>Gary Phillips and Elena Casagrande will transfer the Vigilante identity to a new bearer and locale for "The Vigilante: Southland," a new six-issue series from DC Comics.
>"This take on Vigilante incorporates current social and political issues, making 'The Vigilante: Southland' both relevant and contemporary, which sounds like an incredible direction to take new stories featuring this character," DC Entertainment Co-Publisher Dan DiDio said in a statement. "Gary's experience with crime fiction will give Vigilante an edginess and grittiness that hasn't been seen before."
>According to the series description,
>"The Vigilante: Southland" is the story of Donny Fairchild, a failed NBA player who's just making ends meet as a maintenance man. When his girlfriend stumbles on a conspiracy to steal water rights through a series of shady land-development deals, she's mysteriously murdered. Once Donny starts getting too close to the cause of her death, his house is blown up and he's left for dead. Determined to bring the killers to justice, Donny undergoes training from an urban legend known as the Eastsider to become a masked vigilante.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/dc-reinvents-classic-hero-as-young-black-man-in-vigilante-southland
>he's a failed basketball player with electricity powers
kek
That costume is fucking awful
>electric powers
jesus christ they don't even hide it anymore
>failed NBA player
That reminds me of something. At least they didn't market him as "beautiful". Seriously, that's weird word to use.
>>84419363
They also confirmed that OG Vigilante is training him, i wonder if his costume will appear
>>84419363
So... He's the Black Kick-Ass? We're calling him Black-Ass from here on /co/
>>84419363
Could be interesting. Sounds like Terriers, but with a black guy,
>>84419363
Jackets fine. Mask looks weird.
>>84419363
>Electric powers
>Black guy
I'm actually cool with this. At least we get Vigilante back as well.
>>84419426
Which one, Adrian Chase? Might be cool
Hey It's Notwing
But what would Alan Moore say?!?!?!?!?
>>84419481
They haven't said who, but he would be my bet
>>84419363
actually sounds like it's going to be pretty good
>writer wrote a graphic novel for Vertigo
>artist did Doctor Who and one issue of the digital-first Arrow Season 2.5
>>84419515
The new guy's outfit looks like his costume >>84419467
So I'm assuming it's him and not the cowboy
I guess Rebirth un-blew his brains out
>>84419363
Now that i think about it
>Wild dog are now a gang that green arrow is fighting
>Vigilante is back
We just need Ennis to do one last story with Tommy for old times sake and we are golden
>>84419363
Social and political issues do not belong in comics, that's what blogs and opinion pieces are for.
>>84419527
The writer is mainly a novelist I think?
>>84419550
The description of the story looks more like some kind of /x/ tier shit though
>Marvel makes a body jumping black basketball player
>DC makes a new hero who was also a black basketball player (except less successful)
What is hypercrisis trying to tell us?
>>84419550
>wahhh stop making me think wahhh
>>84419550
>Social and political issues do not belong in comics
This wasn't true in the 30s and it's not true now.
>>84419550
Sure thing, buddy.
>>84419550
But that's wrong.
What should never be part of art is political correctness, self censorship, and pandering.
>>84419552
>Gary Phillips has written for the Los Angeles Times Magazine, San Francisco Examiner, Washington Post and regularly posts on online at FourStory. His novels include The Perpetrators, The Underbelly, THE JOOK, and seven books in the Ivan Monk and Martha Chainey series. Phillips has also contributed to and edited short story collections such as THE COCAINE CHRONICLES, Politics Noir, ORANGE COUNTY NOIR and Send My Love and a Molotov Cocktail!
So he's got some reporting chops and crime fiction background, and he's writing something set where he's lived. That's promising.
>>84419580
No group is more persecuted than the Christian. Amen.
Name five black superheroes without electricity or technology powers
Hard mode: No Luke Cage, Falcon or Black Panther
>>84419580
That was Denny entire thing tho, during the whole of the 80s and 70s, his Question run was full of social commentary and shit and Green Arrow is pretty much the liberal hero
>>84419559
It's actually more like the water crisis in Michigan where people made a huge deal about poor people getting water shut down for them because they didn't pay their bills. Basically they think water should be free for everyone and this story seems to be using that to say higher ups are keeping water away from poor people.
Static any one ?
>>84419621
>tells people to name 5 heroes
>lists 3
Vixen, that new Power girl, Bumblebee
That's 6 now
>>84419621
>Name five black superheroes without electricity or technology powers except for the ones that actually count
>>84419621
Earth 23 Superman ?
>>84419550
Superheroes literally started as blatant New deal interventionist vigilante propaganda made by jews. That's like saying religion has no place in the bible.
You think shit like Captain America punching nazis or Supermans first recurring bad guy being the Us Government was apolitical?
>>84419621
MILES MORALES. Also,what's wrong with black dudes with spark powers? Yeah its common, but as a black, I'd like to use electric powers.
>>84419642
AH! Technology powers.
Art won't suck.
>>84419669
So BP doesn't count either cause of his suit?
>>84419621
that nigga who replaced Mark Grayson (Invincible) for a while
Miles Morales
Sunspot
Nightcrawler (his fur is black)
Nighthawk
>>84419693
Well is it like power armor or just a suit made of magic metal?
>>84419363
I can't believe that Didio made Dick black
Why does he hate Dick so much?
>>84419621
Miles, Nighthawk, Spawn, Isaiah Bradley, and Brother Voodoo.
>>84419700
>Miles Morales
His venom sting is electric in nature or portrayed as such in artwork.
>Johns apparently had to fight to put Dick back in blue
>they created a new character that looks like his new suit
>and it's blue
lol
>>84419621
Dr.Mist
Earthstrike
Dawnfire
Orpheus
Onyx
Brinze tiger
>>84419743
it attacks the nerves so I'm sure it has some basis in electricity
>>84419748
>new character
His design is based on his predecessor
>>84419467
>>84419467
There was a Vigilante other than the Cowboy?
What other stuff the creative team has done? They sound literally who.
>>84419508
Did he create Vigilante? Tell me about the first version.
Why isn't /co/ throwing a bitchfit over the racebending?
>>84419935
It's okay when dc does it.
>>84419935
Why should we? It's not an existing character
>>84419953
neither is the black chick taking tony's place.
>>84419935
Because OG vigilante is apparently training him
>>84419914
Yep. Attorney's family get killed and he goes to REVENGE.
>>84419914
I'm kinda disappointed that the main character isn't some sort of urban cowboy.
A: that's the plot of China town.
B: the niggawatz meme is becoming real, what the fuck.
>>84419935
because /co/ isn't a hivemind and the people who deeply care about racebending are probably shitposting elsewhere, not reading comics, or trying to prove to /pol/ that they are super cool
>>84419997
>B: the niggawatz meme is becoming real, what the fuck.
It's been real for a long ass time anon.
>>84419621
Vixen
Jon Stewart (Does the ring count as technology?)
Firestorm
Spectrum
Doctor Voodoo
Blade
>>84419979
Okay so?
>>84419935
>racebending
There is no racebending, like that pic you posted OP is a Legacy character of a different race
>>84419979
The difference is that Marlel has scrapped their core heroes over the last 2 years for diversity sake and pretending its because they actually like the idea o Legacy heroes while Vigilante is a literal who to most people and is a Legacy hero who not many people care a bout
>there are never pretty boy black heros
Why do they always have the same hard face and nigga lips? And im saying this a black person myself
>>84419407
WHY DC WHY
>>84420021
Miles?
They pretty boy'd Mr Terrific in Arrow although he's technically not Michael
>>84419363
this actually looks cool
>>84420018
>There is no racebending, like that pic you posted OP is a Legacy character of a different race
But co looses its shit over this when Marvel does it.
>>84420048
Because
>The difference is that Marlel has scrapped their core heroes over the last 2 years for diversity sake and pretending its because they actually like the idea of Legacy heroes and diversity while Vigilante is a literal who to most people and is a Legacy hero who not many people care a bout
>>84419601
pretty much this
I guess October really is the weird mini month.
Might read it.
>>84419700
nightcrawler's fur is blue and he's ethnic german. Disqualified.
I will substitute Maggot and his ravenous biodrones.
>>84419979
that was mostly due to casual normies, no one with sense has ever given a shit about comics Tony
>>84420130
Why are normies such racist fucks?
>>84419621
>Name the Seven Dwarfs
>Hard mode: no Grumpy, Sleepy, Happy, Bashful, Sneezy, Dopey, or Doc
>>84420161
They're just experiencing their first bought of NOT MUH. Look at how the Hydra Cap stuff blew up. Basically like children who can't understand status quo.
>>84419999
>people who give a shit about integrity don't read comics
nah
>>84420205
bout*
It would be good if I could type, alas
>>84419635
>Poor people can't pay bills
>ok lets pollute their water source 8)
>>84419935
Because DC has proved that they can do diversity a lot better than Marvel.
Also, thats not 'racebending', thats legacy.
>>84420238
How many Asian DC heroes can you name that aren't martial artists or ninjas
>>84419363
>he's black
>electricity powers
>costume has black and blue
how original
>>84420271
Doc Light.
>>84419621
Vixen
John Stewart
Misty Knight (does metal arm count as tech if she didn't build it?)
Sunspot (not Afro-American but Afro-Latino)
Miles Morales
Bronze Knight
Connor Hawk? (Afro-Asian?)
Firestorm
Spawn
>>84420271
Atom
>>84420102
>ethnic german
>Mystique isn't German
I'll give you Azazel
>>84420271
Dr. Light
Naiad
Kai-Ro
Thunder
Lightning
There's more.
>>84420271
New Super-Man
Wally's daughter before she got deleted
>>84419935
because Vigilante has sucked for nearly thirty years and this looks promising relaunch. I'm getting a Kate Spencer Manhunter vibe from it.
>>84420021
Shadowman is pretty.
>>84419935
There have been various people using the name Vigilante.
>>84420271
Eh. There's actually a good number. Ryan Choi, a chunk of the Great Ten, the new Superman, Dr Light. That said I don't get why people bitch about race, it's the quality of the writing that matters.
>>84420355
he was born in germany and raised german tho
Romani maybe, pretty sure those circus folk were romani
>>84420271
Dr light, Atom, pretty much every INDIAN, PAKI, ARAB, and russian character.
>>84419935
1) these are legacy characters not racebending
racebending would be changing the ethnicity of the character
2) racebending is more like what DC did to Wally West in the n52
Has the writer written anything good? Never read his books.
Saunders training a new vigilante looks promising af. I hope this continues as an ongoing or at least a backup.
>>84419621
Connor Hawke
>>84419935
Because this new one is not some SUPER GENIUS WHO GRADUATED FROM EVERY COLLEGE ON EARTH AND CAN MCGUYVER ANYTHING FROM A PIECE OF HER WEAVE
>>84420271
Doctor Light
Atom
Iris West II
>>84420523
>black
>>84420271
>>84420271
http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Asians
Americans will get triggered by that
>>84420540
So it's ok when tony stark can build something out of a box of scraps?
>>84419914
Yeah, he was a thing back in the 80's.
>>84420475
You know that when most people say Asian they mean east-Asian, not south Asian or cauc-asian.
>>84420440
Being born in a country doesn't make him ethnically from that country right?
Either way Azazel apparently is actually German without the mutation
>It's okay if DC does it
Kek
>>84420570
>what is biracial
>>84419363
>Failed NBA player
Fucking why. Why can't we just get a story about a kid raised in the ghetto becoming a superhero? Static's about the closest we've gotten to it.
>>84420571
That's a different debate, but I would say Tony's back story is retarded to begin with.
This is the replacement character versus legacy character debate all over again.
Replacement characters are rarely done well, especially with now an increased amount yielding little success.
Legacy character are done rarely, therefore a higher success rate.
He doesn't have electricity powers.
That's like saying that any cop who carries a taser has electricity powers.
>>84420634
He isnt biracial. Fucking americans, bi = 2
>>84420271
>Tsunami
>ToyMan 2.0 (a.k.a. the coolest concept no other writer will ever use again)
>Dr. Light
>>84419664
Venom blast counts as electric powers
>>84420591
depends on who his dad was. I don't know what Raven's nation of origin was, they ever cover who fathered Kurt?
>>84419935
Because it's not an obnxious ploy, and on top of it they're at least using it to create a new angle as opposed to just "He's black/female/Mexican/Asian ___! He/she is so much smarter and better and cooler than the lame white one!"
I hated black Wally West because of how obvious it was.
Not a fan of the mask, dig the jacket and boots though. Nightwing vibe, not bad.
>>84420629It is though.
>>84419935
Cause 50% of that is people getting pissed off at Marvel doing it in a ham-handed way or people getting pissed off at Wally West being erased from history and the other 50% of that is people that might just be trying to get Marvel attention.
Plus people probably don't care here because there's been like seven Vigilantes. There was the Golden Age one who was a singing cowboy, there was the 80's one who was a lawyer whose family was murdered,and it ended with him killing himself.But not before like two other people tried to take on the identityand died in their stories.And then there was the one in Deathstroke's series in the 90's or thereabouts. And then there was the obscure miniseries in the 00's about a new one in Metropolis, and then there was the one in Nightwing.
>>84420722
>Because it's not an obnxious ploy, and on top of it they're at least using it to create a new angle as opposed to just "He's black/female/Mexican/Asian ___! He/she is so much smarter and better and cooler than the lame white one!"
>I hated black Wally West because of how obvious it was.
But he never did anything that outshone old Wally before they introduced white Wally again
>>84420722
There's also the fact that an actual black guy is writing this and it's not just trying to score diversity points while having the same 5 white guys writing it.
>>84420662
Fine multiracial
>>84420655
It doesn't help that "genius young black girl in Iron Man power armor" was already done in Marvel, but Bendis doesn't know that and had to put in his Donut Steel.
>>84420808
That wouldn't have sparked enough controversy and her sales would have quickly plummeted.
Hahaha wow. I mean I know /co/ is full of DCfags but still, kek.
>>84420747
but he replaced the real Wally, a character who honestly does not deserve the amount of shit that gets thrown his way. Most of his accomplishments get erased and then he gets flat out replaced by a diversity stunt.
yeah it's 'Not Muh Wally' but when you literally replace a character with a couple decades of history with someone who has the same name and no similarities to the old one it becomes a legitimate complaint.
I don't even give a fuck about having a black speedster or wally losing a book to this hypothetical Dark Horse. I'm used to that kind of shit. But don't literally replace a character with one who has the same name, same costume, but no similarities to the old one.
>>84420747
That's not what he meant.
>Fans complain about wanting character to be back in the spotlight for years
>He returns
>Cheap synergy, no powers, no connection to the legacy, new personality that hinged on "trouble black kid" stereotype, no connection to friends, drastically deaged so he can never be friends with Dick or Donna again, new personality, potentially using Bart's name and not his own or the identity he spent twenty+ years making his own.
It felt like such a "fuck you" even when you bar the race change. It still pisses me off how it obviously showed zero respect to the original character.
>>84420644
In a lot of the worst ghettos, it's not exactly an uncommon belief that the only way out is to excel in sports. Having a shot at that and then failing and ended up right back where you started has a certain pathos to it.
>>84420839
honestly this Riri Williams thing is gonna be hilarious if she winds up on the sacrificial altar to sales during the next big "we need a quarterly bump" event.
>>84420808
Well, no one cares about War Machine. Everyone cares about Iron Man
>>84420808
maybe they meet and fuck
>>84419700
>Nightcrawler (his fur is black)
Are you color blind or something?
Nightcrawler is blue. Even in his first appearance he was blue.
>>84420891
But it just feels unnecessary to the story, especially tossing in NBA of all things. A low income kid living in the ghetto that has no praise going for him just feels like a missed opportunity to me, but who knows.
>>84421026
It's probably a ploy to get more readers. Kids identified with things that actually exist, like washed-out NBA players
>>84420574
And likeWild Dog, he was glorious.
>>84421026
The NBA thing is at least a bit more fresh than a normal ghetto kid
>>84420971
He's as blue as Spider-Mans costume.
As in he wasn't meant to be until colorists fucked it up
Are there any other vigilantes/heroes currently set in LA? I honestly can't think of one.
>>84420130
I did in the 90s when he wasn't just RDJ and was an actual character.
>>84421205
Currently, no.
Andreyko's Katehunter (which is getting a digital release soon) was set there and he lives there, so it got the details right.
>>84421251
you have shit taste tbqh
>>84419363
I thought that was Nightwing from the thumbnail.
This is apparently being edited by Veritgo's senior editor Jaime Rich, which made me a lot more interested since it makes it sound like this book might go pretty hard.
>>84419408
Mosaic's thing is that he was successful though, that's why he's supposed to be a self-absorbed asshole.
>>84419914
He was basically The Punisher taken to his logical conclusion.His series ends with him blowing his brains out realizing he had become just as terrible and brutal as the criminals he was fighting.
>>84421205
The MAX version of Foolkiller was.
>>84419999
Nice quads
>>84419481
Didn't Adrian Chase blew his brains or something?
Kinda be weird if they brought back Adrian Chase to train him. I love the character but it would be weird to resurrect someone after they literally blew their head out with a revolver in the last issue
>>84420271
I'm Asian and I think DC's been doing alright with diversity. I'd like more Asian A-listers, but I'd never support racebending existing characters or replacing them.
>>84421269
yfw Manhunter shows up in Vigilante and they hit it off like Simon and Jess
>>84421628
Yeah, my main wish is that they acknoledge the previous canon of the series. I want Chase to remain dead.
>>84419363
So Kendrick Lamar is a superhero now?
>>84419363
SO PROGRESSIVE!!
>>84421168
>Fresh
Name a ghetto superhero besides Static who who isn't super special somehow.
>>84419363
>black guy who fights with electricity
>dead girlfriend
Anyone want to take bets on the cliche that completes this hat trick?
>>84419387
>>84419395
WHY THE FUCK DO THEY KEEP GIVING THEM ELECTRICITY POWERS?!
>>84422136
>Vigilante is most well known for using guns
>can't give a black character called Vigilante guns unless you wanna incite accusations of racism
>give him tasers instead
You know the only reason I hate this is because Milestone and Static has been in limbo for about 2 years now
IT'S NOT FAIR
>>84420271
Almost every hero knows some kind of Martial Arts
>>84422292
This. He may become a great character but for a while I'm only going to see him as Not Static
>>84420226
>integrity
kek
>>84422361
This guys sounds like he's in his mid/late 20s I'm not sure why we keep making the comparison to Static.
Also he doesn't have electricity powers, for fuck's sake. It's just one of the weapons he uses. Like every other vigilante has something based around a taser.
>>84420278
>>84419465
He doesn't have electricity powers he has shock weapons. Like every gadget based character.
And cop.
>>84419408
and they used it like three times
so awkward
>>84422136
At this point there's got to be enough black-electric power character for them to form their own superteam. Or union.
Is this guy going to end up killing himself as well? Because everybody who takes the Vigilante mantle end up offing themselves eventually.
>>84421990
Not really. Are you just triggered by black people?
>>84422000
Name a superhero that isn't super special some how.
>>84419387
Plus he's wearing a ski mask.
>>84420044
Does Miles count since hes a kid? Plus i meant older heros. Because he looks just like Earth One Steve Trevor.
Also
>Arrow
>>84422117
>>84422136
>>84422268
This is a meme now. There aren't actually that many and half are technicalities. Storm and Static don't have "lighting powers" its more of a feature.
>>84422940
Nah Adrian was the only one who offed himself. One died in a battle against Adrian IIRC and anotherwas killed by Peacemaker.
>>84423264
It's a fun meme like Superman neck snap
>>84423264
>Storm and Static don't have "lighting powers" its more of a feature.
While that's true with Storm, Static's ENTIRE thing is electricity. Hell, it's even his name.
>>84419363
He looks like a redesigned black Nightwing
>>84419387
What's with DC and black people with Electricity
>>84423264
>>84424144
Don't forget Black Lightning and his daughter
>>84419580
How is Hal being handled by regular people?
>>84419426
I miss Greg Sanders cowboy Vigilante
>>84419363
>"The Vigilante: Southland" is the story of Donny Fairchild, a failed NBA player who's just making ends meet as a maintenance man.
That's a very similar origin to Wild Dog, no?
>>84422000
Luke Cage is pretty hood
>>84424374
What I thought too. His background seems to be a mix of Wild Dog's and Chase's
>>84419935
Considering the former Vigilante is dead, it's not like anyone is taking his spot. It's the same reason Michael Holt took up being Mr. Terrific after he stopped The Spectre from murdering the fuck out of some kids. Someones gotta take the name.
>>84424624
I wonder if that was intentional; you probably don't want to launch a young angry black man title under the 'Wild Dog' name in 2016. It sounds (maybe I'm reaching) like the character came first here, and they looked around for an appropriate legacy title. That's a good sign to me. He's also not based where the Vigilante or Wild Dog were - which is localization from the writer, and to me that's another good sign. I'm kind of interested in this.
>>84419363
>That mask
>>84419561
But both are black. What else would they play?
>>84419363
>not a cowboy
Fukken dropped.
>>84422136
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!
