Were doing it right this time!!
no!----WAIT
I know i said the same thing last seasonand also the season before that
BUT WERE DOING IT RIGHT THIS TIME
h-hello?
is anyone still there?
BRING. BACK. BLACK CANARY.
MOM'S GONNA
>>84028092
Never again
just the idea of Felicity is still a regular
makes me doubt it will
>>84028092
>is anyone still there?
No.
I tuned out after the shitty "Oliver's kid gets kidnapped, completely justifying his fears about exposing his existence, but Felicity, who Oliver stood by after she was crippled, and who just a few episodes ago was keeping her dad's involvement in one of their cases a secret, spends the entire episode chewing Oliver out for keeping secrets and then breaks off their wedding engagement." episode and I haven't watched it since.
>>84028092
>Oliver has a vicious fight scene
>OLIBUR!!1! WHY DID YOU DO THAT? NEVER DO THAT AGAIN, I ANT BELIEVE YOU DIDNT ASK ME HOUW I FELT ABOUT IT? I'M SO DONE WITH YOU
The first season is the only season they did it right.
>>84028104
They already brought back Sara
>>84028455
Seriously. This show has to make some very DRASTIC changes in its roster and cast dynamics to win me back.
So, what's it's competition? Network TV only.
D A M A G E C O N T R O L
>>84028631
I bet that ham beast pretends to be Felicity during sex.
Fuck this show has gotten so bad.
>>84028914
>during sex.
implying anyone would touch that ,':^)
So another TDKR mob fight where people with guns don't use them for some reason?
>>84028968
It's another arrow fight where he beats people up with his bow while flip jumping like a moron all around the place.
>>84028092
Have they changed his costume? Looks more black than green now.
>>84028104
>they make Felicity into the new black canary
>>84028993
And a stupid amount of the fight is spent on their knees.
>>84028092
>season five will be fucking mean
But Felicity will come out totally unscathed. The "fucking mean"est thing they could do to their fans would be to destroy Felicity in some way, be it physically, emotionally, or mentally.
>>84028573
Season 2 was GOAT
>>84028994
It's naturally darker, they apply a filter to it in post-production to make it brighter green.
I'll give it a chance. I like the theme they're going with and Vigilante sounds like their best lead villain since Slade.
I dropped Arrow after the midseason finale of season 3. Apparently it's somehow gotten even worse since then?
>>84028104
Let Sara be the Black Canary again, pls.
>>84028486
The worst part is that she broke off the engagement not because of the secret. But because he decided not to reveal himself to his kid after consulting with Samantha. Felicity was angry that was not allowed to be a part of that decision. The decision of two parents regarding how to raise their child. They totally should have let her in on it!
>>84029514
She's better off in Legends
Arrow was a sinking ship and unlike the Gambit she managed to get off this one
>>84029541
And then the mom said dont blame ollie this is my fault i forced him into not telling you.
>>84029140
>Vigilante
Like, the cowboy motorcyclist?
>>84029012
And there's so much fucking spinning.
Why does everyone have to twirl around so fucking much.
>>84029499
- Felicity didn't stop crying
- Felicity became the main character
- Season 4 was about Magic, but Ollie never learned how to use magic to beat Damian Dahrk. No one even talked much about magic, despite it being this season's main theme.
- Merlyn became Head of the League of Assassins and did fuck all with it
- Felicity walked out on Oliver because he lied about having a son years before he ever met Felicity, which he didn't know about and couldn't tell anyone about because the baby mama forced him to keep quiet.
- Dahrk wanted to nuke the earth but wanted Star City to die because...why?
- All the nukes got launched, but Felicity was able to hack them away. What do you mean they could still land and cause untold destruction? Felicity's involved so everything turned out great.
- Laurel died not because it was building up to anything, but because the writers swore they would kill someone off this season and had no idea who it would be.
- Laurel's last words were to push Olicity...the fuck.
>>84028092
well desu, last season's premiere of arrow is slightly better than flash's, but then we know what happened.
>>84029709
>hear all the talk about a lighter tone along with the name and costume change
>think it can't be possibly worse than season 3
>mfw it was
I honestly have no idea how it can get any worse at this point, but I'm certain they will try their best
>>84029738
The problem was that they spent a lot of their time, energy, and the first half of both Flash and Arrow to get Legends of Tomorrow off the ground. Hopefully, with no new series coming up, the quality for Arrow and Flash will go back up.
>>84029738
given the horrendous season they had in S4, trying their best for S5 won't say much
>>84029709
To be fair, if the nukes are disarmed, the worst they could do is flatten someone on re-entry
Friendly reminder that Felicity has the largest confirmed kill count in the entire Arrowverse.
>>84029709
Laurel died because the writers didn't know what to do with her.
>>84029709
Tom come on
Okay, I'll give you that the LoT promotion did indeed drag down Flash S2 and Arrow S4, but that still doesn't excuse all the other stupid shit that happened in both seasons like Jay/Hunter/Zoom being a complete letdown and Arrow rapidly and unapologetically becoming Felicity and Friends.
>>84028092
the really amusing thing is all of you will be back like the battered housewives you are
>>84029673
No, the lawyer. Adrian Chase.
So did they realize it was fucking stupid to pander to such an idiotic demographic (Felicity fans) or do they not care? But to be honest, theres no saving ARROW because the show has the same problems since DAY ONE and it only grew worse over time with additional problems. Sad thing is Flash is going down the same rabbit hole
>>84029709
Oliver did figure out he had to have hope so Darhk couldn't get a power-up from his despair, tho. That sort of counts.
>>84030284
I don't understand /co/'s sudden hateboner for The Flash. Yeah, 2x18 had a stupid ending, but people did a complete 180 after it and started hating the show from day 1.
>>84030257
Don't rub that salt.I have rest of the season starting with episode 14 pirated, but unwilling to continue watching after Felicity's dad was shown and Felicity's mom was confirmed to be a recurring character in next season. I just can't and these episodes are raughing at me. Stop fucking laughing, phone is ringing and it is as loud as it is.
>>84029626
And then Felicity blames Oliver anyways and all but says he should have been willing to endanger his son rather than keep a secret from her.
... holy shit guys, Oliver Queen is in an abusive relationship.
>>84030257
Speak for yourself, CWcuck.
I dropped Arrow after S3 and will never pick it up again.
>>84030337
Because Season 2 basically boils down to a rehash of Season 1, and they managed to piss away both Zoom and Jay at the same time. The series isnt complete shit as of now, but many fear it will go the way of ARROW soon. Also as cool as Flashpoint is, it doesnt really make sense now given Barry's character arc in the show
>>84030311
>Magic
>Despair
Hmm
>>84030257
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t6wIZYKQt4
What the hell happened?
>>84030337
People turned on the flash once Zoom's identity was revealed because it made a lot of scenes nonsensical in hindsight and the pacing took a massive dip afterwards
>>84029709
You forgot Havenrock, but in your defense there's not much there to remember anymore.
>>84030390
>CWcuck
>implying I didn't drop it midway through S3
>implying I've ever seen LoT
>implying I'm not dropping Flash unless the S3 premiere is decent
lmao, I just saved that webm from some random thread weeks ago
>>84028092
>is anyone still there?
sorry Amell, I left you for superior IWaifu and Batshota.
>>84030430
If only wizard was good
>>84030481
God that was just insulting. She fucking nukes a town and NO ONE gives her crap for it nor is it given any sort of weight or importance? Fuck that. If it were Oliver, it would be a season long ordeal
>>84030404
Zoom wasn't as well-written as Reverse-Flash, but I liked him, and I don't know how it "pissed away" Jay when they did what people always wanted with him.
And it does make sense. The entire season has been about Barry's struggle against Thawne's claim he's his own greatest enemy and will never truly be happy because of what he is. The season finale is about Barry going through a very subtle nervous breakdown that culminates with him effectively committing suicide by self and rewriting the timeline so he'll never become the Flash and his parents won't be killed because of it.
>>84030442
>it made a lot of scenes nonsensical in hindsight
Such as?
I agree on the pacing, to an extent.
>>84029776
That and they promised a death by showing the hrave, then realized they didn’t know who they were going to kill.
So they killed Laurel.
Going back to gritty street-level is a step in the right direction. They didn't do well with lighter tone and world-threatening scenarios.
Also if this is the last season they'd want to go out with a bang.
>>84030549
>Did what people always wanted with him
Fucking what? We got maybe 5 mins of the real Jay and they wasted the opportunity to do the mentor/team up thing all for a nonsensical twist.
>>84030257
That was a director fuck-up not so much a writer mistake.
You can make stanoffs like that really good.
>>84030549
the Jay butthurt throughout the season was hilarious
The new characters.
ADRIAN CHASE / VIGILANTE (Josh Segarra)
>Star City's new District Attorney who joins forces with Mayor Oliver Queen to take on organized crime, aspiring to clean up the streets by using the legal system. Behind his irrepressibly charming facade, Chase is a man on a mission, out to avenge a tragic and violent loss from his own years prior, and this drives him into increasingly extreme methods. As he spirals further into violence, Chase proves himself to be a chilling adversary, who might just as easily shake your hand as your best friend or break your neck as your worst enemy — and you never know which one is coming. Either way, he’s more than capable of having a good time as he does it.
TOBIAS CHURCH (Chad L. Coleman)
>A ruthless crime lord who sets out to fill the sizable void left by Damien Darhk and H.I.V.E., uniting Star City's criminal enterprises under his command. Church is an apex predator who cuts his way through the shadows by taking down the biggest threat first, and quickly sets his sights on newly-appointed Mayor Oliver Queen.
>>84030525
This. People shit on iZombie all the time but it's never been bad, and Gotham is endlessly entertaining
JACK WHEELER / WILD DOG (Rick Gonzalez)
>An ex-Marine turned vigilante operating in Star City, whose reckless and cocksure nature prompts the Green Arrow to take him under his wing. Wheeler proves himself to be an unpredictable, but reliable ally.
>>84030626
Who the fuck is Tobias Church?
EVELYN SHARP / ARTEMIS (Madison McLaughlin)
>One year after masquerading as the Black Canary to pursue vengeance against Damien Darhk for the death of her parents, Evelyn resurfaces determined to forging her own identity as Artemis, and proves herself to possess great resolve and resourcefulness despite Oliver's continuous efforts to discourage her from a life of vigilantism.
>>84029768
The american LGM-30 Minuteman ICBM accelerates up to 6,7 km/s and weighs 1150 kg. Even without detonating, one of these missiles packs 26,8 GigaJoules of kinetic energy. That's equivalent to a detonation 6.5 tons of TNT. Here's what 1 ton of TNT looks like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAYVMXYYAp4
It's not a lot but it would do a hell of a lot more than just flatten someone.
The only recurring character left to be cast is Derek Zaba, who'll be featured in the flashback storyline in Russia.
DEREK ZABA (TBA)
>A man of fierce intelligence whose wit and humor belie a person wrestling with deep-seated demons. Derek looks to his Jewish faith to ground himself, having been raised in a devout family, and while usually kind and well-meaning, he can also come off as a physical threat.
Amell also said someone that hasn't been on the show since season 2 is appearing, which probably means Anatoly is coming back.
>>84030618
>>84030638
>>84030655
Oh great, even more vigilantes. Also fuck you ARROW for dragging Artemis in this shit
>>84030597
It's still happening.
>>84030694
Doenst excuse a shit season.
>>84030688
>Complaining about vigilantes
>Arrow
That's like complaining about politicians in House of Lies or swords on Game of Thrones.
>>84030709
For you.
>>84030714
Yeah but doesnt it deter from Oliver? I remember people complaining that Team Arrow was too big
>>84030688
>MUH YOUNG JUSTICE
It was a good show, but it's been years. Let it go.
>>84030742
Diggle and Thea are gone for a while, they're the replacements.
Plus the season theme seems to be "vigilantes, vigilantes everywhere... AND IT'S ALL OLIVER'S FAULT".
>>84030626
The guy dies to escape from becoming a zombie during the apocalypse and manages to end up in a worse place
>>84029709
Stopped matching mid-season. THIS is what really happened? what the actual fuck???!!
>>84029709
this was literally the last scene.
>>84030654
season 4 was about magic, so this season they go the zombie route (alluded by zombie girder in flash). with arrows being ineffective to kill the immortal or powerful enough to explode the head, felicity needs to find a way to hack the zombies' brain
Yeah fuck this show.
Unless Fefe fucks off for a while I refuse to watch it and I can get my Green Arrow fix via the Rebirth comic.
>>84029709
In hindsight all the talk about letting Star City die was never explained when he was going to nuke the earth anyway. They were just using it as a thin thread to set up for the reveal for project genesis.
>>84028092
Is the Arrow in quotations because they know it's really not his show anymore?
>>84030655
For some reason, and I know it's just me but I liked the idea of a younger girl taking Laurel's place as Canary.
I mean the mask looked shit on her but I like when that happens in a story. Some new kid coming in to fill the shoes of someone else. Nice to see she's returning. Hope she gets a better mask this year.
>>84030784
Isn't based Roy coming back too?
Wild Dog and Artemis will round out the team then.
>>84031494
No, he'll just appear in one episode or two as a guest star. Same deal from season 4.
Reminder that Felicity is just a poor man's Chloe.
When the corporate suitfaggots say they're going to be breaking a milestone in anything it means the end result will be tepid shit that a kid would think is lame. Every. Fucking.
Time.
>>84030714
Game of Thrones could use more swords, tbqh.
>>84030675
>flashback past the island
jesus christ why are they still doing it
>>84030714
They killed of black canary because there was too much capes
>>84031705
More like way too little Felicity.
>>84030527
It's better than Arrow at this point
>>84031720
Yeah actually
>Dinah will get a bigger arc
Locking you sister in a basement isn't ab arc
>Dinah will get a nemesis
Yeah the arrow writers
>>84031676
This should be the end of the flashbacks.
>>84031740
Shit baking in the sun is better than arrow
>>84031603
Do not even dare to compare her with felicity
>>84030638
>we want the punisher crowd
>>84030675
Oy vey
>>84030638
FUCKING WILD DOG???????
No Arrow, don't do this to me. I don't want to watch you any more, please.
Please.
PAY YOUR RESPECTS
>>84031810
Word
>>84031883
Dont fall for it anon, it will only disappoint you
>>84031883
I said the same thing with ras al ghul
>>84031948
>>84031950
I know they're going to butcher him. I'm really only a superficial fan, since he's from my hometown and there's no way they'll have him be from anywhere but Star City. But still. He finally got his big break. How can I not watch a hometown kid who made good?
I get the feeling Sportsmaster will appear and only disappoint us further.
>Felicity Jock joke
>>84031995
I don't think so.
>>84032011
I didn't think Ras would prop up olicity but he did
Someone post the arrow rating trajectory
>>84032011
I only assumed given Artemis
arrow is dead, move on. Glad I've dropped it during season 3.
>>84032085
literally
>>84028104
>Wanting Whack Canary back.
Sara's already there.
>>84031676
>>84031801
>Arrow season 6
>flashbacks to Arrow season 1
>>84032635
Makes me happy and sad everything I see this
>>84031366
Remember how Felicity and family were cracking jokes literally 1 minute after this? That's the world of Arrow.
>>84031258
fixed
>>84028477
the meanest fight ever just means Felicity will unload her full arsenal of "muh ollie" and "no lies" for 60minutes with no commercial interuption while Olliver sits there and takes it until the end when he stands up and says "Felicity you are absolutely right it's all my fault, thank you for pointing it out" and which point he reaches down his pants, grabs his balls, rips them off and gives them to Felicity for safekeeping.
>>84033535
Arrow has officially become the new Smallville, as in 6 more shit seasons before a decent final season
>>84029541
what's hilarious about that if it had been Felicity's kid with the situations reversed. "he's not your child, you're not his parent, I am, you have no say in anything about him" would have been said and fems would have hailed it as the greatest parent speech ever.
So what were the overal ratings for flash, Arrow, and legends
Actually some Olicity said the total was 3.15 and was super estatic about it for some reason. Flash was higher right?
>>84033535
>>84028951
They had full body casts of Amell made by the FX department and every writer took home a anatomically correct sex doll of Amell so they can have sex with it while dressed up as Felicity, while beating it screaming "STOP LYING TO ME"
>>84032635
It's like a set of dominoes falling down.
>>84030341
>Only just realising this
>>84032635
wow, I'm amazed how accurately those best fit lines represent my thoughts on the seasons
>>84032635
>yfw it's actually an arrow trajectory
>>84033535
>>84033640
To be fair, Lana was never quite this bad. Though the way she constantly cucked Clark was hilarious.
>>84034280
>Lana was never quite this bad
Oh yes she was. During the "She's a Witch with powers" phase she was even worse than Felicity.
>>84029776
>didn't know what to do with a 70 yr old character
>but can make up any sisturation for their OC
>>84034303
She was basically an antagonist during that arc though, which made it slightly more bearable.
Remember when Laurle was insufferable, and we laughed at her crippling alcoholism?
>>84028092
It's kind of crazy that the fights in the earlier seasons are vastly superior to what came about in S3/4
>>84034280
The difference is that Smallville was a show about a young Clark in high school, college, etc. so it's annoying but understandable that his crush is your average obnoxious teenage whore.
Arrow is a show actually about Oliver Queen as an adult and a fully established superhero, yet his gf acts like your typical whiny 14 y/o obese tumblr girl.
>>84034503
Man looking back at Laurel at least she had a reason to be pissed.
>Boyfriend cheats on her with her own sister.
>Sister 'dies' due to the fact she was on the boat with said boyfriend.
>Said sister comes back from the grave and resumes relationship with said boyfriend.
>Meanwhile Tommy ;_; is dead and was one of the few good things in Laurel's life at that point.
>>84034865
Actress just wasn't right for the role I think. She grew into it, but some scenes (like her drunken stumble) were very bad.
>>84028631
Separated at birth?
>>84030661
Everything about nukes on the show was awful.
>The codes to a magic device that can hack nukes that are already in the air (ICBMs don't have wireless transmitters connected to their guidance systems Hollywood) gets stolen and no one calls the president or the dpt of defense.
>ICBM guidance systems apparently run off of a list of cities instead of longitude and latitude coordinates, burn timers, and trajectory.
>The nuke that hit Havenrock was coming from the west, real ICBM's launched from Russia would go over the North Pole not over the Pacific because the distance going North is shorter.
>WWIII should still have happened anyway because NORAD would have tracked the Russian nuclear launch and a counter launch would have happened.
>>84029140
>Vigilante
>villain
Pick one
Even Adrian Chase wasn't a bad guy. He was just crazy.
>>84035066
Now see I actually thought that she was one of the stronger actors on the show, okay granted it's the CW and the bar is low but I thought that she did a good job. That scene in the hallway in Ollie is one of my favorites in the series because the actors showed that they had range.
>>84031676
>>84031801
>>84033056
Season 4's flashbacks could have taken place in under a week, tops.
>Vicious Fight
>Arrow
Beating people up with bow is sure is vicious
>>84028092
so glad I never picked this show up
>>84031258
WHY IS IT GREEN ARROW INSTEAD OF BATMAN
FUCK
THIS IS JUST BATMAN WITH A BOW
GOD DAMMIT
>>84035505
If it was a Batman show, Batman would use his belt as a weapon instead of the stuff in his belt
>>84035364
He'll be the main antagonist of season 5.
>>84030439
the good staff left for flash and they can't figure out a decent villain for oliver so they just keep upping the stakes from "guy who really fucking hates oliver" to "ninja death cult who wants to destroy star city because reasons" and "magic guy wants to destroy star city because reasons"
>>84035505
Ignoring the obvious "Green Arrow was always a ripoff" thing, this show didnt even try to differentiate since day fucking one. This show was never about Green Arrow
>>84030654
Probably Tobias Whale, Arrow has slightly altered a few names, Michael Holt to Curtis Holt and Dinah Laurel Lance to Laurel Lance
>>84035573
I thought that was Not-Brick.
>>84028092
The problem isn't even VIOLENCE the problem is Felicity and Oliver acting out of character from his comic counter part.
>>84028486
>>84028517
It's ironic and amazing how they managed to to capture the essence of Normal Female Bullshit with Felicity. She represents it perfectly.
>>84028631
That explains it perfectly. Women writers can't NOT self-insert.
>>84035816
yeah, as much as i like the S1 and S2 acceptable, it feels more like angsty batman show. maybe they plan sort of a progression thing from angsty to sjw, but waiting for it to happen in 5 seasons would be too long.
and even now black canary's gone, what makes "arrow" the green arrow anymore?
>>84035932
Right? We lose 2 Black Canary's, no Wildcat, he barely uses trick arrows anymore or even regular arrows for that matter, Merlyn isnt competitive against Oliver but rather an annoying dick whos knee deep in League bullshit, and they completely fucked up Count Vertigo not once but twice. I dont understand how anyone whos a fan of the Green Arrow character can like this show. Is it because its one of the few cape shows available?
>>84031258
For some reason I didn't think this was the last episode. Like... my brain didn't process this anti-climatic thing as the season finale or something.
>>84031648
Yeah it's called "marketing" and "PR" and they seem to think we can't see straight through it.
>>84035930
>Women writers can't NOT self-insert.
That one episode is Bellotto and Dunbar's only writing credit, not just for Arrow, but in their career, if you discount the short movie Bellotto did.10 years ago. Felicity is intentionally super competent and infallible because she's designed to be the self-insert for fangirls, same reason protagonists in Young Adult books are nearly all as insufferable as Felicity.
I think the show will indeed give us some damn good action next season people forget how dark and bloody this show was.
>>84030626
Isn't that Tyrese from the walking dead?
>>84036271
Fuck off ARROW writer, the show is dead
The fox xmen aproach
>>84028092
besides the obvious amell's bullshit,
>Amell also revealed that "Arrow" season five will also feature the return of a mystery character -- “someone that we haven’t seen in two full seasons."
who'd you think it will be? shado would be a good guess, but god knows no way tumblr will let that happen
>>84036473
Harley Quinn?
>>84036514
What would the fucking point be? And besides, WB wont let them
>>84035573
But why?
>>84035910
Nope, it's supposed to be an OC.
>>84035911
The idea seems to be that Chase starts out a a dutiful D.A. who helps Ollie face Tyreese. They become bros4life and stuff, but then Chase begins dipping his feet in the vigilante pool, and keeps getting more and more violent to the point where he just become a crazy serial killer targeting criminals and whoever gets caught in the way. Like Punisher to the extreme.
>>84036473
It's Anatoly. He was last seen in the S2 finale, and Ollie is going to Russia now.
>>84036839
No one cares about the flashbacks anymore. Hell it was stupid taking him off the island in the first place
>>84036271
That was back in season 1 where:
Merlyn was a competent villain
Felicity was likable and had limits to her hacking abilities.
Diggle was a bro.
Oliver actually used interrogation, deduction, and tracking to find people.
They actually filmed in other places besides the outskirts of Vancouver.
The action scenes were better shot and directed.
>>84036877
I kinda' care because the Russia storyline has potential. Plus it's the last year of flashbacksuntil the season 6 time skip.
>>84036839
he's not embargoed? but yeah, anatoly's possibly dead in bvs
>>84036910
He can probably make sparse appearances since he is integral to the show.
Waller wasn't embargoed either, Guggeneheim killed her as a "fuck you" to WB.
>>84036910
You know the funny thing is I could see the tank explosion as an excuse to give him the KGBeast mask and hand. Would be a nice addition for the SS sequel. But thats never going to happen
>>84036934
That sounds childish
>>84036999
It is, but then again so is WB.
Gustin and Flash crew handled it better despite Gustin getting the most direct knockdown.
>>84036473
I WISH it was Deathstroke or Tommy coming back as the Spectre or something but that would be too good.
>>84037050
as much i love grant, it's understandable why he didn't get the role. even if he's indeed the right guy for the film character-wise, i doubt he would have enough time to beef up
>>84037109
It makes sense for the Flash to be on the skinnier side, though.
>>84036473
Huntress
>>84036896
>until the season 6 time skip
please no
>>84028631
>A hambeast and a nu-male
IT KEEPS HAPPENING. THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT.
>>84036473
The audience.
>>84037276
You know it's coming.
>my name is oliver queen, for five years i survived on a hellish island, then i came home and straight up murdered fuckers for a year. now i have one purpose, to keep my bitch of a wife happy while i try to bang my secretary.
>my name is oliver queen, after two years stranded on an island, then off the island, then back on the island, then off the island, then back to the island so i could be rescued, then a few years in my city, i have just one purpose. to divorce this whore i married and get my fucking company back after she and that bastard palmer stole it.
>my name is oliver queen, after years spent being shot, stabbed and tortured, i learnt the true meaning of pain and that's seeing your bitch of an ex-wife sell your family's legacy to some fucking chinese company for pennies just to spite you. but now i have one purpose in life, and that's to ask if you need fries with that.
>>84037577
>My name is Oliver Queen, and Felicity said to pick up a carton of milk and pudding mix on the way home from protecting my city, and to not use arrows because they're expensive. I've lost control of my life.
>>84035816
they were even afraid to use the names Dinah or Lary Lance.
>>84037109
I agree with >>84037136
Flash is meant to be lean, not buff. He doesn't need the raw-physicality that people like Batman, Aquaman, Superman, or Wonder Women do.
>>84036282
And Dennis "Cutty" Wise from The Wire.
>>84037577
>>84037611
>My Name is Oliver Queen for five years I wa--
>OLLIVER! OLIBUR!
>Not now sweety I'm doing the intro.
>How come the intro is all about you Oliver? You never talk about ME in the intro and I can only assume it's because you really don't care about me at all!
>Okay let me start over... My name is Oliver Queen and --
>YOU DID IT AGAIN YOU DIDNT MENTION MMMEEE!!!! YOU ONLY CARE ABOUT YOURSELF!
>>84028573
>>84029090
mid way through season 2
do I just end it after season 2?
>>84033699
If you mean actual, viewers ratings? Give me a moment, I actually have been compiling this info for a while.
>>84030442
>>84030560
jay was always the bad guy, his fight moves, him wearing dark clothing, camera shot locations, music, etc.
quite funny how in hindsight it was spoiled early on, but not enough for anyone to notice
>>84037577
>>84037611
>>84042176
I honestly can't tell if I'm laughing or crying right now. Or if this is a joke, or an honest glimpse into the future.
>>84030481
>>84030534
>Havenrock
>>Rubicon was part of Damien Darhk's plan to ensure the nuclear devastation of the whole planet, leaving H.I.V.E. as the only force capable of rebuilding it and "starting life anew", with their chosen people safely surviving the nuclear annihilation in Tevat Noah. Using his dark powers, the terrorist leader ripped the subdermal implant from under Lyla's skin and brought it back to his organization.[1] H.I.V.E.'s scientists managed to reprogram Rubicon, so that instead of deactivating nuclear weapons, it would launch them on targets all across the world, including the metropolis of Monument Point and its suburb, Havenrock.[2]
Havenrock hit by a nuclear missile
>> Lyla contacted Team Arrow to help stop Darhk's plan. Felicity Smoak and her father, Noah Kuttler, were instrumental in shutting down Rubicon, however, due to the program's ability to recognize the error and send launch codes one by one, a single nuclear missile was launched from Russia that destroyed the town of Havenrock, with tens of thousands casualties, that ended up fueling Damien Darhk's dark magic abilities, making him impervious to Green Arrow's attacks, unless heavily weakened by the Light of the Soul.[2]
>> Although Felicity Smoak and Noah Kuttler managed to develop the program to counteract Rubicon, the laptop to which it was uploaded was stolen by Damien Darhk during his visit to Smoak's place. Subsequently, Darhk entrusted Cooper Seldon with restoring control over Rubicon and launching the nuclear missiles once again, threatening to painfully kill him with dark magic in case Seldon does not comply. Felicity convinced Seldon to sacrifice himself and save the world, taking control of Rubicon once again and making sure none of the launched missiles finds its target.
Wow. Arrow got more retarded than I could have imagined.
>>84043029
Havenrock? More like nothing crater!
>>84043029
Really how fucking stupid is it when your villains entire thing is dark magic and yet his he uses it for a nuke endgame? Hell the magic thing is kind of pointless to begin with, its just a plot device so Damian can succeed with this retarded plan
>>84043180
>how fucking stupid is it when your villains entire thing is dark magic and yet his he uses it for a nuke endgame?
it wouldn't happen if magic is somehow hackable
>>84042902
There's some interesting info going on about these but I can't really remember any right now so if you have any questions I can answer them. There's a small gap where there's no shows at all but it's more than just one week, it just demonstrates a gap between any episodes of any shows. No Lucifer because who gave a fuck about Lucifer.
It's funny to see how this season has done compared to Season 1.
>>84028993
Hey now. The flipping wasn't as bad as it used to be when Roy was fighting. Fucking autist flipped more than he threw punches.
>>84031740
Wizard makes me angrier.
Because the first 12 or so episodes are really great and then they just do nothing else for the next like 38.
>>84030618
>>84030626
>>84030638
>>84030655
WHERE THE FUCK IS ONOMATOPOEIA?
>>84035530
underrated post
>>84035530
BOY IMMA BOUT TO WHUP YO ASS!
>>84031460
I actually generally liked that episode.
>>84031836
>Blonde computer hacker who bonds the Superhero community together and dates Green Arrow
The only difference is Chloe is Chloe is good and also unlike Felicity she isan OC
>>84043412
>guggie still not using the opportunity to sabotage kevin smith's creation
weird
Alright America its time to play........
>MAKE! ARROW! WORSE!
Haha Thats right! The game where you shout out the idea to make this OC wankfest even more terrible. Todays category is........"Characters writers pretend they've read about"
Manu Bennett is never coming back.
>>84043550
They should introduce Chloe as Felcitiy's romantic rival.
>>84043550
Oliver Queen
>>84043482
THEY HAVE KEVIN SMITH NOW
HE CAN DO IT HIMSELF
>>84043550
Ted Kord
>>84043630
After Reaper Uncle Guggie and Kevin Smith won't be working together. Both have said no when asked.
Kevin Smith wants to do an Onomatopoeia episode of Flash though so he can still ruin it himself.
>>84043658
DING DING DING! Thats what we're looking for! Now for $500, how would you make Ted Kord terrible on ARROW?
>>84043709
I'd make him Felicity's long lost twin brother.
>>84043709
he's the new member of Palmer Tech board of director, and instantly rehire fellicity as the CEO. ollie gets jealous of their budding office relationship
>>84043709
Make him serious instead of funny.
>>84037497
>>84043709
He joins the love dodecagon between Felicity, Oliver, Ray, and Barry.
>>84043666
AS LONG AS HE PULLS A SILVER ST. CLOUD ON FELICITY, I DON'T CARE WHAT SHOW HE APPEARS ON FIRST, SATAN.
>>84037276
>Huntress
They have been trying to line it up for a long time now. Maybe she got better at acting.
Also they can't time skip. It would disrupt the crossovers.
Next category! "People walking into the Arrow Cave and why"
>>84043804
Not if those crossovers take place in alternate timelines.
>>84036271
>how dark and bloody this show was
HAHAHAHA
Even at its best Arrow was about as dark and bloody as Miami Vice, but with none of the charm.
>>84028092
>>84043180
Darhk was a retarded villain in general.
He sucked on every level possible.
>>84028092
>most vicious, violent
>season's villain is a black guy
Why is Marc so racist?
I know people didn't like her, but she's better than Felicity right? Let's bring her back.
>>84030257
>Directed by Christopher Nolan
>In an interview with Zap2it, Arrow executive producers Marc Guggenheim and Andrew Kreisberg have confirmed that we shouldn't hold our breath for the world in the new CW show to ever become as fantastical as that of Smallville. However, this doesn't necessarily mean that fans won't still see some of their favourite comic book characters on the small screen. "What it does is it creates an opportunity for us to reinvent some characters and present them in a non-powers, grounded way," Kreisberg explains.
So, does that mean we'll be seeing powerless versions of Superman and Green Lantern? Thankfully not! "I think as far as those big names like Clark Kent and Bruce Wayne and Hal Jordan and Diana Prince, we're going to shy away from that, especially because we really want to establish Oliver Queen as our hero and our lead," Guggenheim says.
>>84044334
Let's no insult Nolan. His fight choreography might suck, but this shit is not even as good as John Wayne movies fight choreography.
>>84044454
>"We're not looking to do Justice League as our TV show. We're doing a show called 'Arrow,' which is about Oliver Queen. Anyone who comes into his world will be a supporting character. Those characters aren't supporting characters. Those are leads. So we'll be focusing more on supporting cast in the DC universe. People who come in and complement Oliver, not overtake him."
>Guggenheim adds that the reasoning behind this comes from a very specific place. The realistic world and tone set by Christopher Nolan in The Dark Knight Trilogy. "Chris Nolan took Ra's al Ghul, somebody who in the comic books literally is immortal and has supernatural elements to his character, and presented him in a more grounded, realistic manner -- took his immortality and gave it a sort of real world twist in 'Batman Begins'," he says. "Same with Bane, who has superpowers in the comic books, is presented as just a man [in 'The Dark Knight Rises']." Do you guys think this is the right direction for the series? Sound off with your thoughts below.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/dc_tv/arrow/arrow-producers-say-no-to-superpowers-and-an-appearance-from-the-a66224
Are they actually going to make him a new suit that's properly green, instead of just using a filter for a whole damn season?
>>84028477
This show could really use a superior and more likable hacker girl instead of Felicity.Fuck me, it hurts so much ;_;
>>84044561
I really need to get caught up on Person of Interest. I always kind of saw it as a better superhero show than the actual superhero shows.
>>84044561
Fred was the best Huntress
>>84037497
>>84044468
he wants to make "arrow" realistic, go ahead. but being real to the green arrow character doesn't include being low budget batman. i'm not sure guggie or kreisberg even understands what makes olllie and bruce different from each other
>>84043180
I remember during the first 5 episodes of S4 Dahrk had a magic box and I thought it was somehow new gods related. Then he dropped the "I'll destroy the world" line and it still seemed possible. What a wasted oportunity.
>>84043709
I want him to be the CEO of a new bussiness of Starling City and using his money to corrupt Oliver's cabinet and take down Palmer Tech.
Also I want him in a relationship with Felicity and her mom, cucking Lance and Oliver at the same time because who gives a shit about side characters.
Also include League of Assassins as people like Malcolm and that lesbian right? Throw some random plot shit like hes going to shrink the planet or replace it with an earth from another universe. Felicity saves the day in the guise of the Black Canary.
Finally have a fight between Oliver and Ted Kord in a modified ATOM suit and fighting like Ant Man because people liked that movie. They kick each other in the shins until their finger tips start to bleed. With Ted Kord defeated, Oliver vows to be the mayor that saves the city and goes Man of Steel on his neck.
In the flashbacks in Russia, throw in something about Ted Kord and how he got Felicity and her mom pregnant.
>>84044936
>being real to the green arrow character doesn't include being low budget batman
since fucking when?
Green Arrow started out as a low budget Batman
>>84045202
my bad. i meant "low budget batman" as nolan's batman translated to tv show, not vigilantes with less expensive gadgets.
>>84045202
Just ignore them. Anyone who whines Green Batman doesn't actually read comics.
It's a running gag at this point.
>>84045300
No. Green Arrow was created as low budget Batman and he was stuck in that rut for a very, very long time.
Even now he still gets it. Most of the new 52 was Batman-lite.
Everyone loves Outsider War but the entire purpose was reintroducing Batman's fucking team as a Green Arrow concept.
Emiko was just Damian-lite.
I'm glad Percy is putting him back on track. Back to where he was when writers started to actually make him his own thing.
>>84045417
The only good Arrow Episode since Ra vs Ollie was the Star City Beyond episode on Legends of Tomorrow
>>84044188
I liked seeing her titties so sure
>>84033535
hahahahahha
>>84043253
Hey, Lucifer was pretty good. A bit too police procedural, but still, it's nice to see an unrepentant hedonist as a main character.
>>84046594
Lucifer was pretty much the same thing as iZombie except with an actually charismatic lead, but it doesn't have any waifus for /co/ to jerk off to, so it's ignored.
>>84046904
Well, it was on Fox, people might just have been waiting for it to be killed off as soon as possible.
