerful
>somehow still more powerful than the full one
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>>84451824
>I want Rose to make a big mistake on a big scale.
What is Steven?
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>>84463483

I get the idea, the best case scenario being the hybrid has the best traits from each race.
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>Rome was good episode
Such blatant propaganda
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>>84445884
>2 guys carrying a sheet of glass
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>>84455292
>morality isn't relative
How could someone even argue this? The very fact that people argue about different versions of societal morality and are gradients of ethical behavior proves it.

Values like societal welfare, liberty, economic welfare, property rights, etc. are all inherently at odds and are elevated or vilified depending on a myriad of parameters.

>there is a universal moral value
What the fuck is wrong with people?
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>>84465560
religion. you get a stupid book claiming to be the word of god and people who believe it get all self righteous and refuse to admit that other people's views might have value.

and then they run around claiming ownership of objective morality and kill everyone who disagrees because they think such dissenters are evil immoral sinners anyway, completely failing to grasp the irony of the whole situation.
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>>84445884
it's not like the "deceased parent was an abusive jackass" trope is any less common
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>>84454808
Well he's never known her, so all he has to go on is the mom-tinted views of the Gems and his dad.

That said, when the revelations do start coming in, I imagine he'll be more accepting of them than the other three Crystal Gems. Rose is his mom and he won't want to think ill of her, but Rose was their friend and leader, and so they most likely just will not accept it. Like when the Flask Robonoids first started using the warp pads.
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>>84446094
One thing I find particularly disturbing about Rose is the relationship that she has with Greg. I could be speaking from my own experiences here, but it feels like she is grooming him whenever we see flashbacks.

In that Rainbow Quartz episode whenever they were onscreen together, I just felt uncomfortable. It's just something about their relationship is just... wrong. It feels almost predator-ish...

Eh, probably reading to much into it.
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>>84466270
It's at least implied that Rose didn't know how to really love someone until she met Greg. Even then she probably didn't see him as much more than a plaything until they actually talked things out. I don't think Rose even realized what she was doing until Greg called her out on it, which in lot of ways is exactly what she needed.

She viewed herself as flawed but wasn't used to hearing someone else bring up her flaws or pointing them out, which is honestly why I think Rose and Greg worked so well. Greg accepted her not for an idealized image, but as she actually was.
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>>84466270

Well, that episode WAS made to show how, no matter now nice Rose is, she's still an actual alien who's probably lived for a very long time, and is therefore not going to be able to gel with humans as easily as she thinks she would.

It'd be better if we got another episode after that point and we can see how Rose has grown in a more personal understanding of humans.

Closest thing we have is the video tape, and she's not really interacting with Greg that much in it.
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>>84445884
Rose was the real villain.
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>>84466064
Come on man, it's a religion of peace.
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>>84460962
Ryo-Ohki/OVA on kissanime.
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>>84458299
>Wife is sane, smart one and husband is a retarded that cant seem to survive without his wife for one second
the funny thing is 50's sitcoms used to have the opposite situation, and this trope originally started as a subversion of that.
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>Rose tinted glasses
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>>84451498
Drinking game.
Take a shot for every buzzword in this post.
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>>84467282
Pretty sure that was the joke but well, you're retarded so it can't really be helped.
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>>84446225

That is one of the most pathetic things I've ever heard on this site in a long time.
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>>84462447

Is this the one where Ryoko and Tenchi are actually together? Saw scans years ago but couldn't find it.
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>>84445884
100% nice and saint characters are boring. Either Sugar knows this and theres an obvious twist or she doesn't and Rose is a boring character.
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>>84466270
thats just how it feels when an old person romances anyone.
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>>84466369
>until she met Greg
but did she love greg or was it more imitation
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>>84468368
I'm pretty sure that she ultimately did, and still hold that Love Like You is from her to Greg. The Rose we see in Lion 3's video is very different from the Rose we've seen in the flashbacks so far.
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>>84467697
I think only one arc was the post-final movie Universe one, where they go to space to prevent a galactic Sengoku jidai. AllI remember from that is a joke where they encounter a race of black space samurai in a civil war and Sasami asks if they are Mihoshi's race and Mihoshi responds by saying her skin is gray scale #73 and they are gray scale #74 (because the comic was in black and white), and later Ayeka put on a dominatrix outfit and fucks a guy with a strapon off-panel while posing as his mistress so the others can rummage through his quarters for secret documents.

Unless you mean this? This is part of the OVA doujins.
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