Could any of the avengers beat him one-on-one if he has prep time?
>>84346931
Literally no one can defeat a well prepped Batman.
He admitted that Captain America would
>>84347005
That was without prep time and he admitted only that they seemed evenly matched
Only Batman could ever defeat Batman. Then the world ends.
Normies ruined Batman
>>84346931
Falcon.
Anthony Mackie's mother is called Martha.
>>84346931
Most of them given that he relies on big Achillies heels that Avengers tend to not have.
>>84347005
For fucks sake learn how to read.
Would =/= Could
>>84346931
With prep time? Nah. With prep time he defeated fucking desaad out of his fucking head, as for movie versions? Vision is the only one he would have serious problems.
>>84347014
>he admitted only that they seemed evenly matched
Batfag revisionists.
>>84346931
Reed Richards
>>84347289
Read the fucking comic you dumb ass pleb.
>>84347014
The guy doesnt the difference between could and would.
>>84346998
Bullshit.
batfags are such fucking cancer
>>84347385
Here is a (you) phoneposter
>>84346931
No.
>>84347385
Wow, are there any panels in comcs where Scott isn't being a giant douche?
>>84347339
He literally says that despite being on par it's very likely he'll lose if they continue. Do I have to go get the fucking page?
>>84347467
>He literally says that despite being on par it's very likely he'll lose if they continue
What he says is that is "conceivable you could beat me, but it would take you a long time" You are a dumbass.
>>84347385
>He actually thinks there are Batfags on /co/
>>84346931
I'm not sure what he could do about the Hulk. The Hulk doesn't have any exploitable weaknesses to plan around and capitalize on. Even containment cells and traps specifically designed for the purpose of holding the Hulk regularly fail in the Marvel universe.
I'm sure Batman could SURVIVE an engagement with the Hulk, as in avoiding hits and escaping. But nothing he has can hurt or stop the Hulk to any meaningful degree.
Vision would also provide a massive challenge to Batman, given the intangibility power.
I'm presuming, of course, that the writers don't just flat out give Batman a "Waynecorp protoype Press-this-Button-win-the-fight" prototype that just flat out takes their powers away or other cheesy contrived bullshit.
>>84347519
>but nothing he has can hurt or stop the Hulk to any meaningful degree.
MCU hulk is extremely weak m8. I agree with vision, but hulk is a joke.
Cap VS Batman is an interesting because they're so similarly yet opposite
Batman spent his entire life (or at least every moment from 8 years old on) to train to become what Cap is in terms of combat ability
Meanwhile Cap has spent his entire superhero career figuring out ways to survive and beat the exact kind of gimmickery that Batman uses to have an edge in most of his more heavily contested fights
I think the way that makes the most sense is that Batman could beat Cap if he's willing to kill him, which he'll never be, so... Cap wins.
>>84347467
Even claiming that they are on-par is wanking Batman's massive boner.
In a fight, Bruce's punches should barely faze Steven, while Steve's punches should fucking wreck Bruce in return. Bruce is peak human, but Captain America is superhuman.
When Batman jumps out of a plane, its because he is going to glide or bat-grapple to the ground.
When Captain America jumps out of a plane, its because he doesn't need a parachute. He is going to fall hundreds of feet, land just fine, and be ready to carry out the rest of the fight/mission.
>>84347519
Use knockout gas
Kick him in the solar plexus
Make Hulk breath
Knock him out
>>84347552
>human bean can knock the wind out of a monster like the hulk
>>84347528
I wasn't even talking MCU Hulk. I wasn't even aware we were stuck with the MCU team.
But fine, lets roll with that. Prove me wrong then. Show me something Batman has that can beat down Hulk with greater force than he already saw even MCU Hulk take?
Because I know Batman occasionally pulls out power armor, but that shit is hardly Hulk Buster tier. Or are you saying that Batman is a better Iron Man than Iron Man, he just forgets he has that with the exception of maybe two times in the last 60 years of comics?
>>84347540
>I think the way that makes the most sense is that Batman could beat Cap if he's willing to kill him, which he'll never be, so... Cap wins.
Nope.
>>84347585
>Batman is a better Iron Man than Iron Man
That's exactly what DC has been trying to say for the past 8 years or so
>>84347463
>"let's stop fighting and work together on the real threat"
>giant douche
???
>>84347609
>>"let's stop fighting and work together on the real threat"
Literally every Marvel and DC crossover.
>>84347606
>8
>>84347585
Hellbats can destroy Hulk,hell your average Luthor armor has more hit power than any iron man one.
>>84347552
This is 'Oh no, I DROPPED the cosmic cube!' tier.
Even discounting the fact that Batman kicking the Hulk is more likely to hurt his foot than make Hulk flinch, there are so many other ways this plan is bad.
If Hulk jumps or walks even 10 feet in any direction, he is fine.
If Hulk swaps Batman aside and shatters every bone in his body, he is fine.
If Hulks biology just neutralizes the poison like it does half the time people try to poison or gas him, he is fine. After all, if "gas him" was that easy an answer to the Hulk then he wouldn't be such a goddamn problem. The army could handle him easily, as long as he wasn't in a city surrounded by bystanders.
But I guess you are right. If the Hulk just STANDS THERE and does LITERALLY NOTHING and EVERYTHING COMES UP BATMAN, then yes I suppose Batman wins the fight.
>>84347594
I was imagining more of a 1v1 KO/submission-only rules fight and not a team battle to capture a cosmic doodad
>>84347622
Every team-ups for Marvel, really, at least until roughly 10 years ago when they choose that now heroes fight heroes for the sake of fighting other heroes
>>84347624
>your average Luthor armor has more hit power than any iron man one.
Bullshit. Lex Luthor isn't good at anything.
>>84347630
Do you think Batman would offer to suck Hulk's dick to let him win? Or just not to hurt him?
>>84347624
>>84347606
You keep not doing anything other than saying 'by dad can beat up your dad' without providing any evidence or examples of their fearsome power.
Surly if you are so confident that these guys can beat the Hulk so easily, we have at least a few panels of Batman crushing mountains into gravel or something. Maybe punching a dude so hard he is flung into outer space? SOME kind of feat that goes beyond the limits of even ordinary superstrength.
>>84347630
You never read a 70's hulk comic did you?
Hulk could manage bombs better than "nerve" attacks. But you are a hulkfag. Just shut up. Why can Superman fans give the victory to Spidey but hulkfags get so autistic about a character they KNOW was different back then.
>>84347624
Not that anon, but even then, why are we pitting regular Batman against only MCU Hulk and not regular Hulk.
>>84347662
He named hellbat
>>84347672
Nobody is talking about that Hulk though.
Why do people keep saying
"YEAH BATMAN COULD DO IT (if it was this specific weak ass Hulk)"
>>84347662
Really, beating the Hulk isn't that hard.
Batman just needs to get him to calm down. And we all know that kindness and understand is Batman's most deadly weapon.
>>84347676
I didnt, i put DCEU vs MCU, the guy asked for comics and the hellbat name came out.
>>84347691
But that hulk is the hulk from that fucking picture
>>84347585
>Because I know Batman occasionally pulls out power armor, but that shit is hardly Hulk Buster tier.
He can go shaggy man with hulk and the fight is over fairly quick
>>84346931
i fucking hate batman because everyone creams their pants thinking he is the fucking best at everything.
also prep time ruined absolutely everything.
>>84347680
And? The Hellbat suit has lost to strong dudes before (Darkseid tore chunks of it off with his bare hands) and while it makes Bruce stronger it doesn't make him all that much faster. Its can give him an energy attack, but nothing that seems more powerful than shit the Hulk handles anyway.
And lets not forget that using the Hellbat suit drains Batman's life energy and its explicitly can kill him if he uses it for too long. If Bruce brings the Hellbat suit to the fight, all Hulk has to do is use his absurd endurance to survive long enough for Batman's own armor to kill him.
Or are you give Batman a Motherbox too, so he can run away? Just how much high tech do you have to dump on batman before he can take a barely clothed Hulk?
Its also kind of funny that you have to resort to the Hellbat suit, something that Bruce Wayne explicitly cannot build or acquire himself. The entire rest of the Justice League have to lend their powers to its design, enchantment, and construction.
At that point you might as well have Batman call up the justice league and have THEM handle the Hulk for him, and cut out the middle man.
>>84347759
Are you comparing Hulk strenght to Darkseid's?
>>84347609
>"let's stop fighting and work together on the real threat"
>But first I'll shoot you with my laser eyes.
>>84347818
>implying in the previous page Batman wasn't attacking Cyclops like a spastic
>>84347837
Just read both comics, they are both great.
>>84347818
>asshole is attacking you
>use minimum force necessary to stop him so you can talk
>>84347796
World breaker pham.
>>84347906
BVS?
>>84347796
If Hulk can get in punching contests with Thanos he could do it with Darkseid too.
>>84347709
Yeah, and the guy who posted him posted it as if its relevant.
>>84347845
>>84347906
It's Cyclops. I'd punch Scott in a the jaw as soon as he started talking cause you know he's going to be a douche.
>>84347981
I'd punch your mom in the stomach as soon as she got pregnant if I'd known about you.
>>84347996
Wow, I'm sorry for offending your Golden Douche Cyclops boy.
When did the prep time meme even started?
>>84347991
>implying I'm wrong
>implying Darkseid is shit
Spiderman could, spidey sense is too OP
>>84348057
Casual
Hulk is strongest there is, he win by default.
>>84348076
He said prep time
>>84348089
Spiderman can dodge bullets using spidey sense, he can handle anything that batman uses against him
>>84348031
>everything i don't agree with is a meme
seems lefit
>>84348031
Dark Knight Returns.
When Batman's talking about all the money and time to make airborne Kryptonite.
>>84348137
I really became a meme.
Look at that picture with him and a Goku.
>>84346931
Fictional characters, anon, literally anything could happen.
>>84346998
Really?
Why's the Joker still running around?
>>84346931
>Could any of the avengers not beat him one-on-one even if he has prep time?
Nah
>>84347549
Batman has superior martial art prowess by an enormous margin and is no stranger to fighting people stronger and faster than him though.
>>84347519
Why can't he just knock him out with gas? Hulk isn't immune to breathing in hilarious amounts of sedatives is he?
>>84348076
>>84348109
In a straight fight I'd be tempted to agree but Spider-Man jobs to people much worse than Batman on a regular basis. And I say this as a huge Spider-Fag.
>>84346931
Marysue.
>>84346931
Spider-Man, given Spider-Man also has preptime.
>>84347540
The thing is, batman is not just a brawler. If you account for Everything, batman wins.
>>84348226
Moviefag please go
>>84348226
Hey smartass. Let me know when Joker actually defeats Batman, which is what anon was talking about.
Besides, Joker is still running around only because Batman allows it.
>>84348373
nah, batman is the king of prep-time. Spider-man also prepares well when he knows modus operandi of his opponent, but there is not much to know about batman in terms of strength/weakness. Spider-man could prepare against a gas bomb or someshit, but that's about it. Any more ellaborated plan, and he is done for.
>>84348226
Has Joker ever even once beat Batman in a fight?
>>84347014
...and that their time might be better spent trying to determine how the 2 universes had crossed over and who was responsible, what type of a threat it was, etc....
>>84347552
Knockout Gas doesn't exist.
A kick to the solar-plexus can still be sustained by a powerful diaphragm, and powerful muscles are kinda Hulks whole thing. This is fucking retarded.
>>84348109
God, the whole point of that is that he could fuck up the spidersense to overload his senses.
>>84348147
I get that you are a casual, but the prep time was a thing as early as the 60's
>>84348626
But you are wrong, batman beating the hulk is from 1981.
Tower of babel did nothing to change that. If anything Tower of Babel is more of a Batgod story (after all it was in the middle of Morrison-Kelly's run. DKR is is way more of a Prep-time story, brother eye is more of a prep time story. Stop talking so sure of shit when it's clearly you are wrong.
>>84347796
>>84348032
I don't think anybody's implying that at this point
it's canon
Movie Tony
>Literally this whole thread
>>84348421
This is the greatest thing I've ever seen
>>84348421
this picture is amazing
>>84348855
And i don't care about what you think. You are wrong. Tower of Babel is not as influential as you want to think, the think is you are a dumbass that spend his time in VS threads, and that's why you keep naming that shitty story. DKR and Morrison's Batgod are way more important than Waid's little story. Waid introduced the concept of STATIC plans to defend the world from a mind controlled league, nothing more, prior to that batman ALWAYS had files about the weaknesses, and ways to fight back, prep time had been a thing since the 50's, was a "meme" since the 60's show.
Tower of babel is not even about prep time.
>>84348226
Because Batman can't prep against the chaos that is the Joker, he has said so many times before.
He's too unpredictable.
>>84349005
Midnighter can read the joker
>>84349005
so Batman would lose to Speedball
interesting
>>84346931
Maybe Vision, maybe.
>>84347552
You kids don't remember how the Hulk was written in the 70s and early 80s, he wasn't the unstoppable force of nature he is today, he was basically a big bumbling oaf back then, kinda a green frankenstein's monster with Dr Frankenstein being played by "nuclear hubris". He routinely got his ass handed to him in his own comic and was being taken down with knockout gas in every third issue, Bats pulling this stunt wasn't seen as unlikely at the time when it'd just happened to the Hulk a half-dozen times in recent memory.
Of all things, Secret Wars really started the power creep when the Hulk was perceived as lifting a mountain range (he was wedging out a narrow opening, "only a hundred tons or so probably) but it began a gradual ramping up of his power. Byrne was truly responsible for shifting him from Frankensteins Monster to humanoid Godzilla. And then, of course, Worldbreaker...
lets round up out contestants for "batman but with actual powers" show.
First we have Cyclops aka "I have more plans than the alphabet has letters"!
Second we have Black Panther with "my rich guy power is the size and scope of an entire nation of super scientists"!
Last we have Moon Knight and his "I'm so crazy the word crazy has no meaning anymore"!
>>84347796
Hulk once used his hands to fuse tectonic plates and hold a planet together. He punched so hard his fist broke the space/time barrier and hit a nigga in the future.
And sorry folks if you get to bring up hellbat armor, worldbreaker hulk is on the table.
>>84349165
We all read those comics.
>>84349216
>I'm talking about the fact people think he can beat anyone using prep time came from Tower of Babel,
But it didnt, that has been a thing for DECADES. Also prep time batman =/= Batgod.
how does Batman make sense in a world full of other supers?
If Gotham was so full of crime, why were the world's supers ignoring it to the point where a normie had to step in? If there are other supers, why would they let a normie risk his life night after night?
>Could any of the avengers beat him one-on-one
Well, several could just--
>if he has prep time?
Ah; then no.
>>84349121
Batman isn't secretly in love with Speedball so no
>>84348406
>Let me know when Joker actually defeats Batman, which is what anon was talking about.
Every single time, actually. Every time the Joker does something, he kills robins, cripples gingers, makes people crazy, causes property damage, etc. Every time Bats beats up the Joker he... sends him to Arkham, which will hold him maybe a day or two if he has nothing better to do on the weekend. Or lets him exit the stage by falling off a cliff or something which never killed anyone, ever. Over their respective careers Joker has absolutely destroyed Batman, because he has dealt absurd amounts of damage while the latter is for some reason convinced that you can just lock him up again and everything will be fine this time he totally won't get out I pinky swear.
>>84349005
>Because Batman can't prep against the chaos that is the Joker
Yes he can read the Joker and he already did it.
And even when not, the Joker is a guy without any powers. Batman still can punch and capture him, there should be no problems.
>>84349290
Read comics. Also Alan Scott is Gotham super.powered hero
So what's the best preptime Bats you've read?
I think I'd have to go with the Superman fight in that bonus issue of New Frontier. Batman stages the fight in a car junkyard so Supes can't see because it's the fifties and the cars all have lead paint. It ends with him about to put Supes in a lead box with kryptonite when Wonder Woman shows up and defuses the situation.
>>84349366
>the Joker is a guy without any powers
But that is wrong
>>84349484
>I think I'd have to go with the Superman fight in that bonus issue of New Frontier.
That fight was amazing, The whole Motorcycle part was great i have no doubts Snyder took inspiration from that fight. My favorite preptime moment is probably Red Son using the red sun lamps.
>thor
>spiderman
>hulk
>hyperion
>captain marvel
>black panther
Anyone who deals with people exploiting their weaknesses before or is too powerful to do so in time, batman can only go against superman because every time clark is holding back
>>84347540
Hand-to-hand, Cap wins eventually, no argument
Batgadgets vs Cap and shield? Batman wins. Don't delude yourself
>>84347672
>Why can Superman fans give the victory to Spidey
But that's wrong. Spidey would destroy Batman though
>>84346931
depends on if it's a lethal fight or not
>>84347672
>Why can Superman fans give the victory to Spidey
The heck? That fight actually happened, you know. All we got is that Spidey tried to go oraoraora on Supes and stopped after nearly breaking both his hands, and then they skipped directly to the teamup part of the comic.
>>84346931
Batman is overrated
How does Batman fight against a guy with a bit of poo on his hands and keeps trying to touch him?
>>84349502
You're right. He has the power of faggotness.
>>84346931
Bruce could not beat Steve
Bruce believes in Steve
That's why the Batman exhists
>>84346931
MCU? Thor, perhaps.
>>84347005
He admitted that if they continued to fight hand-to-hand Cap would eventually beat him. If Batman were to fight Cap like he were a villain, Cap wouldn't stand a chance. Batman has gadgets.
>>84352346
Steve isnt a boyscout in the DC universe.
>>84352339
Poison blood, fast regeneration and being inmune to toxins, being resistent to pain are powers m8.
>>84352393
Right, faggotness.
>>84352388
>He admitted that if they continued to fight hand-to-hand Cap would eventually beat him.
God, not another retard. read the page you idiot.
>>84352393
You forgot he has a totally rapable clown hole.
>>84348421
>>84348759
>>84348854
Yeah that pic is pretty great.
>>84349484
Red Son with the red sun lamps. Batman would have won if it weren't for Wonder Woman.
>>84352703
It was a really tense fight, and one of the few where both batman and superman are on the right
>>84347540
In a hand to hand fight Cap really should win in about 10 seconds given that he's a super soldier.
>>84349337
Lol, never truly defeated batman himself :^)
>>84347385
Not even with prep time can Batman prove Rightclops wrong.
>>84348332
He pulls his punches.
>>84347837
What if Spidey fought the earliest incarnation of Superman, back when he couldn't even fly?
>>84347234underrated
>>84346931
Batgod wins
Could Batman defeat someone who could only be defeated by having sex with his villains?
>>84347234
That's good.
>>84346931
Iron Man and the Hulk could take down BvS Bats in literally seconds.
Batman:
>hurr durr if I want to fight in a metal suit I have lift a bunch of weights, I SUFFER FOR MY ART
Iron Man:
>but what if I put motors in
>10x more punching strength + anti-tank missiles
>>84349336
>secretly
anon...
>>84346931
Yes, because the other guys get prep time, too.
