>The Lion King rated G
>Frozen rated PG
Explain.
>>84242717
Frozen had more penis jokes.
>>84242717
The MPAA are idiots what else is new.
>>84242717
the lion king was released 22 years ago. they were more lenient with ratings.
>>84242717
>>The Lion King rated G
No graphic violence occurs on screen. All major characters are animals.
>>Frozen rated PG
Characters are human or pseudo-human.
>>84242717
>Lion King
Disney paid to have the rating lowered so they could aim it square at kids, and it paid off.
>Frozen
They wanted more pre-teen girl money, so they had them label it with PG so it didn't seem so 'kiddy' even though they could easily have pressured them for a G, and it paid off.
>>84242717
Kids were tougher back then
They were chewing iron nails and shitting bricks before beating up their teddy bears and stuff
>>84242717
Lesbotic undertones
>>84242758
I think is it.
G rating sorta gained a negative association as being solely for really little kids over the years, and so now pretty much every animated film from like every studio seems to aim for a PG rating. So that they can get older audiences, like (pre)teens watching without feeling like it must be for babies, and still draw in the same little kid crowd because most parents wouldn't have much of a problem with PG instead of G.
As early as the '80s Don Bluth was pushing to get Secret of NIMH rated PG so it might bring in more viewers, but somehow it got a G rating anyway, maybe because talking animals.
>>84242758
>>84242842
G and PG are literally interchangeable for 99% of audiences.
>>84242738
I never noticed any.
>>84243062
"Foot size doesn't matter" is the only one I can remember.
Nature documentaries aside, there have been only 4 movies released since 2012 with a G rating. The Peanuts Movie, Rio 2, Monsters University, and The Secret World of Arrietty. For the most part, the rating isn't used any more because the writer(s) have somewhat more freedom when aiming for a PG movie, and also because G movie makes people think of Elmo in Grouchland.
>>84243175
Oh wait, I missed one because its gross was so low that it didn't show up on the chart. We can blame Oogieloves for ruining the good reputation of the G-rated movie.
I remember when PG was an edgier, more adult rating - a movie with a PG rating was considered somewhat risky for young kids. At this point, PG might as well just be G and G shouldn't even exist.
>>84242820
honestly, i thought there would be more replies like yours
>>84243308
It's not a Frozen-unique thing, basically every major cartoon movie release goes for PG nowadays. Even if it's merely PG for "mild rude humor".
>>84243219
OOGUST
>>84242717
This Scene makes Frozen rated PG
G rating doesnt exist anymore
PG is a catch-all for kid's movies these days
PG-13 is a catch-all for family movies
R means your movie will bomb
MPAA is trash
>>84242747
>22 years ago
FUCK
>>84242717
The 90s had the 80s behind it. the10s had the aughts and the 90s behind it.
>>84242717
Nowadays, PG is "G" with a slight edge.
>>84245126
>R means your movie will bomb
Deadpool
>>84242717
People weren't pussies in the 90's.
>>84242820
This fucking shit joke is exactly why we need too add new words to the English language for the different kinds of love.
>>84246620
...I haven't seen any G movies advertised in like forever. Pixar is literally the only place that still makes them, and maybe GKIDS stuff like Song of the Sea. Every other kids' movie these days is just sassy poop jokes, especially in animation.
>>84248310
And even Pixar's trended away from G like everyone else.
>G: Toy Story
>G: A Bug's Life
>G: Toy Story 2
>G: Monsters, Inc.
>G: Finding Nemo
>PG: The Incredibles
>G: Cars
>G: Ratatouille
>G: WALL-E
>PG: Up
>G: Toy Story 3
>PG: Brave
>G: Monsters University
>PG: Inside Out
>PG: The Good Dinosaur
>PG: Finding Dory
>>84245032
GOddamn art style and animation is terrible. I hope Disney returns back to 2D soon.
>>84242717
We exist in a world where PG does better than G and G has a stigma of "boring grannies and toddlers" so films that can easily be G are made bare bones PG just so they can be better recieved because the retarded audience doesn't like the label of "G-rated films" anymore.
>>84246660
exception that proves the rule
>>84245126
It's such an alien concept to me for companies to be able to impact movie ratings. I live in Australia and here we have a government rating system. It goes:
G - same as America
PG - same yet again
M - mature audiences, basically our PG-13
MA15+ - mature adult audiences, can't be seen unless 15 or over
R18+ - adult restricted, 18 or over
Basically our system includes an inbetween between PG-13 and R. Also Australia views swearing as less impactful than the MPAA, movies usually only get R for gratuidous gore or sex scenes, you can see the word cunt in MA15+ movies. I don't really know if one system is better than the other but I know that the MPAA get's criticism for unfairly rating strong language.
>>84248623
>Basically our system includes an inbetween between PG-13 and R.
It works pretty much the same in the UK.
Hence why Deadpool only got a 15 in the UK.
>Nudity is restricted to PG and above, although only brief nudity is permitted in a PG rated film.
If they're already PG rated, why are there no Disney movies with nude scenes?
No one knows why the mpaa do anything but its safe to say if you pay you get the rating you want
Acording to the bbfc Frozen is rate pg for mild
>THREAT
>Characters become involved in adventures which place them in danger, for example being chased by a pack of wolves and being threatened by a giant snow ogre which flings soldiers around. However, the mild threat is balanced by comic moments and a focus on bravery and resourcefulness.
>The film also features an evil character being punched, as well as some mild rude humour, such as the dialogue, "What if he picks his nose? And eats it?".
>>84248623
Wouldn't that be analogous to G, PG, PG-13, R, and NC-17, then?
>>84248662
Like the first few seconds of Zootopia with the totally nude prehistoric animals?
>>84248623
The US equivalent of R18 is NC17 which you never see because it makes it almost impossible to get a wide release
>>84246437
>there will never be films for kids that they remember fondly as classics from childhood anymore because a new one comes along every other month and everybody forgets about the last one
Remember Brave. Or Princess and the Frog. Or Tangled. I bet little girls don't give 2 shits about Frozen anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzbE0wpqeKc
>>84242750
The final fight between Simba and Scar is more intense than anything that happens in Frozen. Scar gets eaten alive at the end albeit that was off screen.
I don't see how them being animals makes a difference when they all talk and think like humans.
>>84249043
True. However ours are rated with more leniency. US R is our MA for the most part. MA is a pretty huge category. Anything remotely bloody(every horror movie these days) or with sex scenes and a lot of swearing(every comedy these days). R is pretty much exclusively torture porn like Saw and Hostel.
>>84249096
Eh, I still see little girls dressed as Elsa around Halloween or wearing Frozen clothing pretty much any time of year.
Quality of the movie is obviously up for debate but it does seem to have made an impression on kids.
This isn't some bullshit trigger thing that necessitates a change in society's standards for the rating system is it?
Like Disney striking out any gator or croc references all of a sudden?
Its song of the south all over again.
>>84248555
You need to get your Eyes checked.
>>84248623
In Germany we simply use the age number as indicator, in steps of
0 for everyone
6 and over
12 and over
16 and over and then
18 and over
>>84248555
>GOddamn art style and animation is terrible.
>I hope Disney returns back to 2D soon.
Pick one.
>>84242820
Thats really only in the merchandise.
Anybody who thinks there was any hint of incest in the movie just has there yuri goggles on
>>84248623
Unless it's a videogame then for years we dident have an r rating and things just got refused classification instead
And then all our fears that an r rating for videogames would just mean things that would have gotten ma15+ before would get r ratings now were proven true
And they still had to censor the stick of truth fuck ratings systems man
>>84251452
I'm jealous of you Americans though as I understand it although the mpaa have a lot of infulunce they don't have any auctual legal power like we have here
First time I saw her I popped my first boner.in front of my mom and sister, fuck this bitch
>>84249096
Brave was weird they hyped it up as being about girl power and then it wasent about girl power at all
That was for the best though
>>84242717
the ratings have become more restrictive
things that were rated pg then would now be R
>>84242717
they were released 19 years apart
basically the Lion King created a generation of terrified baby people who are now posting on 4chan
>>84251464
Yeah, getting an MPAA rating is optional. If you're a small independent film you can just go straight to theaters and slap a "Not Rated" on it if you don't want to go through the process. Pretty much all major studios do, though.
>>84249096
>I bet little girls don't give 2 shits about Frozen anymore.
a movie about sisters where there's two princesses and they rescue themselves?
no, i can't see that resonating with little girls at all
>>84251792
because the big chains don't want the extra hassle of trying to classify you for their own purposes - they need to know what rating you fall under because, broadly speaking, that determines how much money you're likely to make, and they need to know that before they can decide how much to charge you for exhibiting your film
which means no rating pretty much equals no theatrical release, and certainly no wide theatrical release
if it were at all feasible, they wouldn't bother with the MPAA at all
>>84248699
>some mild rude humour, such as the dialogue, "What if he picks his nose? And eats it?".
Are you fucking kidding me.
>>84251815
>which means no rating pretty much equals no theatrical release, and certainly no wide theatrical release
Unrated wide releases don't really happen, but unrated limited releases to arthouse theaters goes on constantly every week.
Censorship was a mistake
>>84251427
The way Elsa and Anna shyly compliment each other is a little off, though; my sister thought it was the gayest shit.
>>84253277
It certainly pales in comparison to the merchandise though some of that shit is friends forever #4 tier
>>84243169
Anna also said something about balls
>>84251487
no not this shit again
>>84251487
Which movie is that from? Looks familiar...
>>84254001
Goofy Movie
>>84251921
>Roseanne For President
what?
>Comedian Roseanne Barr tests the limits of the two-party system as she vies for candidacy on the 2012 ballot.
what??
>>84248699
For comparison, this is what they said about Lion King in 2011 when Disney released a 3D version. Note that these are people who thought Simba was an orphan even though his mother was still alive.
>THE LION KING is a 3D version of the classic animated film about Simba, an orphaned lion. The film was classified 'U' and contains no material likely to offend or harm.
>The film contains some scenes of mild emotional intensity. The first of these occurs when the young Simba has to deal with the death of his father, Mufasa, who has been trampled in a stampede. The BBFC's Guidelines at 'U' state 'While problematic themes may be present, their treatment must be sensitive and appropriate for young children'. This scene of bereavement is sensitively handled and does not contain any images likely to upset younger audiences.
>At the climax of the film there is a fight between the grown-up Simba and his evil Uncle, Scar, who has confessed to being responsible for Mufasa's death. The Guidelines state there may be 'Mild violence only. Occasional mild threat or menace only'. This scene is a key moment in resolving the narrative and contains no detail of any injuries incurred by either lion. In addition, even the youngest viewers will be in no doubt as to the culpability of Scar and are unlikely to be caused undue anxiety by his death.
>>84242717
>Rated PG
>>84256326
that was back in the day before the PG 13 rating, i think.
back when PG actually meant you might see some shit and need a parent
>>84256326
That's probably the worst. I don't even think Gremlins or Temple of Doom have scenes as graphic as Jaws.
Then again, there are still some bizarre exceptions of 70s horror movies that clearly deserve an R-rating, like a Hammer Dracula sequel that has a sex scene with tits, and Four Flies on Grey Velvet which features decapitations.
>>84248623
>>84248637
Mexico works almost the same as america, but the PG-13 gets pretty much split up in lighter and havier versions of itself.
AA = G
A = PG
B = lighter PG-13
B15 = heavier PG-13
C = R
In Mexico, there was a minor outrage about Deadpool getting a B15, whereas Hateful 8 got a C, despite Deadpool being much, much more violent, vulgar and sexually explicit.
And unfortunately the theaters took the parents' ire, despite not being their fault at all.
>>84246437
>>84248503
Part of it is that they've been making more movies featuring humans in peril.
Finding Dory had no reason to be PG though.
>>84251464
No legal authority is a far cry from no influence.
Unrated films are outright rejected by many theaters, so there's no real recourse but to go through the MPAA if you care about your film making money.
Of course the biggest problem with the MPAA is the lack of accountability. They do not disclose their rating criteria and will never tell you what aspect of your movie earned it the rating it did. You just have to guess, make changes, recut, and resubmit hoping that whatever you did was enough.
>>84257081
Can't think of any reason why Inside Out would be PG either.
>>84257171
"mild thematic elements and some action"
I too have no clue
>>84248623
Here in Spain we have it
All Public
7
13
16
18
And yet it is very inconsistent. For example, the Big Bang Theory is for all ages.
American Dad is for audiences over 18 while Family Guy is for audiences over 16.
The Simpsons are rated for all ages as well.
Most Cartoon movies, if not all of them, are for all ages as well.
>>84253158
Fucking this. Censorship is literally the death of art.
>>84253158
How would an absence of censorship improve the lion king?
>>84257081
I remember thinking Finding Nemo should have been PG. There was blood in it.
>>84257081
>Sex Ed joke at the beginning
>>84257939
They would have kept the original ending in which Scar dies burning alive in a fit of insane laughter
