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>6 Days

PRAISE SNYDER
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>>83992769
Okay.
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>>83992769
have you considered killing yourself?
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>>83992769
HAIL SNYDRA!
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>>83992769
>BD + DVD

They still do that? That's cool.
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>>83993809
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huyVs3QiK1c
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>>83993809
>Marvel
>Kino
That's insulting.
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>>83992769
What is the deal?
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Can the wait be over already? Fuck.
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>>83992769
The actress they picked for ww is ugly as sin. Jesus.
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>>83994910
youre a faggot
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>>83994331
i am 100% going to need a gif/webm of that close up "hes doin it"
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>>83995012
Jesus she looks like a shar pei. Somebody needs to put that bitch down.
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I thought it was July?
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>>83995245
Physical in July
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Yeah, you have fun with your Asura's Wrath "Real Ending" DLC.
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>>83995264
So can I rent the digital or...
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>>83995333
>Implying Asura's Wrath real ending DLC wasn't fucking amazing

Nice try
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>>83995012
Are the bracers to disguise the fact that she has the forearms of a prison camp inmate?

Cuz it ain't working.
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>>83995264
Good to know you're getting your anal exam, anon. Hope you don't get colon cancer.
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>>83995012
>mfw the padded top has fake nipple dents in it
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Should be good.
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>>83992769
Are people seriously anticipating the longer DVD release of this shit pile of a film. Like the extra scenes are gonna somehow fix it all. Snyder ain't Ridley scott. He doesn't have gems hidden by poor editing.
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>>83995903
Everyone already knows what's in it, seems to clarify a lot of stuff.
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>>83992769
Well, I can't wait to see DC fan boys try to do damage control once this movie is still just as bad. Normally when a movie is bad people attack it for a while and move on, but DC found a way to make people hate it all over again. Sure there will be some improvements, but the major problems with the film will still be there.

In the end, this is a movie for people who dislike Superman as a character along with his whole supporting cast.
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>>83996106
A director's cut might redeem the movie, it worked for Kingdom of Heaven.
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>>83996121
Might, but I have major doubts that extra footage can fix Lex and Jimmy, or the whole "mom same name" thing.
The best that can be hoped for is slightly better fights and the reason Batman attacks Superman becomes a little more believable.
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why does batman look so fat
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>>83996240
Because, he's THE FATMAN!
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>>83996240
Functional strength.
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>>83996274
>DCfriends think this is a masterful film already
After their hug box thread where they actually said that negative posts were not allowed, I lost a lot of respect for any supporters of this movie.
Most of the people who support BvS are mega fanboys who just want Marvel to fail and have locked themselves into a echo chamber. If they really cared about DC, they would call it out for sucking and make the company see the truth.
Then again, that would imply DC cares for its fans.
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>>83996411
I thought it was just /tv/ ironically shitposting
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>>83995012
>mfw those cups are empty
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*JUSTS*
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>>83996411
I'm more of a Snyder fan than a DC films fan. If he gets fired there's no reason to watch this shit anymore.
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>>83996526
same here, the second Snyder's imprint is no longer felt, I won't give a shit
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>>83996526
>>83996591
Honestly, it would be for the best if Snyder was fired.
He is bad for DC and DC is bad for him since he clearly doesn't like Superman.
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>>83996695
>he clearly doesn't like Superman.

I'll never understand why people think this.
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>>83996935
autism, pure and simple.
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>>83996983
That and "Snyder wants to rape Batman" prove that /co/ are willfully ignorant.
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>>83996935
Because he doesn't understand what makes Superman a good character.
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>>83992769
I dunno. I am excited for more footage to be shown but the movie was very meh and gave me a headache (like getting sick on a rollercoaster kinda thing but did drive 3 hours to see it).

I just dunno, marvel movies are better the first time watching but dc is better after multiple viewings (can't stand to see avengers or guardians again but can sit and make fun of man of steel).
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>>83997131
Which is what? Ask 10 different people and get 10 different answers.
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>>83997131
>Inherent will to do good
>Willing to risk self to save others
>Son of two world and two fathers.

No, he gets him 100%.

What people don't get is that Snyder is developing the character in a different way, but his core is 100% the same.

For fuck's sake the entire character arc of Superman in BvS is how he remains true to himself, his ideals and his goal to save others, despite the cynicism that is surrounding him in his world.

No Snyder does get Superman. What I've learned though is that it's others who don't.
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Posted this before, but I've already seen the ultimate edition and liked it. It's largely the same movie, but the extra material smooths it out and adds a lot of context to a lot of scenes. BvS was my #3 capeshit movie behind Deadpool and Civil War, but the UE boosted it up to #1 for me.

I initially didn't like BvS all that much since I felt like it was choppy and poorly edited, but the UE really helped. If you liked the movie, you'll like the UE. If you're like me and wasn't too into the movie for technical reasons like the editing, give it a shot. I think you'll likely enjoy it. If you don't like the movie for fundamental reasons - you don't like Snyder, you don't like the direction of the characters, etc. - you might as well skip it since it's largely the same movie and the film just isn't for you. Movies, like any form of art, is subjective and different people like different things.

Anyway, for people living in select cities they're screening it in theatres for free before the digital release. I'm going to one of the ones in L.A. to see it again but on the IMAX screen. I haven't checked recently, but there are reports that lots of the shows are full now so best check if you're interested.

https://www.wbtickets.com/main/blp/QnZTVWx0aW1hdGVFZGl0aW9u
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>>83997305
>BvS is how he remains true to himself, his ideals and his goal to save others, despite the cynicism that is surrounding him in his world

It also makes him imperfect though, and points out the weaknesses in the whole idea of a "Superman" That's what Deborah Snyder was talking about when she said "People don't like having their heroes deconstructed."
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>>83994910
No she's not, neckbear. She's pretty. Keep in mind I said pretty & not "zomg! what a total babe!"
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I'm confused as to how you obtain a digital copy. Is it like pay-per-view or something? Can I download it on my Xbox?
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>>83997432
Making him imperfect is the point though.

That an imperfect person can still cling to the ideals of what Superman stands for and achieve them means way more to me than a guy who has always been perfect, and faced no adversity at all still remains perfect.

Just look at it this way.

Clark in MoS had a fundamental will to do good, and chose to pursue that will, while searching for his origins. His earth father did not push him into it, only telling him that while he is capable of great things, it's up to him how he will make the difference.

vs

The traditional origin of Superman in which the Kents literally sew together the Superman suit and put this burden on Clark that he needs to use his powers to help others.

The second makes for more easily digestible heroics.

The former makes for something with far more meaning. At least to me.
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>>83997494
She is meh at best. Shit ugly is my personal opinion.
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>>83997539
I'm not disagreeing with you, just saying how it looked to some people that the perfection of Superman had been betrayed somehow.
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.....So is anybody going to the screenings on Monday?
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>>83997539
>than a guy who has always been perfect, and faced no adversity at all still remains perfect.
See, it's when you guys say shit like that. THAT is what pisses off people. Not to mention it has absolutely fuck all to do with his shitty attitude in these movies.
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>>83997530
You buy a digital copy of the movie from one of the sites that provides digital streaming services (Amazon, etc.) and it gets added to your library. You can the. watch it whenever you want. X-Box has a service that sells the movie I think. Some sites also allow digital colies to be downloaded.
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>>83997611
Yeah, I got tickets.

I don't know if Ill be able to go, but got em just in case.
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>>83997637
does anyone have a torrent for it? I haven't bothered looking too hard yet
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>>83997406
>https://www.wbtickets.com/main/blp/QnZTVWx0aW1hdGVFZGl0aW9u

>None in New Zealand.

Sometimes living at the end of the world really sucks!
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>>83997621
What's shitty about his attitude? He's a guy with a big burden on his shoulders.
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>>83997687
He isn't smiling, ergo Snyder hates Superman
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>>83997680
Only AUS so far kiwi friend.
https://village.roadshow.com.au/batman-v-superman#/batman-v-superman/Resources/Forms/Batman-v-superman-screening
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>>83997687
I know you're not going to understand this because you're from /tv/ and don't actually understand the character, but Superman has ALWAYS had that burden on his shoulders. He doesn't angst about it, because that's just not who he is. Some guys don't angst. They work through the pain. That's what he does. He's just enough of an optimist and focuses on the good in his life and the world so that it won't get to him.

To put it another way, there's a scene from a few years ago where he's talking to another younger Kryptonian about their super senses and the kid goes into the stuff Snyder does. He goes "How can you deal with all the screaming and hate and bad things in your senses"? and Clark sits the kid down and goes "By listening for the good parts; for mothers meeting their newborns for the first time, for a guy playing fetch with his dog, for people exchanging wedding vows." THAT is who Clark is.

Ever since COIEClark has never been framed as wholly perfect. Hell, the most famous cover of that is literally "Look how Clark failed." Your assumption that this is what complainers want just reveals your ignorance and unwillingness to have the debate in good faith. The problem isn't that he gets angry or that he feels sad, it's how it's *enacted*. It's not the emotions present, it's what the story *does* with them.

But go ahead ignore this again so we can have this exact same conversation in a day and you act like all people want is some campy version you've constructed in your head that hasn't existed in forty years and still manages to not be Snyder's man of moping.
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>>83997848
So your point is nothing ever gets to Superman? Boring.
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>>83997892
That's what Batman is for.
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>>83997904
So each superhero gets only one emotion?
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>>83997848
>presuming

Fuckstain, I have copies of New Frontier, COIE, Kingdm Come, Secret identity, All Star, For All Seasons, Morrison's Action Comics, Geof Johns and Gary Frank's run from several years back, on my shelf. I dont read every issue of every run, but I know comics Superman.

The point is, thats one way, it doesn't have to be the only way. The end point is the same, the journey is different.
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>>83992769
Extra scenes to an already perfect movie. From 10/10 to 11/10.
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>>83997406
Can you explain how the editing was bad in the theatrical version and good in the Ultimate Cut? Just a few examples, please.
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>>83998221
Not him, but from what I remember...

- Scenes are fleshed out, meaning their inclusion in the film makes more sense and the narrative flow is more logical
- Extended scenes allow for more breathing room, not making it feel like each scene is rushing to the next.
- New scenes allow for more fluid pacing and more natural transitions as it no longer feels like the movie jumping from one plot point to another at random

for example I remember reading that even the scene with Wonder Woman watching the League videos has a longer intro, giving the scene a better establishing shot, and flow from the prior scene.

Stuff like that.
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>>83997892
He's lying. Superman is always trying to improve. Even to impossible levels.
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>>83995441
Clark, it's me Diana!
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>>83998221
A lot of the deleted scenes provided additional context that really helped the overall story and flow.

For example, let's look at the end scene with Bruce and Lex. In the theatrical cut, Bruce visits Lex and lex comes off as somewhat deranged and for lack of a better term "Joker/Riddler-like", which was supported by the bit more manic presentation he had through the cut.

In the UE, he has much more of a background presence throughout the film, giving him a more sinister puppetteer presence, and his motivation for hating Superman has been expanded with additional dialogue here and there. The Communion scene, which I've added below was also added.

Taking all those into account, the prison scene comes off completely different since it's had much more buildup as well as being extended with extra footage. When Batman threatens him with the brand, Lex is at first unafraid and taunts him by hinting that he knows he's Bruce Wayne and that he'll get off easy by pleading insanity. He comes off as a much more competent villain than we saw in the theatrical. After this, Bruce reveals that he's thought of this situation already and has arranged to have Lex transferred to Arkham, which upsets Lex causing him to break down i to the scene we saw in the theatrical cut. Due to the Communion scene, we have a better understanding of why Lex is acting that way, since he apparently managed to contact what are essentially space gods using the scout ship's library of knowledge.

The entire movie comes off much neater and smoother. If the theatrical cut is the skeleton and essential organs of a body, the UE adds in much needed connective tissue and musculature.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s-MUzvASr8s
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>>83997406
>they're screening it in theatres for free

>p-p-please watch BvS
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You know I ashamed to admit it, but I kind of want to pick this up out of morbid curiosity. I want to know how much the editing department had a hand in this clusterfuck
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>>83997954
Yeah and you're a navy seal trained in guerilla warfare too, I'm sure.
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>>83997848
He is talking with olsen, fuck off fuck you and fuck geaff johns
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>>83992769
This is an advertisement, not a thread.
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>>83992769
I still can't believe this isn't the cover of a porno. The JL posters are going to be even worse.

>unite the 7
>the six heroes and Aquaman's girlfriend
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>>83998397
Anon look where he is in that though.
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>>83998915
The UE is really good and the additional material really brings the production together.

I think the Africa scene is probably the most expanded part of the cut and finally makes sense. In the deleted scenes, KGBeast kills everyone and frames Superman for the deaths. The lady giving a testimony to the Senate is actually an actress hired by Lex to help frame Superman. After some time, she soon fears for her life due to KGBeast trying to track her down and she goes to Senator Finch and confesses her part in Lex's scheme. The Senate hearing is thus totally transformed from a scene where they're confronting Superman about his activities to one where Finch is about to reveal Lex's machinations and absolve Superman, hence her "Today is a day for truth." comments. Unfortunately she finds out too late that Lex already knows what happened and what she's trying to do, hence the tea scene. After that scene, we see Superman flying injured survivors out of the building to paramedics to be treated, but even though he's helping they're wary of him because of everything going on.

The revelation of the actress going and telling Finch the truth also transforms the scene where Lex is transporting the kryptonite at the docks. It goes from a scene where Lex is just doing whatever he wants even though he tried asking the senators for the proper permits to one where he's getting the kryptonite transported because he senses his parts of his plan are starting to unravel and is trying to salvage things by getting the kryptonite in-house before he's caught.
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>>83999107
No I'm pretty sure it was Chris.
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>>83999152
Im still waiting for a good pic of Flash's costume. I really hope they tweaked it from the images we've seen
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>>83997305
>Inherent will to do good
How is that not part of just about every hero?
>Willing to risk self to save others
How is that not part of just about every hero?
>Son of two world and two fathers.
That is one point.

Superman is the character who inspires hope and is able to see the good in everyone.
He is the one who can make you want to be a better person just be being around him.
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>>83999276
Im not expecting it to do a complete 180 for me, but perhaps enough to let me sit through it again. Though I suppose the addition context is nice. We still deserve a better film than this
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>>83999301
>He is the one who can make you want to be a better person just be being around him.

That's what he did for Batman at the end of BvS.
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>>83999389
That's fine. I'll pretty much just copy/paste what I said above.

>I initially didn't like BvS all that much since I felt like it was choppy and poorly edited, but the UE really helped. If you liked the movie, you'll like the UE. If you're like me and wasn't too into the movie for technical reasons like the editing, give it a shot. I think you'll likely enjoy it. If you don't like the movie for fundamental reasons - you don't like Snyder, you don't like the direction of the characters, etc. - you might as well skip it since it's largely the same movie and the film just isn't for you. Movies, like any form of art, is subjective and different people like different things.
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>>83999280
that's the costume that lets him enter people's dreams, right
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>>83999554
I was referring to the concept art and the set pic, because I cant get too mad at alt timeline Barry anyway since its not the final result. Main concerns are logo and cowl ears, because I dont want the Captain America shit happening
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Charisma is not a dump stat.

>>83999439
"Just by being around him" isn't the same as needing to die.
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>>83999439
>>83999665
What about Wonder Woman? And a large portion of humanity after Man of Steel? He caused so much hope that people literally stared thinking he was a god.
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>>84000595
Yeah, that's not causing hope, that's causing mindless drones.
Kind of fitting now that I think about it.

Still they are all inspired by his power, not him being the guy who takes the time to get a cat out of a tree right after he saves the world.
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>>84000853
They're inspired by how he USES the power. You're a fool if you can't see that. People are amazed at how he saves people no matter where they are or how tough the situation may seem. Superman doesn't have time to do small things like saving a cat out of a tree because he's busy moving tectonic plates, stopping devastating viruses, moving humongous ships, helping out during a failed rocket launch, and many other things. People are inspired because he saves you regardless of whether you're American, Russian, Mexian, or any other race or nationality. He's not there just to save people of his own country; he goes around the world.

Superman here never had the luxury of helping out in small matters because in his first day on the job he was pushed into a fight against a force that could annihilate all of mankind. Once people saw that power, there was a lot more expected out of him. Can you imagine if someone say him save a cat out of a tree in this universe?

"Superman wastes time saving cat out of tree when he could have been saving HUMAN LIVES"
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>>84001344
>Superman doesn't have time to do small things like saving a cat out of a tree
But that's exactly the sort of thing Superman should do. Seeing a kid in distress cos her pet is stuck up a tree, he'd want to help.
> Can you imagine if someone say him save a cat out of a tree in this universe?
and that's the fucking problem. No one fucking wants to see Superman in 'real universe'. We want to see him and the other DC characters in the DC universe.
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>>83997954
>The point is, thats one way, it doesn't have to be the only way. The end point is the same, the journey is different.

When one way is good and the other way ain't, then maybe it DOES have to be the only way.
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>>83997848
>there's a scene from a few years ago where he's talking to another younger Kryptonian about their super senses and the kid goes into the stuff Snyder does. He goes "How can you deal with all the screaming and hate and bad things in your senses"? and Clark sits the kid down and goes "By listening for the good parts; for mothers meeting their newborns for the first time, for a guy playing fetch with his dog, for people exchanging wedding vows."
Anyone know what issue this is from?
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>>83995903
>Like the extra scenes are gonna somehow fix it all

Who says it needs fixing? The Ultimate Edition will only make it even more Kino.
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>>83996411
>After their hug box thread where they actually said that negative posts were not allowed, I lost a lot of respect for any supporters of this movie.

Maybe people just wanted a thread where they could talk about what they liked about the movie without company wars, bitching about Snyder and Evans posting immediately taking over the thread.
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>>83997432
>It also makes him imperfect though

Superman IS imperfect. This isn't the 1950s anymore where Superman is your ideal, sterile and unoffensive surrogate father figure.
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one thing i can admit is the music in BVS is fan-fucking-tastic

still pissed doomsday was a LOTR cave troll though
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>>83997131
>Because he doesn't understand what makes Superman a good character.

I don't see how that means he "doesn't like Superman".

This board is populated by people who have corrupted "there's always a way" into some kind of pseudoreligious meme about how NOKILLINGEVERNOWAY when for decades it just meant doing the impossible (whether in space or not), but while those people don't understand Superman, they clearly like him.

And on the other hand this board is also populated with people who think Superman is cool because he shoots nuclear death beams out of his face and could punch the moon into dust, but the fact that they clearly don't understand him either doesn't mean they don't like him.
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>>83997573
Have you considered homosexuality my dude
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>>83995012
She literally looks like a generic pornstar. I almost mistook the OP image for a Brazzers spoof.
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>>83997494
She looks good in that picture but the shots of her as WW look like shit.
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