Almost this whole final battle sucked.
>>84320225
Honestly, I thought the actual Batman Superman fight was the single worst fight scene in Snyder's history.
It genuinely felt like a CW fight in some parts, particularly when they're just throwing punches at each other on the rooftop.
>>84320225
Is that supposed to be Doomsday?
the action in this movie was weak sauce. which is fucking shocking.
like snyder was good at one thing and he even fucked that up. the final battle was a CGI mess.
>>84320297
bizarro/doomsday/superboy
>>84320225
Minus the warehouse takedown with Batman, all the action scenes were lackluster at best.
>>84320225
All of it was great. The whole movie was awesome. Too good for this world. Thank you, Zack Snyder.
>>84320301
This. Thank you.
I was legitimately looking forward to the action at the very least. Walked away from the movie feeling like most of the action sequences were alright at best, and that's if you don't think about how often Batman kills people.
>>84320320
Just realized a short while ago, there's a bit of the Parasite in there as well since there's some energy absorption/manipulation too.
Which isn't even really accurate to the source material.
>>84320353
I know, right? There wasn't much action in this movie at all desu.
I don't know if it was just the feeling of the extended cut, which is the only version I've seen, but it was shockingly light on actual action scenes.
>>84320225
Remember when Hulk had a better fight, against a better (but similar) enemy?
And even though he was a barely-controllable Rage Monster, the Hulkdidn't kill anyone in the entire picture?
>>84320398
>I don't know if it was just the feeling of the extended cut, which is the only version I've seen, but it was shockingly light on actual action scenes.
I haven't seen the extended version yet but that's how I felt about the theatrical version as well and that shit had 30 minutes of less screen time.
Honestly I really hope JL is more action-packed and that Snyder gets his shit together for action scenes. Because BvS was actually not really that good.
>>84320225
its almost like Zach Synder listened to the complaints, tried his best, and still failed
>>84320225
Would suck his spiked penis while he bellows and hisses though
The thing was there was no real stakes in the BvS fight. None of the punches felt real or weighty. They had no real relationship prior to the fight so nothing was really at stake. I really wish someone at WB told Terrio/Goyer/Snyder the innate faults of the script and movie.
This is what Civil War did better, the fight felt like it had some weight, both emotionally and physically.
>>84320225
I actually liked it out of context, exactly how I imagined a Trinity v Doomsday fight to go, but in context it was pretty weightless. However when Doomsday first pooped out of the cocoon and his little pre nuke rampage he did feel immensely threatening and extremely powerful.
Also thedeathscene in the extended cut had some more weight since Superman was an actual fucking character in the extended version, although it was still pretty damned hamfisted.
Extended cut isn't a bad movie but it was an utterly retarded way to do the characters.
>>84320580
My problem is that they actually do build up the tension between bats and Supes in the extended cut, but it gets thrown away becasue Lex still fucking just blackmails him into doing it so it becomes pointless.
>>84320580
bait
>>84320436
Only because Betty stopped him.
He was more than willing to crush Abomination's neck (or ribcage. It's been years since I saw that) with his foot.
>>84320580
MARTHA?
>>84320698
WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME!?
>>84320580
>This is what Civil War did better, the fight felt like it had some weight, both emotionally and physically.
Snyderfags will try to argue otherwise but CW worked better because they actually took the time to develop the universe, characters, and their relationships with one another before having a superhero vs. superhero movie.
>>84320661
How is it bait, he's completely right.
Meanwhile when Tony and Cap come to blows its literally the climax of a relationship that's been around for four years already, built upon Tony's daddy issues that were established in Iron Man 2.
Plus the fight itself was genuinely tense, unlike BvS.
Shit, that shot where Tony thinks Cap is about to cave his face in? That right there has more emotional connection that anything in Batman & Superman's interactions.
>>84320681
>willing to crush Abomination's neck (or ribcage. It's been years since I saw that)
I think he was going to choke him to death with that chain.
>>84320747
funny thing is it didnt take that fucking long. you knew the stakes for everyone involved. Black Panther lost his father, cap has been right everytime the government has questioned him, tony was overcompensating for sins past, nearly lost his best friend in the process of that fight, and holy shit the reveal about bucky killing tony's parents, even though you knew it was coming, had fucking emotional weight. cap is not 100% for not disclosing that with tony. everyone was fucking justified in some way, and no one came away clean.
why did superman sacrifice himself again? why was that needed? i understood batman's motivations but at the same time it was like copy pasted in a crazy way with lex so that got lost in the mix.
>>84320580
holy fuck are you actually serious?
>>84320580
Though I liked CW much better theatrical version your post is 100% bait or just dense. Snyder's fights are always best fights cinema ever had.
>>84320870
That's certainly an opinion.
have a (You).
>>84320859
>>84320870
master bait
There were so many other options Snyder could have gone for in the third act that would have had some level of emotional resonance.
I remember seeing Scoot MacNairy in the set photos and thinking how perfect he would be from Metallo. Luthor turning him into a cyborg reto-fitted with Kryptonian tech and letting his insane grief drive him would have both fit in thematically with Superman's mistakes coming back to haunt him and would have kept Bruce naturally ingrained into the plot.
>>84320870
The fights in BvS were all crap. Even the Batman warehouse fight everyone jizzed over, it was just as empty as the rest of them and Snyder couldn't even give Bats a fight scene with the one fucking villain he set up organically in the narrative.
>>84320870
Yes I am. Any particular points you want to argue with me?
>>84320870
Best how? Visually, sure maybe. But in terms of emotional weight or stakes? No fucking way, at least personally.
>>84320834
Because it was only way to kill Doomsday? WW holding him with lasso, Batman isn't superpowered at all. What else do you want?
It like questioning why Vision shot War Hammer.
>>84320917
>I remember seeing Scoot MacNairy in the set photos and thinking how perfect he would be from Metallo. Luthor turning him into a cyborg reto-fitted with Kryptonian tech and letting his insane grief drive him would have both fit in thematically with Superman's mistakes coming back to haunt him and would have kept Bruce naturally ingrained into the plot.
yeah what the fuck was that actor doing there if he wasn't going to have a bigger part?
>>84320921
You just forgot to add "personally" in your previous posts.
>>84320940
It still feels super contrived that Doomsday was able to kill Superman though.
>>84320225
It was a gigantic and incoherent clusterfuck of bad CGI.
Seriously, what has happened with CGI in the last years?
Why has it gotten worse?
>>84320952
>yeah what the fuck was that actor doing there if he wasn't going to have a bigger part?
To prove that even an actor as talented as MacNairy becomes complete shit when given to Snyder.
>>84321018
Doomsday kills Superman, that's like all Doomsdays do.
It is like questioning why does Captain America needs shield.
>>84321022
Comparing to what ?
>>84321022
Instead of thoughtfully crafting a scene and using cgi to enhance the scene, there's a greater reliance on just doing it all as cgi. I'm going to be honest, most of the transformers movies and fast and furious movies look better than that last final battle of Browns and oranges.
>>84320653
>Lex still fucking just blackmails him into doing it so it becomes pointless.
Supes wasn't fighting Batman because Lex told him too, he was trying to convince Batman to stop fighting.
>>84321022
I bet you're one of those "CGI experts" online who said BB8 looked like "bad CGI" before it was revealed to be practical.
>>84321096
Transformers 3 and Iron Man 1 and 2.
I think it's the problem of doing 100% CGI scenes and hiring shitty korean studios instead of ILM.
I mean, Marvel hired them to make the AoS CGI for this episode.
>>84321078
>Doomsday kills Superman, that's like all Doomsdays do.
>Superman stabs him with the Kryptonite spear
>instead of just dying right away, Doomsday impales him with his spike before finally dying
Ok.
>>84321078
Doomsday did not need to be in the movie when the headliner was supposed to be batman vs superman.
>>84321109
No, i'm a CGI expert who thinks pic related looks like a fucking videogame.
>>84320772
>climax of a relationship that's been around for four years already
Yeah, a couple of scenes of them not liking each other= epic relationship!
''Cap almost cuts Iron Man's head! The emotional connection of almost murder! is not just a loud and dumb fight scene, I swear.
>>84321096
>>84321109
Davy Jones from Pirates of the Caribbean looked better than Doomsday.
Don't know why CGI is going backwards.
>>84321115
>>84321115
>Transformers 3 and Iron Man 1 and 2.
Daredevil itt! Get the Hell out of Hell's Kitchen!
>>84321130
When the hell will everyone ditch the shaky cam?
I know it's supposed to make it feel ''powerful'', but even fucking Michael Bay managed to make punches and fights feel powerful without having Michael J. Fox holding the camera.
>>84320225
The whole FUCKING MOVIE sucked
>>84321130
It clearly doesn't.
>>84321145
Nope.
>>84321177
It clearly does.
Look at this, it even has that ''tick'' from a lot of Unreal Engine 3 games where light outlines characters.
IS IT TOO SOON?
AM I TOO SOON TO PLUG MY MOVIE?
BRUCE, YOU HAVE TO FIND THE JUSTICE LEAGUE: PART 1
>>84321195
No.
>>84321177
>>84321192
>>84321219
Snyder, please.
>>84321226
>CGI costumes
No.
Seriously, if your CGI isn't good enough, why do it?
Civil War and MoS suffered from the floaty head meme.
If your CGI is not good enough, don't overuse it.
Or just hire ILM or something, I mean, it's not like these are cheap movies.
>>84321226
Is this the power of the PS4??
>>84321226
>Supes face when he looks up at Zod
ayy
>>84321226
>Supes takes a punch in the ribs without so much as flinching
>a car falling on him distracts him enough for Zod to get an edge
Or at least I think that's what's happening. There's so much shit going on, who thought that looked good?
>>84321226
>that shot of him looking up
my sides will never be the same
>>84321301
Did he have to have CGI hair???
>>84320870
But they aren't, his fight scenes and fight choreography are overrated as fuck. The Batman vs Superman fight was the most stupidest shit that has been put in a major blockbuster in a long time. The way Superman doesn't dodge the absolute fuck out of the second kyrpto bullet was bullshit.
>>84321267
Audience is too forgiving nowadays.
I mean, Pirates of the Caribbean is a Disney movie, and they had Hans Zimmer doing the soundtrack, ILM making ALL the CGI in the movie, not just faces like they do mostly nowadays, and on top of that it was shot beautifully.
It's a shame the cinematic universe thing didn't begin back in 2002 or so.
>>84320225
Worst part of the movie IMO. I probably would be more excited to watch the Ultimate Edition if I didn't know I'd have to sit through that fight again.
>>84321130
I actually completely disagree with that. Man of Steel had WAY better action scenes than this. What the fuck happened? The Smallivlle fight was fucking fantastic.
>>84321115
Looks like the love child of Thrax and Kit Fisto.
>>84321208
That mask is fucking CG
>>84321167
Shakey cam is good when it contrasts with the rest of the movie. That is to say, it contrasts well with when there is no shakey cam. Say what you will about ATLA but the shakey cam when the dragons come out in the cartoon felt other worldly and powerful because literally the rest of the series had no shakey cam.
>>84321315
Millions were spent to make Cavill look less balding.
Why was Wonder Woman the only one who put a decent fight against Doomsday?
>>84321226
It looks just perfect.
Costume isn't cgi.
>>84321325
Why would he be able to dodge it when he hadn't fully recovered from the last one?
>>84321392
He'd recovered enough to tank batman's suit punches without flinching but he's not fast enough to not let Batman load his gun and hit him with a fucking pellet?
>>84321226
Holy shit somebody make a gif of superman's "look up face"
>>84321386
Because the Doomsday fight was when they remember they needed to give the audience any reason at all to care about Wonder Woman
>>84321226
>>84321195
>>84321130
>>84321130
Man, George Miller can't make another Mad Max movie fast enough.
>>84321392
>answers to bait
Whatever happened to anon of /co/
>>84321388
>Costume isn't cgi.
Zod's costume is.
Can someone post that pic of Shannon in the grey CGI tracking suit inside a capsule or something?
>>84321386
Did you miss the part where Superman was punching him into orbit before he got nuked?
>>84321406
Tanking a bat fist doesn't mean he's fully recovered and can move faster than a bullet.
I swear you faggots go out of your way to make up reasons to get mad at shit when there's already actual things in the movie to be mad at.
>>84321388
>DCucks defending this
My fucking sides, this is now laughingevans.gif general
>>84321406
Yes.
>>84321325
But the kitchen sink tho!
>>84321428
>it's muh company war episode
Ayy, dude, go get them!
>>84321425
It wasn't a bullet though, the speed at which Superman forced Batman through a wall after the first kryptonite gas wore off was faster than the grenade launcher, there was no reason he couldn't have dodged the second.
It's kind of dumb that Batman had to monologue like a Bond villain. What's the point of lecturing the alien on what it means to be a man if he's just going to kill him anyway?
>>84321100
It was fucking stupid.
>Hey, listen, stop fighting man we can be pals
>Maybe if I punch you and throw you one yard away, you'll calm down and listen
>I'm Superman
>>84321514
That speech about how "You were never even a man" sounded more like something Luthor would say than Batman.
>>84320273
Civil War or CW the channel?
>>84321120
If that's the ending they wanted It would have been better if Lex used the Kryptonian Tech and DNA to change General Eiling into the final boss fight. But maybe that goes against there deal with the army and maybe it's to much of a direct copy of what they did with Blonsky and Abomination, but it fits better.
>>84321567
Oh fuck, that would've been fucking badass.
Too bad Snyder doesn't actually read comic books.
>>84321471
Bullshit. An average grenade travels at 250 m/s when fired from a muzzle. There is no way Supes threw Bats that hard through the wall. Bats would have kept going through multiple walls at that speed.
Plus Superman was in midair launching himself towards Batman. He didn't seem to have his flight powers back so their is no way he could have dodged it while in midair.
Congratulations, we've devolved into autistic levels of nitpicking.
>>84321626
>He didn't seem to have his flight powers back so their is no way he could have dodged it while in midair.
Literally the first thing he does after the first Kryptonite gas wears off is fly
>>84320580
>The thing was there was no real stakes in the BvS fight. None of the punches felt real or weighty. They had no real relationship prior to the fight so nothing was really at stake. I really wish someone at WB told Terrio/Goyer/Snyder the innate faults of the script and movie.
Yes
>This is what Civil War did better, the fight felt like it had some weight, both emotionally and physically.
Haha fuck no
>>84321130
but this is awesome.
>>84321702
He is fly very slow
>>84321924
It certainly is a wonderful fight. You can tell this thread is mostly populated by /tv/ because /co/ should be the last place that nitpicks CG animation.
>>84321514
Because he was actually a villain before Martha-name resonated as he realized the monster he became.
>>84321542
That's just like comic books work.
>>84320225
It was also slower and much less spectacular than MoS Superman vs. Zod.
>>84320225
I loved this fight and re-watch it from time to time, it had so many great parts.
>Doomsday looking at supermans monument and then at superman
>superman pushing Doomsday into space and getting nuked
>dat "oh god.."moment when Batman realizes they used a nuke on superman
>Doomsday trashing WW and Superman
>dat team takedown
>dat laser duel
>dat final superman scream while killing Doomsday
Doomsday was such a one-dimensional character and I wish they didn't use all the flashy effects on Doomsday but the whole fight seemed so amazing and unreal, of course it used a lot of CGI but how else would you do a superman fight, practical effects would look akward, slow-paced and less dynamic, WW, superman and Batman also worked great together without talking much or even knowing each other, they were very effective and took their turn when they saw fit and didn't in the way of one another.
>>84322095
all the fights were fine, the only thing i had a problem with was superman's first encounter with doomsday was WAY too short
dooms smashing superman into his own statue was fantastic
>>84322095
heat vision duel was better than the entire final fight in civil war
>>84322173
Your terrible taste must be such a burden.
>>84322095
I like that they included the relatively new Kryptonian solar flare power with Doomsday, where he discharges the energy stored in his cells all at once. It wasn't just an OC power they gave him.
>>84322095
Almost the entirety of it was underwhelming. The pacing of the whole fight is garbage and for being such a big fight, it's still over relatively quickly. Not much actually happens.
Seems like whenever something happens and some shit goes down, we cut away from the action for about a minute or so to see other things. You see this when Doomsday first wakes up and when he's about to get nuked. But that can be forgiven since that's not the real fight, right? But when the actual fight starts, you STILL get that bullshit. The pacing is so fucked up. It takes awhile for the fight to get started in the first place, then right in the middle of it, the action cuts to Lois Lane in peril multiple times and after the admittedly cool heat vision duel, there's the long pause where Superman realizes Lois Lane is in trouble and he zooms off to go save her. There's no sense of the action really taking off and escalation there when the movie cockteases us constantly then never truly delivers us with any real memorable fights.
This is a far cry from Man of Steel with the Smallville fight, which had a bunch of memorable, "Holy shit!" moments and consistent pacing that never felt like the action was being put on pause.
>>84322192
I didn't like the final fight of CW either, mainly because Cap shouldn't have a chance against Iron Man, even Spider-man stopped Buckys Metal Arm which is as strong as cap, yet spider-man did struggle with the weight of a container, meanwhile Iron Man took a hit from a tank and War Machine actually did lift a tank and he should be as strong as ironman.
also Cap seemed so unfaced and calm about everything, you only felt the impact of the whole situation on Iron Man, RDJ really out-played Evans which made Evan seems more wooden. The last moment where Cap gets the last hit was also even less suspensefull because you knew Cap wouldn't do it anyway, the other way around would've been better because Iron Man was emotional enough to maybe go through with it.
>>84322192
nah its great you're just a faggot
>MUH BUCKY
>>84322278
>guy gets thrown out of cockpit and disintegrates
>>84322278
i thought all the doomsday stuff was fine but it definitely didn't hold a candle to the smallvile stuff.
>>84320747
Can't argue with the truth. The intro for flash, aqualad,cyborg sucked donkey dick
>>84322278
Samefag here. Fuck it, what I DID like about the battle:
>WW jumping in out of nowhere to save Batman by reflecting Doomsday's heat vision thing with her bracelets
>the thing she did right afterward where she clashed both of them together to create a shockwave (speaking of, how the fuck was Batman not affected by that?)
>WW not being completely useless
>the aforementioned heat vision duel
>some of the fight was admittedly pretty cool and seemed almost animesque at times
Also what I forgot to mention was how altogether short it was. If you took out the scenes where Lois Lane was in danger, it'd be over in about a couple of minutes, if even that, and again, NOT MUCH ACTUALLY HAPPENS IN THE FIGHT.
Meanwhile, the Smallville fight was a better catharsis because people had been wanting to see a big superhero brawl in a Superman movie for quite some time and it also depicted some superpowers like super speed in a manner that was accurate to the comic books, which NO ONE saw coming. There was also proper buildup and when the fight actually started, there were no real pauses there. It was also about four minutes long or so, meaning a fight scene in the middle of MoS lasting longer than this one did. And then the Zod fight in the same movie was altogether like 5-7 minutes long.
What the fuck happened here? Did their budget run out or something?
>>84322286
>also Cap seemed so unfaced and calm about everything
This is incorrect though, Cap was just more focused on keeping Bucky alive, when he's smashing Iron Man's armor with shield you can see the emotion.
>The last moment where Cap gets the last hit was also even less suspensefull because you knew Cap wouldn't do it anyway, the other way around would've been better because Iron Man was emotional enough to maybe go through with it.
Iron Man did not even once pretend he was willing to kill Steve to get to Bucky, they were both fighting with the same amount of brutality so I don't get your point here.
>>84322327
I didn't say it was bad, I'm just saying you have bad taste if you think the final BvS fight is in anyway better than the final Civil War fight.
>>84320580
This. Civil War was better developed
>>84322278
the cuts were a little of a letdown, I didn't care much about Lois anyway but I feel like it'd be way too overwhelming otherwise, specially with all the Doomsday effects and 3D in cinema, it would be way too heavy on the eyes.
Overall the fights in MoS and BvS really show that WB can come close to the comic powerlevels in terms of 1v1 combat but also the fight between gods/monsters.
>>84320940
>WW holding him with lasso
But why? That was fucking dumb, it's not like Doomsday was running from them, he was actively fighting them, so why was holding him in place while he thankfully does nothing but stand there necessary?
>>84322342
Anon, that was his gray matter flying everywhere after the Kryptonian popped his head in his bare hands.
>>84322414
For as much shit as I give this fight and BvS, WW holding Doomsday was pretty necessary for Batman to hit him with the Kryptonite grenade. Had to hold him steady somehow. Remember, Doomsday still had Superman-levels of super speed and reflexes.
>>84320225
BvS sucked in general. It was a clusterfuck.
>>84322362
They should have played those alongside the credits.
>>84322463
That would've been way better than just shoehorning that shit into the movie.
>>84322459
The worst part is that Marvelfags and casuals will just assume that DC sucks when that's not even remotely true. Snyder and WB are just that fucking incompetent.
>>84322286
You are wrong.
He was get hit from tank in shoulder plate, one of MOST armoured part of his suit. Bullets from machine guns teared him just fine.
Second, Cap and Bucky only cracked his arcreactor and repulsor, which gets fucked up in almost every movie since IM 1
>>84320747
except when they knew and trusted each other for so long, they should even have less reason to fight against each other, with superman and Batman it made sense because they don't know and trust each other, also bringing superman down is like getting rid of the most dangerous weapon in the world, it doesn't matter if he is trustworthy now, that doesn't mean he can be trusted later.
>>84322458
Doomsday was literally standing still doing nothing when Wonder Woman decided to lasso him, and then Bruce kryptonite gasses him literally (as in I actually counted) 11 seconds later. It was unnecessary.
>>84322482
you think you take only damage at the part where you get hit with the bullet of a tank? also remember whiplash and his whips that could cut through steel?, they didn't do much damage to ironmans suit either and it was his small portable suit, even his thin ass metal glove stoped a bullet.
>>84322463
They can't copy Marvel and have credit scenes. Got to shove those into the middle of the movie.
>>84322556
Also Wanda throwing several cars at him and he was fine right after.
>>84322515
How was Superman going to impale Doomsday if he wasn't immobilized? Superman wouldn't be able to get near him because he was weak from the kryptonite. Doomsday just would have sidestepped him. Or do you think he would have just stood completely still in place for no reason?
>>84322515
So? It's not like he couldn't have just jumped away at literally any moment. They literally only had one shot at weakening him, they had to make sure they could get that shot off. WW restraining him with the lasso was literally exactly what they needed.
>>84322556
Watch final fight in IM 1.
>>84320436
What about those guys in the beginning?
And he fucked Bronski straight up.
>>84322584
>How was Superman going to impale Doomsday if he wasn't immobilized?
By stabbing Doomsday who was just standing there.
>Superman wouldn't be able to get near him because he was weak from the kryptonite.
He got there pretty fast.
> Doomsday just would have sidestepped him.
Why didn't he sidestep the lasso?
>Or do you think he would have just stood completely still in place for no reason?
He did for Wonder Woman.
>>84322601
>It's not like he couldn't have just jumped away at literally any moment.
He didn't jump out of the way of the lasso.
>WW restraining him with the lasso was literally exactly what they needed.
It did nothing but make Doomsday pay more attention to them.
>>84322463
Yeah, one of those things were someone is looking into meta humans after all the shit that went down and these videos pop up
>>84322626
I can't argue with you because all your points are based on your own feelings and you assume you know everything the characters would do in the fight while ignoring basic logic.
>hurr durr he'd just stand still and let himself get stabbed
Just how desperate are you to hate this movie?
>>84322380
>Iron Man did not even once pretend he was willing to kill Steve to get to Bucky
Then there is no point IronMan being emotional if he is still able to hold back
>they were both fighting with the same amount of brutality so I don't get your point here.
which is not true, ironman has a lot of lethal weapons on his armor, he could and should be able to kill Bucky very easily, yet they wrote the whole thing like Cap was somehow able to stop him, which made it seem like IronMan was holding back even more than Cap.
The whole fight is pointless if everyone is holding back, where is the suspense in that?.
>>84322659
Why did he stand still and let himself get lassoed? After getting lassoed why did he just stand in place trying to free his arms instead of actually moving from where he is? It was fucking stupid and you're stupid for trying to defend it.
>>84322662
Same thing >>84322659
/co/ is becoming dense and retarded.
>>84322662
>Then there is no point IronMan being emotional if he is still able to hold back
Why?
>which is not true, ironman has a lot of lethal weapons on his armor, he could and should be able to kill Bucky very easily, yet they wrote the whole thing like Cap was somehow able to stop him, which made it seem like IronMan was holding back even more than Cap.
He shot a missile at him, blew his arm off, kicked the shit out of him, and at the very fucking beginning he tried to blast his face off.
>The whole fight is pointless if everyone is holding back, where is the suspense in that?.
They both got more brutal in trying to stop each other as the fight went on, Tony tried to end it fast but Steve kept getting in his way, Tony starts fighting harder, Steve starts fighting harder, things fucking ESCALATE to where you think even though they don't WANT to kill each other they MIGHT.
Do you not understand how escalation works?
>>84322686
Name calling others after you admitted to autistically counting the number of seconds between WW lassoing and Bat's batgrenade doesn't reflect well on you.
If you weren't so focused at finding flaws where none existed and actually watched the scene with a clear head you would have noticed that Doomsday was about to discharge another solar blast and wasn't paying attention to WW when she lassoed him. He was then defused and weakened just enough by the kryptonite grenade to allow WW to hold him long enough for Superman to get there who was going extreme slow by Kryptonian standards.
>>84322780
>allow WW to hold him
He didn't try to leave, he just wanted his arms free, also what he was doing goes against the mad monster we have been shown that just charges at literally any living thing in the area, but Wonder Woman lassos him? Shit, he can't fucking do anything now can he? Lassoing him did absolutely nothing because he just STOOD THERE. You'd have a point if after being Kryptonite gassed he tries going after Bruce, but he doesn't, he just stands there soaking up that poisonous goodness like he fucking loves it and then Superman comes at him head on.
Why didn't Doomsday just sidestep then? Being lassoed couldn't stop him from just stepping to his left or right, but he takes the Kryptonite spear to the chest like a man anyways, why? The whole thing was fucking retarded and you know it.
>>84322842
Yes, Anon. I know it's retarded. That's why I've spent several posts explaining to you, quite rationally, why it isn't retarded. It was all an elaborate troll I pulled over on you...
He was lassoed by WW and weakened by Kryptonite which made him sluggish. It makes perfect sense. I have nothing else to say.
>>84322884
But Wonder Woman didn't NEED to lasso him is the point I'm trying to get across. Did lassoing him make him stop charging up? Because until he gets Kryptonite gassed he still looks like he's still building up his electric bullshit. I don't get what you're trying to say.
What makes you think Doomsday needed to be lassoed when I've clearly explained why he didn't need to be? He gets gassed and looks directly at Superman as he charges at him but does nothing, there was no reason he couldn't dodge that so why didn't he? If the gas made him to weak to do that then why was he able to free his arms from the lasso something he couldn't do before the gas? Why did he have enough strength to do that but not just step to the side? Why do you keep defending something that makes no sense?
Apologize.
BvS is true cape kinó
>>84322940
and yet again, the director's cut edition brought BvS from the most hated to divisive like any other Snyder movie.
>>84321544
>That speech about how "You were never even a man" sounded more like something Luthor would say than Batman.
Do people defending BvS still try to say it's the superior comic movie for true fans of comics, because of all the references? I haven't been in one in awhile.
Things like this don't make sense, or make even less sense than they originally did, if you just throw a bunch of comic moments into a blender and slap them onto the screen.
>>84322907
You are not in my flight plane (smashing him thru the wall)
>>84323000
Man of Steel was great without it.
>>84323106
it was divisive nevertheless.
>>84321130
>when you fuck up all the quick time events.webm
Was Supes punching a guy through walls in BvS anything like Tony punching the first guy in this?
https://youtu.be/DTqa-NEwUbs
>>84323126
how people think Cap could stop IronMan from killing Bucky is beyond me.
>>84323189
I'm pretty sure Tony was at least subconsciously not trying to kill Bucky, could have unibeamed him several times, mostly wanted to beat him silly and break the arm Hydra made him I suppose.
>>84320225
it did
which was really surprising given that the MoS fight scenes were great, if a bit too long
>>84322842
Because it's fucking Doomsday, he thinks with his fists. His very first appearance has him just punch a wall until it finally gives in, he's a mindless monster, i.e. dumb enough that he tried to just force his way out of the lasso hold instead of doing more intelligent.
>>84323126
i miss operator tony
iron man is best capeshit along with batman begins
>>84321367
everything is fucking cgi, that fag is standing there in mocap pajamas
>>84320870
lmao retard
>>84321356
>teleports in front of you
>>84323338
>if i steal elements of another story, that'll make my story better
>>84323821
This is called kino kiddo
>>84323338
>It makes the movie better if I pay homages to old random shit no one gives a fuck about like Jesus and Excalibur
LOL, he tried.
>>84323189
Cap is superhuman, as such is Bucky.
>>84323189
Super soldier.
>>84323189
It was a combination of Iron Man holding back to an extent and Cap and Bucky trying their hardest to stop him/run away
>>84323850
He is Kubrick of our time
>>84320225
I disagree.
>>84320436
>against a better (but similar) enemy?
Superman would end abomination without event rying.
>>84322842
>he just STOOD THERE
Thanks to the Lasso, that's like the power of the lasso.
Reminder
>>84324228
>joss Whedon associated with /co/
That's honestly more insulting
>>84324240
yes yes
>>84320225
yeah the one with after with the balrog was better
>>84324228
>implying not all 5 are absolute shit
>>84320225
No, it was better than the title fight.
>>84320225
Thought it was Abomination for a sec.
>>84324346
I don't see it
>>84320436
Blonski would've been dead without the super serum.
>>84324228
I thought /tv/ hated Nolan?
>>84320436
The Abomination fight was boring desu. The Captain America Blonsky fight was better, even if too short.
>Steve isn't as agile as Blonsky
>>84324379
>/tv/
>hating based Chris ,,Big Guy'' Nolan
Lad I .....
>>84324390
No, I genuinely thought they did. What changed?
>>84323850
In complete honesty, this is a testament that throwing in symbolism, allusions, and references to shit doesn't mean a single goddamn thing in the long run. You can totally do that and still end up with a shitty work.
English professors BTFO
>>84320297
It honestly looked like they had to throw together something fast and borrowed a model from one of the Hobbit movies, made a few changes and threw it in there.
>>84320225
Almost that whole movie sucked, so it adds up.
I can only hope they introduce a whole army of Doomsdays with proper spikes in future films
>>84324404
>>84320225
I remember being baffled that they revealed Doomsday being in the movie in one of the trailers instead of keeping him secret, he still sucks but it at least would've been a cool twist.
This movie is such a bizarre clusterfuck, they really should have made a Batfleck movie before it.
>>84324404
Reddit started hating Nolan too
>>84320834
>why did superman sacrifice himself again? why was that needed?
So that he could be marked by a spear wound and then die for the sins of humanity on a hill of crosses, because he is literally Jesus Christ.
If you mean in-universe, there was no reason he had to do it. Wonder Woman had this shit under control. She had already proven that she could take what Doomsday was dishing out just fine, and she cut off his hand so it was clear she could hurt him. All she needed was a solid chance to cut off his head and Doomsday would have been dead.
Even if you take as divine mandate that ONLY the kryptonite spear can kill Doomsday, then WW is still the best person to actually use it because Superman is obviously weakened by its presence as well. The smart thing to do would have been to give WW the spear and then have Supers fall back to recover from its effects and regain his strength, possibly rejoining the fight after he caught his breath to occupy Doomsday's attention so WW could get the killing blow in.
>>84320225
It wasn't even a DC fight, it was a shitty ass Super Sayian fight. It was balls
>>84324985
So, /tv/ with their unhealthy obsession with reddit decided to change their opinion? So if reddit ended up liking /tv/'s God, James Cameron, then they'd end up not liking him?
>>84325156
Yep. Thats exactly how /tv/ works. As soon as everyone likes something it becomes reddit.
>>84324464
Did he want to make a jodorowsky film?
>>84325295
I'd like to see Jodo make a Doom Patrol movie. It's a shame he hates capeshit.
>>84325382
I'm curious if people like his actual work or just love seeing how fucking nuts his movies turn out to be.
>>84325432
I love his work and how fucking nuts they can end up being.
>>84325432
b-both? I prefer his comics cause he can do anything he wants in them and not have to worry about budgets, but his movies are pretty good too.
>>84325499
Well, I love his work because of how fucking nuts they end up being without fail.
I'm really sorry he ended up not doing Dune. Even as a huge Dunefag, I would have loved to see him go absolutely fucking crazy with it.
The only thing that annoys me is his blatant nepotism. His son is absolute shit as an actor.
>>84325073
>Wonder Woman had this shit under control. She had already proven that she could take what Doomsday was dishing out just fine
Fundamentally wrong. Her sword did dick all, Doomsday just healed from the damage. She basically managed to keep a stalemate going for a little bit and near the end Doomsday was breaking her defense and trashing her around until she lassoed him in attempt to pin him down.
To suggest that she let go of a rampaging monster so they can switch places and play musical chairs with the weapons is idiotic. She had him pinned, Bruce gassed him, Superman took the fucking shot like you were supposed to. It would have been completely forced to make Diana do it.
>>84325606
The script for his Dune is still there. Who knows? Maybe someone else will do the project instead.
>>84325641
she's also the one with weapons training. It just would have made much more sense and I think it would have made the fight a lot cooler to have her come and save the day.
>>84325236
Can you even imagine being like that? Letting others dictate how you feel about something? What an empty and pathetic existence.
They've also been overrun by /pol/ and /r9k/ a while back, which always makes for quality discussion.
>>84320320
It's bizarro nuclear man
>>84325643
the storyboard and script weren't the only reasons the movie was going to be fantastic. he had lined up the best talent of the time for the movie, actors, designers, artists, the whole works.
>>84325845
And it was all going to be a huge clusterfuck that would have echoed through the ages.
And then we got that David Lynch shit. That nigga can't do a straight story to save his life.
>>84325845
Welles, Dali, Jagger, Carradine. Giger and Moebius on visuals, O'Bannon on the script. Pink Floyd on the music. It truly is the greatest film never made.
>>84321167
nigga are you fucking retarded that's relatively steady camwork for an action sequence, or maybe you didn't watch any of Marvels action scenes
I'm not knocking marvel i like their movies but they're the biggest violators of shaky cam action
>>84325868
>tfw Lynch's young Alia Atreidesturned out to be literally 10/10
>she could have played the character in Messiah and Children
Fuck you Lynch you weird faggot
>>84320653
Batman would've fought Supes regardless. Led&s plan doesn't come into effect until Bruce's plan to obtain the Kryptonite has long been in effect.
>>84320382
Go to sleep, Snyder.
>>84321560
I think he meant CW the channel. Everything looks cheap there.
>>84321312
>>84321408
I can't see what's special about it
>>84322095
I fucking loved the tag team moves between Wonder Woman and Superman.
>>84323821
>>84323850
>adding in references somehow makes a movie worse now
I guess every piece of work with a reference is now 0/10.
>>84327321
Neither of those posts implied that.
>>84322286
>Buckys Metal Arm which is as strong as cap,
Actually, Buckey's robot arm is way stronger than Cap and just about everyone in the movie. Spider-Man stops it as a way to show just powerful he is.
>>84322106
That shot is just too fucking good. I was diamonds when it happened.
>>84327701
No! You're not allowed to like anything that has Snyder's name on it!
#triggered
#Snyderisproblematic
>>84320436
>And even though he was a barely-controllable Rage Monster, the Hulk didn't kill anyone in the entire picture?
For Hulk that a bad thing.
>HULK NEVER KILLS ANYONE IN HIS RAMPAGES.!!
>>84327748
Never saw the Hulk. Did he seriously not kill anyone?
lol
>>84324384
>The Captain America Blonsky
What? When did they fight?
>>84322106
>>84327701
>Snyder trying to stealth-samefag this hard
>>84321560
Look at this webm.
Then look at this at the 3 minute mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7SiuQxhAjg
It's embarrassing.
>>84321130
Sadly, thats one of the best looking CGI moments in MOS.
Now the actual Metropolis fight was full of shit like this.
>>84329310
Snyder really has a thing for asphalt gibbing. It's wasn't as noticable in MoS but in BvS it was taking up most of the screen in the Doomsday fight.
