If Dr. Doom is so smart, why does he think Islam is a race?
>>84234506
Because Arabs are?
>>84234579
>all Arabs are muslim
>>84234506
If you're so smart why do you post on this board? Checkmate faggot
>>84234506
because they are
>>84234683
By that definition bronies are a race.
>>84234755
Of that's hat it'll take to put them in camps...
>>84234506
So from writing this I assume that the writer feels that Vlad the Impaler holding off the Ottoman invasion was a bad thing?
>>84235180
No, but you can do good things and hold outdated or biased beliefs.
>>84235342
>outdated
"Islam is violent" is hardly outdated.
>>84234506
>It will close the gap with the west, in terms of science
>>84234506
>What if?...Doctor Doom became a nu-male.
>>84234638
In this context it's a race because Dracula a group that would close the gap with the west and there are Muslims in the west who study science so Drac is not defining his terms.
>>84234506
Uncle Vlad is the hero the modern world needs.
>>84235655
Blowing our institutions of science up would technically close the gap...
RELIGION OF PEACE
>>84235655
>>84235655
Islamic Nobel science prize winners:3
Yeah, no.
Its the Marvel Universe, and Doctor Victor von Doom. What the fuck does he have to fear from ISIS, even a Superpowered ISIS?
>>84235966
>It's a race in this context because of convoluted bullshit.
>>84234506
Is there a difference between Doom and another terrorist head like Al-Baghdadi (apart from technological level and shit)?
If no, it's obvious he would lash out against anyone pointing out the danger of violent ideologies ("Allah is great" "All shall bend under the rule of Doom").
>>84234506
Because Paul Cornell is an idiot.
>>84234506
Who the fuck wrote that.
>>84234579
No.
>>84235966
What.
>>84234579
you do know that Christians and Jews also have a strong foothold in the middle east right?
>>84234506
Everything is a race. Mexicans are a race. Hispanics are a race. Islam is a race. Skin color is a race, culture is a race, ethnic groups are a race. It doesn't mean anything anymore.
>>84236283
don´t some of their highest physicians believe that nuclear power plants are powered by jins?
>>84234506
why would a person like doom even care about such pity things like racism in the first place? shouldn´t he be more interested in getting more and more power nowether the cost
but I guess in todays sjw run marvel villains can´t be evil anymore
no they keep the really evil shit for those nasty republicans and trump
>>84236594
>racism is a race
>discriminating racists is cutural appropriation
>regressive left meltdown
>>84236594
wait you are saying that the left has destoryed another meaning of a word in their quest to destroy western civilization
just like the turned rape into touching and kissing a woman without asking for her consent first?
or how people apparently can change their gender form day to day?
>>84236527
>Who the fuck wrote that.
Some Dr. Who writer from Bongistan.
>>84234683
doesn´t that make rednecks a race as well?
wouldnt that mean that 99% of all people working in the entertainment industry should be imprisoned for "Inciting hate speech against rednecks"?
>>84236662
pls put a regressive before that word pls pls pls don't be mean
>>84235966
In that case then it's more Xenophobia since he's obviously basing his hatred on his beef with the Ottomans
>>84236392
Well for starters, hes a recognized Head of State.
>>84236687
Liberals don't think that classism is a form of bigotry.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160613160356/http://gawker.com/dumb-hicks-are-americas-greatest-threat-1743373893
Remember. Like Bernie Sanders said, white people don't know what it's like to be poor.
>>84236699
sorry there is no "regressive" left being crazy is just the normal left nowadays
just look at Obama. Even he tells such lies like rape culture, the wage gap, Islamophobia and shrugs of criticism with claims of racism
sorry but your party has long abandoned you
>>84236750
Who? Al Baghdadi?
(We can shift from him to the Bin Laden royal family.)
>>84236757
he also said piece related
>>84235180
You realize that Vlad was just as barbaric if not moreso than the Turks, right? You know it was possible for both sides to be wrong / evil, right?
>>84236629
>don´t some of their highest physicians believe that nuclear power plants are powered by jins?
I would tell the locals that so they won't kill me.
>Science what science? I trapped evil spirits to power this machine praise Allah.
You can do anything with enough Charisma and resources like convincing a nation you can change it or make it great again.
>>84236758
That they are no longer represented does not mean they no longer exist.
>>84236772
Odd. What does he think of the fact that Asian and white women make more than black and Hispanic men?
>>84236781
>You realize that Vlad was just as barbaric if not moreso than the Turks, right?
Objectively incorrect. He kept Europe safe by keeping those savages at bay.
>>84234506
>>84236758
>normal left
>your party
Now you are just taking the easy stupid way.
You know there are socialist minded people who know about economics?
It's not only guys like pic related >>84236772.
>>84235655
Dracula also thinks that England had/has a peasantry. Dracula is a moron.
>>84236792
yeah but voting for the democratic party is only going to make those crazy people stronger
acting like there is still a normal left in charge only leads to people blindly giving the very people they hate more power.
the democratic party needs to be shamed to change and that can only happen when people start to openly call them out for their bullshit.
>>84234506
Also this doesn't really make much sense considering Doom is racist against non-Romani.
>>84236222
I laughed. Good job anon.
>>84236834
>socialist minded people
>know about economics
>>84234506
Vlad mentions 'his people' as well as Islam, so for the sake of conversation, Doom may have just used racist in place of prejudice for some sake of gravity in his rhetoric.
>>84236825
what happened after this stuff, anyway?
>>84234506
vlad is implying racism, you autists. doom thinks he's retarded because his reasoning is obviously based on racism, not because he's screaming "HITLER DID NOTHING WRONG" at his face.
so for someone who doesn't read comics
isn't doctor doom the bad guy?
then again cap is a nazi so who knows
>>84234506
Why is Eastern European Doom speaking with Western liberal sensibilities?
>>84237048
Doom is the bad guy but writers love him so they make him secretly or-not-so-secretly right about everything and also he's never really defeated nuh-uh not ever he manipulated the Fantastic Four into blowing up his castle!. And that.
>>84237048
>hydra was s.h.i.e.l.d. all along
>>84237016
How is pointing out that Islam is a threat to the west racist in any way?
>>84237048
>so for someone who doesn't read comics
do your self a favor and just leave this place
modern comics have nothing good to over
>>84237121
For the same reason that most leftists are uncomfortable confronting Islam's homophobia, its sexism or it's racism. Most of its adherents have brown skin and more importantly seem angry at the west. This makes them automatically the moral superior in the mind of the average western Leftist, who immediately retreats to the comfortable memetic ground of WWII or the Civil Rights Movement where he was definitely in the right.
TL;DR - lefties think Islam is a race.
>>84236365
>>84236527
Doom responded to what Dracula said. Dracula identified a group of people and Doom judged that Draculas motivation for identifying that group was based on race.
Is there part of this you don't agree with?
>>84236726
I believe xenophobic would be fear of all outsiders, this is only one group.
>>84237121
what's wrong in your brain? can you not read words?
>>84237199
Yes. We're saying that Doom erred in referring to Islam as a race, and this error is merely authorial intrusion.
>>84237048
>>84237106
The last ever issue of Marvel comics will reveal that it was all the Scarlet Witch using the Infinity Gauntlet to change the past so all her friends are alive and anti mutant racism goes away then the Watcher will say that it was the only way she could have done it without messing with free will and she done nothing wrong.
Then the AIs that replaced us will rage over how this affects whatever continuity issues they were monitoring.
>>84236629
>Rub this plutonium! It'll grant you wishes!
>>84237240
Ok I believe there is an argument that could be made for the group being called a race but I don't believe anyone could argue that using other terms would be wrong.
>>84237199
I still don't understand. How can an educated man like Doom mistake race with religion? Bullshit, I bet it's the writer projecting.
>>84237623
SJWs projecting? Never.
>>84236757
He specifically said in front of a room of BLM types that Appalachian whites were among the most disenfranchised racial groups in the US.
>>84237520
>Hassan I told you not to make deals with that djinn! That's why your kid has 3 arms and no nose.
>>84234506
Because he knows Vlads true motive is based on racism not the ideology
>>84237860
Man, people really do need a war on their soil once in a while to not lose their minds. Some actual suffering and despair to keep you grounded.
>>84234579
>all muslims are arab
>>84234506
Because Doom is still not done Project: Remove Turk, and now that he took over Latveria AFTER the Post-Yugoslavian Civil Wars (thanks sliding timescale) he needs to be more discrete with his ethnic cleansing.
>>84238021
>all middle-easterners are arab
>>84234683
atheist communist master race checking in
>>84238099
>atheist
Stop being racist against believers.
>If I defeat Richards, he wins.
>>84237016
>What happened after all of this stuff
Well:
>Dracula tried to invade Great Britain with a flying pirate ship and vampire suicide bombers
>Doom summoned a gypsy shapeshifter from Hell just to fuck with Dracula
>Dracula failed to invade GB due to a magic forcefield
>Dracula was killed by an NHS doctor wielding Excalibur
>The End
>>84238216
what the fuck
>>84238216
Comics are shit goddamn
>>84238216
>NHS doctor
do you mean the new Capetian Britain which is a Muslim woman?
>>84238360
No, she wasn't Captain Britain at the time.
She was just Dane Whitman's new Squire.
>>84238377
then who is the NHS Doctor?
>>84238360
She's not CapBrit -- She was just CapBrit in AoU and some fucking elseworlds story from Secret Wars.
>>84238403
It was Faiza Hussain, Dane Whitman's Squire, a muslim doctor who could heal people by pulling them apart with alien ray gun powers.
>>84238403
Faiza Hussein. Who was only made into Captain Britain in Age of Ultron, in an alternate universe.
Which shouldn't bother you at all, given that the Captain Britain Corps is a multiversal organization that lets whoever in, like this guy who I'm sure you'd be happier with.
>>84238545
There's a nazi, a rapist, and even a CapBrit from a universe where 1984 was real.
>>84238545
>>84238535
>Muslim saving Britain
yeah I can´t say why I´m not surprised
so glad that I don´t buy western comics anymore
>>84237623
Yes it was probably the writer projecting but as there are Muslims who do not live in that part of the world but most people living somewhere will share genetic traits if their families have lived there for long enough there are grounds for calling them a race.
How many references to Donald Trump did Marvel do since he launched his canditacy?
Fuck, If he really wins there will be 4 years of instensified SJW pandering and Trump-like villains. Marvel really is dead.
>>84238659
Marvel has a new demographic, which is politically focused normies now. You can't have fun now without social commentary forced down your throat with some topical analogue.
wow i didnt know marvel made /pol/ comics
Stop blaming Islam for the attacks of some mad men. Think of all the good things that Islam has given us.
Doom can see the racism cloaked in other non racism dogwhistle terms.
>>84237199
Dracula said Islam, Doom assumed it was in reference to a race. Doom (and by extension the writer) is a fucking retard.
There's something poetic about a time-honored classical character of esteemed literature having to deal with the idiocy of a cartoon character conceived by a Jew.
>>84236662
>just like the turned rape into touching and kissing a woman without asking for her consent first?
a voice for men pls go be delusional somewhere else. /r9k/ will love your virgin tantrums.
>>84238659
4 solid years of unfettered asshurt might actually make Marvel entertaining again.
>>84238741
It was pretty good with science and mathematics back in the day, but have done nothing but detriment to progress
>>84238639
Faiza Hussein is only Captain Britain in timelines where Britain has been severely fucking compromised, and there are plenty of white, Christian pedophiles out there too.
And if you don't want to read Western comics, feel free to fuck off over to /a/,
>>84238782
>It was pretty good with science and mathematics back in the day
No, you're thinking of everyone in the Middle East EXCEPT supporters of Muhammad. He condoned executing scholars.
>>84238742
"dogwhistle"
this is the 2016 version of microaggression. It's just you desperate for something to whine and be paranoid about so you can cry about it.
>>84238769
Is that the best you got ?
>>84237016
4chan variety racists cannot fathom subtle racism existing. maybe because all the racism in the site is so up front, what with people spouting the word nigger all over the place, they cant understand normal people hiding their racism in the real world.
>>84238805
Ok then, they have contributed nothing of worth
>>84238786
What's it like to defend people who want nothing more than to have every Christian convert to Islam and death for those who don't?
>>84234506
THANK YOU OP
I NEEDED THIS BAIT THREAD
>>84238786
>and there are plenty of white, Christian pedophiles out there too
Don't talk about our clergymen with such disdain...
>>84238839
I just found a piece of racism hiding under my socks. Where do I dispose of it?
>>84238860
>3 frame .gif of nigger media
Gee, wonder where you came from
>>84238639
>/pol/ whining about things he knows nothing of
why does this keep happening
>>84238891
(You)
>>84238812
>dogwhiste is a term from 2016
are you legit retarded or just very uneducated? this term has been around for ages.
>>84236781
He defended his people from a foreign invasion. HOW is that evil?
>>84238741
I still, STILL don't understand this doublethink bullshit. Islam is a vile and hateful belief system that goes against women's rights and LGBT rights, but SJWs will break their spines in the process of bending over backwards to defend it.
Even after a muslim executes 50 gays on American soil, they STILL don't want to face the fact that it goes against everything they stand for.
It makes me want to fucking vomit. It's absolutely vile.
>>84234506
#IMWITHDRACULA
>Close the gap in science..
Maybe hes just tired and not completely fucking stupid
>>84238989
>Even after a muslim executes 50 gays on American soil, they STILL don't want to face the fact that it goes against everything they stand for.
youre a fucking idiot aren't you? he was a self hating gay who pledged allegiance to every other extremist muslim group so his daddy wouldnt find out. hes an isolated case.
meanwhile white boys have done far more mass shootings than every other ethnic group.
death to white people.
>>84238989
White women want masculine, stupid (and often times "exotic" or "mysterious") men who aren't accustomed to their bullshit tricks.
You can call me an /r9k/ browser or virgin all you want but in the end I wonbecause I stole a Muslim girl.
>>84239031
>gays are the leading threat to gays
you might wanna try that again
>>84239031
No, I'm asking you a real question. WHY are you defending a religion of hatred.
I'm a faggot and it makes me fucking sick to think about. You seriously make me fucking ill.
>>84239031
The high score for a mass shooting in U.S. property is now a middle-eastern man. Before that it was an asian man. And no domestic shooting compares to 9/11, or numerous terrorist attacks courtesy of Islam that have gone on worldwide.
>>84238099
>athiest communist
Ah, reminds me of my post-highschool edge-Lord days.
/pol/, gnostic athiesm, arguing in favor of an idealistic utopia that could never be...
Those were bad times.
You will regret this part of your life.
>>84239068
the united states of america, a christian nation, has killed more muslims than any terrorist attack.
clearly all christians are evil and should be blown up.
>>84234506
>Doom is ruthless dictator/murderer
>Hears a vampire say something that might be mildly racist (even though it's actually true and isn't even racist)
>"WOW UH RACIST MUCH? YOU'RE A WHITE MALE ARE YOU KIDDING ME DRACULA, ARE YOU KIDDING ME? IT'S 2016 I MEAN COME ON."
>>84239031
White men are also a higher population than Muslims.
Since 2001, 48 people have been killed by white terrorists in the US. Muslims have at least 76.
>>84239092
>the united states of america, a christian nation, has killed more muslims than any terrorist attack.
>>84239092
But Muslim terrorist attacks have killed more Muslims than Christians have.
>>84239109
https://www.iraqbodycount.org/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/nov/24/-sp-us-drone-strikes-kill-1147
>>84238947
If you kill your enemies, they win.
>>84239157
>literally provides a link that says muslims kill more of each other than anyone
>>84239157
>https://www.iraqbodycount.org/
Baghdad: 177 by suicide bomber, car bomb, IED.
Tuz: 1 by gunfire.
Bour: 1 by IED.
Were those US Christians?
>>84239130
and yet people want to blame all muslims in general when terrorism has hit them the hardest.
its like if your dad raped you repeatedly and then no one wants to help you because they think youre a rapist. and then you get raped again by american drones.
>>84239092
ayy lmao
>U.S. does something good
>It's an enlightened secular nation founded on euphoric secular values
>U.S. does something bad
>It's an evil Christian nation founded on intolerant Christian values
>>84238765
Islam as Dracula meant it is a culture. We know this because he's shown no concern about Muslims in the west being able to study science only a group that it is possible to have a border with.
>>84239195
in theory its supposed to be a secular nation but when all your leaders have been christian its kinda not.
>>84239160
>>84239190
I'll say this outright, I hate every single Muslim living in the first world. Every SINGLE one.
Because they're free to convert out of it here. They won't be executed for leaving their awful, hateful past ways.
BUT THEY FUCKING STICK WITH THEM. They're stubborn bigots.
>>84239179
>>84239185
>United States starts war
>destabilizes entire region, paving the way for ISIS
haha guys its not our fault its just muslims killing muslims :^)
>>84239239
you dont get how religion or really anything works do you?
go fedora tip somewhere else.
>>84239239
Even Kamala?
>>84239253
They were killing each other long before Irag and Afghanistan.
>>84238839
4chan racists can't understand that racism is not a criticism by itself every time that word is said. vlad is openly racist and doom does not give a fuck about anyone's ideology.
he's not saying "what you said is racist, vlad."
he's saying "vlad this thing you said, which happened to be racist, is retarded like the rest of you. I am so much more intelligent than every other person who ever lived and anyone who addresses me like an equal is wrong. do it again and I will go back in time with my actual time machine and fuck your mother."
but /pol/ doesn't read comics and has no deductive capability so of course this is about a point of view that is as comically wrong as their own but a polar opposite forcing their ideology into popular culture and everyone who disagrees with any part of anything they ever posted is also advocating that.
>>84239291
>he's saying "vlad, this thing you said, which happened to be racist, is retarded"
>he's not saying "what you said is racist, vlad."
Okay.
>>84239276
I don't know what you're implying I don't get. The thing about religion is that you're free to enter or leave any of them here. It's in the bill of rights, you get to choose what you believe in.
So, when they come here, and they live here, they have the CHOICE to still be bigoted, or to find something else.
And they choose to be bigoted. Are you going to ask me to defend people whose holy scripture says I should be put to death? Fuck you, anon, you fucking neo-nazi piece of shit. We fought for longer than you've been alive for our rights, I'll die before some backwoods biblethumper comes to my country and tries to take that away.
>>84239291
Islam is not a race you uneducated millennial fuckwad.
>>84239338
you arent very aware of the ick and choose nature of religion either are you?
when was the last time christians or jews stoned anyone in the streets you absolute moron?
>>84239360
racism doesn't have to be upfront to be racism you uneducated gen x fuckwad
>>84239405
Imaginary racism is not racism you uneducated millenial fuckwad.
>>84239360
Yeah, but if Dracula had just called them Turks, people wouldn't get that he means "everyone that at any time ever was ruled by the Turks and their religion"
>>84239394
Again, you aren't explaining yourself.
But the thing about christianity is that there are a fuckload of different sects to it. And plenty of those sects say "no, being gay isn't actually bad, you can be gay and christian and god will love you, based on this interpretation of the bible and what Jesus said."
Islam doesn't have any of those, because the word of Mohammed is the unerring word of god and cannot be changed. So you can't be Islam and not hate gays. At that point you're going against the word of god.
So I don't hate all christians, but I hate every muslim living in my country.
>>84239438
Greeks?
>>84239447
I don't hate Muslims, but I'm disgusted at their choice to follow that powerhungry pedophile and his 'Warlording for Dummies'.
>>84239480
Pretty sure Vlad was fine with impaling any Greeks that didn't bow to him.
>>84239405
>IT'S REAL TO ME!!!!!11
>>84239539
Pretty sure Vlad was surrounded on all sides by countries that hated him because they wanted to pay off the invaders.
>>84239333
>>84239360
you are a teen reddit user who has found their identity in shocking adults or politically minded kids around them by being racist. every time someone has addressed you using the word "racism" they have meant it as a criticism by itself.
I have created a post repeatedly hitting you over the head with the fact that you see anyone who ever writes this word as those people. you have replied by addressing me as those people.
you are the only people here who care about dracula's opinions being racism. dracula doesn't care, doom doesn't care, and I do not care. it is the word doom uses to refer to dracula's opinions because they are in agreement that that is what it is. all of us are prepared to entertain racist ideas, whereas you pretend not to so that your mother does not disown you.
doom does not think racism is wrong because it's racism. he just thinks everything thought up by a person other than doom is wrong because it is thougt up by a person other than doom.
>>84239649
>you are a teen reddit user who blub blub look at me being butthurt
Oh dear. We're barely at 150 posts. Less rants and more arguments. Please don't bore us.
Still not racism. Islam is not a race.
>>84239708
you are evidently gaining some form of satisfaction from having your posts replied to and are resolved to leave cognitive dissonance unaddressed. these things must be counteracted by berating you in every post.
if you can manage your hurt feelings and read the entire thing you'll find every "argument" of yours has also been addressed.
>>84239858
>you are evidently gaining some form of satisfaction from having your posts replied
Careful with that projector, anon, you may start a fire. I'm sure you're just replying out of a moral and noble sense of justice. Unfortunately, everybody here has seen this exact sentence used dozens of times, so nobody is convinced.
But nah, I'm not bothering with reading your rants. Do we agree that Islam is not a race and Doom was wrong in stating that?
>>84239980
you sure are showing off your argumentative skills by disregarding 200 word posts as "rants". did you get your education from popular youtube videos?
>"Wow, Dracula was being racist"
>"Uh no he wasn't, he said Islam was bad"
>"Well we all KNOW he meant Middle Easterners"
How do you strive so hard to be a multicultural globalist cuckold and still be this ignorant about the world around you?
> a mystical viral package such as yourself
Now Doom, that's just rude.
>>84240050
>still not answering the question
At this point it's clear you just want to have the last word. I'll be glad to play along as much as I can.
people who use the phrase "argumentative skills" aren't qualified to call anyone else "teen reddit users"
>>84240098
>backwoods virgin rednecks from /pol/ know more about other cultures than SJWs because they spend all day studying them
>>84240098
You've come to the right (left) place to ask this question.
>>84240133
Unlike SJWs which certainly do?
>>84240115
(You) are open about making no effort to address criticism. we're in agreement that you're completely worthless.
>>84240148
SJWs ironically do very little research on other cultures because they believe going to college makes them inherently more intelligent. Many don't even know how to do proper research because professors tend to be really shit about ensuring that.
>>84234506
Because he's a stupid gypsy. He is smart at fake blacktopping some old lady's driveway
>>84240203
I'm sorry, anon. I'll make sure to address all accusations about being a reddit teenager in the future afraid of my mother disowning me. Such elegant discourse deserves much more than my uncouth dismissal.
Is Islam a race or not? Your turn!
>>84240133
And we all know the excellent record of Marvel for researching other cultures.
>>84234506
Becuase Paul Cornell is a retard with a luxurious holiday cuckshed he keeps in Sweden.
Remember, Doom's true superpower is always being right, whenever he's wrong it's either the writer's fault or that ACCURSED RICHARDS
>>84240322
It's probably just a doombot anyways. And if not he's just baiting Dracula.
>>84240249
triggering-free conversations are found on another website. my words have hurt your feelings. you must live with that, but you cannot demand a rematch.
>>84239225
"No"
>>84239225
I don't think you know what secular means...
>>84240377
and I'm just sitting here hoping you'll answer the anon's question
>>84240899
to support the pretense that he's having some sort of debate, not just fishing an imageboard for (You)s?
the (You)s are all you get. for a real conversation, you must behave like a person.
>>84241132
He did a far better job of that than you though. Lol.
>>84239031
I came here for comics, not this lefty apologist bullshit bait.
Fucking /co/ man
>>84239031
>he was a self hating gay
Literally no evidence of that apart from unreliable witness testimony
>>84241132
Yeah, nah. Answer his question, as now you're just evading. You could instantly settle this entirely but you choose to behave like a child. Just popped in this thread and read your replies you're getting, and it seems no one is taking you seriously. Peace out, already exited out of the thread. Next time just reply to him an answer.
>>84238861
>not sikh gains
absolutely haraam
>>84239031
>this is what leftists actually convince themselves so they don't have to face up to the fact they've been supporting a creed that despises everything they stand for.
>is islam a race?
I dunno, is buddhism a race?
The answer may surprise you!
>>84238848
What's it like to be so completely and utterly retarded and blinded by hatred that you literally can't see the 100s of millions of people in that religion who don't want that?
>>84243174
If they don't want that then why do they belong to a religion that does?
>>84243174
At least half of them do.
>>84243174
>who don't want that
Man, how cucked can you be? I bet you'd watch your daughter get raped by a town of Muzzies and while she was getting raped you'd yell NOT ALL MUSLIMS NOT ALL MUSLIMS
>>84242797
you keep posting stupider shit so that you'll have made headway if you get the same kind of reply as previous.
>>84243245
Why do christians belong to a religion that advocates the stoning of rape victims?
>>84243249
Even if that were true then at least half don't, that's almost 1/10 of the world's population, to generalise them based on the beliefs of people related by one characteristic is fucking retarded.
>>84243273
Cool argument pal, you sure convinced me.
>>84243363
I dunno anon, why don't you ask a Christian about it?
>>84243363
I generalize them based on the beliefs written down in their holy book.
And also how any country with a muslim majority behaves. Which is fucking terrible.
>>84243363
Was this you on the eve of the Orlando shooting?
>>84243386
Almost every major holy book advocates similar if not the same behaviour multiple times, generalising Muslims based on the actions of literally less than 1% of their population is fucking stupid, like generalising the beliefs of every American with the Bush administration or of every German in the 30s/40s with the Nazi party.
>>84243412
No, I think I'd rather take into account more factors than the colour of someone's skin or their religion when they commit an act like that given that it's pretty clearly at least partially a result of other factors since there's at least one muslim in the world who hasn't gone on a killing spree.
>>84243485
Alright, buddy. Keep living in your liberal hippie bubble, then.
>>84243485
>generalising Muslims based on the actions of literally less than 1% of their population is fucking stupid
But I'm not. Most Muslims live in Muslim countries. Where it's often legal to stone women who are raped. And have death sentences for being gay.
>>84243485
But anon, you can LITERALLY CHOOSE not to be muslim
You can go "yeah this shit is fucking awful i don't believe this" and leave
If you don't, you willingly support the stoning of women and execution of gays.
This is a fact that you are ignoring.
>>84239649
>repeatedly hitting you over the head
KYS
>>84238659
On the contrary, the SJWs will finally have real issues to cry about.
This PC nonsense only comes about when there are Democratic Presidents and things aren't going so badly.
>>84234579
>Christianity was founded in the Middle East
>Islam was believed to be founded in the 7th century, over 600 years after Christianity
Nigga...
>>84239253
>US puts muslims in power instead of letting a murderous, but secular, leader rape, torture and kill them
>it's the US's fault the muslims kill each other instead of living peacefully
"ok"
>>84237860
What in the actual fuck did I just read
Do they just make up dumb fucking words??
Fictionkin I assume is someone who identifies as a fictional character, yes?
And they're mad that somebody who does this (who is clearly mentally unstable) that is white identifies with a character who they're shipping with a poc?
Do they just literally invent shit to get mad about now? I'm so confused
>>84234506
>It will close the gap with the west, in terms of science
He he, oh man.
Only if they blew up every university and science institute on earth.
(which they will eventually try to do)
Trump 2016
>>84235180
Marvel's Dracula is not the historic person Vlad the Impaler, pretty much no-one has written him with a realistic slant for his backstory. The shit Dracula does has no bearing on the author's ideas on the historic person. He's just an evil entity wishing to rule the world as the king of vampires.
Wait, am I seeing Dr. Doom and Dracula having a casual conversation on the moon here?
>>84234506
what's the source on this? It's cool to see Dracula being used in modern comics, I think he has a lot of potential. I think a Dr. Doom, Namor, Dracula book would be really interesting think Illuminati meets Thunderbolts
>>84243780
>But anon, you can LITERALLY CHOOSE not to be muslim
>You can go "yeah this shit is fucking awful i don't believe this" and leave
Well, you say that, but depending on where said Muslim lives apostasy is punished with the death penalty.
>>84245783
yeah and The Watcher is standing behind them along with the Inhumans, that's modern Marvel for you
>>84245783
Neutral territory, it's what needed for any good parley.
>>84245890
I fucking love comic books.
>>84234506
yeah
>>84238861
As someone who's worked and traveled and fought throughout the Middle East and Central Asia, I can tell you that pedophilia is rampant on a scale beyond what you can imagine there. One large town in Iraq, Pakistan, etc probably has more pedophilic acts going on than all of a Western nation combined.
This isn't a case where you can go "BUT WHITE PEOPLE ARE PAEDOS TOO!" It's on an entirely different scale.
>>84238782
Actually that was mostly due to them having extant libraries and lying in between the West and China.
And they had extant libraries not because Christianity was shit (actually Christianity was what kept rational government and intellectual activity alive in the West after the decline of the Western Roman Empire) but because most of the West of Europe suffered a societal collapse, the removal of civilian elites and replacement wiht foreign military elites and the decline of a rational tax-collecting administration which meant that wealth and population was not at the levels necessary to support intellectual activity on the same scale.
>>84239092
Absolute nonsense of the highest order. The overwhelming amount of Muslims killed over the last 15 years in Iraq and Afghanistan have been by other Muslims. US and Coalition action has barely killed any in the grand scheme of things; a tiny percentage compared to how much they've been slaughtering each other.
>>84240148
They actually don't. At all. They get strange ideas about what cultures are, mix up culture, religion, race, tribe, nation, all the time (when those distinctions are INSANELY IMPORTANT) and then yell at people when they don't conform to those stereotypes for acting 'white' and betraying their own culture.
>>84236772
But that's not true the wage gap hasent existed for decades
>>84243485
No, it doesn't. Read some actual theology and stop basing your perception of Christianity on American fundamentalist sects.
Also Islam is inherently different to Christianity because even back in the Early Medieval Period, there was a ton of theological debate going on about the true meaning of the Bible, whether to use this Greek source which has been heavily annotated or this Hebrew source which is incomplete, etc and so on. In Islam, the matter is decided. You cannot challenge the words at all. The words in the Qu'ran are perfect and can't even be translated into other languages without losing some of their meaning. You can only challenge how far you want to go with them.
>>84249450
Also, you have to remember that Muslims didn't preserve books because they didn't even exist when the decline happened. What happened is that they conquered areas of the Byzantine Empire where books were still circulated and then, after burning and destroying a few, preserved some of them for trading purposes mostly and to show off how they were now the inheritors of God's will.
>>84249528
I wish this "Christianity vs. Islam" meme would die.
Its Shitlam vs. civilized society.
>>84239095
I get the feeling doom just felt his motives were racist despite his stated intentions
Without further context I'm inclined to think doom is right because the man is a fucking genius.
Then again this comic seems to be set hundreds of years ago when pretty much the only way information could be spread was through people moving around the world so maybe doom is just paranoid here.
>>84238659
>>84249614
But that requires thinking about the issue instead of feeling clever for correcting it. That doesn't support my view so it must be wrong.
>>84249614
Oh I forgot to add I certainly don't think marvel isn't filled with social justice shit they are I just don't think this is an example of it.
>>84249614
>>84249757
Wait I just noticed the u.s flag so it's not quite as long ago as I thought
If it's indeed set in the present day then yeah Dracula is either retarded, racist or xenophobic if he thinks that's a real problem to his empire that can be fixed with genocide.
>>84234683
Christians are now a race you can no longer criticise the Bible
>>84234506
Because comicbook writers are dumb.
>>84236847
>had
Technically it did, unless you mean serfs.
>>84236392
Doom is, oddly enough, more moderate. His people have a significant amount of freedom within the borders of their country. No imbalance of rights between genders or race. The laws are harsh but fair and so long as you don't break them you can do pretty much whatever you want.
As anon also said, Doom is a legitimate Head of State. He is the internationally recognized leader of Latveria
>>84237048
>isn't doctor doom the bad guy?
He's not the chaotic AHAHA EVIL sort of bad guy. Doom looks out for Doom, and gets more power for Doom.
Outside of his massive complex against Reed Richards, he doesn't have much time for petty bias
>>84234506
Why do leftists never consider Hindus a race though? It's the largest most ethnically homogeneous followed religion. Why do they never talk about Jihad in India and Nepal and Muslims views on paganism? Hinduism is pagan. By leftist logic, if "Muslim" is a race they fucking Nazis now.
>>84250219
>He's not the chaotic AHAHA EVIL sort of bad guy.
>HAHA! I'm master of the world!
Doom can get pretty hammy evil when he wants to be.
>>84250174
>The laws are harsh but fair and so long as you don't break them you can do pretty much whatever you want.
Except emigrate.
>>84250287
It's been a long time since the whole TOOT thing and "Give me all your countries!"
>>84250291
Well, I mentioned within the borders of their country earlier and didn't feel like repeating myself. Sorry for any confusion
>>84250174
Good thing DOOM is untouchable, otherwise he'd probably be getting raped to death with a knife and Hillary would be having a nice chuckle about it.
>>84236594
Its cus race never existed.
>Dr Doom is a virtue signalling regressive with no patience for Draculas "Racism"
Villains these days. What a time to be alive.
>>84250432
Well this was like 5 years ago.
DOOM was ahead of the curve on this one.
>>84236781
Turkroach shill
>>84234579
Fun fact: middle easterners are 20% of muslims.
>>84234683
muslims don't fall into either of those categories
>>84236629
>why would a person like doom even care about such pity things like racism in the first place
...because he was a victim of it at a young age and lost both parents to it? I mean, seriously.
>>84234506
Because only one kind of people willingly convert to Islam: trash people.
>>84250717
>...because he was a victim of it at a young age and lost both parents to it? I mean, seriously.
Do tyrannical dictators who do villainous shit daily even get sentimental to something so trivial? It's a cop out. He's DOOM and he takes issue with racism? Gtfo
>>84250727
Christianity is actually the leading religion in converting people, followed by much smaller religions. Islam is only the fastest growing religion in the world because of birth rates.
>>84250755
Why just because he's a villain does he have to be ok with every kind of evil?
>>84236392
No, other then the fact that Doom is an amazing ruler who legitimately makes life great for his people and is loved by them, and is actually recognized as the Head of State by the rest of the world. And has morals.
>>84234506
Simple answer: In that scene, it wasn't the real Doom that was talking, it was a Doombot, which obviously doesn't have Dr.Doom's entire intellect.
Well, at least that's my headcanon.
>>84250771
Because it's stupid. He's a character who has zero qualms with murder or enslaving people for personal gain but he should find people who don't like other peoples skin colour off-putting and evil? It's Ridiculous.
>>84250755
This is the kind of thinking that gets us shit like Unthinkable. The ''He's not morally white so he should be completely black''. Doom, Magneto, and even Loki, aren't pure evil. Doom:
>spent his whole life trying to saved his mother's soul from Hell (and pulled it off, cause he's DOOM)
>is loved by his people to a near cult-level because of how good he makes their lives
>saved Sue and Valeria
>cares deeply about Valeria
>despises killing for it's own sake
And other shit like that. Granted, he's extremely arrogant, vain, petty, and is haunting poor Reed just because he can't admit he made a mistake, but he isn't PURE evil. And he cares about his parents very much, so yes, he takes great issue with discrimination.
>>84250755
Why do you want villains who aren't shaped by their childhood experiences, but instead are just the same kind of extreme evil where they don't care about anything? Not even Dracula's been fully evil all the time, and that guy doesn't even have his soul left.
>>84250808
I realize context is important and there are varying degrees of morality but are you seriously fucking telling me someone with dooms track record should have the gall to judge racists? lmao
>>84250805
He doesn't find it "evil", he finds it petty and primitive.
If you need to profile across an entire population group to find your enemies then that just means your intelligence just good enough to be exact.
For DOOM knows all.
>>84250805
>He's a character who has zero qualms with murder
>You mean just like Punisher, Black Widow, Wolverine, and Thor? Yea, those guys are PURE evil.
>or enslaving people
Gee, i wish i was ''enslaved'' by Doom. Free healthcare and education, job security, stable economy, absolute security and safety, man, it's hell on earth, i tell you.
>>84250808
>so yes, he takes great issue with discrimination
So he supports Islam?
>>84250805
Doom sees himself as killing and enslaving for the greater good. A world ruled by him would be better off. Conversely, he sees nothing good coming from petty racism(unless he has to trick a racist into working for him) because it doesn't matter what skin-colour or culture you have if you can be used by Doom to build his empire, and because he's got personal history of that shit.
>>84250821
>are you seriously fucking telling me someone with dooms track record should have the gall to judge racists
Funnily, the good Doom did outweighs the bad. He never manages to actually succeed in his evil plans and anyone important he kills is eventually revived, but all the times he's saved the world and helped heroes and saved lives, those stick. Hell, he saved the freaking MULTIVERSE while the supposed smartest men in the world had their thumbs up their assess doing fuck all, that should give him a clean slate all on it's own. Not to mention just taking care of his people so well for so long.
And you DO realize the the main reason he's Dr Doom is his parents' unjust deaths? So yea, he'll take issue with any type of discrimination.
>>84250825
You mean the religion that discriminates based on sex and sexual orientation? Doom would stomp those motherfuckers out faster then you can say: ''Why are all of out suicide bombers going off in our bases during the preparations?''
>>84250816
No, I want consistancy. I want Villains who have more realistic motivations and personalities. I know this is a comic book character and far fetched is their bread and butter but at least some consistency would be appreciated. Doom cares about the plight of his people and country for vanity sake. He's a psychopath so that might explain why he feels hating Islam is racist, he's simply virtue signalling and parroting himself like said >>84236392
>>84250824
Subtle difference. Context, for the most part yeah, black widow, punisher and wolverine are evil.
>>84250831
That makes more sense, it's still stupid to hate racists because of a moral quandary.
