Complete radio silence on a project that was supposed to be released two years ago is a good thing, right?
>>84140192
soon, anon. soon we meme
>>84140280
Isn't Trizza only second best at memes?
Whoever posted the link to those strip poker stories thanks because you triggered my bi-yearly fanfic all-nighter. I literally never read fanfic outside of those two nights.
>tfw just want to eat troll pizza and drink troll soda with troll bro
>tfw some stupid furry teleports you to another world
>tfw /co/ doesn't even remember your name
>>84140477
>pizza cutter has a saw-like blade
>>84140192
Get well soon Joey
I accepted retconned Dave enjoys having alien cock up his ass. I accepted he loves Karkat's bulge so much, his only source of nutrition on the whole meteor trip was from the genetic material fed to him through daily blowjobs. I have accepted that Dave is a faggot, and that he is proud of it. He is free to wear a rainbow flag around his waist while Karkat frots with him. They are free to make out while reading Hunk Rump magazine. They are free to 69 each other in fulfillment of Karkat's symbol. I have accepted Dave will never be with Jade, since she does not have alien balls to suck on. Dave is the epitome of homosexuality, and that I can agree that is canon.
That doesn't mean Davekat isn't really dumb though.
>>84140381
thats cridea fanart anon
>>84140381
dont u ever compare trizza to that WHORE
REMOVE VIOLET BLOODS
My headcanon is that one day sollux was nearly raped by a group of olive bloods. He was saved when kanaya came and scared them away. this is how they met.
Thoughts?
writing rose is a fucking ballache. i dont have a thesaurus in my head like andrew
>>84140192
Joey had so much sex with trolls and humans alike that now she got sick!
>>84140899
I wanna put Jade on my lap and slap dat ass
I also wanna see her wear a suit
>>84140899
>that lack of ass
Some fresh land art from last night
which girl is a butt slut?
an anal fiend?
a rectal relisher?
Where the fuck is Karkat?
>>84141391
Terezi
>>84141391
all of them EXCEPT jade, who only accepts penetration in one hole.
dyonoi says our boy trashconstruct is actually a girl
>>84140546
They're trolls, you never know when you'll need to use the pizza cutter as a weapon.
>>84141560
this is good and wholesome
>>84141639
>Not specifically shipping Meulin with Porrim
so my kobold troll is a cerulean blood for sure
what should i do for a name?
>>84141376
awesome
>>84141710
kobold dlobok
>>84141710
the hell is a kobold
>>84141400
*8u-
Just kidding. He is hiding 8ehind a 8ush and crying like a weenie.
>>84140899
what on god's green earth happened to her nose
>>84141876
tumblr
>>84141942
>gays say that homosexuality is not a choice and hate when people say it is
>gays say homosexuality is now a choice
???
>>84141942
Consider this: why does everyone hold onto the fact davekat is still a thing even though they were in a meteor alone 3 years ago? Few DAYS was enough for Hussie to sink most ships without bloodshed
>>84141984
Because Davekat is Hussie's welfare check to keep him alive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ckr6KyZoS58
Ill be always pleased to how this song and rex duodecilum has far more views than A7.
>>84141942
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=009387
if it makes them feel any better, John STILL isn't a homosexual when he's 16 either
these people need to RTFC
>>84141560
Katnep is pure
It's also a good example of why pure =/= good.
>>84141983
The general belief seems to be that sexuality is fluid, but out of your direct control. You can't suddenly decide to be into dudes (although a few rare snowflakes maintain that opinion).
But over time you might discover that actually, men are kind of hot. So you voluntarily change your identity (and approach to potential relationships), as opposed to your sexuality - which you can't decide yourself because brains are weird.
>>84141772
Imagine Peridot was a lizard
man i cant believe how fucking wonderful davekat is. they make each other so happy. i love them so much
>>84141983
You missed the point by a mile.
Gay people used to think they were straight because they were raised that way, John could just as easily be one of those straight people.
>>84142395
Oh damn, that's actually kinda cute. I think I might actually ship this now.
>>84142403
Yes, but it'd be fucking stupid. John could be bi, sure, and Davekat could be not canon in Act 7.
We roll with certain assumptions because they're what we have to go on in the story.
I've finally moved on from Homestuck porn to Overwatch porn
>>84142443
John just said he isn't gay, he very much could still be attracted to guys as the comic explains things, or even funnier he could be attracted to Davepeta.
>>84142325
I would add that it's one of the potential based ships, in that it has potential to be good given different circumstances happening in the story. There's a lot of those in Homestuck given the number of unique personalities and characters that never got to talk to each otherlike the all 4 of the main fucking characters in one place.
did dave become gay because he thought it was cooler than being straight
>>84142781
I'm pretty sure he's just saying that the way John thinks of sexuality is archaic. Especially because he says "homosexual" versus gay and it tends to be older people who use "homosexual".
>>84142781
these aren't actual lines right
what msparp blog is this
>>84142861
>dave
>john
instead of
>whatever dave's pesterhandle was
>whatever john's pesterhandle was
>>84143010
>forgetting about dialoglogs
????
>>84142557
im happy that years and years later people still use this image I shat up in mspaint.
I dunno if I should have left the "mega nigga" feferi out based on the whole "higher hemospectrum = blacker" theory that ended up being totally 100% right.
>>84142861
http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=009387
LOL
>>84143031
Gamzee is literally the whitest of white in all of Homestuck
>>84143025
What? They never met in real life.
>>84143097
stop ruining my headcanon you faggot
I finally got a link to dyonoi's davekat discord server time to troll it: https://discord.gg/A4xu4
>>84143025
They never met in real life.
>>84143097
eridan is pretty fuckin white too
>>84143098
http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=009387
>>84143031
idk eri still feels white as hell
but fef/meenah/condesce are the blackest characters in homestuck. feferi being black helps redeem her too because black girls are cute
>>84143123
not your personal army
Joey "Not a homosexual" Claire will make Alternia great again
>>84140192
This is hussie. I dont think him being super vocal about it is going to change anything. Im fully expecting kojima tiers of weirdness either way.
>they still think Hiveswap will be out this year
>He will never be your drunk husbando
>>84142395
nice ooc as fuck pairing!
what's next? Karkat comforting a fucking manlet Vriska?
>>84143218
You have to time travel in real life to beat the game
>>84143285
you have to plug your mouse into the other USB port
>>84143218
But Kojima doesn't do radio silence, he gives you information and leaves out critical stuff
Like MGS2 had a playable demo on the Tanker, and the Phantom Pain was originally marketed as another game
Unless Cool and New Webcomic is secretly the epilogue, this fandom is cooked
>>84143269
They literally snuggled together in Vriskagram.
>>84143318
Hussie is the final boss. The game has a code system and getting a key item to beat the game requires you to beat hussie in real life. The code is different for every single copy of the game. Sometimes its a fight, some times its 1v1 basketball sometimes you have to woo him on a date
http://pastebin.com/2Bgzkfg3
hi hst. have a lewd pesterlog between dave and rose.
>>84143169
Joey ''Cum in my Face or Death to your Race'' Claire will make the biggest harem in paradox space
>>84143398
anybody have the basketball variant and want to trade?
I have the dating variant and there's no way I can beat this, I'm not fat enough to turn him on
>>84143416
you can't write dave
>>84143506
okay...
>>84143136
And Equius is troll Bruce Wayne, so he's white.
Plus the two lowest blood trolls are asian.
>>84143434
Anon dont you know, if you switch copies he knows and just executes you on the spot when you show up
![tumblr_mzm6y8bHkG1rwgmzqo6_500[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/NJRooYa.png "tumblr_mzm6y8bHkG1rwgmzqo6_500[1].png")
Can i have some rose/feferi/feferi's mom?
>police sirens
>police sirens
What did he mean by this?Really though, I've always assumed he's mimicking an ambulance but I'm wondering if there's more to it.
>>84143123
nah
>>84143582
>Aradia is jap
>Horn guy is a chav
>Sollux is chinaman
>Karkat is a jew (obviously)
>nepeta is a delicious, olive-skinned italiana madonna
>Kanaya is Russian
>Terezi is a native American from the Iroquois federation
>Vriska is a fat black woman who needs no man
>Equius is John Cena
>Gamzee is a white, Ohion hick who fucks his sister (terezi)
>Eridan is an imbred Spaniard
>Feferi is a pure, white, aryan goddess, the condense is like grimes where she's white but acts ghetto
>>84143711
>Vriska is a fat black woman who needs no man
what
vriska is a trailer trash blonde
>>84143733
But that's wrong.
>>84143637
Karkat, while volunteering to deliver dave's baby: "I've done it before"
Dave, while Bro is doing his rap: "I donno, he's never tried to eat my babies before."
What are the odds that Karkat also delivered Dave's baby?is karkat the father?
>>84143784
I mean dave's previous baby.
>>84143626
go on
>>84143123
welp the link died.
>>84143899
fuck off makin, everybody stopped caring about this stupid as shit as soon as you started forcing it
>>84143899
will voulem 1 premiere during the stream
>>84143899
I feel like we're killing the joke
>>84143972
he is
>>84143899
reddit mods please leave
>>84143899
R3D7D71R5 0U7 R3333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333
>>84143972
>we
Reminder bowmananon left because his pokemon edit went to their stream.
>>84143953
>>84143972
>>84143993
>They dont care about the release of cool and new webcomic's official volume one soundtrack
>literally because they have to click on a plebbit link
>>84144044
>reddit isn't welcome on 4chan
big fucking surprise??????
>>84143899
I'm suddenly not enjoying CANW as much as i did
>>84144044
>t. makin
>>84140192
Seeing how the originally developers literally stole kickstartered money and ran off to fund their own game under Activision is a pretty scummy thing to do.
![C6VpnHi[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/j6d0O5t.jpg "C6VpnHi[1].jpg")
>>84144069
fine i should have just posted this pic and be done with it
i forgot that we cant enjoy something if we know reddit enjoys it too
>>84144153
>i forgot that we cant enjoy something if we know reddit enjoys it too
I'm glad you understand. Please fuck off.
>>84143342
>snuggled
>Dave acting like a homo and sleeping on Karlat's lap
>snuggling
Dyonoi, please.
WHO IS PARADOX SPACE'S AWESOMEST EVIL DOER
Remember that time Karkat called Nepeta autistic?
>>84144228
IT'S LORD ENGLISH
>>84144241
Yes, actually. That wasn't a common thing to say back then, was it?
not even becoming an anime is enough for homestuck to get noticed by japan
those two comments were probably made by weeaboos
>>84143773
>>84143733
vriska in hivebent peppered her speech with french words and all her themes have had a country bent.
Vriska for all I care is white trailer trash from Louisiana
>>84144296
>undertale vid gets 10,000 views
hahahah toby fucking won
>>84144296
The creator of Earthbound actually hung out with Toby
>>84144241
Isn't Karkat autistic?
>>84144354
arent we all?
>>84144324
>>84144348
>>84144296
Tfw you manage to reduce Andrew Hussie's entire legacy to "that weird webcomic with the Megalovania Chick who isn't Sans"
Is cool and new web comic actually funny at all
>complete radio silence on a $2m project that was supposed to be released two years ago
>AND literally no official word on the mspaforums when multiple sources have been forced to come through other channels and say shit's been completely deleted
how fucking hard is it to just drop a line?
>>84144411
2.5 million dollar project m8
>>84144388
someone please post the copypasta
>>84144388
Toby looks like such a douche
I bet Bowman's vid about him was spot-on
cool and new webcomic was NEVER good
it was a meme webcomic and you all are so starved for updates youll take a literal le epic shbahj adventure with a fucking awfully written rose (oo she speaks "normal" so well written nevermind her non-existent snark) and jack (same).
Dude gays lmao
Dude jeff lmao
fuck you all
i fucking told you
>>84144431
Andrew? Andrew Hussie? Is that you?
Andrew, I can't and won't make this any simpler for you.
You failed at life. You failed. When one thinks of what man is capable of, pushing himself to the limits physically, mentally and emotionally to achieve heights of success never before mentioned, your name will not be whispered in the same, reverent fashion that others have.
Nobody will remember Andrew Hussie. You aren't even a header or a footer in the career of someone else. You are nobody. Nothing. Nada. Zilch.
In short, you are an enormous failure.
Andrew, being that you're about 35 years old and your brain has probably hard-wired itself to accept such failures by now and write off such criticism by being "flippant", really suggests that you've passed beyond the proverbial breaking-point. There's no turning back. This is your career, this is what defines you and this is what you'll defend to the end.
The abhorrent failure that is MS Paint Comics, Andrew Hussie, that is your legacy.
Maybe I'm over-reaching, however. Who knows? People CAN change. Maybe you'll read this, Andrew, and think long and hard about what a wasteful life you've led. Maybe you'll think, "wow. It's incredible just how abysmal and pathetic I really AM!" Maybe you'll lift some weights in the morning. Maybe you'll take a self-help class.
Maybe in a couple of years, Andrew, you'll have learned from this failure. I doubt it, though.
I genuinely doubt it.
Now excuse me, I have to work on Undertale 2. My accountant estimates over sixty million dollars in sales.
>>84144502
{s]every one; enter was unironically better than act 7
>>84144555
real high bar there family
>>84144502
Holy shit I predicted this
I predicted once CANWC became more popular and known by tumblr and plebbit, it would become hated by /hst/ and seen as an overrated meme comic
I bet in a few weeks any mention of it will get you the same response you get when you say you like undertale on /v/
screencap this
>>84144537
>>84144431
>>84144388
Fucking dying senpai
>>84143711
>Karkat
>Jewish
It's canon that Terezi is "Troll Jewgish". Not Karkat.
>>84144227
I'm sad people keep thinking I'm either tipsy or dyonoi :( let me be my own fame
>>84144502
>>84144597
The fuck is CANWC?
>>84144685
(cool and new webcomic)
>>84144685
http://mspfanventures.com/?s=14113&p=1
Dave speaks the truth
>>84144153
>i forgot that we cant enjoy something if we know reddit enjoys it too
I think its just most /hsg/ people seem to not care that much about that fanadventure so it comes off as annoying to keep posting about it.
There are one or two stupid people here though who think "reddit vs 4chan! internet rivalry!!!"
>>84144597
>shit comic gets popular for no reason
>hey guys you know it's really bad and low tier fanfic garbage right?
>OMFG WTF I ALWAGS KNEW U WOULDNT LIKE IT JUST BC IT WAS POPULAR XDDDD U DONT GET IT BTW HERES THE LINK FOR THE 15TH TIME THIS THREAD
shaking my head
>>84144731
I thought dirk was perfectly relateable
davekat sucks because both characters became neutered, hollow versions of themselves
>>84144731
he's right
WE WIN AGAIN KARKAT BROS
WHERE WE AT
WE WON THE DAVE BOWL
JADEFAGS BTFO
TEREZIFAGS BTFO
TAVROSFAGS BTFO
JOHNFAGS BTFO
CIS SCUM
B
T
F
O
>>84144731
Right, it can't possibly be a bad character development because its gaaaayyyyy!~
He'll never love you honey.
>Someone links to Reddit
>Redditors come out of their slums
>Thread goes to shit
Like poetry.
>>84144678
whatever, disillusioned one
>>84144779
explain?
dave very much had a character arc that concluded nicely
karkat got shoved under the bus yeah but I wouldn't say he wasn't himself?
convince someone to read a fan adventure with just one page
I'll post the obvious one
http://mspfanventures.com/?s=43&p=753
>>84143269
>Manlet Vriska
Someone post that image of ridiculously tall peter pan Tavros next to fairy dress Vriska
>>84144814
What was bad about Dave's character development? Is it unrealistic that he'd like guys? Karkat didn't have a SATISFYING character arc but they both developed.
>>84144752
>he doesnt understand satire
how did you even get through homestuck
anyway i guess we should keep discussion of CANWC to a minimum, but complaining about it also counts as discussion
lets just not talk about it unless theres an update
>>84144859
compare dave at the end of act 5 to how he became in A6A6I5
the guy actually regressed into a nervous wreck as a result of buttfucking with karkat for three years
>>84144920
I don't know if you recall the preretcon timeline but he was already a nervous wreck just from the prospect of meeting Dirk.
That was gonna happen, regardless of if he ended up dating Karkat or not.
>>84144749
i like it i just want reddit mods to stop fucking posting here and thinking its fine to post our shit on their website to start epic flamewars and just generally stop thinking we like them or are part of their community
>80 days since hs ended
>daily threads still a thing
You guys are a joke.
This is why nobody likes you all. You're all homophobic losers who can't just accept your ship isn't canon. It's pathetic really.
Whatever. I'm the one who at the end of the day, didn't waste 7 years of my life waiting for one hetero kiss. But I guess that may be the only kiss you'll ever get. And you won't even get it.
Lol.
I DON'T KNOW WHO THE FUCK YOU ARE BUT I KNOW THE TYPE OF PERSON YOU ARE
YOU'RE LIKE STEPHEN KING. WHEN I READ THE ENDING TO THE DARK TOWER, IT WAS LITERALLY
>LOL HE ENTERED THE TOWER SHOUTING PEOPLE'S NAMES
AND THEN HE HAS THE AUDACITY TO BERATE YOU FOR WANTING A SATISFYING CONCLUSION AND WANTING TO KNOW WHAT WAS SO IMPORTANT AND INTERESTING INSIDE. FUCKING BELITTLING YOU FOR HAVING CURIOSITY AND SPOUTING SOME BULLSHIT ABOUT HOW
>THE JOURNEY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE DESTINATION
WELL GUESS WHAT?!
YOU'RE FUCKING WRONG AND EVERYONE WHO THINKS LIKE THAT IS WRONG! THE POINT OF A JOURNEY IS TO GET TO A DESTINATION YOU WANTED BECAUSE THEN YOU WOULDN'T UNDERTAKE THE JOURNEY IN THE FIRST PLACE!
IF I FOLLOWED THAT LOGIC THEN MY GRANDFATHER WOULD'VE DIED MUCH EARLIER BECAUSE I WOULD'VE GONE FOR HIS INSULIN BUT INSTEAD OF GETTING TO THE PHARMACY, I WOULD'VE MET INTERESTING PEOPLE, AND HAD TEENAGE DRAMA PROBLEMS AND MAYBE GOT INTO A FIGHT, AND NEVER MADE IT TO MY DESTINATION, AND COME BACK A WISER MAN.
BUT GUESS WHAT?!
MY FUCKING GRANDFATHER WOULD'VE BEEN STILL DEAD BECAUSE I NEVER MADE IT TO MY FUCKING DESTINATION!
SO YES, I AM COMPARING THIS SHIT TO MY GRANDFATHER DYING BECAUSE IT'S METAPHORICALLY THE SAME THING. AND YOU'RE A PIECE OF SHIT IF YOU SUPPORT THIS.
The only thing. THE ONLY FUCKING THING that makes this all better is that I only joined the bandwagon a month ago. If I had invested more time in this, I would've felt bad. Now, NOW I can just go on with my life. But I feel so bad for other people, who ARE actually invested in this.
SON OF A MOTHERFUCKING FUCK I AM STILL FURIOUS!
>>84144936
Disgusting.
>>84144944
he can't speak confidently around ANY of his friends, it's not just Dirk
if Dave is supposed to seem more well-adjusted now than he was when he was teaching Jade about SBURB or when he decided to go with Rose into the veil, then Hussie did a pretty fucking awful job of it
>>84144951
but we're an on-topic joke with regular oc so its fine
>>84144980
holy shit
Please stop making threads. From this point on, I will delete any homestuck threads and give permabans
>>84145043
Isn't identifying yourself as a mod kind of a thing that gets you banned? bye
>>84144884
http://mspfanventures.com/?s=15124
uh
>>84144996
But he didn't have issues talking to Rose and other people like that. He's literally only awkward around people he hasn't seen for 3 years.
Why is that unrealistic? He seemed to get on with Roxy just fine when they had their lightning round, his main anxiety was Dirk and to a lesser extent John and Jade's reactions to his self discovery, he hasn't been nervous or weird around anyone else.
He literally explained in his conversation with Dirk how he's not sure how to broach talking to two of his friends, that's really it and pre-act seven he seemed fine hanging around with people.
>>84144986
God bless that anon.
>>84145111
I was tricked
>>84144884
>http://mspfanventures.com/?s=43&p=753
did waterworks ever finish? I lost interest around the time ID showed up in the dream
>>84144899
Yeah, Karkat becomes Dave's fucking bitch and trophy wife. What nice development.
>>84145173
Proof?
Don't worry.
I'll wait.
>>84145173
Ah yes, I remember when Karkat was exactly the same in the end as he was in the beginning of Homestuck.
He didn't get satisfying development, but dating Dave wasn't the issue there. The issue was Hussie just dropping character arcs all over, we all thought Karkat was gonna get his big moment as a leader and it was a fakeout, that's nothing to do with Dave.
>>84145244
I wonder if its possible Hussie legit forgot about most of the characters development that he had planned three years ago and just wrote it up new to try and end the comic without dragging it out another 5 months.
>>84145227
>>84145244
>it has nothing to do with dave
>gives a fucking speech about his fuckboy
>>84145291
Possibly but Davekat was pretty much an inevitability in that sense.
He'd said he had a clear view of what he wanted the end to look like and if Davekat was in that vision then we can either choose to speculate of move the fuck on.
>>84145227
He went from a somewhat competent fighter to a dumbass who immediately charges at people that shoot lazers and cries when a leprechaun midget bullys him.
>>84145291
i'm still wondering. he had that ending written up. what happened? was it always meant to be this shit?
>>84145320
His speech tangentially ended on Dave but I mean if you wanna focus on Dave there be my guest. lol
>>84144986
This will never not serve to unnerve me because I thought the ending to The Dark Tower was fucking great.
>>84145119
Dave used to be a badass who directly steered events, and he wasn't afraid to interfere when someone started doing something he wasn't comfortable with. He was both a hero and eventually an experienced mentor.
After the retcon he's so fucking passive it hurts. He just sits there, content to let others decide his fate. He can barely muster up some very weak banter around Karkat and Rose. Dave's best, most actualizing moments, the moments where he proves his worth, are all before the retcon. Everything afterwards is a soap opera.
>>84145335
I feel like Davekat happening in Vriskagram was very sudden and done in an attempt to try and milk some more money out of his excitable fujoshit tumblr fans.
I mean. If I was in his shoes I'd do the same thing so I can't blame him for following the money for a story he's not nearly as into as all his fans.
>>84145360
Karkat has cried in comic before? This is not new. He's also been a scaredy-kat (pun intended) before. He literally hid behind Kanaya when Jane was threatening them.
And he's also been an idiot that charges head first in to battle in Game Over, he literally got himself killed by Gamzee, this isn't new stuff.
>>84145335
Hussie probably decided to do davekat after he made that korrasami tweet
>>84145441
I like the idea of the theme of homestuck being nihilism. Its the closest thing to any kind of moral you can get from the comic.
No matter what you do or how good of a person you are, you have zero free will and everything has already been laid out for you. Deviating from this path will result in you and all your friends dying.
>>84145441
>pre-retcon he wasn't passive
Uhm? Literally the entire meteor journey he went on about how he's given up time-travel and when Jade tried to force him to fight he didn't want to. He also explained to Terezi how he doesn't see himself as a hero and this was before the meteor journey ever took place.
He was always heading into a self-loathing spiral, with or without a retcon. However in both timelines he pulled himself together when needed and did what had to be done.
>>84145472
>If I was in his shoes I'd do the same thing
Thats a very miserable way to live.
>>84145084
why is karkat holding jam
>>84145541
I'm not disagreeing with you on that point. Dave became very passive after spending some time on the meteor in both timelines. I only said "pre-retcon" because I consider his death in Game Over to be somewhat heroic, though of course it pales in comparison to his feats in Act 5.
>>84144731
I am bi and I liked Dirk a lot
Davekat was just really poorly handled
>>84144477
He seems like a really sincere dude
But he's also clearly been affected by being turned into an overnight sensation when he didn't want that at all due to being friends with Hussie and knowing how being a star means your life as you know it is over
>>84144899
Karkat developed depression and suicidal tendencies (which he talked about to Kanaya and not to Dave)
>>84145621
He helped make a frog, handled server stuff and then died and went on a suicide mission.
I wouldn't call those "big feats". Plus I thought the point of Homestuck was the character arcs and not the amazing feats they can pull off.
I'd still rank his act in Collide and his death in Game-Over as both highly astounding things for him character wise and awe wise.
>>84145569
Well okay if I had a story I liked a decent amount but didn't care that deeply for, I'd be willing to put some pandering crap in to make phat $tacks. If it was something I was super into (like toby is with undertale) I wouldn't change things around just to make money.
Hussie's (reasonable) tired of homestuck since its been nothing but a fucking drag on him since 2013
>>84145630
Davekat was poorly handled but I don't think people can dispute it's canon.
>>84144731
I personally dont like davekat because before vriskagram the only ships i liked were davejade and daverezi
I was super conflicted on which one i wanted to be canon but then davekat happenedits not a terrible ship tho
>>84145478
Evil Jane is a lot different from Clover. Evil Jane stabbed Karkat through the chest just to use him as an example for how her powers work. Clover just danced Karkat. Also yes Karkat has indeed cried before, but I don't think he's ever done it before because of someone he was fighting was messing with him.
Karkat basically acted like a child that was getting bullied, even though all Clover was doing was dancing around his attacks and dancing on top of him. Old Karkat would've been losing his shit and tearing his hair out in frustration.
Also Gamzee is a lot different from LE. LE is known as the "Angle of Death" in troll culture, he's not exactly someone you fuck around with. Most of the last parts of Homestuck were people setting up for the inevitable battle against him. Karkat should know how hard it's going to beat him.
As for the Gamzee situation, Karkat was blinded by rage that his former best friend would lay a hand on Terezi. Besides that, Karkat has handled a sober Gamzee before so he probably thought e had a good chance of doing something.
>>84145703
oh yeah he ONLY helped create a universe and ONLY led his coplayer through a dangerous tundra full of hellbeasts and ONLY accepted his mortality and died in combat and ONLY went on A SUICIDE MISSION
what a fucking piss-poor attempt and minimizing some seriously valiant behavior
>I'd still rank his act in Collide and his death in Game-Over as both highly astounding things for him character wise and awe wise.
him killing dirk in collide was completely meaningless, you just think it was significant because there was music swelling the background while it happened
>>84145711
Admitting youre a failure willing to milk retards and giving reason for isis exist doesnt make the situation better.
>>84144859
>but I wouldn't say he wasn't himself
fuck you
reread the last log he was in with meenah
tell me that's karkat
>>84145686
When was he depressed? And he wasn't suicidal, don't make shit up. He said he'd push someone the way out of an attack because he doesn't see himself as important. He's always had self loathing issues, RTFC.
>>84145783
It was a comic relief moment in the comic, like Nannasprite hitting John and Roxy with fridges, it literally has nothing to do with his person, he did charge angrily in to fight at the start. We are talking about a flash were Tavros dances on Lord English's head and Aradia strangles him.
Not everyone knew of the whole angel of death connotation, it seemed to mostly be Sollux, Aradia and Vriska who knew of this concept, other than that Lord English was barely discussed by the trolls.
If he's standing at the front of an army and he's not actually physically there, only as a dream apparition, then of course he's gonna charge head first into the fight, he literally had nothing to lose over doing it. He was leading the charge.
His attack on Gamzee was still pretty reckless, he even said he didn't intend to reconcile so I doubt he thought he could use moiralliegance to his advantage, they all referred to Gamzee as a nightmare clown and he's seen what Gamzee did with Terezi, charging in face first is all Karkat ever does.
>>84145803
Dude killing Dirk was really fucking important,
Leaving Bro's shadow and surpassing him, Dirk learning to let go and accept the fact that he can't control everything, his sword breaking the Unbreakable katana, etc.
I'm no fan of Dave post retcon either, but you'd have to be autistic to not notice the obvious symbolism and character development.
Dave and Dirk are done. All that's left is for Dirk to make up with Jake and for Dave to talk with the other Beta kids.
There are characters with way more major problems.
>>84145478
>Karkat has cried in comic before?
He cried when his friend died, dipshit. Not when a leprechaun did a lively jig on his head.
>it's a Hussie does something that makes the story shittier just to subvert expectations episode
>>84145973
this is a loooooooooong episode
>>84145803
Yeah, a musical cue occurred but him being faced with hurting someone he's come to care about for the sake of defeating an enemy is a pretty big thing for him. Especially in juxtaposition with the fact that Dirk wouldn't harm his friends even if it was for the greater good.
Every character in Homestuck has died, I don't think the whole mortality thing was something they'd have to worry about, besides he knew it was inevitable.
The universe frog was mostly Jade's thing, it wasn't meant to be Dave's big moment. He was tangential in it's creation, Jade had the big moment of finding the final frog and her dialogue's with Kanaya, Dave never spoke about frog stuff to anyone but Jade.
Jade could have literally been fine without Dave there, she literally had Bec Noir at her bec and call. Dave was there to maintain timeloops not to save her ass, Jade is fully capable of killing shit herself.
This is why you don't raid davekat tards, you just bring them over to the thread. God damn it.
>>84145932
the problem is that it was PURELY symbolic
both of them knew that Dirk had a backup life
it doesn't hold a candle to the ACTUAL sacrifices that Dave made before and the moments where he was required to demonstrate competence as not just a warrior, but as a leader
and I'd argue that it doesn't even really qualify as character development because they both already dealt with those specific issues in other contexts
>>84145985
aradia is cute even in bad art!
>>84146041
>they both already dealt with those specific issues in other contexts.
When did Dave have to kill one of his friends beforehand?
>>84145973
>it's a Hussie references something from the previous acts of Homestuck just to prove he hasn't forgotten about it even though it's pretty apparent that he probably did previously episode
>>84145808
>this character behaves differently at the end of his character arc than he did at the beginning
cry more lol
>>84146041
It's not a sacrifice though, you're missing the point.
The point is that Dave surpasses Dirk. He destroys the soul of Lord English, something Bro and Dirk could never do. He takes control and becomes the hero he always had in him.
And Dirk is a control freak. Leaving his fate in the hands of someone else is something that Dirk does not do, even when survival is assured. Letting Dave-Jesus take the wheel shows that Dirk is stepping down from his need to be the best constantly.
>>84146110
"killing his friend" wasn't the issue that you mentioned, you said "leaving bro's shadow"
But already did something like that with Rose. Twice, actually, Dave came to accept Rose's death for the greater good.
>>84145725
nobody is saying it isn't canon in this thread
>>84145808
Oh, how bad, Karkat cares about people and was monologuing about it after hanging out for three years with arguably the king of monologuers. This is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo terrible.
I had a dream where Homestuck updated with a 50 (or so) page long epilogue with dialoguelogs and stuff but while I forgot what happened in it (I think it was about the trapped four in the house juju fighting LE then becoming stranded in the furthest ring) I remember that it didn't answer any of our questions.
>>84146129
You mean falling back into the same issues he had at the beginning of his arc?
Karkat's back at square one: Hating the fact that he isn't a good leader and hating his alternate selves. True pottery.
>>84146155
This is a SHIT pairing.
>>84146174
You mean complaining about how lame his alt selves are, followed by being insecure about his failures to be a leader?
Mm, that character regression.
>>84146163
I never mentioned leaving his shadow that must have been someone else you were talking to.
Also he didn't accept Rose's death, they both went on the suicide mission together and at first he wanted to go on it alone but was forced not. I wouldn't call that "accepting" her death for the greater good.
>>84146209
How horrible.
>>84146150
Dave already surpassed Dirk. He fucking started out as already having surpassed Dirk just by being courageous and heroic and decent. Dave was already a hero in Act 5, and apparently he only regressed in Act 6 just so that we could have that stupid fucking scene.
I think part of the reason the ending felt so flat is because Dave, Dirk, John, and Roxy are the only ones we saw resolve their issues. With everyone else we saw the beginning and we saw their darkest hour, but then we never really saw them bounce back from it and become even better than they were at the start, which would have been satisfying.
>>84146219
I still fail to see how this had anything to do with Davekat.
>>84146209
>karkat's face
terezi....stop...trolls cant get UGGGGHH... pregnant....please stop!...it hurts...i have no more cum...i think inm goingg to pass..................out.
Why did Dirk job so hard in Collide anyway? When Jack walked up and shot him he just stood there. Why didn't he flash step or something? His sprite was shaking - was he froze up? Scared?
Also how the heck are threads still going all the time what the heck are you guys talking about
>>84146174
I wasn't talking about that. Do I have to pull out the doc where i changed all his dialogue to lowercase blue? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C4RnIXPrKW6s06dn0nXotslXF_Imeni_yGu5Vxs5zdw/edit?usp=sharing
>>84146062
>>84143626
Reminder that Aradia, Rose and Feferi already had hentai sex on different occarsions
>>84146265
What a nice piece of non-canon fan art.
>>84146279
Who the fuck is that supposed to be?
>>84146322
John would be my best guess.
>>84146322
help.......ME.....
>>84146292
Jack was jerking him off but you couldn't see it in sprite mode
>>84146174
also
>Karkat cares about people
yeah, "people"
even though he ended the log saying "I hope dave is okay" instead, you know, "I hope all the other people I give a shit about are okay". fuck them!
>>84146129
he was a shell of his former self
>>84146129
He sounds like a different character entirely from his previous self with no meaningful in between. Post-retcon Karkat actually regresses as a character, given his goals and aspirations setup in his introduction and built up through the story are dropped due to supposed reasons we never see.
Such a major character dropping their driving goals isn't something that can be brushed off without showing how such a process happens. In addition, whatever process happened would have to be pretty damn impactful for such an eventuality, given Karkat was setup in a way that the exact opposite reaction should happen. He wouldn't get disillusioned to leadership he'd only fight harder to get people to work together whilst dealing with his own hangups so as to avoid conflict between those two processes. We see this in his owning up to the his prior shortcomings, the acceptance his influence had lead to the Cancer on the Kid's universe and his shortcomings in dealing with the trolls.
This is exactly where his character was left after murderstuck, he was at his lowest point in his character arc given much of the events were on his head. To have that whole build up of character development suddenly dropped, due to supposed developments off-screen, is nonsensical, which is what causes the disparity in how he talks and acts after the retcon. He acts much less like his defining character traits and personality would indicate he should and we have to just be okay with that? When it contradicts where his character was prior to the retcon and the supposed developments causing such an event happen off-screen? That's bullshit right there.
>>84146337
It'll never happen KatNepanon.
>>84146297
I too remember when John used troll lingo, highlighted words with asterisks and said fuck every other word and loathed himself.
Just because you switched names and text colour doesn't mean it sounds anything like John.
>>84146373
Everyone regressed as a character after Act 5. Dave, Karkat, Rose, Jade. It's pretty clear that Act 5 was supposed to be the GREAT MOTHERFUCKER OF HOMESTUCK but Hussie decided to repeat everyone's character arc to stall for time.
>>84146360
isn't it some shit that caring about the guy you're dating is bad lmao
>>84146298
Aradia would NEVER.
>>84146404
>only way to tell it's karkat is via superficial quirks (i.e. alien terms, specific syntax, and profanity)
wow,
you sure showed me
>>84146402
Never fucking ever.
It made us all feel good inside
When the strong men wept
and the women cried
but what we really liked is the children fried
>>84143626
>>84146436
Im seeing a pattern here
>>84146360
>he was a shell of his former self
character development doesn't always mean overcoming your problems and becoming the best possible version of yourself.
sometimes character development means failing spectacularly and becoming a shell of your former self.
>>84146477
I had to read this three times because I kept seeing
but what we really liked is
the chicken fried
>>84146262
Karkat becoming a fucking trophy wife, a shitty half-assed Kanaya clone to Dave "look how progressive and how deep my character arc is compared to everyone else" Strider.
>>84146360
I think it's partly like how John said he hoped Dave was okay, cause he knew he was meeting Dirk and how big of a deal that was
>>84146439
yeah? that's what defines the way he speaks. if you ask someone to define how karkat speaks they would point out his syntax, quirk, profanity and alien terminology. its like how sollux and dave are pretty much the exact same
>>84146485
Just like Andrew
