give me a straight answer, /co/. yes or no: did they fix it?
There wasn't anything that needed to be fixed to begin with. Its just even better.
>>84122181
Yes.
>>84122181
If you wanted Clark doing journalism, yes, it's fixed.
Did you like the theatrical version? Then yes.
Did you dislike the theatrical version? Then no.
It's more of the same.
>>84122181
They fixed all that could have been fixed
7/10 movie now until Doomsday shows up and takes it back to a 4/10
>>84122181
Big no. Same problems, just amplified and made even more excruciatingly obvious.
>>84122181
Pacing and Editing was a lot better
But Snyder still doesn't understand the characters
And whats with him throwing in his fucking stupid imagery and American ego wank
>>84122207
First post best post. For once.
>>84122276
Fuck you! America is awesome
>>84122181
No.
They shored up a lot of the weaknesses of the film.
That being said, a lot of the problems I had had nothing to do with providing context, and were more about tone, direction, and Snyder's usual bag of tricks.
So I have a better opinion of the uncut version, but it's still not something I would pay to sit through again.
>>84122181
>>84122874
>would not pay to sit through again
>>84122276
They are American myths in the same vein of the Greek gods. Thatd be like asking why there was Greek imagery in Odyssey.
It's more of the same
It was GOAT. The best capemovie since TDK.
>People keep praising the "Clark does investigations" additions
>It's literally two scenes of him trying to interview some guy's wife and running into people who conveniently wax poetical about Batman
Disappointed, tbqh.
>>84122181
Depends on what you didn't like about the theatrical release.
I'm watching it and I'm 7 minutes on the movie... they didn't fix the beginning with that stupid scene with the guy that didn't leave the building while the whole world was crumbling down outside.
It's the same stupid movie with the same mistakes and incoherences. But with 30 extra minutes.
>>84122181
Fixing it would entail getting a different director who actually understand subtlety and isn't obsessed with excess.
>>84122933
Snyder pls
>>84122969
But Man of Steel was slightly better than The Dark Knight.
Yeah, it's leagues above the theatrical release.
>>84122181
I never saw the theatrical so don't know what was 'fixed' but this was a terrible fucking movie! Plot holes still everywhere. It started off ok, just with really REALLY bad pacing and then it just got silly, to the point that I burst out laughing when Superman was stabbed by the stupid Super Sayian
>>84123542
DANCE OFF BRO
>>84122207
>implying
>>84123380
> I'm 7 minutes on the movie
>it's the same stupid movie
Oh ok
>>84123542
meme
>>84123380
But the World Engine wasn't what caused the building to collapse; it was Zod. He was doing the right thing by staying in the building. It was just bad luck that Zod's fight ended up going through that particular building.
>>84123523
>>84123673
Are you fucking serious? The World Engine was consuming everything around it.There is no way to justify this stupid scene. No fucking way.
>>84123427
Kek how uncultured are you that you didn't realize this? They were created when America was at it's lowest point to give people hope.
>>84123673
>He was doing the right thing by staying in the building
Fucking how? Any person with any kind of sense would get the fuck out of downtown Metropolis the moment buildings started to go down, no matter what the cause.
>>84123632
Watching the same mistakes repeating themselves you can already get an idea of how the rest will be.
>>84122181
Pacing is better
Characters have slightly more justification for their actions and the way they are
Batman's hateboner for Superman is still incredibly contrived and hypocritical since he himself is still a mass murderer
MARTHA is still there
Doomsday is still there
Batman is still a prophet of our Lord somehow and Flash still warps into his dream
Luthor is still shit
There is still no unified vision and creative control behind the franchise as a whole
Snyder is still in charge of JL and they are still playing Darkseid way too soon
DCEU is still FUBAR
If you didn't like theatrical version, don't bother.
>>84123707
>>84123724
>>84123380
>not knowing that it's protocol to stay indoors during earthquakes
>>84123770
How do casuals like you not realize irrational paranoia is a staple of Batmans personality? Sorry no other movie adapted Batman's personality.
>>84122181
no
it's better though
6.5/10
YES
The movie has a lot more of CLARK now, they explain that Luthor was controlling A LOT of shit to make Supes and Bats go against each other(the branded dude dying in prison, for example)
I loved this edition, but then again, i didn't really hated the theatrical release
>>84123733
The movie is 3 hours long.
You watched 7 minutes of it.
>>84123710
>Give people hope
>Not make money
>>84123840
>making money
>during the great depression
>off 3 cent comics
Wew lad you need to brush up on your history
>>84123884
>implying the entertainment industry wasn't one of the few that thrived during the Depression because people needed fiction to cheer them up
>>84123910
Sure, but comics were created to inspire hope and happiness when the American people had none. Do you even Supergods?
>>84123818
Cynical Batman is ok
The problem is that he is screaming how Superman is bad for killing people by way of collateral damage and is somehow guilty of all those who died to world engine while having blood of dozens or even hundreds of people on his hands.
It could work with comic book Batman who doesn't kill, no matter the circumstances, who would risk his own life to save even the Joker's life. But not with this Goddamn Batman.
But of course it's way easier to just brand everyone who doesn't like >muh capekino a casual and ignore all criticism.
>>84122181
It's not bad but it's still not as good as the best DC movie... Batman: the Movie (1966)
>>84123951
batman isn't just killing people he's torturing and mutilating the corpses!
>>84123770
Batman doesn't have the power to kill all humans. The MARTHA scene was within Batman's character. Doomsday scenes were good, Flash scenes were good. Luthor was good. Unified vision and creative control? Snyder is great, Darkseid is great, DCEU is still producing good movies even if retards downvote them. There's no downside.
>>84123951
He only kills if you are autistic. The movie didnt intend for him to kill anyone so he doesnt kill. Your autism makes you think he kills cause you cant suspend your disbelief.
>>84124096
Is this a meme? Because I can't imagine even the most diehard fans praising the fucking Doomsday scenes.
>>84123808
That's what I meant by "the right thing." What the World Engine was doing was similar to an earthquake.
>>84124118
What was wrong with Doomsday? Muh CGI?
judge for yourself
its gonna be streamed on brettygood in a few minutes, so you can watch it there
>>84124156
It was really terrible-looking CGI, yes. That and he serves no purpose in the movie other than to have a big dumb monster for them to kill at the end, shoehorned in the Death of Superman storyline where it didn't belong, and the entire fight scene with him in general was such a clusterfuck of overblown visual effects that it was pretty much unwatchable.
>>84124156
He's a super sayan.
It's really shit and the battle is laughable. There are cool parts in the battle, pretty much all of them Wonder Woman stuff, but other than that it's shit.
>>84124096
>>84124117
>I am blind: thr post
Maybe no one actually died. Yeah, I suppose those were rubber bullets his batmobile guns fired at the guy with the minigun. And when he rammed that car and made it roll over several times before crashing into a truck, and then roped it into another car, I suppose those were all rubber car crashes. And when he shoots people from his plane or when he made a car full of bad guys crash into a fuel truck, I suppose those were rubber explosions. And he was only going to subdue Superman with that rubber kryptonite spear of his.
Your denial is just comical at this point. But please, do keep it up. I don't mind a good laugh.
>>84124117
did you actually watch the movie?
>>84124220
Don't forget the guy with the grenade. If I'm supposed to suspend my disbelief for Snyder's "realistic" vision, then I guess Superman didn't really kill anyone in his destruction against Zod in MoS.
>>84122181
Kino
>>84124198
What would be good CGI? How do you determine which is good and which is bad?
Generally team up movies, games, and comics have the heroes fight a big guy at the end. There's no problem with that. The fight scene was fine. You're just looking for excuses not to like the movie because you WANTED to hate it.
>>84124220
>>84124258
The point still stands the movie doesnt intend for him to kill. You are inferring he killed based off your real world constraints. The movie set in a fictional universe intended for those people to survive. You refuse to accept that. Ie autism.
>>84124302
Yeah this is memery.
>>84124302
>You're just looking for excuses not to like the movie because you WANTED to hate it.
So, you're saying everyone DID like it but are suffering from delusions that say otherwise? What the fuck is wrong with you?
It's much better than the original in every way. This new release makes it a solid 4/10.
>>84124331
This is also memery.
>>84124117
Nice b8 m8.
>>84124357
>>84124375
Go back to /tv/ and complain about Arya teleporting
I thought it was pure undistilled capekino up until this point when they Snyder lost me.
>>84123710
>>84123840
>>84123884
>>84123910
>>84123939
Actually, most of the comic book industry at that time was owned by the mob, so
Also, 3 cents wasn't so little money like it is today back then
>>84124331
And you refuse to accept any criticism of the movie. You're the autistic one.
All of that extra shit with Clark researching "The Bat of Gotham" and how much no one likes Batman because he's become a cold murderer akin to Rorschach or The Punisher, doesn't ever get resolved as we still have the same shitty third act with Batman and Superman instantly becoming allies. Clark never questions Batman, and neither does Bruce to Superman about how they perceive each other. They just fight and become friends, no character development needed!
And now I guess the world will forgive Batman in the next film, with Barry Allen not acknowledging him as the psycho murderer that he has been for the past few years.
Fuck this movie.
I just finished watching it with fresh eyes (I hadn't seen the original cut).
I rate it okay to pretty good, but would put a "damn" between "pretty" and "good" if Lex wasn't so awful and maybe Doomsday wasn't literally the cave troll from Fellowship.
I thought the score was the high point of the movie and I don't see why people were so pumped for Wonder Woman at the end. I think some people just react with Pavlovian excitement when electric guitars start playing out of nowhere.
Someone tell me what the McFarlane figure with the cubes is supposed to be. I see they're setting up for Darkseid, but I'm not that well read in deeper DC knowledge.
Overall, I'd watch it again, but maybe in like half a year at the soonest. That was a lot of movie.
its starting right now on brettygood if you want to watch it
>>84122208
How did they fix Lex or Martha?
Go on, I'm waiting.
>>84122181
This thread is an advertisement.
>>84124449
No thank you, I've got work tomorrow.
>>84124416
Saying that Batman killed when the movie didn't intend for him to kill is not autism. The movie did not intend for him to kill so he didnt kill regardless of what you saw or think. Just like if a movie about a magician had him create a sword out of thin air. In the real world this wouldnt be possible, but in the confines of that movie it did happen. If you can't accept this you have autism.
>>84124333
>>84124345
Where's the metric for what is and isn't good CGI? And I said that you and others were looking for excuses to dislike it, and thus disliked it not that you secretly liked it. There's nothing that would have pleased you. Worse than Sonic fans, honestly.
>>84124302
Good cgi looks like it's there
Bad cgi looks like it's who framed roger rabbit, with real people juxtaposed against cartoons, simple as that. But cgi is the least of Doomsday's problems.
He is only there because Snyder wanted Superjesus to die, and, sonce all he can do is frame pretty shots taken straight from comic book pages, just took Doomsday from Death of Superman, without bothering to tie in properly into all the other subplots in the movie. Unlike, say, Nolan's trilogy, Snyder simply failed to connect the storylines that he borrowed from TDKR and TDaRoS. It's just like Daredevil season 2 with 2 completely unrelated plotlines.
And btw I wanted to like the movie. I liked MoS, I thought it was, despite all it's flaws and shortcomings, a decent retelling of Superman's origin story and a good platform to build and expand upon. Too bad DC is hellbent on crashing this franchise with no survivors.
>>84123770
MARTHA would have been fine if they hadn't followed it with a five minute montage of why you dumbass viewers need to know that's important.
>>84124471
>Just like if a movie about a magician had him create a sword out of thin air.
Only God Forgives
>>84124220
>mfw this was actually an injoke with a friend of mine for a long time after we both read TDKR
>>84124486
good CGI should blend with the real world, should have textures that fit in with the backgrounds and live action stuff.
Part of the problem is not just the CGI but the whole designing, all that fucking lightning was just over produced garbage. And so much of the fight was just too fast to follow anything. So the problem wasn't just the CGI, though that was bad at times, but the whole design and idea
>>84124486
>>84124302
If it's good CGI, you won't be able to tell it's CGI.
>>84124598
Yeah, like the Jungle Book remake.
>>84124331
>>84124471
It was Snyder referencing the fact that despite having a no-kill code in movies, Batman still kills people "indirectly." He was borrowing from people who did things beforehand and got punished for it.
>>84124471
"Didn't intend for him to kill?" Shithead, do you think KG Beast just had black soot on him like in a Looney Tune when Bruce blew him up? Where those guys on Lex's truck who got crushed by the Batmobile just turned into flat pancakes and then popped back up with an accordion sound?
I bet $100 that you're from /tv/.
>>84124598
I think it's more that if it's good CGI, it won't bother you that it's CGI. CGI people don't notice is generally for static background stuff. I wasn't bothered by most of the CGI in BvS until one particular shot of Doomsday fighting Superman came off as really video gamey.
>>84124666
Kek again you are using examples of what you saw as reasons why he killed. If Snyder didn't intend for him to kill, he didn't kill. End of story. Your opinion doesn't matter in universe. Im sorry you are too autistic to realize this.
>>84124731
Oh boy
I pity you if you actually believe what you say
I know you are memeing, but still
>>84124829
I pity your autism and inability to realize what you think doesn't matter at all.
You are the kind of retard that ask who pumps Batmans tires or why doesnt Gotham just sentence the Joker to death.
>>84124666
You won't trick me, Satan. I've never killed and I never will. I carefully calculated every explosion, grapple, punch, Batmobile drift and gunshot to spare every life involved. Sure, they may not have every limb, or total control of their bodies, or a chance of ever living happily again, but I didn't kill them.
>>84124861
Not him, but what's your problem, man? Why is this such a personal triumph for you? What have you got to gain?
>>84124899
Attention, maybe.
>>84124595
>>84124598
So good CGI isn't possible. I get it now.
I hope they made it even smarter!
>>84124899
>why are you defending a movie I dont like! Stop that!
>>84123951
I don't know if you got this, but in the movie Batman decided to kill Superman fearing what he might become, not for what he is right now.
Batman is hating himself for being older than his father and not accomplishing anything. He didn't changed Gotham for the better, his crusade only brought pain and death and he wasn't even able to save the his employees.
Batman can't see the point anymore. In his mind right now he's not any better than the people he fight every night. So he sees Superman posing as a hero and fear what might happen when Superman realize the same shit.
Batman in the movie is pretty much suicide by way of Superman.
>>84124963
>tfw he left Joker's taunt on Robin's suit
>>84124958
No, why are you calling people autistic for posting criticisms of the movie? Just because they don't like it, doesn't make them autistic, what are you trying to gain?
>>84124731
>>84124861
Your argument boils down to author's intent. Snyder himself said that Batman commits "manslaughter" in the Batmobile. What now, then?
>>84125016
>>84124958
You're both autistic desu
>>84124198
Doomsday is Lex's son in the movie. Bizarro would be better to drive the point home, though.
Lex wanted to prove himself superior to Superman, who he thought of as an extension of his authoritative father. How can one supplement one's father? By becoming father themselves. Lex became the father of another kryptonian, one designed to oppose Superman in every way.
>>84125040
But how? You're not explaining why. What are you trying to gain? You still haven't answered that. You're just projecting at this point.
>>84124958
You are not defending it, you double nigger, you simply ignore all criticism and keep eating shit
>Batman killed those people, there's no logical way they survived
>lol no
This isn't defense, it's nonsense.
Snyder himself pretty much admitted Batman kills in this movie, you are not defending his vision even, only your own autistic interpretation of it, which you take for the absolute truth.
>So, I tried to do it by proxy. Shoot the car they’re in, the car blows up or the grenade would go off in the guy’s hand, or when he shoots the tank and the guy pretty much lights the tank [himself]. I perceive it as him not killing directly, but if the bad guy’s are associated with a thing that happens to blow up, he would say that that’s not really my problem.
>“A little more like manslaughter than murder, although I would say that in the Frank Miller comic book that I reference, he kills all the time. There’s a scene from the graphic novel where he busts through a wall, takes the guy’s machine gun… I took that little vignette from a scene in The Dark Knight Returns, and at the end of that, he shoots the guy right between the eyes with the machine gun. One shot. Of course, I went to the gas tank, and all of the guys I work with were like, ‘You’ve gotta shoot him in the head’ because they’re all comic book dorks, and I was like, ‘I’m not gonna be the guy that does that!’”
>>84125066
Nigga stop assuming every motherfucker that replies to you is the same fucking guy.
>>84125112
Okay then, I apologize, anon. Forgive me.
>>84125087
I wish he did do it like in TDKR where guys were shooting missiles at the batmobile and they bounced back, killing the bad guys. That would have been more acceptable, I think. Plus, rubber bullets.
>>84124861
Explain away the car rolls, the car explosions, Batman shooting at the people in both his car and his batwing, and not only pit maneuvering a vehicle that causes it to spin out,roll upside down, and explode, but then proceeds to hook it via grappling hook to the back of his car, drive a good 100-200 ft with it, showcasing the sparks against the pavement and additional flips, but to top it all off, to really show you that destruction porn, the car then explodes a SECOND TIME after it's all said and done. And you're going to try to sit there, in front of your computer, and tell me Batman didn't kill anyone? You are a fucking liar and scum. Please, do everyone a favor, and get off this board.
Yeah. It's easily the best cape movie since TDK now
Autists will continue to have "NOT MUH____" issues though.
>45 posters
That surprises me, feels like three or four.
I saw Batman vs Superman a few days ago and I thought it was pretty damn amazing. My only gripes are that
>it could have done with a lot less god/angel imagery
>Needed more Lex scenes
Also, I really don't like how doomsday was shoehorned in at the last minute. I LOVED the fight with doomsday and his creation, but it made the title of the movie very misleading. I came to watch batman vs superman, not the death of superman.
Overall, I give it a 8/10
>>84122223
This
It's still a choppy mess that raises more plot hole level questions than answers
It's still one of the most embarrassing cape films sitting right up there with Ang Lee's Hulk.
It's just now 3 hours with a few bits that show you what they told you or implied in film.
>>84125724
>It's still one of the most embarrassing cape films sitting right up there with Ang Lee's Hulk.
I feel a total disconnect with /co/, man. Ang Lee's Hulk is easily my top 5 capeshit.
What's so bad about that movie? It reminded me of Peter David's Hulk run.
>>84125751
Just the dogs. I like it desu.
The most embarrassing capeshit is a category that contains Catwoman, Elektra and Howard the Duck. Ang Lee Hulk isn't even close to that level of suck.
>>84125358
Again that doesnt have to be explained at all. If the director says they arent dead they aren't dead. End of story.
I'm watching it right now.
They didn't put any effort in that opening scene, did they?
>"There was a time above. A time before. There were perfect things. Diamond absolutes. But things fall. Things on Earth. And what falls... Is fallen."
Literally PLAN 9 FROM OUTER SPACE tier dialogue.
>>84125778
Yeah, the dogs... were odd. I actually like Ang Lee's Hulk over the MCU's Hulk movie.
Fuck, i'll admit i even cried watching Ang Lee's Hulk. I have a lot of daddy's issues.
>>84125783
Except the director does say they are dead.>>84125087
You fucked up, kid.
>>84125778
hey Howard the Duck gets some unintentional laughs. Ang Lee's Hulk is annoying naval gazing
>>84125724
Just curious, no hate senpai. What plot holes?
>>84122181
What is a half+ hour going to fix exactly?
This abomination couldn't even reach the billion mark.
Bat-man's solo film met the billion mark
This had the god damn trinity
How bad is your film when it's the most well know cape heroes meeting together on the silver screen for the fist time.
That should just sell
So no I don't this this "ultimate edition" resolves the piss mess of a movie it was.
>>84122207
>DCCU fanboys this fucking delusional
>>84125820piss jar
>>84122181
What was gal even doing in this movie? She was horrible!
>>84125674
What's the problem with the imagery? I thought it was nice.
>>84125829
>yfw Finding Dory passes BvS
>>84125807
Ang Lee's Hulk needed to balance its drama and action better. I think Ang wanted this super serious analysis of Bruce and his issues, but since it is a comic book movie he just threw in weird set pieces that didnt mesh well with his intentions.
MCU's Hulk movie was mediocre, but at least it felt consistent. its not a bad tv watch. I just remember being disappointed by the 2003 Hulk movie as a kid, so maybe i have more of a bias
>>84125886
There was a lot of action in Ang Lee's Hulk. Heck, probably even more action than in MCU's Hulk.
>>84125864
She was investigating Luthor's activities. In the end, she broke her vow to cease intervening as a superhero, and eventually became a co-founder for the Justice League.
>>84125820
Why does everyone think Superman is to blame for bombing the trial?
How does Lex know about lead?
Why does a hybrid of human and a human looking alien look like a cave troll?
How is a hybrid of human and kryptonian ancient kryptonian monstrosity?
>>84125983
also, WW's sword is shown to cut Doomsday
Why do they need the spear again?
>>84125864
>I can't pay attention to shit: the post
>>84122181
Not finished yet but liking the changes so far, but I think this alone saved it for me.
>>84125983
>Why does everyone think Superman is to blame for bombing the trial?
One of the points the movie make is that people will think whatever they want thanks to bias, even when the truth is right there in their face.
>How does Lex know about lead?
It is implied that he studied Superman for the longest time and he had access to kryptonian material.
>Why does a hybrid of human and a human looking alien look like a cave troll?
>How is a hybrid of human and kryptonian ancient kryptonian monstrosity?
It was done so people wouldn't mess with the birthing matrix or whatever. Basically an anti-piracy fail-safe device.
>>84126089
>dyed blondes
gross
>>84126185
Sorry about the trip. And I'm almost sure that's a wig.
>>84125960
>>84126071
>>84125864
She just wanted to steal a picture back.
>>84126071
How does that improve her terrible acting exactly?
>>84126052
>Why do they need the spear again?
He keeps regenerating and evolving from any other form of damage. Doomsday gets shot, he heals, evolves and sends out an energy pulse. Doomsday gets nuked, he heals, evolves and shoots out an energy pulse. Doomsday gets his hand chopped off, he heals, evolves and shoots out an energy pulse stronger than before. Kryptonite is the only thing that negated his powers since he was Kryptonian.
Of course, the fun thing to now consider is that he should heal and regenerate just like Superman, but now immune to Kryptonite.
>>84123910
So pretty much like that anon said?
>>84124295
>Ace chemicals
such a shame it only appeared for like 2 secs
>>84125862
how is that a plot hole?
![images[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/L3RKjSl.jpg "images[1].jpg")
>>84123770
based coment trigger dc fags how surprising
>>84122181
Does Superman still forget he;s got other powers and skills when fighting batman besides "BE REAL STRONG!" ?
Why can they never get this right?
>>84124464
with 90% of anons talking shit of the movie and like 3 retards saying it was good
>>84125040
i think is funy how in a website full of autism you are even more retarded than everyone, like did you forgot to take your med or something?
>>84124441
they werent really friends, they just needed to work together to defeat Doomsday. They didnt really have time to question each other or really hash anything out, but they know that the other is truly trying to be a good guy.
>>84126052
Doomsday could be hurt he just healed
>>84124096
>The MARTHA scene was within Batman's character.
>>84128913
>has never read a Batman comic
Can you be any more of a normie than this?
>>84125674
the imagery isn't meant to imply that Superman IS god or jesus or whatever, but that people view him as such, and where old gods failed (like lex said, they couldnt be all good and all powerful) superman tries his hardest to be both, and basically succeeds. Even when he sacrifices his life for the greater good, we know he will come back.
>>84125786
Man that dialogue is great, whats wrong with you you goddamn pleb. I bet you hate Taxi Driver or Goodfellas.
>>84129040
>is grasping at straws trying to defend MARTHA
Wow, just wow. Come on man, if it wasn't for Ghostbusters, that might be the stupidest moment in cinema this year.
>>84122218
So, just Clark being Clark.
sounds good.
>>84123770
Personally I don't mind the movie.
Keep in mind, throughout the film, Bruce was demonizing Superman, Though in the end, it shows that really, Superman is just a normal boy.
His parents' murder is literally the most important thing to ever happen to Bruce Wayne. It has completely defined him as a person and the lynchpin around which the rest of his life revolves. His parents are the most important people in the world to him.
Why is it such a stretch to imagine that being reminded of his mother would change his mind about something important?
>>84122208
>>84122871
Maybe.I don't know. Can you repeat the question?
>>84129111
Just admit that you don't read comics. Anyone who does knows how much Batman cares about his parents.
>>84123770
>Flash still warps into his dream
But he doesn't you stupid faggot. The scene is clearly framed so that Batman THINKS it was just part of the dream, and not an actual warning. He obviously passes out again after Barry leaves, and is jarred awake, possibly a side effect of having a lightspeed time portal collapse in his fucking face. You can see all the papers still fluttering around int he background.
>Criminals are like weeds, Alfred; pull one up, another grows in its place.
That perfectly explains Batman's change in attitude towards the whole no killing thing. Why do people complain about him killing?
>>84129330
Because instead of having a character arc where he comes to see the error of his ways and what he's become he hits a random brick wall and is suddenly and instantly completely changed.
>>84129381
because Batman shouldn't kill so we can complain about him not killing
>>84124877
lol, this. Some of the shit he does in the comics is fucking brutal. Do we expect him to make absolutely sure that none of his enemies ever succumb to injuries after the fact? I honestly have no problem with murderBats, especially considering the whole "no kill" rule only came along because of the CCA and the fact they didn't want to kill off his popular villains.
>>84129355
YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME NOW!
>>84129357
>Anyone who does knows how much Batman cares about his parents.
So you agree with the pic from >>84128913?
Any webbum requests?
>>84129484
>Crate bounces off him like a rubber prop
My Seids!
>>84129516
And just like that I can tell you've never worked in a warehouse
>>84129484
high def of slutty ww smirk when doomsday beats her up, of course.
>>84129484
How the uncut version of the piss jar went down.
>>84128058
Because most of those skills would be fucking lethal, and when they fight, Superman almost never actually wants to win. Also he was suffering from Kryptonite poisoning, and considering most of his other powers are harder to use and focus, he probably had no access to them.
>>84122181
For some reason I thought this was the porno parody of BVS.
>>84129484
bath lois
>>84129555
You uh, bounce a lot of crates off of people's faces in your warehouse, do ya?
>>84129604
No, it's the Apology Cut, just in time for Johns "apology reboot" of DC comics.
>>84129555
Actually tripsguy, I work in a General Mills warehouse.
And unless that crate is balsa filled with packing peanuts, it wouldn't sproing off a guy and a brick wall undamaged like that.
>>84129484
was that blood on the wall there in the theatrical cut?
>>84129726
Man, both irons and cane were great at their parts, but he was an absolutely accurate casting.
>>84129773
Passive-aggressive bitch mom Alfred was the worst, with all due respect to Sir Michael Caine.
>>84129816
Yeah, I fucking hated him, but then I hated most things about Nolanbats.
>>84129816
The burning the letter scene was great, so was the forest fire one.
My overall impression is good. I only remember bb and tdk though, no recollection of tdkr.
>>84129839
Like the Snyderverse, the Nolanverse gives zero fucks about the established personalities of the portrayed characters.
So when Superman inevitably returns, how are they going to explain that Clark Kent has returned from the dead?
>>84129866
Yeah, burning the "I'm really not that into you" letter and letting your employer wallow in bitch-tears in his attic while his family's empire collapses over 8 FUCKING YEARS, then throwing it in his face when he's finally tired of your shit...............perfect Alfred, bravo Nolan.
>>84129871
I'm betting WW and Aquaman movies destroy the entire enterprise before they are obligated to explain anything.
>>84124398
What the hell are those two men doing? I ain't watching this garbage.
>>84129901
He just thought he'd get more sad if he knew she gave up on him. He tried to protect him.
>>84129975
His sole motivation was to get him to stop being Batman.
When he made it clear after 8 years that he WAS going to resume patrolling THE NIGHT, Alfred quit and threw the letter's existence in his face as a final "fuck you then".
Nolanverse is all about crippling bitch-dependency, quitting, and BLOWING IT ALL UP!
>>84129868
My problem was less that, and more just the general aura of shame that surrounded capeshit pre-MCU. Movies were always trying to find a way to be superheroes, but while trying to downplay all the silly/unbelievable concepts that you have to endure. It just seems shameful, especially Nolan's hamfisted execution of it. Also the quips in Nolanbats movies are some of the most cringeworthy shit. They're so tonedeaf. At least in the MCU the overall tone is humorous, so it doesn't seem so out of place.
>>84125983
None of those are plot holes.
The bomb investigators stated they weren't ruling Superman out as a suspect while the investigation was underway. Investigators are suppose to examine all possible angles and motives. They never once accused him though. The media then does what the media does and played it up, cue "I'm not saying it was aliens...but it was aliens" journalism and some retards bought into it because of confirmation bias. All this is true to life.
If Luthor knows Superman has x-ray vision then he would know lead blocks it. Lead is used for shielding in areas that generate a lot of high energy EMR.
How did Lex know about the x-ray vision? Either through studying him through media footage or being flat out told by the Kryptonian ship whose vast knowledge he now had access to.
The hybrid thing doesn't even need to be explained. It's unknown alien genetics being mixed with humans. You can literally make up any rules you want. Doomsday could have turned into a unicorn and it wouldn't have been a plot hole. Dumb sure; but logically consistent with the in-universe rules.
For your last question, the ship wasn't specifically referring to human/krypton hybrids; it was talking about abominations in general, implying Kryptonians did some gene splicing back in the day which resulted in aberrations like Doomsday.
>>84130097
>Dumb sure; but logically consistent with the in-universe rules.
Snyderverse in a nutshell
You could have saved yourself some typing.
>>84130085
>My problem was less that, and more just the general aura of shame that surrounded capeshit pre-MCU
I have to assume that Batman Begins was the first cape movie you saw as a child.
The X-Men films, the Fantastic Four films, Spider-Man movies, even the older WB films all embraced the weird and unbelievable aspects of their mythos.
It's only Nolan and Snyder that have made them awkward and self-conscious.
>>84123005
It gives him more context for wanting to get Batman off the street.
>>84129562
>>84129452
Frankly, I like the idea that Batman totally kills people all the time, but his particular psychosis has him rationalize and self-deceive every caused death into "no, I didn't kill them, I calculated it perfectly to keep them alive" so he can stay relatively sane.
Yes, Batman, I'm sure that guy you elbow dropped in the back of the head is just fine.
>>84129381
I've been through all these arguments, and people who are convinced that the movie is terrible either answer them with "but that's still stupid/wrong/bad" or "you had to explain them so that means that they don't count".
I just shouldn't even open these threads anymore.
Eh, it's okay.
The only outright travesties are Olsen and Luthor.
But it's not Catwoman or Fan4stic tier,
Probably more Spiderman 3 tier.
