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Hey guys

I made a new video looking at Aja's panel density using a page from Hawkeye #2.

Would be interested to see what you think. Always looking for more suggestions of topics to tackle as well if anyone has any ideas!

https://youtube.com/watch?v=wqbPRTi8SN8
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Oh hey, I saw this earlier!

Thumbs up sir. I like the in-depth analysis.
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>>83922042
I love how excited you sound when talking about this. You sound a lot like me in that sense lol. Ive never seen your videos, but if you love stuff like that, you should talk about how Mike Mignola uses his art to tell his story.
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Aja and Fraction are geniuses together. Thanks, bro.
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>>83922042
I think it's incredible for how "wordy" that book can be, it doesn't overwhelm you like say, a Bendis book. Aja keeps you visually stimulated so you never even notice how much you're actually reading. His flip shots also serve to show you how isolated and distant the two are at this point in the book.

Also nice voice. North England?
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>>83922133
>North England
For the record I have no idea, just calibrating my accent index.
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Hawkguy is bad

Marvel is bad
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>>83922133
Yeah I really wanted to show an example from a Bendis book in a "how to do it the boring regular way" - but I think I'll jist keep the focus on positive stuff!

Yep. Grim north.

>>83922104
Yeah definitely want to do Mignola. I'm working my way through Hellboy in He'll at the moment, so might use some of that!
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I thought I heard some weird background sounds around the third minute, but maybe not

Anyway, I thought it was okay. I don't usually watch YouTube so maybe that's why I don't have strong opinions. Kind of started getting bored in the last minute, wished you would have used other examples from the series instead of just talking about one page.

Never did finish the series after all the delays, maybe I should read it all again.
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as a longtime reader and an occasional McCloud fan, I too notice these things, but often take them for granted, so I dig your analysis.

I mostly admire that you can find these panels attention worthy - I all too often just blitz through modern comics just to finish them. I really need to start focusing like you do.
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>>83922159
>Yeah I really wanted to show an example from a Bendis book in a "how to do it the boring regular way" - but I think I'll jist keep the focus on positive stuff!
Well I don't think Bendis is bad per se, I just don't think his style necessarily lends itself to comics. Fraction and Aja put a storyboard on paper. That's one of the reasons why I'm baffled Marvel won't use it for a Netflix series.

It's not just stylish, it's fully realizing the art form.
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>>83922165
Thanks for checking it out. That's probably just the way my brain works - I can get fixated on one little thing!

>>83922191
I'm the exact same. My thoughts are it's designed to be invisible, so if you do notice them first time round, someone's probably trying too hard.
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>>83922159
Oh brother, if your reading Hellboy in Hell, wait till you get to the last pages of the last issue. I wont spoil anything but its just beautiful.
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>>83922232
It would translate to Netflix very very well I think.

Bendis isn't bad, no, but like you say about Hawkeye, it doesn't often think of a cleverer way of getting through exposition that just panels of loads of dialogue.

>>83922254
Only a few issues to go!
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>>83922279
Well keep up the videos, I enjoyed this one very much.
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>>83922422
Thanks :)
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>>83923534
I'm glad there's finally a nice channel for this, and I look forward to it slowly raising in quality and popularity.
Hellboy requests everywher, you know what to do.
Also, Hawkeye is kind of controversial here. Half hate it because of its "tumblr" style, and the other half loves it, because they read it.
Definitely do Hellboy, everyone's requesting it.
I would like to request Pax Americana. It's easy to wrap your head around it, but the analysis might be fun.
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>>83923674
Can't believe Pax Americana isn't on my list! Great suggestion.

Yeah I'm getting a lot of Hellboy so itll be in the next couple of vids for sure.

Hawkeye is just a masterclass is sequential storytelling I think. Aja is one of those artists you let work with the "Marvel" style... he knows how to break down a page.
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>>83923674
what is this tumblr style?
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>>83924826
Dumb male
Super smart females
Memes like bro
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>>83924864
What does that have to do with the art in the comic?

Even if someone doesn't like the writing, there's no doubt that Aja is a great artist and storyteller.
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>>83922042
Your videos are very nice, man.
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>>83924060
>>83924933
Yeah, but the writing is "oh-so-silly". Things like "Hawkguy" and "Pizzadog" make people think it's not a serious piece of work on first glance. Not to mention that whole running and forced joke with the "bro". Almost cartoony behaviour, and the artstyle follows that writing.
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>>83922094
>>83922104
>>83922110
Hello OP
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>page where there's a ton of fucking dialogue has a ton of panels
>the artist changes the characters expressions therefore its good storytelling

Amazing analysis. 5* liked and subscribed.
Amazing work.
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>>83925106
Definitely cartoon-y though. It's still within the realms of a superhero big two comic. Just because something isn't "serious" in theme doesn't mean it's not a "serious" piece of art.
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>>83925419
I know, if you read back my posts, that's exactly what I said. People who love it, love it because they read it, people who hate it, hate it because they've only seen the shallow surface of a truly gripping comicbook.
I understand also that it's cartoony, and knows it, and it works amazingly well. Just try to understand this from a different view. All hail the new Hawkeye comic, brilliant writing, magnificent details, yadi-yadi-yada. Then someone goes "I'll check this out! Sounds great!", then they see:
>Matt Fraction
>Cartoony art
>Cartoony jokes
They were "lied" to, given false expectations and idea of what it is. They expect a more sophisticated thing. I know it's a great comic with a lot of deep emotions, but you get these people reading on the surface, and you tell them "Oh, you're just not reading inbetween the lines enough, maaaan." You do know how that sounds, when one of the issues is just "bro". I love the comic, but I can totally understand where the hate comes from, and why.
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>>83925203
even when you try to spin it the OP still sounds right
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Good stuff OP. I was curious, your reviews so far have all been stuff from 2012 and beyond, do you ever plan on reviewing older comics from say like the 90's, 80's, or 00's?
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>>83926101
Some 80's/90's Marvel I'd love to take a look at, and Harvey Pekar has a little video planned. I'm working my way through what's freshest in the memory at he moment really!
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I read Harrow County and it's brilliant. People say it's a horror comic, It's more a southern gothic fairytale. They're are parts that can be quite ominous. Maybe you could do a video of a comic builds a sense of dread via framing and narrative.

On the same topic, One thing I noticed about Tom King's "Vision" is the exposition boxes are completely incongruent with what's actually happening in the panels themselves, and even the character's dialogue. (The first issue, with the vase is a /very/ good example of this.) Everything's rather superficial, which seems parrell with the '50's Americana King seems to be invoking. An era of pretence.
It creates a great level of foreboding and foreshadowing that can make you afraid to turn the next page, because you wonder when shits gonna hit the fan.

How writers use panelling and narrative to create a heavy sense of uneasiness and dread sounds like an intriguing video concept.
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>>83925889
There's also the "I can appreciate the craftsmanship that went into this but this dude isn't anything like the Clint I know from a whole lot of comics before this, sigh" perspective.
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>>83926276
Heck, I might try to do it myself. I love creepy stuff like that, and it would help if I could transfer what I'd gleaned into my own work, helped by someone far more articulate and better at analysing comics then myself!

What other video topics do you have lined up, SNC?
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>>83926574
*SPN
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>>83926276
You're basically talking about the idea I've got drafted for a look at King's Vision #1 haha! That immediately hit me when I read it, the vase issue. Also that P vs NP issue is genius in its understanding of that concept.
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>>83926306
Also known as the "MUH" perspective
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>>83923674
>hate it because its tumblr
I hate it because it shits on Clint.
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>>83926862
kek
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>>83926615
Great minds think alike! I would pay definite attention between the convo, between Mrs Vision and Vision. It tells use so much about them, and their "personhood". They are a couple who after having neighbours over are having an argument over the semantics of words. Pleasant, simple adjectives like "Nice" and "Kind" cause confusion. Something that we an organic beings who have been raised speaking English wouldn't pay to minds about they are mulling over the denotations and connotations of these modifiers and analysing every possible context they could be read as. They don't just seem like this polished family down the street, but complex algorithisms trying to analyse humans. This stark contrast of the 50's façade married to these in-organic beings with very complex brains, create a feeling of "Not quite right" and an uneasy "uncannily valley" feeling, because even though they display human characteristics, you know at the end of the day they aren't.

And, the vase! The extended metaphor of the vase is a parellel for their whole relationship/family. (Would say more, but can't find page.)

Really, this comic is a gem.
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>>83927295
*confusion and debate
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>>83926615
BTW, What is P vs NP?
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>>83927403

What it is is really hard to explain. That Vision issue does a better job than I or this wiki entry ever could.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/P_versus_NP_problem
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>>83927295
Also, that single bubble of "nice", with the long beat, before explaining in the second bubble his reasoning making it look like he's chiding his wife. He's very abrupt. Like he's explaining pedantically to a child. (And she is young. If I remember correctly he made her recently.) The conversation is so cold, there doesn't feel like there's love in this relationship. (Are robots capable of love?) This echoes all the way through further issues. There is a disconnect between them.


(He wants Wanda, doesn't he?)
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>>83922042
Holy shit, that was A really good, like, really good.
>Content I find interesting
>Good update schedule
>Concise and informative
>praising Hawkeye

Yeah, subscribed. Keep it up mate.
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>>83927564
Damn, by eyes are glossing over this scientific jargon, but thanks away. Perhaps, that issue can simplify it for me. Do you know what number of Vision it was?
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>>83927069
Oh come on, Anon. It's a character from a big budget company, you know characters there get retconned and raped every other tuesday. You shouldn't care, and just enjoy the character as is, and not what he is supposed to be based on previous interpretations. You shouldn't base your opinion on how the character was in previous incarnations. Even though I understand where you're coming from. Thanos was one of my favorites, and it Aaron just destroyed him and I got annoyed aswell, and didn't read his run.
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>>83927839
#6 if I remember right.

And yeah, the whole Tom King Vision is fantastic. It really is just this idea of advertising, being sold the perfect life and slowly coming to realise that it will never be like that. Really quite an effective thing. I love what Marvel have allowed creators to do in some of these smaller, almost indie-like "superhero" books.
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>>83927947
>the whole Tom King Vision is fantastic
It's a shame about his Batman ...
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>>83927947
People are saying it feels "Vertigoesque", and I completely agree. It's a very weird fit for a Marvel book. It's more slower and paced, and is a focused character piece, rather than a Bang! Boom! action spectacle.

Thanks, for the number. Another thing I've noticed is compared to most Mainstream cape books, King uses expositional boxes for Vision A LOT, to drive the narrative, than just dialogue bubbles alone. I guess it adds to the "Indiesque" feel of the book. This technique allows King to give us that visceral "uneasy" feeling as there is a conplete mis-match as to what doing on in the prose vs the picture.
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Reading King's posts here makes me curious to read more of his work but Batman #1 was such a boring, deflated mumble and didn't really have any meat to it. The way he posts and phrases his ideas here makes me think there's a lot going on in his head that doesn't make it to the page.
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>>83928212
>>83928807
It seems King's Batman has a rather Lukewarm reception around here, I have yet to read the issue. Perhaps, it's because by virtue of being Batman he has a much heavy editorial mandate on him, in comparison to his other titles. I think he has talked/tinted at the pressure in interviews. Guess we'll see how it feels in the coming issues and whether his run will continue his critical winning streak.
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>>83927759
Also, seeing how much you praise the good, I'd love to hear your thoughts on artists from the 90's plastic age.
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>>83927872
I cant enjoy seeing Clint dying/getting shat on every fucking time.
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>>83928807
Batman is really the worst thing you could start if you want to read King stuff. I suggest you check out Vision #1, it's one of the best first issues I've read in the last couple of years.
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>>83922042
I loved your work pal, good thing that you have there.

do you know any analisis for lewd or pornographic comics? I often work with it and I'm curious if you know how to build scenes for one. Would you do a vídeo about it?
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>>83927713
Also, interesting thing about the bubbles, is they never really close. He continues on this very esoteric topic never missing a beat. Talking about the distance and dynamic between them, he has more dialogue, which shows his dominance to the convosation and a bit of a power imbalance to their relationship. (He created her) In the middle panels when she talks his back is turned, no eye contact. Yet, she always maintains her gaze on him, like she's seeking his approval. He only really looks at her, when she says something he agrees with/ deams "obvious". There's never any physically contact between the couple only the transference of the cookie tray from her hands to his, our eyes follow from the 1st middle panel to the third. (Something man-made/inorganic, like them.)

Adding to the discordant effect/techniques King employs, let's just state the obvious, The Visions themselves. They aren't normal. They're aren't human. They're synethoids. The non-naturalistic colours of red skin, green eyes are in complete contrast to the dour greys and browns of their kitchen. The bottom left-hand panel, where the Visions are framed by cabinets show this effect quite well.

Hey, I'm learning something new! Analysing comics can be really fun.
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Saw it yesterday, alongside the Moon Knight vid.

I'd love to see an analysis about sequential humor, explored in Steve Lieber's art. The Fix and Superior Foes do it excellently.
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>>83929862
Sheriff of Babylon has a wonderful emphasis on violence and motion. Gunshots occur in black BANG panels.
The Omega Men could be analyzed on color and panel perspectives
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>>83931463
I feel like all of King's comics have something special to them, except Batman. Everything about the comic is so average from those 2 issues. Standard cape comic, which is not what I was expecting from him.
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>>83931518
Ironic, since I actually really enjoyed Finch on art.
I still have faith in King, as I didn't think Sherriff of Babylon and Omega Men were that special from issue 1.
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>>83931333
Green hair*
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>>83926306
I read really early Clint so it reminds me a lot of him back then. A fuckup in a Hank Pym sort of way but still a hero. I think it perfectly shows the flaws of syndicated comic books through a character
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>>83931518
Same feeling. Batman felt very pedestrian.
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>>83923674
>Half hate it because of its "tumblr" style, and the other half loves it, because they read it.
Fuck off, I read it and it's fucking awful, the only reason it was succesful was because of Aja art
>>>/co/mblr
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Have you formally studied film, SPN, or do you just research/read in your own time for fun?
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>>83934590
Yeah I did Film Production at Uni.

In terms of comics analysis it's jus Scott McCloud and reading a lot of comics.
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>>83935233
Ah, that's explains a lot. The way you analyse panels, and framing composition seems to be from a some what film perspective. I've heard of the Scott McCloud book and "Framed Ink" as being really good books that focus on comic as a vehicle for visual storytelling and help explain why certain things work the way they do. Is the McCloud book that good? Have you heard of the latter?

Semi-related, what's on your pull list/what are you reading? I just plowed through 10 issues of Harrow County. It's so good. And, I like the fact that it's not set during the time of the witch "Hestor Beck", but in the aftermath several years later. Tyler Crooks' art is amazing. The wood seem to have a life of their own. And, the side stories a great. It's like every nook and cranny of this county is plagued by the supernatural. Slightly claustrophobic, entertaining to read about, but I certainly wouldn't want to live there. Hope the TV show keeps the same ominous feeling of the comic.
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>>83936275
McCloud's Understanding Comics is really great. Some of it might be fairly obvious if you've been reading comics for a while though, but it's a great read.

I have a lot... Southern Bastards, Saga, Providence, Wolf, Lumberjanes, Injection... various stuff really. But mostly a lot of Image.
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>>83936275
And nope not heard of Framed Ink - I'll definitely check it out!
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>>83922243

>My thoughts are it's designed to be invisible, so if you do notice them first time round, someone's probably trying too hard.


YEP

which sadly is why the people never get a proper due
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>>83932556

yeah when that book was at it's hottest I was reading old Avengers and couldn't (and still can't) get my mind around how it ruined Clint or w/e dumb thing people said.
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>>83927713

> (Are robots capable of love?)

yes, fuck you.
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>>83922042
As always OP, the videos are great. As for requests, maybe do something by Moore? Anything but Watchmen, seeing as how that's been analyzed by everybody and their mother.
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>>83937199
Even if something's "obvious", it can still be hard to articulate the reasons "why" into words. Having a book that can solidify those concepts can be a huge help in aiding comprehension and clarity of understanding. I'm enjoying Saga, too! But, admittedly I've slowed down. The fourth trade is still standing on my shelf, spine intact. Waiting to read the forth trade of "Nailbiter". I wanted to get into the new Powerman/Iron Fist, I love Danny and Luke, but the writing and characterisation are doing nothing for me. Any recs?

I really want to buy "Framed Ink", it not only details composition of shots, but also lighting and perspective, and by what I'm seen a myriad of different things.

http://www.parkablogs.com/content/book-review-framed-ink-drawing-and-composition-visual-storytellers
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>>83937819
Haha, aww.
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>>83922042
Well dang.

You got yourself a subscriber, bro.
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Dude, I hope you know this channel's gonna be huge. Also, comic professionals are gonna love the fuck out of you, because you make them look like geniuses. Not saying they aren't smart, but what what I'm gathered from artists that started from a young age, it's all rather intuitive. You've just help break down, in a way the layman can understand why their panelling/composition is so damn effective. Well done.
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>>83938320
Thanks a lot :)

>>83938739
As I say I picture the artists like cinematographers. There's a lot of decisions that go into a panel and you can really agonise over it - or you can just draw and get the basic content across. Some are just lucky enough to make the latter look like the former!
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>>83939815
Oh, if only I could be so lucky! Seeing them as cinematographers is cool, they both focus how visuals are displayed to an audience. I should do reseach on that. (Any resources you would reccomend?)

What's next on the list of topics you want to cover SPN?
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>>83939815
>>83940549

They're also directors, they choose the expressions and body language and yadda yadda yadda.

Like Byrne always featured Wolverine cause he wanted to promote a Canadian hero
>And Chris told me at one point, “We’re going to write Wolverine out because we don’t know what to do with him. And I stamped my little foot and said there is no way you’re writing out the only Canadian character. And so I made him mine. Whenever I do a group book I make one character mine and sort of focus on that character so I have a focus for the book.”
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>>83922042
Why Lemire's run is so bad?
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>>83922042
Dang.
That wasn't stupid.
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>>83943631
Hes a hack who jacks off on Clint bashing. Like Bendis.
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Good stuff OP.
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I need more comics like Hawkeye, any recs?
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>>83929144
Fucking corporate editors are cocksuckers. When King hits the gas he can drive a beautiful book.
Batman was so disappointing and I feel like it's because DC was going, "Make it dumber. Dumber! Still not dumb enough!"
"B-but I want to actually tell a story..."
"Who wants a story? Make it fast and exciting and fill up your pages with massive panels and just blow the pacing out its ass. You think you're still writing Vision?"
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>>83925203
It's not just the faces bro. Did you even watch the video?
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>>83946485
>bro
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>>83946589
Sis?
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>>83940549
Definitely something on colour theory. Something on mood. I have a couple of ideas for short content too, just like a couple of minutes on the opening of All-Star Superman for example.

For research try anything by Bordwell and Thompson. They are great.

>>83943186
Yep very good point. They kind of have to be all encompassing.

>>83943631
To me it jist lacked heart in the writing. Which is a shame, because Lemire at his best is all about heart (Essex County).

>>83943873
Thanks!

>>83945077
Hmm. Well if you haven't read it, the Iron Fist run with Fraction and Brunner a few years ago is great, too.

>>83945989
Why hire King and do that. That's what's so confusing.
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>>83924060
If you're taking suggestions, are you doing anything by Chris Ware? That guy is probably my favorite artist, and certainly my favorite layout man.
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>>83926276
>it's more a southern gothic fairytale
THANK YOU. Finally someone gets it.
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>>83928807
King's posts where? Anyway, though it's not as great as Vision, Grayson and above all Omega Men, I liked King's Batman for what it was (a big, loud action comic).
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>>83948238
Hm, I learned something. Neat.
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>>83946589
Seriously bro
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>>83929144
It wasn't bad by any means, it was actually pretty decent and one of the best Batman issues in a while (not saying much though). It did get a bit heavyhanded in one scene though. But King has just built up a kind of reputation of himself that people were just expecting a lot more and seeing a standard cape comic made them pretty disappointed. And there's also the folks not familiar with King's work that only know of him from the hype and it didn't get close to the quality he was hyped up about. That being said, I think it will get better as it goes a long and will end up a decent run. Maybe not as great as some of his other comics, but still decent to read.
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>>83947806
>Why hire King and do that.
I mean, he was already working for them. In fact, his best work has been with them.
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>>83948211
I really, really, really want to tackle something in Building Stories. It's just trying to figure out how to do it in a digestible way under 10 minutes.
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>>83947806
>Why hire King and do that.
That's probably not what they're doing. The only reason they even put him on batman is because they know he is talented and want his name out there because Batman sells. And his editor is DOyle who seems to give most creative freedom amongst the DC group editors. So, it's just what King wants to write. People are tripping over themselves trying to find a way to shift the blame from King.
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>>83947806
>Definitely something on colour theory.
yes plz. DO that!
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>>83938739
Aja already spotlighted this vid. It's neat OP, you've obviously really hit a niche people were looking for. I am sure that if/when this really teakes off you will be writing comics if you want to, too.
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>>83922042
has Gillen ever written any Clint stories? I feel like he would of done this entire series better because he writes a good Kate without overdoing her
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>>83929712
Seriously
it sucks being a Hawkeye fan really

>Oh want a book with a based artist?
>half of it is going to shit on you and the other half is about some random teenage girl in another city
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There's a massive lack of art education in even very prominent and mainstream comics criticism, so what you are doing is fantastic. I really can't overstate how valuable I think something very informative and very accessible like this is. It's great!

As for requests, I think Mignola is a good option for sure. What about some stuff by Blutch? Or Paul Pope? And Omega Men did tons of work with its layouts and can always use more love.
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>>83950918
even COPRA or some of Andrea Sorrentino's art which masks his writers' deficiencies and tells amazing stories with the art or some of Ware's work
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>>83929712
>>83950811
Alright, as I said, fairnuff.
Could you guys explain to me what makes Clint Clint? What makes him tick? I'm asking out of curiousity, not to fuel this sense of injustice done to the character.
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>>83922042
Good video op. I feel like you're a Marvel guy (shame) but if you really like talking about dense visual storytelling, panel composition and unique layouts, do Morrison/Quitely stuff. WE3, Batman and Robin/Time and the Batman and Multiversity: Pax Americana are obvious choices here but even their earliest collaboration on Flex Mentallo comes to mind.
Also post this shit on plebbit for more visibility, they eat up anything with Fagtion's name on it.
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>>83951119
Already has been. And of course another hilarious repost of the Quiver page of Taylor's injustice got ten times as many upvotes.
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>>83950918
Thanks a lot. That's why I started it really. A lot of comic reviews just tend to be:

- Intro to issue story.
- Is the art okay?
- Is the writing all right?
- Conclusion.

Seems like a lot were really talking about what the comics are doing.

>>83951119
Yeah I don't have a lot of knowledge on DC stuff. I'd say I'm more of an indies/Image guy though. My only Marvel reads are the kind of indie-esque titles they do.

>>83951235
Quiver page?

>>83951235
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>>83952228
>My only Marvel reads are the kind of indie-esque titles they do.
I would recommend Prez from DC, it's great and I think you'll enjoy it.
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>>83952228
Omega Men is definitely worth checking out, though. Tom King's best work by far, and it does some really cool stuff with panels and symmetry.
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>>83952228
>I'm more of an Image guy
Anon please. If you're going to go hipster, do it right.

And if I may request/recommend a comic, I'd say try Building Stories by Chris Ware.
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>>83952722
See: >>83950188
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>>83952722
What do you recommend?
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>>83952386
Few people have said Omega Men. It's on the list now :)
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>>83954959
yaaay
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>>83954959
I recommended you Kraven's Last Hunt. Are you going to do that as well?
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>>83955313
Yeah Kraven's is a bit like Building Stories. It's about figuring out how to bring that content in to a reasonable length. There's a lot to talk about in that/ Definitely want to tackle it though.
If anyone is interested, I've just launched a Patreon. My videos are, and will continue to be, free. But if anyone would like to support, and get access to additional content and discussion, the the option is open to support the videos on-going.

If anyone has any suggestions for reward material they'd like to see, would love to hear it, too.

https://www.patreon.com/StripPanelNaked
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>>83955447
You consider doing foreign comics liek european or japanese ones?
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>>83951105
Clint is the kind of guy who quits the Avengers so he can lead the Thunderbolts because no one other than him will give a team of ex-villains on the run a fair shake. And with NO POWERS, he takes them on in their first meeting and does a skillful divide-and-conquer. Doesn't play very well with authority--if he's not leading, get ready for the shit tests.
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>>83956655
Yeah definitely some manga - someone mentioned decompression in manga the other day which has been on my list of topics for a while.
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>>83948238
People have described it as a "Horror" comic, as I guess it could be that, the genre doesn't have to be small, but it's non-traditional in that it's horror and intrigue lie more in it's environment, than just a person/people. It plays up the deep dark woods of the south, and there are plenty of panels of just the land itself, and simple country-folk just going about their day, which mythic creatures, some conjured by a witch co-exist in their county. It has a slightly whimsical quality to it, in-spite of monstrous threats. So, I suppose the "Horror" comic label doesn't completely fit. Saw someone use those descriptors before, and it seems more appropriate.
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>>83953868
Not him but try We Can Never Go Home or 4 Kids Walk in The Bank for full hipster experience.
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>>83957806
I'd love to see something on Atsushi Kaneko, like if you did Soil.
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>>83960355
But those aren't very good, amte.
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>>83957806
Ishinomori? Best superhero artist.
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>>83960355
I'll try taking a look!
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>>83955447
Please always remember your first patreon came from this shithole
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>>83963961
Haha - if that was you Anon I really appreciate it. Hopefully can provide with you with some interesting content going forward :)
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>>83922042
Cool
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>>83957806
Cool, what authors do you have in mind?
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>>83965048
I wanted to look at exposition panels and scene detailing. So it might be across a range actually.
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bumo
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I just watched it. It is OK
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>>83968976
Thanks for taking the time!
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>>83922042
Moon Knight and Black Widow videos were the best on my opinion. Helped me a lot.

Where do you learned it?
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>>83970336
I'm guessing it's applying theories from cinematography mostly. Although some book recommendations to study would be pretty great.
>>83922042
Keep up the good work I subbed two weeks ago haven't be disappointed since.
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I might check other works by this artist.
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>>83972189
He has some good stuff
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>>83970475
I'm hoping that's part of what can be offered on the Patreon going forward. Sharing reading lists pertaining to the topics of the videos and such.

In terms of film theory though, a good place to start is Bordwell and Thompson's Film Art: An Introduction.
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>>83927295
Love the way that last panel of Vision just slides off the bottom of the page when all before it have been properly framed. It's like a long slow fade out in film. Vision drops the mic after a particularly glowing insight.
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>>83922042
This is fantastic, i hope you keep making these
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>>83979249
Hey! Cheers :)
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>>83978839
This
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>>83978839
>>83981204
Unless you have something to say, let the thread die.
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>>83981454
Thank you.
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I think he is lying and he totally wants sleep with her.
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No problem with me.
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