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How would you have made Jane a good character? I feel like Hussie missed a lot potential with her.
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I feel like she never had potential. Nannasprite was a huge joke.
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>>84316090
Make her a sociopathic comedian that does a bunch of dumb shit for fun.
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>>84316090
Don't take her out of crockertier. Maybe she visually returns to normal and the AI or whatever that took over her brain doesn't have control anymore, but make her realize that she enjoys a level of assertivity and she wants to keep it.
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>>84316090
Have her stab Karkat some more
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>>84316090
follow up on the detective angle
follow up on the prankster angle
do anything besides "teen drama until suddenly mind control"
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>>84316090
more detectivingg. more agency in general, actually. cotton candyyyyy
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>>84316090
a more defined personality
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>>84316217
This, and also actually make her and Jake actual main characters instead of just sidenotes to Dirk and Roxy.

Basically remove trolls and focus on kids. The kids are great, the trolls aren't. The kids deserved more screentime than they eventually got.
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replace her with korin and yajirobe
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>>84316090
instead of fucking around on their do-nothing lands, have that chunk of Act 6 revolve around political intrigue on Prospit and Derse, with Jane sleuthing out the Condesce's powers and weaknesses

and instead of getting rid of the tiara entirely, have AR just get rid of the mind control, leaving Jane with full admin access to all of Condy's systems and pull off a successful coup, turning Derse against the batterwitch
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>>84316090
Your autistic bullshit comic is over. Take your general to /trash/ with Steven Universe where it belongs.
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>>84316217
my favorite fanfics with jane is where she is an adventurous gumshoe
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>>84316329
ah, but there is much more to discuss :)
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>>84316209
I don't care what anyone says, Act 6 Act 6 is great up until the retcon
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>>84316208
I agree here, Crockertier did wonders for Jane as a character.

It's still Jane, just with less tolerance for bullshit and a compulsive desire to serve Condy.
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>>84316208
That's a dumb solution. "She's boring so just keep her evil."
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>>84316314
god damn anon i like how you think
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>>84316329
THIS IS TOP QUALITY MASTER-BAIT
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>>84316401
>regular jane: boring and annoying
>crocker jane: annoying
well, technically it is an improvement
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>>84316258
>The kids are great, the trolls aren't.
>Implying.
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>>84316422
why the fuck reply to it then you cockgobbler
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>>84316379
It was though. Game Over is still a highlight of the comic, with sweet music, action, plot progression and even character arcs coming to beautiful climax, all set to the most creative use of hyperfiction in the comic by far.

There were so many places the comic could have gone after Game Over and still reached Act 7, but Hussie chose the worst possible way.
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>>84316409
except it was the computer bullshit that made her evil, and she was aware of herself while she did it. remove the evil, keep the assertiveness.
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>>84316470
>dominatrix jane
sounds good
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>>84316409
No, not at all.

Make her become good again overtime, rather than knock her out and have Vriska fix everything by proxy of ARquius.

Have Jane realize that she can be nice and good without having to take other people's shit, and maybe play some drama around her coming to her senses.
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>>84316470
She would still be boring.
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>>84316445
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>>84316329
this honestly
i don't actually get why hsg is allowed to pretend its not a general just because it doesn't use the word general
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>>84316493
Then that's the fault of being Jane, and there's nothing we can really do about it.
>>84316489
Stop, don't give me more fic ideas.
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>>84316441
>"I like one-note Internet stereotypes with atrocious typing quirks"

wew
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>>84316540
be fair
only about half of them are one-note
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>>84316540
>Imp-lying.
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In retrospect, it's the fucking worst that GO Dirk got erased in a pixellated bukkake. He would have been the only one to make it to the end of the retcon and consistently acknowledge everyone post retcon aren't the people he grew close to over the years, and he'd give Roxy someone to reminisce and vent with instead of some goofy asshole kid that showed up and "fixed" everything. It might have lessened the awkwardness of meeting Dave as well since it'd have been "expedited" without Vriska intervention. We might have gotten Dirk breaking own on Dave properly instead of just "oh. uh. oh no. uhh. sorry. uh. uuh."
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>>84316517
There's a general discussion thread for Zootopia and two for Steven Universe up right now. Are you blind?
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homestuck is solved either by gender-bending dave or switching rose with roxy
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>>84316564
i always though that his "aware of all splinters" thing would mean he'd know he was bro, and bro was hypercompetent because he knew everything dirk did
apparently not though
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>>84316090
subtract teenage romantic melodrama
add her actually joining condy and staying evil for the rest of the comic
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>>84316354
all five of them
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>>84316409
>>84316647
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>>84316605
>genderbent dave
>genderbent anyone
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>>84316586
i never said those should have generals either
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Speaking of which, for the people who missed it last thread, here's the Rose/Roxy fic I spun together earlier this day.

http://archiveofourown.org/works/7411147/chapters/16834177
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>>84316717
Well this isn't the place to talk about it. If you have issues with /co/ moderation, please go discuss it on /qa/.
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>>84316721
>1000 words exactly

was that intentional?
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>>84316716
even genderbent john?
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>>84316564
That's the point.

Did you not get the symbolism on the Void and Breath players being the only ones to survive the retcon?

Void players don't give a shit because muh entry level nihilism, and Bresth players just go with the flow do they don't ask questions.
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reminder that jane dying whilst asleep and mindcontrolled in game over was total bullshit
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So, /hsg/

Hypothetically, what would you suggest as a pithy title for a fic where Rose gets possessed by a horrorterror and guzzles all the cum she can squeeze out of everyone she can find on the meteors and in the bubbles?
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>>84316875
Can you ask shit like this on the /aco/ homestuck thread?

Thank you.
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>>84316853
I wanted someone to walk out of that damn retcon eternally suffering god dammit
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>>84316875
"Midnight Screw"
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>>84316906
but anon

someone did
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>>84316906
there's always jade
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>>84316939
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>>84316763
No, but I'm damn proud that it happened.
if you have any other commentary I'm always a slut for constructive criticisms and comments
>>84316875
I have no idea for a pithy title but damn if I don't want to see that happen. Perhaps something related to the thorncoddle bramblefuck.
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>>84316934
I can't believe that isn't already taken
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>>84316875
Thy Gluttonous Maws
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>>84316906

Gamzee was locked in a fridge for the rest of the comic, whipped around like a cheap toy with no regard for his life, knowing that his only fate was to be dropped in the ocean, still chained in the fridge to see if his plot armor would let him survive it.

That might not be eternal suffering, but it's pretty dang close.
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>>84316974
But Jade deserves happiness more than most of the cast
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>>84316934
prey sure you make that with two parts Jaegermeister, one part Smirnoff, one part Dr Pepper
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>>84317043
Holy shit my sides
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>>84317054
yeah but he gets out somehow and spends the next few non-consecutive years serving the cherubs before becoming one with his god
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pokemon go is fun

what would caliborn's pokemon team be
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>>84317054

Gamzee didn't live through the retcon. I'm talking about suffering from a "I just witnessed everything go to shit and loved ones die and all these post retcon people aren't the people I went through all that shit with" sort of suffering.
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>>84317132
All the most powerful pokemon, duh. He's a power gamer. Whatever 6 are at the top of the tiers.
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>>84317132
one lvl 100 magikarp with nothing but tackle, because flail is for the weak
an HM slave - but nothing that knows fly or teleport or surf. he has to go it alone
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>>84317169
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>>84317132
nothing but bidoofs
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>>84317132
six mewtwos obtained via getting two copies of pokemon red, and beating one repeatedly to then trade with himself
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>>84316494
the mileage from this comic really is amazing. What a timeless work.
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>>84317193
This is the correct answer.

It goes without saying that one of the gameboys and copies of Red belonged to Calliope before he killed her.
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>>84317211
>when gen y is in the position of power Homestuck will be heralded as a pinnacle of western literature
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>>84317120

If the Gamzee that gets dumped in the ocean is the same Gamzee that dealt with the cherubs and got to the Masterpiece. We'll never know, because it simply wasn't important enough to clarify at any point in the ending of the comic, apparently.

>>84317156

You might be in the wrong market here, friend. Might I suggest Shin Megami Tensei instead, what you just described is basically the main series' aesthetic.
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>>84317306
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I can't believe Vriska turned herself into a cyborg ninja........
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>>84317306
occam's razor ;^)
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>>84317349

A strange game, the only winning move is to kill all your friends.

Though Nocturne is probably the best at utter despair, I'd say. Not much else to say about a game where everyone fucking dies, or goes evil and makes you kill them.
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>>84317390
And then raped Jesus!
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Chaos Hero - Vriska
Chaos Deity - Bec Noir
Law Hero - Dirk
Law Deity - Lord English
Neutral Hero - Calliope
Hero - John
Heroine - Roxy
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>>84317487
not jesus!
he was pure
PURE
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>>84317390
THE DRAGON 8ECOMES ME!!!!!!!!
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>>84317487
is that a gmod model of sitska, sitting on Jesus?
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>>84316934
>>84317029
>>84317043
Thanks famulimus. If anyone still cares when Drone Season goes live you can check Sloppy Seconds to see what I ended up going with.
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>>84317568
>terezi not being the one who the dragon becomes

SH4MEFUL
JUST SH4MEFUL
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>>84317029
gimme a minute, I'm sleep deprived and easily distracted right now
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>>84317550
That makes it all of the more satisfying.
>>84317583
Well, it was meant to be her penetrating him with her 8ig 8ulge but that works too I guess.
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>>84317211
Isnt it still being made? I should do a storytime someday.
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>>84317516

If Bec Noir and LE are the Deities, then their obvious chosen heroes would be Eridan and Gamzee.

Also, Calliope's only role would be to try to do something but fail repeatedly, ending up being sacrificed by one of the other factions after yet another failure. It's okay, though, John would fix everything when he chooses the Freedom ending.
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>>84317303
>people used to believe this
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>>84317653
Neutral heroes never do shit, so Calliope is perfect for the role
I don't like Gamzee in the role of the Law Hero because he doesn't follow the ideology. Eridan could work in place of Vriska, but Vriska is actually competent.
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VRISKA NO

STOP

PLEASE STOP
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>>84317746
>vriska alchemizes a pizza in front of karkat just after he starts cooking
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>>84317746
it's too late

she did it

homestuck is ruined
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>>84317768
>rose tries to do the same
>alchemizes a horrorterror and it eats karkat
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>>84317703

>I don't like Gamzee in the role of the Law Hero because he doesn't follow the ideology.

No, but he worshiped the Deity to a certain degree. Close enough, really.

>Eridan could work in place of Vriska, but Vriska is actually competent.

Which is why Eridan's perfect for it. Think back to the original CH - he was shit, got mocked by everyone, then stupid things happen and he gets crazy powers, which caused him to call the hero weak, kick some puppies and run off to join the obviously evil people. Sounds like Eridan to me.
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>>84317746
>CHARACTERS WHO DESERVE TO ENTER THE NEW UNIVERSE
ME!
>WEENIES WHO I'M 8RINGING ALONG TO TAKE CARE OF MY 8ULGE
KARKAT!!!!!!!!
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>>84317799
But think of all the other, more competent Chaos Heroes like Daleth... or, uh, Walter... Jimenez... Chiaki? But she wasn't really Chaos. Okay, you might have a point.
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>>84317791
i thought it was just limited to pizza pockets
now we have to wait 2 more years and tell john to fix it
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>>84317843

Yeah, Chaos heroes tend to be pretty shit until lol evil. Which makes it funny that they join the "lol u cant surviv in a wrld of strength" faction. Chiaki was effective enough, but not until after she gets maimed and has to merge with Gozu-Tennoh.
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>>84317768
>this is how chefkat got retconned out
>he never realized his cooking skill, because Vriska keeps on alchemizing hawaii pizzas
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>>84317930
>shit girl
>shit pizza
it all makes sense now.
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>>84316540
>one-note internet steroetypes
We're talking about the regular trolls!

>atrocious typing quirks
The ones that are alive by the end are easy as fuck to read.
Seriously, Feferi's ")(" shit still throws me off every time I read it.
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>>84318138

Literally all the trolls were based off internet stereotypes pleb
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I'm gonna be completely honest, I started reading, and finished Homestuck last month. I was afraid there was no place to actually talk about it that isn't fucking Tumblr. I'm glad I suddenly remembered that /co/ exists and that Homestuck qualifies as a comic. I'm dumb.
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>>84317945
o's art style is pretty nice
not exact but it's good enough
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>>84318202
Doesn't mean they're one-note.
>>84318210
Welcome aboard!
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>>84318210
We're here for you nigga

/hsg/ is basically all I have left, everyone I knew who read the comic and liked fanart and fics and shit is gone
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>>84318202
>feferi
>gamzee
>eridan
>equius
>kanaya
>vriska
>terezi
>based off of internet sterotypes
I mean, I guess I'll put aside my immense love for Karkat, since I could understand why you'd think he's a stereotype.
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>>84318241
He's definitely going for his own thing and it works.

Wish he could update faster though.
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>>84318283
since the current update's got a progress bar (which updated a few hours ago) i'm assuming up next is a flash
maybe it'll use unity of thorns
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what doea fuchsia taste like?
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>>84317186
>power trick shuckle is a thing
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Why do I always hear about how shitty the ending was?
I liked it. Where's the criticism coming from?
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>>84318402
the badness, mostly
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>>84318402
Everywhere, but the problem was also the years preceding the ending as well.
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>>84318402
It wasn't about the story or characters, the two things that were actually important.
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>>84318402
It was everything leading up to the ending that helped make it so extremely lackluster and disappointing.
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>>84318434
What do you mean?
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>>84318402
mostly from homophobes butthurt about davekat lol
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>>84318402
it resolved literally nothing that needed to be resolved
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>>84317613
thats alight take your time
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>>84318469
The long, drawn out stretch leading up to Game Over over the course of literal years, followed by a complete reset that rendered the entire thing meaningless, followed by a rushed ending that didn't make up for all the time wasted.
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>>84318488
>mostly from homophobes butthurt about davekat lol
Did we watch the same ending?
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>>84318488
David && Karkaticus is the least of the ending's problem, Tipsy.
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>>84318460
I don't get it.
They won the game, they entered the new universe, Lord English is being fought and it implies he loses I think?
I dunno, I just thought it was a fitting and ambiguous ending.

>>84318518
I guess I can understand that. I read the whole thing in a month after it ended, so I didn't have to wait or anything.

Maybe when the epilogue is finished we'll get more closure? It technically isn't finished, right? There's that Homestuck 2.0 stuff they were talking about, even though I have no idea what that was.
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>>84318488
I keep a running text document titled "everything_wrong_with_homestuck.txt" and davekat only makes up about 20% of the content
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>>84318488
>homophobe
Every fucking time
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>>84318569
technically, the ending was ok

it was just not the ending to the story that was originally being told

like someone just cut the last 15 minutes off the ending of one movie and replaced it with another
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>>84318276
well they're maybe not stereotypes in the vein of "spooky japanese little girl ghost in the machine" and "furry LARPer" but they're clearly based off of people you would commonly meet online

>feferi
bubbly girl who loves peace and harmony, works in animal welfare, highly privileged family life

>gamzee
chill druggie who worships insane cult

>eridan
tryhard asshole who is constantly focused on getting laid and never understands why people are driven away from his overbearing advances

>equius
creepy guy obsessed with his highly specific fetishes, can't say two words without him turning it sexual

>kanaya
Exaggerated Highly Proper Speech Pattern And Takes Nearly Everything At Face Value Pretty Much Your Mom Using Facebook And Not Understanding Memes

>Vriska
power gamer grrl obsessed with winning and being the best, abuses the system and her team to force the result she wants

>terezi
that one copypasta of "my name is teh doom holds up spork WHEEEE pancakes" + inappropriate/disgusting use of senses such as sniffing/licking
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>>84318276
Feferi is Tumblr Girls circa 2010-2012

Gamzee is stoner bloggers

Eridan is an RP enthusiast. (with in-jokes about the Harry Potter fandom)

Equius is a horse furry with a muscle gain fetish.

Kanaya is a fashion blogger and that one person who tries to be an intermediate in internet arguments

Vriska is a PK'er/griefer and peak internet troll

Terezi is a scalie and fellow griefer, but more or less of the forum variety.

They're internet stereotypes. Maybe not as blatant as Sollux and Karkat, but they're there.
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>>84318488
davekat is awesome though
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>>84318760
correction: davekat was good
before the retcon ruined it
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>>84318759
>Eridan is an RP enthusiast.
biggest misread of eridan I think i've ever heard
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>>84318760
Yeah, I love Dave and his girlfriend Katy or something.

Davekat ftw!
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>all these people replying to obvious bait

Davekat is hot garbage but man, you all need to stop falling for dumb shit just because you think it's shit (it is though)
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>>84318830
what
the retcon started davekat
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>>84318855
so you admit that it came out of nowhere and received absolutely no development
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>all these people replying to obvious bait

The ending is hot garbage but man, you all need to stop falling for dumb shit just because you think it's shit (it is though)
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davekat is the john cena of homestuck
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Jade's rampant, rampant, homophobia
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>>84318855
The retcon merely confirmed red davekat, the most pedestrian of combinations. Pale or black davekat is clearly superior.
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>>84318890
You mean a shitty meme? I guess.
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>>84318874
i guess?
i assumed they were able to form a relationship because they werent so conflicted and argumentative over terezi
i thought it was an interesting way to pair dave with someone
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>>84318890
more like roman reigns
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>>84318918
i mean it only stays relevant because the people who complain about it galvanize the people who like it
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>>84318890
I can't see it?
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>>84318832
>played along Vriska in her Dualscar/Mindfang games and lived and breathed that identity for a while

>pushed that shit with his "landwwellers, fuck off" attitude to the bitter end

>completely enamored himself with the idea of being the Prince of Hope and evidently fulfilled that role by destroying hope (the Matriorb)

>"muh white science"

He's an RP nut taken to the natural extreme.
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>>84318937
sure it's an interesting premise
but hundreds of fanfiction authors beat Hussie to that premise years ago and did it better
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>>84318276
hussie's like literally said at one point that all the trolls were based on internet stereotypes. just because they dont read as modern day internet stereotypes doesnt mean they werent stereotypes at one point.

running across karkats for a good decade or so online was insanely common
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Jade "Make sure you're wearing a condom, I don't want another scare like last time!" Harley
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>>84317029
>trying her best to keep her cool
I reckon this is a good chance to show, describe her deadpan face, maybe a bead of sweat or some kind of nervous habit to convey how tense she is

>a look of concern on her face as...
split this into one shorter and one longer sentence

>how... strange
peculiar suit's Rose's voice better for this senence rather than strange

>Rose said back
just say replied, said back flows awkwardly

>free of the makeup
if you rephrase it to use the word bare instead of free, that adds connotations of vulnerability

>wearing that white and...
I recommend making this a new sentence, and have her fiddling with her shirt in some way as an excuse to describe it.

>Roxy said, proceeding to
you're in past tense, you wanna say 'and proceeded to' and make those other verbs -ed's too

>Rose hissed
having a hard time imaging a way that could be delivered out loud without sounding weird. it reads more like something she'd murmur, or gulp anxiously halfway through. also a couple of sentences describing how roxy undresses and rose's nonverbal reactions to the sight would serve well.

>normally glossy black but now pale pink
just say unglossed or glossless or something

>just wished for a bit
use stronger language than that. 'craved to know Roxy's thoughts'' or something, you want mounting tension when describing escalating intimacy.

>Rose's arms wrapped around
tad too passive. depletes the tension. Rose wrapped her arms.

>There was several minutes of mostly-silence
again, depleting the tension. that's a step down from those escaping groans she had earlier.

>begin to harden
that begin is redundant. she felt Roxy's nipple harden.

(cont)
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Will Jaden Smith Play Kanaya In The Movie

Hopefully His Dick Will Be As Big As Hers
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>>84319033

>Roxy's hand dug into
Roxy clutched is a more efficient use of words, or grasped. and again, you want the action to be ascribed to the character, otherwise they come across as passive participants with no agency, depersonalizing the situation.

>started to run
again, ran is more efficient

>rather than a place
redundant. also while not completely wrong, were an emotion would flow better than was

>she noticed suddenly that she was very, very wet
focus on the wetness that she's noticing rather than the act of noticing. what does she notice about her wetness? is it making her underwear cling? is there a tickle trailing down her thigh?

Also try to have your sentences flow chronologically. her trying not to bite down is a reaction to noticing her arousal, so comes afterwards in the sentence.

>was busy pressing her thighs together in order to provide some friction on herself
far too matter-of-fact. she has a growing, increasingly desperate need, convey that

>"good... good girl?"
probably unintentional but you need to start a new line when someone starts talking.

>one eyebrow lowered and the other raised.
redundant. if only one eyebrow is raised than it goes without saying the other is lowered.

>taking the voice-acted role
performing flows better than taking here.

>said, sardonically
get rid of that comma

(cont)
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jade "let's adopt instead" harley
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>>84319030
Dave using condoms but Jade popping holes in them
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>>84319061

>before returning
then returned

>It was another two minutes
the specificity of the statement makes things a bit too clinical. use a vague approximation of time here.

>She cooed, her voice low and sensuous.
cooed already establishes you're describing her voice, so just (...) cooed, low and sensuous.

>Rose crossed her legs
kinda hard when her legs are dangling awkwardly off the side as previously established.

>unintentionally out of reflex
either one implies the other, you don't need both. and split that sentence up.

>Oh god, if...
this whole paragraph needs redoing. you have all these vague filler words that could be removed to make room for more actual details.
.
>roxy's other hand was slipping
slipped, or had slipped.

some general advice in conclusion. If a sentence has three or more commas evenly spaced from each other, you're probably better off splitting it up. When you do so, an easy rule of thumb is you want to alternate between short sentences and longer sentences, have each sentence longer than the previous, or have each sentence shorter than the previous, depending on if you want a sense of rhythm, to create a sense of 'getting lost in the moment' or to create a sense of increasingly acute focus.

Unless you want to emphasize that your character is disconnected or otherwise getting 'left behind' by the action, you want to second guess every was and every -ing. most of the time you're better served by an -ed.

the senses, taste, touch, scent, and sound are all just as useful for adding detail as sight is.

if a character is feeling an emotion, try to include a physical symptom of that emotion to show that they are feeling it, so you're not just telling that they are feeling it. The more intense the emotion, the more physical symptoms you wanna describe to emphasize it.

and remember none of these things are iron clad,
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>>84318994
Karkat reads like that one guy who would put SSJ in front of his chat handle and tried to act tough, cool and standoffish like Vegeta all the time, but just came off like a self-important asshole trying to hide his weaknesses (like Vegeta).
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>>84318899
Didn't Trashconstruct (person who did these) eventually just become Tipsy's pet or whatever?
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jade "let's go get me spayed" harley
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jade "grab the coathanger" harley
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>>84318351
fuchsia is not a flavor, dumbass
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>>84319104
she wouldnt want to be under anesthesia while they were operating so she could get off to the pain and the fact shes living her fantasy of having her uterus cut out
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What did he mean by this?
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>>84319163
What the fuck
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>>84318351
salt water taffy
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>>84318994
I knew a Karkat growing up.

We lost touch years ago and I recently discovered he became a brony who writes really in-depth spanking pony fanfiction.

More or less analogous to Karkat's character arc.
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>>84319033
>>84319061
>>84319081
Duly noted, I'll go through tomorrow and make some changes. Thanks for the crit.
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>>84319185
hiveswap :)
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>>84319185
hussie said a lot of shit that nowadays isn't true
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>>84319185
he never cared if, in the end, Homestuck was good or not, it was just a vehicle for him to try some unorthodox writing techniques and get feedback on what did/didn't work
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So was Bro actually an asshole who hated Dave, or was he actually trying to help in his fucked up puppety way? Do you think he knew more about Sburb and the future than the other Guardians?
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>>84319212
no worries, I remember how starved for critique it gets when you're a writefag
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>>84319242
he was a socially maladjusted young man being mindfucked by an evil haunted puppet on top of his own natural psychoses
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>>84318569
Problem was not the ending, but everything that leads to it
- Given how roxys powers are batshit OP the alpha kids could bring back any character without any penalty, making the juju sacrifice a waste of time
- John could actually bring back any dead character with retcon powers and he looks a dick for not doing so
- John revives Vriska and thanks her for everything after saying he hated her and thought she was a dangerous psycho hours ago from his perspective
- There are two caliborns, two aradias and maybe three alive solluxs by the end of the comic
- If ghosts can use their powers on dreambubbles they could be fucking with the narrative with no penalties
- Only three kids at all did their planet quests
- The author's insert only left Slick alive for years to die for someone else's arc
- Dave and Bro's problems being recognized makes everything about characters behaving like in a videogame the biggest blueballing of my short lifespan
- Important characters like Jack and WV are only left for the sake of existing
- Act 6 could easily have 1/2 of its lenght and most readers gave up by trickster act
- We never see what blood does
- WHY DID ONLY DAVE BRING A CUEBALL WEAPON TO THE FUCKING FINAL BOSS
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>>84319227
>implying Hussie listens to feedback
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>>84319242
Bro obviously cared about Dave, so it was definitely helping in his fucked up puppety way. Dirk's introduction just cemented this as fact.
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>>84319289
there is no reality in which dirk and jake playing soccer isn't banal as hell
for that alone, I cannot be convinced that there are circumstances where Act 7 would not be shit
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>>84319308
ofc he does

if it gets a lot of positive attention he keeps working on it. if it doesnt, it gets scrapped. like whistles.
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>>84319354
He drops ideas because he got bored of them way more often than because people don't like it.
Hussie's philosophy isn't "do what people like", it's "do things that people dislike until they learn to like them". Pretty sure he said as much in a formspring answer once.
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>>84319101
Yes. They only draw unironic davekat for her now.
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Nah, it's fine the way it is. You say I could take a different approach because *some* people don't like something? Oh no! Who would have thought a certain quantity of people wouldn't like something! I've got to make sure that never happens, ever, I don't know what I was thinking.

So ok, 4th wall stuff.

Sometimes I catch people wrinkling their noses at the goofy 4th wall stuff. Now, I'll roll my eyes as much as the next guy at some really inappropriate 4th wall bending in places it doesn't belong. Probably the benchmark for where it feels appropriate and complements the story is something like Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Who doesn't find it charming and hilarious whenever he lowers his shades and sasses us through the silver screen, while Cameron kicks his dads car into a forest to the score of "BOW BOW..... chicka-chickaaaaaaaa"? Nobody is who. But taken beyond that, in works of more serious dramatic magnitude, or just really mishandled in some types of comedy, people start groaning.

Some people are inclined to give these things more latitude. Others are more strict.

But regardless of where you are on this spectrum, I kinda have to wonder how cement headed a guy has to be not to see that if ever there was a time such antics were permissible, it would be through this particular format, and this particular story. Remember what sort of thing you're reading? Seems like I've got to remind people sometimes.
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Jade "We really don't have the money to raise another child" Harley
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>>84319185
>yfw it actually was his opus and he will never
>ever
>EVER
>escape its shadow or his ruined fame
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Jade "Goddamit Dave you said you'd finish on my back!" Harley
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>>84319394
lol
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Short threesome fic update on pastebin. Not much to say here other than Dave puts his mouth to use.

http://pastebin.com/c4RsEfSG
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>>84319428
Its scary to think his personality wouldnt be aknowledged at all if homestuck ended good, just waiting to show in his next magnum opus except hed already have a cow to milk.
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>>84319386
name one thing hes finished thats not problem sleuth or homestuck

its obvious he liked them enough to keep working on them but ps is where he started really getting an audience. and i used my wording intentionally, "if it gets a lot of positive attention"

all of his works gotten some sort of positive attention. i was talking in droves.
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>>84319513
AIDS
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>>84316716
This. Genderswap is neat to think about but I cant think of a single character who would actually improve from it when looking at them as characters in a story. If its purley a hypothetical scenario, fanart, or something intended for sexual purposes, I'm fine with it though.
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>>84319513
How does anybody notice jailbreak was finished years ago
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>>84319513
percentage of products finished has nothing to do with why he finishes them
the only reason he finished homestuck is because he had a team of artists finish it for him
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>>84319242
I'm gonna err on the side of him being a young man who was suddenly saddled with a baby and didn't really know what the fuck to do, but just tried their best to raise the child whilst being kind of a self absorbed child themself and wanting to continue living their usual life. My dad was only 24 when he got full custody of me and my brother, and I see a lot of similarities between our sitations.

The guardians all pretty clearly had knowledge of the game, some more than others. Bro knew to go to the record shop with tiny sunglasses and pick up Dave from the meteor, saved him from planet jupiter, helped to set up John's ectobiology parameters (I think? Mom, Dad and Grandpa went to the lab, but Bro might have been elsewhere), presumably didn't freak out about being in the medium or on various planets or meeting Davesprite, and helped to fight Jack as best he could. He could have fucked off on his rocket board and left everyone to deal with it, but he chose to stay and participate in the initial quasi-eight-player kid & guardian session, so there's some care involved. If the beta session guardians were looked back on at all during A6, we might have got development on how they knew this stuff, seeing as Jade and Jake swapped letters and presents, and someone sent Liv Tyler and a bunch of weapons to the rescue. I would have liked to see each Alpha kid helping their pre-scratch self in their session, it would explain a lot and offer development to both sets of characters.
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What if Jade starts pretending she isn't really as baby crazy to lull Dave into a false sense of security
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>>84319545
AIDS was never finished. They had more planned that never saw the light of day.
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>>84319394
talk about a fall of grace
I mean like what even happened?
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jade "actually owns a punch card from planned parenthood" harley
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>>84319482
>you will never taste roxy
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>>84319555
i actually forget he finished jailbreak all the time somehow
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>>84319555
Did he add the last page of Jailbreak during Homestuck or something? It's not in the adventure log.
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Jade "I got you a vasectomy coupon Dave" Harley
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>>84319586
He was brainwashed and reformed after getting fucked repeatedly by her giant strap-on.
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>>84318652
>to the story that was originally being told
The story that was originally being told changed after Act 2, and it changed into a different story a bunch of times.
By Act 5 I could tell how annoyed Hussus was with the thing. If anything, we're lucky he didn't drop it.
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What is Necromancer's classpect: Page of Life, Knight of Blood or Knight of Doom?
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>>84319690
it happened around the cascade hiatus
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>>84319718
I guess it's only a matter of time before he finishes Bard Quest, then!
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>>84319581
>did the condom break dave?
>oh well guess we will just have to have the baby anyway!
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>>84319717
Wanna know what cheesed me a little and clearly showed Hussie was already on the decline

He spent time telling us how classes and roles are meant to challenge players to help them grow, and that was sort of clear with the likes of Rose, Dave, and Jade

But then in Hiveswap each troll pretty much already was their element and class and there was no challenge

Man he reeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaally fucked up *good* shoving in 12 uselessly shallow pricks like that
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>>84319771
>But then in Hiveswap

link plz
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>>84319712
>If anything, we're lucky he didn't drop it.

I was thinking the other day that I actually would have preferred an unfinished drop that anybody can headcanon into a decent ending, above some of the absolute bullshit that was in 66-7.

>john gets the retcon power
>doops around a little bit
>"you know what, fuck this"
>cons himself all the way back to A1
>A1 john looks out his window and smiles seeing the mailbox red flappy dealie is up
>retjohn zaps in
>takes the sburb game discs and drops it into the garbage can outside his house
>final scribble mode panel of retjohn sitting on the lawn with dave and jade's birthday presents around him
>this session was a colossal waste of time
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>>84319817
ugh Hivebent, whatever, same shit
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>>84319821
it makes more sense than suggesting that the kids are somehow able to live normal, boring, mundane lives in the new universe

if they're going to live normal, boring, mundane lives, it might as well be on the planet where they grew up along with the rest of human civilization
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i always knew trash was bad news when they refused to draw aradia

only the most souless creatures would do such a thing
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>ACT 7 happens exactly the way it was carried out
>after THANKS FOR PLAYING appears, game shut downs, zooms out to reveal it was all inside of john's computer
>inside John's room, we see it in an isometric perspective like always
>pesterlog with the 4 kids happens, John starts by saying "wow, that felt pretty real..."
>some more dialog occurs, then John says "I guess we all are still homestuck, eh?"
>END OF HOMESTUCK

How would you react?
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>fanart of the trolls purring
why the FUCK WOULD THEY PURR
THEY'RE INSECTS
IF ANYTHING THEY'D MAKE SOUNDS LIKE A FUCKING CICADA OR SOME SHIT
TIKKATIKKATIKKATIKKA
CHITTERING LIKE A FUCKING BUG
NOT A GOD DAMN CAT YOU CLOSET FURRY FUJOSHITS
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>>84319967
i pref this one
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>>84319969
why do people forget this

theyre FUCKING roaches
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>>84319967
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>>84319900
>normal, boring, mundane
They're living in a literal town made of cans, and frankly, the threat Lord English poses is still implied to be there somewhere.

Even without that, they're a bunch of kids from two separate races in a new fucking UNIVERSE that could potentially have it's own Earth / Alternia. Add the fucking ghost bubbles, and nothing's normal.
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>>84319969
cats have fried the brains of shut ins
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when I listen to this song I imagine a better ending
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDXBeS4Tgw8
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>>84319969
Anything else > mammals desu.
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>>84320001
Their designs are so infuriating. They're insectish people but they supposedly have skin and horns and hair? I guess I sort of like how odd they look when they >>84320011 combine the insect/humanoid features like this, but it honestly makes people forget their origins and give them weird shit that makes no sense just 'cause it's cute, like purring and shit.

And erogenous horns? If they were sensitive, they'd probably be like insect antennae, not like nipples on your dipshit fapbait troll's head.
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>>84319474
He deserves it. He's a hack.
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>>84320036
sensitive horns come from unicorn memes and shit
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>>84320060
If you're implying they came from League, they didn't. If not, what do you mean by unicorn memes?
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>>84319900
>normal, boring, mundane lives
on a planet mostly populated by chess people, their have the responsibility to not only fuck around with ectobiology to revive both the human and troll races, but to consciously decide what aspects of their former culture they should reintroduce and which would be better off left out, as well and administering the reborn races to ensure they don't immediately devolve into open conflict over their innate differences

they just decided to have a picnic in the park before tackling any of that shit
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Seeing these threads active again make me regret deleting my multi-gigabite Homestuck folder in rage back in 2014.

Thank the god lord I held on to the Homesmut folder though.
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jade "shrink your balls with space powers" harley
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>>84320036
>They're insectish people but they supposedly have skin and horns and hair?
when a caterpillar or similar such insect undergoes pupation, nearly their entire body is dissolved and reconstructed within the cocoon
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>>84320071
unicorn horns are like dicks
wtf this shit is as old as time
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>>84320076
>dat rose ass
sweet lordy
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>>84320076
I took the labor and time to grind down every single folder I had to the cream of the crop. Best decision I ever made. Only got like 10 images in each now.
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>>84320036
stag beetles have horns
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What would a Post-Scratch Dad be like?
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>>84320147
the same as normal dad but gay

gay for dd
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>>84319969
Any and every piece of fanfiction or fanart will depict characters as purring, regardless of their personality, gender, species, media of origin, etc. It's just one of those elements that people will slap onto anything to make it cute and appealing.

Since trolls are like mammalian human(primate)esque bugs, I figure they'd sound like a colony of marmosets, since marmosets sound like a flock of small twittering birds and thrumming/chirping cicadas when they get going.
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>bronies are to blame for the erogenous horn bullshit

I should have guessed.
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someone givve me a girl troll to fap to

jade blood or higher
no peasants
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>>84320036
>caring this this much about a race of which hardly any thought was put into outside of appearance and terminology
it's faggots like you who ruin fantasy shit because they can't suspend their disbelief and have to get the ins and outs of every fucking thing
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>>84320036
The cow ears never sat well with me.
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>>84320204
it was pre brony but yeah
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>>84320218
All I'm saying is why make them insect-like while proceeding to ignore all of that for the most part? Also fuck you you dumb cunt. "Wahhh wahh wahh, wah wah, I'm a dumb baby fucking retard idiot" that's you.
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>>84320169
Gay for Dunkin' Donuts?
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>>84320205
fef
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>>84320246
ye boi
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>>84320204
it's been around for way way longer than that
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>>84316329
Delete your account.
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>>84320073
That's not the point, act 7 tried to pretend like they were getting some "happily ever after shit" with nothing but picnics and soccer games for the rest of time
Act 7 could have shown a million different things about life in the new universe but what Hussie decided to show us was the most uninspired, uninteresting bullshit possible
Can you honestly watch act 7 and tell me that Hussie was imagining the sociopolitical responsibilities of managing chess people
I think he genuinely was trying to communicate to us that the kids get to live happy normal lives because that's what he thinks a good ending is
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>>84320169
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>>84320248
hel yea
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>>84320243
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>>84320267
this makes me pine for old Karkat before he was murdered and replaced by Kankri on meth
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Good Homestuck Substitutes:

> Jojo
> SMT/Persona
> Cool and New Webcomic
>
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