Superman thread?
Because I wanna chat Supermythology but mods pruned the last one.
Not counting earth 23, who's your favourite parallel earth Superman?
>>84167480
Earth 2 and Kingdom come
>>84168984
Alex Ross' Superman just feels like the definitive Superman.
>>84169000
Just came from the Miller thread and came to shit, huh?
>>84167480
I like Zack Snyder's Superman. Still a hero despite being in a worse universe. Very inspiring.
Earth-Two Superman, followed by post-Crisis. Post-Crisis seems to be the one new fans understand the least. Maybe I'll storytime Man of Steel.
>>84169832
Do it. I've been wanting to read that one for a while now. How long is it?
I LOVE ALL SUPERMANS :)
Superman from "Brave new metropolis" was pretty good. best evil uniform too.
>>84169622
LOVE HIM TOO
>>84169622
Me too. I really enjoy henry cavill's take on supes, all due respect to christopher reeves.
I pretty much like all versions of superman in the comics. DCAU superman was cool as fuck, never cared much for justice league though.
I think Brandon Routh was an underrated Superman. Shame about his movie, but as Superman he was alright
>>84169970
>I pretty much like all versions of superman in the comics. DCAU superman was cool as fuck, never cared much for justice league though.
henry cavill' He is the perfect superman :) I LOVE HIM MORE THAN BATMAN..
>>84169954
bigger version
what do GUYS you think of superdaddy ?I like him more than Batman NOW.
>>84169622
I didn't have a big problem with Man of Steel Supes.
BvS Superman just came off asshole-ish
>>84170040
wow cool :)
He is so cute !
My top 2 favorite incarnations are...
>Mos/Bvs
>Tas
Honestly I have gown sympathetic to the Dark Knight Returns Superman, the animated films really fucked up leaving out his monologue while he was fighting the Russians.
Its clear that he has given up his free will to save his friends from being hunted down and harmed. Its a act of sacrifice, I can't stand when people dismiss him as a sellout.
Key words in pic related...
>"let us live"
>>84170120
This is the most casual post I've ever seen
Superman Doomsday final fight.that brings me to tears.. he is a hero.
>>84169917
>>84169970
>>84170017
I really liked the First Flight scene. IMO best superhero film moment, maybe even regular film moment, of all time. I liked how he basically looked like: "yeah, jumping is nice, but what if I pushed a little further?" Then how his first attempt didn't work, and he tried again. It was amazing.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=VlINHSnUx9k
>>84170264
>>84170293
>>84169622
>>84170111
I honestly believe if given the right material Cavill would be a great Superman. I just wish the films had a different creative team (please don't kill me I'm just not a fan of Zack Snyder).
>>84169000
>Batman's bones turning to dust
Jesus Christ that's horrifying
>>84170259
I am pretty sure the people that dismiss TDKReturns Superman as a sell out fascist douche are more casual.
>>84170312
i just love him ,,
>>84170312
That's fine; it's not for everyone. It could be interesting to see how different it would be if there was a different director for the Man of Steel sequel.
>>84170358
Well he is a handsome boy.
>>84170393
cute,
I love this suit so fucking much!
>>84167480
I like it when Superman uses strategy. Is there a comic where he uses his cape for an attack? I was going to write a story where he does that, in order to combat the Incredibles cape meme.
Who would make for an interesting villain in Man of Steel 2? I'd go for Brainiac, but maybe that's the easy choice?
It would be trippy to see Mr. Mxyzptlk, having them battle in the 5th dimension would be some crazy Cgi.
People say Snyder put the nuke in just to homage TDKR and maybe so to a extent with the skeleton and such.
But I think the scene owed more to pic related...
>>84170426
>I have come from the basketball planet to save you
>>84167480
Superman's design was based on strong men from circuses that used to be prevalent during the Golden Age. But his design has many resemblances to certain depictions of Micheal Archangel. He is the humbler of all evil, he carries great power but always use in the name of a greater good. He fights the fights that we can't so that one day we can finally save ourselves.
Superman is willing to put many things in the line to protect humanity, even his own life. That's part of his charm and one of the reasons why the Superman=Jesus analogy just doesn't work. He isn't anywhere similar to Christ in theology.
The Sun (his source of power) is also a symbol of greater good and the Idea of Good. Which Plato relates to the inner greatness that all living beings should reach.
On another point, he is the son of a farmer and is very related to the natural process of life, which makes him part of Earth even if he himself comes from a very different place.
He is also a reporter trying to find truth anywhere he goes (even putting himslef at odds with the Planet when the paper became a source for tabloid celebrity gossip in the New52, which was a very interesting thing to do).
Finally, he can see your soul. This means that he values life even if he understands that death is imminent (which may explain why the guy is so against killing and yet doesn't preach about in Hitman). This is important, specially when you consider that he is also trying to represent justice.
Most of his problems comes from very human places. Such as self doubt, a love hate relationship with his kryptonian side and the struggle not to fail to his comrades or himself. And sure, a huge interplanetary fight that can be seen across galaxies are always an spectacle to watch.
Superman is one of the favorite character for fantasy writers for a good reason. He is fun to write, he isn't limited by many things other than the cosmos itself and it's own very humane nature.
>>84170120
>>84170333
well fact is he did sell out.
he criticizes batman for his "Holy war" but he became a government stooge so he could "save lives". he's become a tool of the US Govt, which is something Superman would never stand for. he's deceiving himself. he tries to rationalize it, but the fact is he had all the power in the world to say no and retire like everyone else, but he was just as selfish as he calls Bruce.
>"they let us live"
What's the government gonna do if he says no? kill him? the guy who is bulletproof, has laser vision, and as later shown- can tank a nuke?
>>84170463
Brainiac that would be cool..or darkseid
>>84170487
> Rubber/Leather > Cloth
>>84170490
Well said.
>>84170371
Thanks. The thing you have to love about Superman is there is so many interpretations of him out there for everyone. From the immigrant stand in brawler of the late 30s, the dickish dadish one of the 50s, the god like figure of All Star, the old man returning to the world turned on him from Kingdom Come.
I just want more of Capitan Atom from Earth 4.
Him and Sunshine Superman.
>>84170546
Cloth is infinitely better, but I look at the suits in TASM/MoS as just cloth with that texture overlayed onto it.
Also basketball texture kicks ass, niggas gotta stop hatin'.
DEATH OF SUPERMAN by Spidermonkey23
>>84170517
>say no and retire like everyone else
Wtf.
The lives he can save are immeasurably more important then fucking spiting in the face of authority like a pathetic child.
Their is nothing fucking wrong with working for the government, he is the only god damn thing standing between Russia and WW3.
The Russians launching the nuke out of spite just because we dared to protect a defenseless island full of people from enslavement and starvation proves they are the bad guys in this universe.
>>84170645
Man I hope henry looks like that in justice league. Love the return of superman costume
Superman's my favorite superhero. God, I love Superman.
>>84169622
>>84169970
>>84170312
No, see, ZACK SNYDER'S Superman is awful. Henry Cavill's Superman would actually be pretty damn good if they got someone else to direct him.
If a Man of Steel standalone sequel is ever made and let's say Zack Snyder doesn't return, who'd you want to direct?
Cavill and Affleck both kick ass and are being held back by their director.
I liked BvS, but all of it's flaws are clearly from Snyder. And I don't even hate the guy, but his current style does not suit them.
Keep him on for action scenes or whatever, but someone else has to take control of the story and character arcs.
>>84170779
the guy of the first thor movie..or ben
>>84170779
Cary Fukunaga if they are keeping it serious.
>>84170459
in american alien or whatever it was called he mentioned he needed it for sharp turns
What's with all the weird ironic shitposting itt?
>>84170459
It's incredibly durable. He's used it a few times to shield people from explosions and shit.
>>84170779
I personally can't see anyone else besides Snyder desu.
He needs to be less involved with dialogue and character arcs and more involved with visual stuff though. His scenes and use of cgi are golden, he knows how to make a good fight scene
>>84170647
then he has no right to criticize Batman for coming out of retirement, and he had no right to convince everyone to go along with retirement
>>84170878
Probably mousedrones
>>84170961
Yes he sure as fuck does have the right to do so if them not going into retirement is getting innocents killed.
>>84170996
Fucking AWESOME! Thanks for posting this!!
>>84171026
No probs.
>>84170536
But Darkseid's gonna be in the second justice league movie
>>84170111
Looks more like that pencil pushing Clark Kent fellow.
This is a Superman thread, friend.
>>84172061
Clark Kent is Superman's pal though. There should be a thread all about Superman's pals.
So what do you think is going to happen to New52 Supes? Especially with Old Supes being there now. Is he even going to come back?
>>84172136
Why hasn't Clark Kent had his own book yet?
You know, as in, Superman's Pal Clark Kent.
Jimmy Olsen got one, Clark's been a big part of the Superman comics for the longest time. Yet, nothing.
>>84172168
Action Comics #1000. Isn't it obvious?
>>84172249
That seems like a ways away. How's he even supposed to come back? He kinda turned to dust and his weird energy bolt thing split off into 4 pieces.
>>84172421
Comic books.
>>84170924
I really don't care for how he directs fights. The fights in man of steel just looked too goofy for me. I think those fleischer cartoons had better action.
>>84170017
Is that Damianfag?
>>84169832
That'd be cool. I've read very little Post-Crisis Supes as a newer reader. I was going to go back and read basically the whole run starting from Man of Steel, but ended up being crazy and going back to Action Comics #1 and starting there.
It's been a weird ride so far.
>>84172572
But their was literally nothing goofy about them.
Death Of Superman would have been amazing, if they took their time a fleshed Superman a bit more. Like in 2 more movies or so.
>>84170996
>neo-supes
triggered
>>84170924
Idk man, I liked both Man of Steel and BvS a lot but I also want a Superman movie where the sun shines bright.
Why doesn't Superman just use the thought robot to rape Grant Morrison?
>>84167480
This looks like a job for...
So what's so funny about truth, justice, and the American way?
Fuck the hate, MoS Supes looks cool.
We just gotta accept red undies and spitcurl aren't cool looking anymore.
And I'm not just saying this cause this was the first Superman image I came across on my tablet and am too lazy to find more.
>To put it another way, there's a scene from a few years ago where he's talking to another younger Kryptonian about their super senses and the kid goes into the stuff Snyder does. He goes "How can you deal with all the screaming and hate and bad things in your senses"? and Clark sits the kid down and goes "By listening for the good parts; for mothers meeting their newborns for the first time, for a guy playing fetch with his dog, for people exchanging wedding vows." THAT is who Clark is.
Anyone know what story that's from?
>>84170120
>>Mos/Bvs
>>Tas
How do you reconcile that they're nothing alike?
>>84176572
They brought the spitcurl back in BvS thankfully
>>84176587
I like fun happy Superman as long as it doesn't go into camp much, hence TAS.(Plus the universe of tas had several of my favorite versions of various characters, Lex, Metallo, Braniac)
But I also strongly like serious toned sci-fi focused Superman with a more grounded realistic world aroubd him hence MOS/BVS. (While at the same time I dislike the similar Earth One)
>>84176587
>incapable of liking different versions of the same character
lol
>>84176689
>But I also strongly like serious toned sci-fi focused Superman with a more grounded realistic world aroubd him hence MOS/BVS. (While at the same time I dislike the similar Earth One)
I just hate the writing. I feel like Clark/Superman in both MoS an BvS is barely there, and presented as a passive, reactive character.
So much of both films hinges on having a mental template of who superman is already supposed to be or how he behaves and I feel like both stories make critical omissions.
>>84176876
>>incapable of liking different versions of the same character
>lol
God forbid I not like every asinine twist on a character.
The 2015 RoboCop sure was a landmark of cinema!
>>84176958
>WAHHHH STOP WHAT I DON'T LIKE
>>84167480
Pre Crisis Superman>Post crisis superman
>>84176261
Keep up Kent! Let's see, where to begin? The unflinching hypocrisy of it all? Pie on the sill and bombs in the sky? Zeitgeists of shopping and crass consumerism to distract from crimes too vast to fully comprehend? Young minds held down to run the machines? Xanax profits up as the drug war continues? Maybe you should pay more attention farm boy...
Oh. Whoops.
*poof*
>>84177820
it's tough being Superman when people expect too much out of you
>>84177812
Kltpzyxm
Probably this one, just because he's the take on superman that just went super nerdy it seems.
>>84178210
Landis wrote this right? Supes was uncharacteristically mean like a smug asshole in this issue.
>>84178223
fucking kek
Who's your favorite superman inspired hero
Remember the time Sup's want to stop Lois from falling for Pat "fucking" Boone of all people .
Remember when Jimmy Olsen found out about superman's identity
>>84178376
Captain Marvel. All the goodness of supes and less bullshit since he's not continuity heavy like supes
Remember when Superman talked to Hal about responsibility
>>84178610
That scene in Birthright where the Daily Planet lies and moves the dinner reservation hit me hard.
He was sitting inside having dinner alone and he could super here all his colleagues drinking at the pub down the road.
>>84178376
Apollo (with Midnighter for banter), Flex Mentallo, Power Girl, the Marvels, Sodam Yat.
>>84178798
Why can't we have this. That would be the perfect Superman.
>>84178835
BEHOLD, KAL-EL, I HAVE DEFEATED YOU ACROSS THE MULTIVERSE. YOUR AUTHORS ARE MY SLAVES, YOUR STORY IS THE STORY OF ANTI-LIFE. YOU HAVE FAILED. YOU WERE ALWAYS DESTINED TO FAIL. ALLOW YOUR LAST GLIMMER OF HOPE TO FADE FROM MIND.
THE REPOSITORY OF EARTH 33 HAS SUBMITTED TO ANTI-LIFE. WITNESS HOW THEIR MAGICIAN COULD NOT SAVE THEM. THEY TOIL AND DIE FOR DARKSEID NOW. THEIR PEOPLE KILL, LIKE THEIR HERO SUPERMAN. THEY SIT ALONE IN THEIR ROOMS, OBSESSED WITH MONEY AND DEATH, MASTURBATING TO HARLEY QUINN ON COMMAND. YOUR TRINITY IS IN TATTERS, THE MULTIVERSE DEFENSELESS.
DARKSEID COMICS HAVE PRODUCED THE ULTIMATE MEMETIC WEAPON. ANTI-LIFE MEDIA BROADCAST WORLDWIDE SIMULTANEOUSLY TO THE PEOPLE OF EARTH 33, ATTACKING THE CORE MEANING OF YOUR SIGILS ACROSS 52 DIMENSIONS.
YOU WILL SUBMIT TO ANTI-LIFE. KILL. FUCK. DIE ON COMMAND.
DIE! DIE FOR DARKSEID.
>>84178900
>>84178930
>>84172222
he had his own back up stories though. that sorta counts.
Private Life of Clark Kent i believe
A Superman who accepts when his methods are not working and changes to actually bring betterment to the World.
A Superman that can show real growth.
>>84178338
What's this from?
>superman will never be written as a paternalistic loner who suffers from survivors guilt and spends most of his time pranking bad guys and his friends
again
its like DC doesn't want me to read superman
>>84178376
Batman
Can someone please story time the Superman meets Pat Boone issue.
>>84178773
Wow, Supes looks so young.
Hollywood likes Youthful Superman apparently
>>84167480
The best Superman of recent years.
>>84179404
>>84179424
Superman gives me hope.
>>84169556
Superman the one hero Garth Ennis likes.
Is there a Superman essential/recommended readings list that someone can post?
>>84179659
I'd recommend All Star Superman, What Ever Happend To Truth Justice And The American Way, Kingdom Come, Red Son, John Byrne's Man of Steel, American Alien, and Lois and Clark.
>>84179736
*But what do I know I'm a pleb.
>>84179736
>American Alien
Go home, Landis.
>>84172222
Have you checked out Up Up and Away? It's basically just Clark Kent: Ace Reporter for the first half. Superman is pretty prominent in the latter half though.
There's a surprising lack of All-Star Superman. Why?
>>84179736
>>84179659
These, plus Superman: Secret Identity, and JLA volume 3. Also you may appreciate All-Star even more if you read some other good Superman stories before it. Never start off with All-Star unless someone can only be convinced to read one comic. It's great fun on its own but it's even richer in tone if you're intimately familiar with the themes and mythos already, and feel like Superman's pal yourself.
Plus maybe a reread of Final Crisis and Multiversity when you're all done everything else.
>>84170459
He used his cape against Wraith in Scott Snyder's Superman Unchained.
>>84177914
Well, there's a contrast....
>>84178376
>No Ultra Comics
>>84179736
>>84179931
Very helpful, thanks for the recommendations.
>>84179853
He, E23, TAS, and Red Son are all too obvious to post more than a token number of times. There are a lot of people in the extended superfamily out there. Plus lost Kryptonians, Daxamites, time travel, and multiversal archetypes.
Personally I like movie Faora a lot for no other reason than her actor was a boss in the role. She owned the screentime despite every single line of dialogue she was given being cringeworthy and terrible. If the DCEU continues I'd like to see her back as a major villain leading a kryptonian army out of the phantom zone or whatever. Let her chew some scenery and then blow up some other cgi scenery.
>>84170463
Bizarro. Played by Nic Cage.
>>84179043
>>84179852
True, true. But the latter half seems to always ignore the story thread of Kent. It's really weird how they tell about this reporter, which never seems to even be in the same place as Superman oddly enough, and never conclude his stories.
Does anybody have those pages of Superman meeting Billy Batson for the first time and getting ripshit pissed at The Wizard?
>>84170490
>Superman is willing to put many things in the line to protect humanity, even his own life. That's part of his charm and one of the reasons why the Superman=Jesus analogy just doesn't work.
Uh, how does being willing to sacrifice his life for humanity make him unlike Jesus?
He even comes back to life after he dies (though that's just dc not wanting to kill him off for good)
>>84177847
I don't even like superman that much but fuck.
>>84181175
He was supposed to be based on the Jewish messiah as well, so it's funny that there's so much Jesus comparison. Jews get triggered.
>>84178376
>Jms's Hyperion
>Hickman's Hyperion
Mister Majestic caught my eye recently.
Wish Ed Macgness didn't draw almost all his stuff.
>>84178376
Tell me about these guys?
Can somebody please post the comic where Superman talks to a jumper?
I don't mean the single page where he says the doctor got held up.
As far as I can recall, it was maybe a dozen pages and started with Superman talking to a couple of cops. I also remember the jumper making Superman promise that if she still decided to jump, that he wouldn't save her.
I'd be grateful if somebody could dump please
Superman listens to the vibration of souls, has sung gods to death, controlled inter-dimensional ships made out of frozen music, and dabbled with every instrument on a dozen worlds in his silver age days.
Have the Supermen of the multiverse ever formed a band together?What kind of band would it be?
>>84182573
Statesman is a mixture of Captain America and Superman from the City of Heroes universe.
He was a broke orphan taken in by the family of the man who would later become Lord Recluse, the Doctor Doom analogue. They were adventurers and fought in World War 1 as mercenaries. Recluse got Mustard gassed something fierce, so the two of them sought some way to help him, ultimately finding an ancient well containing the power of the Greek Gods though I don't think they knew about all of that.
Statesman gained the powers of Zeus, lightning, super strength, flight. Recluse got the powers of Thanatos. They had a falling out and Statesman returned to America during the depression and age of prohibition. He took to fighting organized crime that the cops couldn't handle and became the poster boy for vigilantes turned heroes. Over time he trained new heroes and helped found a number of not Justice Leagues. He did not age, or aged really slowly, and continued to fight all kinds of monsters, alien and demonic invasions, alternate universes and super villain leagues while raising his demigod children to take up the mantle as well. He had a falling out with the US government during the McCarthyism days when they nuked Vietnam while he was still over there but was generally on agreeable terms with them in the decades past.
>>84184904
Sounds cool.
>>84184904
City of heroes was my first mmo
i still have the print comics from the monthly subs and the heroclix figs from the city of villains special edition
RIP MY CHILDHOOD
>>84184987
I was so pissed we didn't get to play out more stuff with the Praetorian universe.
I still love CoX because of it's amalgam of all kinds of cape comics and stories. I also think the first mutants being children conceived after the atom bombings in World War 2 was a nice touch rather than just having them solely evolved in time to be a thing while other heroes are coming to be.
>>84185032
>it was a good universe, I just regret being a shitter kid and not getting into the end game content as much before it all went to hell
>>84170120
Your reason for like Dark Knight Returns Superman are really weird.
Also, while talking about this I'm totally not including Dark Knight Strikes Again and the bottle-city of Kandor stuff because I don't think Miller had come up with that in 85.
Superman in Dark Knight Returns gave up being a hero because he didn't think that mankind wanted heroes. He talks about the Parents groups and shit as well as how "we can't show them giants walk the earth".
He works for the government because he still gets to be a bit of a hero without displeasing mankind.
Batman throws a fucking wrench into that when his own heroism saves Gotham while Superman's "government endorsed" heroism led to countless deaths.
It's why he gives Carrie Kelly the wink at the end. Superman has been given faith in heroes by Batman (like the reverse of Batman v Superman).
Also, Superman is unapologetically a Sun-God in Dark Knight Returns which is always my favorite portrayal of Superman.
>pic pseudo-related
>>84170206
Mah nigga!
>>84170426
BALD! BALD! BALD! BALD!
>>84170645
We can dream.
>>84177914
Cereal King is emo and Tomasi is hopeful I'm assuming?
>>84178376
I really like The Plutonian and The Homelander.
>>84178296
You're not telling me Landis has a really dumb interpretation of pretty much the entire Justice League including and especially Superman are you?!
That's just... Well my good Sir, that's factually correct!
>>84167480
I really love the universality of Superman, he truly is the definitive and probably most beloved hero in comics, almost every creator likes him; Moore does, Morrison does, Waid does and even Ennis likes him.
>>84179736
>American Alien
Go home Max Landis!
>>84167480
Dean Cain
>>84175237
Because he needs Ultramans help to pilot the thing. And ironically, Ultrman doesn't want to rape Grant Morrison.
>>84176572
I don't mind a lack of the red undies, it's definitely a relic of the golden age. But they do help balance the color.
The spit curl is nearly as iconic as the S though.
>>84176572
>We just gotta accept red undies and spitcurl aren't cool looking anymore.
Speak for yourself. I can't wait for them to come back
>>84184821
Well the Ultima Thule plays music to reach the different worlds in the multiverse. And it was full of Superman at one point. So they have technically.
>>84167480
>mods deleting superman threads
So have they just given up all pretenses of this not being an MCU board?
Has there ever been a more powerful statement than
>YOU'LL BELIEVE A MAN CAN FLY
>>84188582
No, it's probably the constant shilling threads of BvSDoJUC
>>84177820
Man.
Byrne's lost his touch.
There's so many things wrong with that commission it's downright pitiful.
I guess that's what happens when all you do is sit on your computer and bitch about how everybody is ruining everything, and that comics are dying.
That and using photoshop to frankenstein old screencaps into Star Trek photonovels.
>>84187295
>>84187505
They're bringing the spot curl in JL action.
>>84189322
Weird, I don't think I've ever heard that one. Isn't it just some ad for the special effect shown in the movie?
>>84190305
It was the tagline for the first Donner Superman movie.
>>84190332
I realize that.
But why is it moving?
>>84190370
Do you mind if I ask how old you are?
I guess a large part of my appreciation of that statement comes from the context of the first movie. So much of it is tangled up in the way the world was shaping out to be at the time.
>>84190448
Are you saying you watched the movie when it came out 48 years ago?
>>84190481
I'm old but I'm not that old.
You're off by ten there champ.
>>84188582
To be fair or whatever, the other thread was 50/50 bait and honest well thought out posts about an elseworlds muslim Superman. It was really interesting at times but also a bit too /pol/. It could be considered off topic. Personally I'd rather it have stayed on principle, since we've had a bit too much censorship of muslim this or that recently in the west, and /co/ is a grownup board that can scoff away a little racism since this is fucking 4chan. The serious elseworlds posts were worth it. It was an acceptable tradeoff. Threads that might offend some muslim somewhere are being deleted. Threads about Superman are not.
But only Marvel is halal.
>>84185300
Cereal King wrote the Superman eating hotdogs with Jimmy
please read comics
