Yeah, you tell that kid! He definitely deserved to be yelled at for the sake of humor!
But in all seriousness, we need to get our betting on for how horrible this will go. The fact that they're already getting into a bad moon this early can't bode well.
And how would Willis feel if someone yelled those things at his children?
>>83875510
Why would Marcus not stop and say hi?
>>83875599
I assumed it was because he was a small child who saw something or someone else more interesting. Or he's playing tag or some other game.
He also might not remember them because children often have terrible memories.
>>83875510
>we need to get our betting on for how horrible this will go
We've been doing that for years, I think it's time to stop.
It'll never, ever get better than this strip, it's all downhill from here.
>>83876277
>tfw when this happened to me, but she was gay and I'm not
Fuck
where's the thicc
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>>83876342
Well how often do gay stories end with the gay getting rejected instead of converting the previously straight?
Not oftenSpinnerette
>>83876277
The thing about DoA, is whenever I think it's gotten to it's absolute lowest point in quality, that there's no way the writing could get any worse or the characters could get anymore obnoxious and unlikable, Willis proves me wrong.
>>83876467
>Implying Becky isn't going to eventually rape the straight out of Joyce.
>>83875510
Where's the patreon strip?
Joyce's anger is starting to get annoying.
I feel bad for her, sure, but I feel she's misdirecting it.
>>83875510
>And how would Willis feel if someone yelled those things at his children?
Can we get an edit with one of his kids' names?
>>83875510
>And how would Willis feel if someone yelled those things at his children?
They deserve abuse for being the products of an evil hetero-normative relationship.
Am I the only one who thinks Becky looks good in a dress?
>>83876779
>>83876779
If you mean that dress specifically, then yeah, you probably are.
I think Becky could look good in a dress, but not a pink one.
>>83876424
http://www.joyceandwalky.com/members/200801movingon.html
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>>83875510
>But in all seriousness, we need to get our betting on for how horrible this will go.
Well it's Becky so there's a 150% chance she'll stand up to declare she's a lesbian.
>>83876397
comin' up
>>83877099
>>83876779
>Becky
>looks good
Choose one.
>>83875510
Have anyone of you guys noticed how Marcus looks like a kid version of the Rapist?
>>83878295
Sameface. Or he's his younger brother. Either way.
>>83878295
Marcus is a child of rape and he and his mother are very sensitive about the subject.
>>83878419
>post yfw Rapist shows up in Church and Joyce loses her shit
I mean... it was only like a week ago, right?
>>83878462
>Rapist shows up in Church and Joyce loses her shit
It's either this or Becky storming the podium.
Both at once would be a beautiful trainwreck
>>83878462
I don't think an out and out brawl in church as the climax of this arc would be too much to ask for.
>>83876277
Didn't that strip happen like a few weeks ago in canon? How can Joyce and Becky have gotten over it and gone back to BFFs in such a short time?
>>83878295
I don't even know is who is this damn comic half the time. The fragmented, unfocused storyline naturally doesn't help.
Where are the fundie blonde and the lesbian ginger going now?
>>83878928
I think it's only been one week, one and a half, tops.
>>83878928
About two weeks, three max. Toedad happened less than a week ago.
>>83875510
>And how would Willis feel if someone yelled those things at his children?
Unless they're being homeschooled I say wait a few years and find out.
>>83876483
>Implying Becky isn't going to eventually rape the straight out of Joyce.
>it will be played for humor
>"Oh that Becky, going around raping her friends! How quirky!"
>>83879110
Even if they're being homeschooled.
>>83879174
>The comments section will find it an empowering moment. "You go Becky! Assert your sexuality!"
>>83878295
>>83878462
>the rapist
The what now? I only see these threads once in a while. Did Willis really do a plotline about rape?
>>83879322
At the very beginning there was a party and a pastor's son roofied Joyce's drink.
>>83879263
...but her sexuality has nothing at all to do with anything that happens in the strip.
>>83878928
becky isnt actually over it, shes just pretending she is
that comes up every so often
and joyce is over it because rejecting someone isnt nearly as big a deal as being rejected and there isnt much for her to be "over". she didnt lose her friend, so she just kind of put it out of her mind.
The so-called spoilers.
>>83879738
Becky is sorta over it. Or at the very least her dating Dina is fulfilling enough that she isn't weird about it.
Tch, dang! I had two strips ready and I've been waiting for a thread all day!
And right when I get out of the house I finally notice a new thread.
Meh, well, it'll stay alive right?
>>83880009
Hmmm, well judging by the preview panels, most of this stuff happens...
Oh shit, joe's gonna fuck joyce.
OH SHIT! MY COMIC CALLED IT!
>>83880009
>carlas parents dont love her
not gonna happen
>>83878928
This is the problem with Willis' stupid ultracompressed timeline thing. Events that take hours in the comic take months worth of updates.
"Move-In Day" was September 2010. Almost six years ago.
But IIRC according to Willis it's been... about a month or two (I don't think we've hit Halloween yet).
So... ballpark there's about 2000 pages that means on average only about 20 minutes per page.
At that rate we should get to Christmas Break around October....... of 2033.
>>83880187
>MY COMIC CALLED IT
everybody called it, fuck off
>>83880009
>The fight is between Carla and Billie instead of Billie and Mary
Please God, let it be so. The fucking Carlafags and Billiefags on the forums would eat each other alive.
>>83875510
Dykes aren't really people, so it shouldn't come as a surprise that they'd scream profanities at children.
>>83880281
i figure itd be pretty one-sided actually
theres not gonna be any transphobia on billies part for the carla fans to get mad about, and even cerb already said shed be upset if carla dropped the ball re: ruth
>>83880224
>At that rate we should get to Christmas Break around October....... of 2033.
>Willis will be 55 before his comic finishes the first half of the first school year
HA!
>>83880311
joyce is straight
>>83880364
Not for long.
$50 says she becomes a lesbian just to stick it to those who have a problem with Becky.
>>83880344
>theres not gonna be any transphobia on billies part
Doesn't matter. The trannylovers on the forums will eviscerate Billie for saying anything negative towards Carla (because *any* negativity towards a trans person is apparently transphobic) and the Ruth/Billie shippers will blame Carla for destroying their ship.
We saw the starts of this the other day when Carla bailed on checking Ruth. The Billiefags were all dreading Ruth being hurt or leaving and being mad at Carla for not doing anything, and the Carlafags were all flipping out at them how she isn't responsible and they should stop transshaming her or whatever the word for it is.
>>83880411
If you don't want to be lesbians with your lesbian best-friend-since-you-were-old-enough-to-know-what-friendship-is... chances are you're not a lesbian.
>>83880459
If you seriously don't believe Becky/Joyce is the endgame, youre deluding yourself. Becky ALWAYS gets what she wants.
>>83880431
>Carlafags were all flipping out at them how she isn't responsible and they should stop transshaming her or whatever the word for it is.
Do the people who think like this even go to school? Or any facility of education?
>>83880526
willis says so himself. the universe will bend to reward her existance.
>>83878986
Their old church. Joyce hoped seeing all their old friends would help her feel better. Most of her friends are probably at college with their new friends.
>>83880254
When exactly? Because the storyline where they start dating started a month or two ago.
>>83880526
>Implying Becky won't get Joyce while STILL being with Dina.
>>83880224
Indiana University's semester starts the Monday of the last full week of August. Move-in days are usually several days before classes start. We're looking at it being halfway/three-quarters of the way through September.
>>83880602
Unfortunately they don't just go to school, they're the majority.
>>83880653
>July, 19, 2087
>Dumbing of Age, now published by Willis' kids finally starts the Summer Vacation arc.
>>83880431
thats not actually true
>>83880649
>Becky will drop Dina like a rock in favor of Joyce and it'll be treated as an okay thing to do because Becky.
>>83875510
>Yeah, you tell that kid! He definitely deserved to be yelled at for the sake of humor!
Okay, you don't need to complain about every strip. You're starting to come off as a whiny tumblrite. "This is Age Privilege" or something like that.
>>83880764
They're the majority of people who serve in the student government or write for the campus newspaper. That's visible but it's not the majority. Most students don't give two shits.
>>83880649
>Joyce is left feeling guilty and self-recriminating over her non-monogamous, lesbian relationship while Becky is too happy at the fulfillment of her lifelong desires to notice.
>As Joyce's melancholy reaches its nadir, she finds unexpected comfort and companionship with Dina, who uses her own experiences sorting out her feelings and desires within the context of the loneliness and disconnect of her autism spectrum disorder to help Joyce come to terms with her feelings and upbringing.
>Recognizing that she cannot hope to match the intimacy and connection between Dina and Joyce, Becky quietly excuses herself from the relationship, comforted in the knowledge that the women she loves have found true happiness even if it's not with her.
>>83875510
is she wearing fingerless gloves? like a hobo?
>>83880794
>The years of emotional abuse and torment compel Willis' children to waste their lives away completing his "great work" while sacrificing their own relationships and happiness to tell a story about college freshmen even though college was phased out in 2063 in favor of direct neural downloading.
>>83881026
its a wrist brace
>>83876467
It happens and has happened a lot.
>>83880431
>Ruth/Billie shippers
How can those exist?
That relationship is blatantly toxic, wasn't that the point of it?
>>83881203
don't have much experience with shipping?
>>83881058
>completing his "great work"
doesn't Willis openly admit that DoA is being done purely for the money and the male tears?
>>83880869
Nah.
The Dina fans would riot against Willis for mis-treating a mentally handicapped person.
>>83880905
Horseshoe theory, brah
>>83881303
no it's just money. he's very open about the fact he can write college drama without trying.
>http://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/73591298741/why-shortpacked-is-ending
>And so I thought to myself, okay, what kind of story can I write effortlessly without having to put my nose in the Internet and spend thousands of dollars on toys that should be buying my kid food instead? WELL, COLLEGE, OBVIOUSLY. Take all my characters, reboot them, and just write them forever, because I know I can. It’s my wheelhouse. I can write that on autopilot, blindfolded.
>>83880905
But sarcasm is fun! Check your Humor Privilege.
>>83881203
for billie, yeah, but it works out pretty great for ruth. billies actually done really well getting her to get her shit together, even though the idea was supposed to be a mutually destructive one.
and since the whole thing was billies idea its not easy to see her as a victim here either
people want it to work out
>>83876467
I rejected a gay. But not only because I'n straight, but also because he was a douche and a psycho. He still can't move on. Maybe I'll write a comic book about it.
>>83881203
it can't be toxic, they're lesbians.
>>83881942
They're both bi.
And even so, it's par for the course: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_violence_in_lesbian_relationships
Oh, sorry, was I supposed to do a trigger warning with a kitten?
>>83882219
the name of the article is already a warning, it says exactly whats gonna be in it
congrats, you did it
>>83878462
And nobody called the police after the incident. Motherfucker got away scot-free.
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>>83882637
>>83882656
actually decent strips for a change, congrats on that
Why does Willis hate Mary and religion, again?
His Strawmanning in the past 1-2 weeks was kind of sad, and obsessive.
>>83882767
>Why does Willis hate Mary and religion, again?
His upbringing. Blame his mom.
>>83882767
Combination of self-hate/hate for his mom. This is a married man with twins and he just can't. get. over. the fact that his mom was mean to him.
>>83882219
Don't make Willis ban you! how dare you suggest something like that.
>>83882815
Yeah, and most of it sounds fake or so minor that it's ridiculous.
She made him a cake with Ultra-Car on it. Such a bad mother, caring about her son's characters like that.
>>83882872
every time one of you mentions the cake story you distort it more and more. its virtually unrecognizable now.
>>83882907
Was there more to it? I thought it was just that she made him a cake with Ultra-Car on it and he got all sarcastic about it.
>>83880224
Comics are more about telling stories, not so much exactly mimicking the flow of time.
I mean if you try too hard to make everything fit chronologically ever few years you end up with DC's Clusterfuck of Crises.
Now if you want to complain about the plot, I'll leave you to it.
>>83883014
dont know where you even got ultra-car from honestly.
he ran a super depressing and self-deprecating strip about himself in his school paper. his mom arranged to have that strip put on his cake.
he didnt even blame her for it, just said it was an awful thing to get on his birthday
>>83882872
http://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/133847635397/i-dont-talk-to-my-mom-anymore-whenever-we-had
I mean, it sounds *KINDA* bad, but to spend this much time obsessing about it and devoting two webcomics and several "porn" comics to the purpose of passive-aggressively getting revenge on his mom is a little much.
Seriously, how has no one in his life brought up how obviously arrested his development is and how badly he needs therapy?
>>83880009
>Joe shows up
Oh please and thank you; Joe is starting to become one of the most interesting characters in this comic.
Also the thought of Joyce getting close with the most stereotypically masculine character right in front of Becky is kind of glorious.
>>83883127
>revenge
hes not getting revenge, she doesnt read it. this is all for himself.
cant say i really see the problem with that
>how badly he needs therapy
a therapist would most likely condone this
I'd find it obligatory to repost this for a DoA thread. Who knows, maybe we'll notice a detail or two we missed before?
>>83883027
I agree with your sentiment, but the way the plot works in the amount of time that has occurred... it doesn't coordinate with it very well.
Joyce has become someone completely different in just over a month.
In that time span, Amber's psyche has devolved from being a bit fragile to utterly broken. She went from occasionally putting herself in minor danger by beating people up to escalating to car chases and attacking Sal's group in the parking lot and everything else.
Billie and Ruth's relationship is like a Roman candle. It looks in the long run like it lasted a while, because it took place over the years for readers, but it hardly existed in-universe. And you can say the same for Dorothy and Danny.
Danny's also gotten broken up with twice in 5 weeks.
This isn't to say it's not possible for all of these things to happen, but all of these developments seem a bit forced when you read it together and not a strip a day.
>>83883233
No, this is just plain unhealthy. This has gone on for too long, and I don't think it's making him happy to do so.
>>83883290
Mary is drinking some unholy black liquid.
Ah, yes, what a tragic moment. To think this was only a few months ago, too. It's ridiculous.
>>83883290
She probably got a view of Carla's dick in that second one.
>>83883347
Maybe it's ink for a quill offscreen?
>>83883233
He wrote about Amber's abusive father in Shortpacked!, having him ultimately die offpanel without any "big confrontation" and Amber deciding to move on with her life. It was mature and understated and that seemed to be the end of it.
Then Willis apparently decided that wasn't enough and had Amber face her abusive dad AGAIN in DoA, except now she's literally a fucking superhero punching the hell out of her kidnapping-the-love-interest supervillain father. This, coupled with Ross and Carol as the official "everything my mom ever said was EVIL!" characters, makes it seem like Willis is obsessed with his mom and working himself into more of a rage every time he thinks about her.
So, no, I don't think this is emotionally healthy.
>>83883362
Uh oh! It seems like Carla's planning something!
>>83883314
>No, this is just plain unhealthy
dont really see how
storytelling in therapy is a pretty typical thing
http://blog.oup.com/2014/01/therapeutic-storytelling/
>I don't think it's making him happy to do so
he wouldnt do it if was making him unhappy. why do you think that because hes not laughing while talking about his past? of course hes not. that doesnt mean hes constantly miserable.
what exactly would you recommend, he never talk about it again? what do you think a therapist would tell him?
Wait, Willis is 37? A father no less, and he's still acting this way?
I get that many people have a great deal of psychological fallout/repressed issues that they didn't have the emotional intelligence of maturity to address in their teens(and so they deal with it in their early 20s as they're trying to get their own life/goals in order)---but 37?
He might need a professional's(therapist/psychiatrist) help at one point. That's disconcerting.
Poor Mary is getting a bit of a scare! What will she be able to do in order to prevent humiliation/murder???
>>83883390
>had Amber face her abusive dad AGAIN in DoA
yeah, cause this is... a new story.
>obsessed with his mom and working himself into more of a rage every time he thinks about her
honestly dont know why you think that.
>>83881448
What's weird about this is that he's also openly admitted to first being a hikikomori during college and then getting so hikiotastic that he flunked out.
So really, what the fuck does he know about college? Seriously? Is he saying *his other comic also about college* counts as experience?
Seems like the RA is too hung-over to have agency! Mary just might be in serious danger here!Unless...
>>83883561
his one year of college counts as experience for the only year of doa hes ever going to write
>>83883499
If it was working, then why is he constantly maiming parents in his comics?
His parent characters are getting more and more supervillainous, more strawman-y. They're all hateful bigots that are trapped in a world where people like them are incapable of being 3-dimensional and will always suffer for their beliefs.
I think he needs to talk about it like an adult. He needs to account for his parents being imperfect human beings and to view them from the lens of now being a parent himself.
His parents made choices he didn't like at the time. But were they that bad? And if so, why did his parents make those choices?
Everyone in life has a reason for doing something, and he is refusing to see them as actual human beings. He needs to think about them in real-world terms, not in the terms that he's created for his characters.
>>83883290
What always gets me about these is it genuinely looks as though he's written Carl to be the bad guy and deserving of everything he gets.
And then...
>>83883648
>why is he constantly maiming parents in his comics?
maybe hes just writing a story
>His parent characters are getting more and more supervillainous, more strawman-y.
a bad one
>refusing to see them as actual human beings
he talks about his parents as human beings all the time. his characters arent literally his mom and dad, theyre just influenced by them
Carla's machine has been activated! But just what will be the outcome? Do you really know the whole story!?
>>83883692
>>83883583
Oh, hey, a strip that we missed, probably during the time nobody bothered posting DoA threads.
>misplaced freak
Y'know, that could still be argued as Mary treating Carla as masculine and not necessarily outing them.
>>83883692
Wow. This is some Multiversity shit right here.
>>83884371
Yes, it was about a month in the making.
>>83884492
Congratulations. You've officially made a Morrison out of a Miller.
>>83884632
I don't know what that means, /co/'s not my main board.
>>83884958
Grant Morrison writes complex trippy meta comics and your stuff reminded me of him. It's a compliment.
>>83885026
Thanks, I played nothing but Undertale for 3 months after it came out
>>83882593
I thought that he was beaten to death with a baseball bat.
>>83885157
Beaten, yes. To death, no.
>>83883127
>Whenever we had a difference of opinion, on, like, say, whether homosexuality is basically the same as pedophilia
But it is. Mom was right Willis, you can't help what you're attracted to. You shouldn't give her such a hard time for being a pedo.
>>83875510
So we betting on if Marcus is Ryan's younger brother?
>>83885997
I hope so! It couldn't get more dramatic than Ryan showing up at her church, where she said was the safest place she should think of.
>>83883127
Keep in mind that WIllis is likely an unreliable narrator.
>>83885997
>>83886041
It's amazing how it's been a month in comic time and Willis hasn't had him reappear. It's not like the college campus is the size of Manhattan.
>>83885997
>>83886041
she would have known ryan already if he was a member of her community. i mean she clearly already knows marcus, why would she have just never seen his brother before (especially considering ryan is closer to her age)
>>83886041
The big problem there is that Joyce's hometown, and thus the church, is several hours away from the University.
>>83886175
For drama's sake, I would not be surprised if, whoopsie, Ryan's family decided to move to where Joyce lives, which is where his little cousin Marcus also lives. This also explains why Marcus ignored them--he was running to see his favorite cousin, Ryan.
It's more likely sameface syndrome, but Willis is all about contrived situations that make Joyce's life as miserable as possible.
>>83886117
here's a quick timeline i didn't work very hard on
>attempted rape story line happened in 2011
>rape attempt next brought up a dream sequence in 2012
>next mention was in 2014 during the dick drawing story
>now the attempted rapist (the name is Ryan BTW) appeared in 2 comics this year as a hallucinations
probably not %100 accurate (i just looked at his tag on the site) but that's the basics
>>83886476
and here's the other comic he was in this year
>>83884492
Well worth it man
We'll protect her
>>83880219
With Willis' hateboner for parents, I wouldn't be surprised.
Had a weird dream that guy managed to break into Willis' buffer and started posting stuff, and Willis had a twitter breakdown.
>>83886476
>>83886519
Honestly, that's kind of worse if in real-time he's not a constant presence in Joyce's mind.
Also, in regards to the second strip, does Willis have a thing for/against hands? You have Joyce grabbing her hand here, you have Amber stabbing Sal's hand... what other hand imagery is there in DoA?
Also also, why would Joyce have a fear of Ryan attacking her outside, in public? She should be more afraid of parties or closed gatherings in general. If not that, then at the very least she should be more afraid of being with other males if anything.
Y'know, if Willis were a better writer, he'd make a villainous character out of Becky by having her manipulate Joyce's fear of men in order to get into her pants or something.
>>83886833
>Honestly, that's kind of worse if in real-time he's not a constant presence in Joyce's mind.
Yeah, it hasn't been that long, and she's coping surprisingly well, considering.
>Also, in regards to the second strip, does Willis have a thing for/against hands? You have Joyce grabbing her hand here, you have Amber stabbing Sal's hand... what other hand imagery is there in DoA?
One of his big things when advertising Ruth/Billie Slipshine was a panel of their hands interlocking.
>Also also, why would Joyce have a fear of Ryan attacking her outside, in public? She should be more afraid of parties or closed gatherings in general. If not that, then at the very least she should be more afraid of being with other males if anything.
She's only afraid when it's convenient for the story.
>Y'know, if Willis were a better writer, he'd make a villainous character out of Becky by having her manipulate Joyce's fear of men in order to get into her pants or something.
I would hardcore read that story.
>>83883027
from lurking threads it seems the problem is the writer wants both a slice of life with real time elements to plot AND a sitcom style "It's always ________" setting so /co/ gets mad at the trying to have and eat his cake
>>83886833
>Y'know, if Willis were a better writer, he'd make a villainous character out of Becky by having her manipulate Joyce's fear of men in order to get into her pants or something.
I can totally see this happening but presented as a positive thing.
>>83886587
not every set of parents is bad. dorothy and dinas are nothing but supportive, sierras were nice the one time they appeared, and even joyces dad is alright, all things considered.
like dinas parents, carlas parents have constantly been implied to support her, and hes even said out of comic that theyre great parents whod do anything for her.
>>83886949
>>83886833
I was going to say that doesn't seem far-fetched.
>All those have only hurt you. Why not give me a shot?
>>83886982
It's possible that Carla only *thinks* they don't love her and has to learn that they do in their own way. But that would be too self-aware for Willis.
>>83886949
>presented as a positive thing
why do people think this
even becky just kissing joyce without her consent was stated in comic to be a bad thing, and becky was the one who made the biggest deal out of what a fuck up it was.
its 100% obvious shes not going to do anything to joyce, and if she did she wouldnt be portrayed as a hero while doing it
>>83886982
According to >>83880009, Carla's soon going to be angsting about how her parents don't really love her...despite the absurd amount of money, tech, and support for her transition they've given her so far.
>>83887056
this is exactly the thing im already talking about, thanks for your input
>>83887053
It'd be like Becky is "saving her from men" by turning her over to lesbianism, and this would be treated heroically by both Willis and his comment section.
I'm seriousm I would honestly be completely surprised if Joyce is still straight by the end of the comic's run.
>>83887156
i think you should take a break from reading this comic
>>83887053
Becky only felt like she screwed up because Joyce didn't feel the same. I never saw any indication of her feeling like she violated Joyce.
>>83886833
>Also, in regards to the second strip, does Willis have a thing for/against hands?
in-comic Joyce grabs her hand because she cut herself when she smashed her glass against Ryan's face. as for the out-comic reason... i'm going to do something that's never before on 4chan and talk out of my ass here but i guess it's because Willis is an artist (of sorts) and, unless your name is Jeph Jacques, having something bad happened to your hands is pretty terrifying for that particular profession
>>83886833
>>83886906
Joyce is experiencing acute stress reaction. She's not afraid to be outside, being alone while in the presence of strangers triggers a fight or flight response.
>>83887294
>>83887401
That's fair. I forgot about that. I can't believe that was over a year ago.
>>83887188
Yeah, probably.
>>83887401
I wouldn't be bothered by the black dots on their faces if he actually lined them up with the curve he uses to denote the nasal bridge.
>>83884237
Whoa.
>>83885157
If he didn't die of a brain hemorrhage after the beating off-screen, then he is still alive and free. I wonder if he would still have bruising or bandages if he appears at the church.
>>83886519
Did Joyce have a stroke in that last panel?
>>83888407
He'd have fresh scarring on his face from the glass and maybe a chunk of hair missing if they needed to suture the back of his head. Anything worse and he'd probably still be in the hospital.
>>83880224
>>83890326
AND BECKY!
>>83890326
I'm pretty sure at this point Willis is just mocking us.
>>83890326
>and becky
>and becky
>and becky
>and becky
>and becky
>>83890326
If Willis had any self awareness, I'd swear this is almost self parody.
Ground Squirrels man, fuckin' hell.
>>83880224
theres been timeskips before; usually tiny ones, but once he skipped like 4 days. so if he needs time to advance, or nothing happens for a while, it could go faster.
>>83890527
I hope that turns out to be Joyce and Becky talking about Pastor Powers
>>83890527
And the exception to Willis' tendency to make fathers assholes begins to stir once more...
>>83890527
>haircut
>shoving her identity in peoples faces
also
>joyces dad suddenly having a problem with this kind of speech
>>83890527
Is this the patreon strip?Also hilariously, they're actually being reasonable! Can't wait for a meltdown because they're 'evil'.
>>83890527
To be fair, sidecuts are fucking awful and are usually a representation of the person trying to shove their personality in your face.
>>83890669
>the one time becky doesnt mention her sexuality
>"having a haircut is shoving her identity in our faces"
>reasonable
its great that they feel sorry for her and dont at all condone her dads actions though, i assumed they would
>>83890527
Becky? Shoving her sexuality into peoples' faces? How dare you say that.Sidecuts are ugly too. Door people are right about everything
Is the first panel a dig against conservatives and guns? Does Willis think guns are reasonable pest control?
>>83890669
>They're being reasonable.
...No? They're being assholes. How fuckin' sensitive do you have to be that a haircut is "Shoving it in our faces" ?
>>83890776
It's a really shitty haircut, anon, I don't blame them
>>83890527
>She keeps screaming "AND BECKY" at everyone she sees. Nobody needs that much of someone's obnoxious identity shoved in their face every 10 seconds.
>>83890326
Shit strip
>>83890527
But my jimmies are rustled now fuck
Why are most Christians in this fucking comic awful? Fucking Willis.
>>83890527
its also pretty hypocritical that theyre saying church shouldnt be about politics but theyre the only ones talking about it. all beckys done is say hi.
>keep it to yourself
whats she supposed to do, wear a wig?
...actually im surprised joyces mom didnt make her wear a hat. or is that rude in churches or something
>>83890804
Joyce's mom has a straight up butch haircut.
>>83890774
To be fair, her parents live in a suburb. He'd probably get in trouble for discharging a firearm.
>>83890776
Where do you think you are? People here get triggered over anhthing and everything.
>>83891056
No, women wearing hats indoors isn't considered a violation of manners. Though hats in church are usually more of a black woman and rich Brit thing.
>>83890527
>She used to be so beautiful
Funny, Becky's design is horrendous, even before the haircut. Her face always looks like it's about to peel off her head and that stupid grin makes her look like Donkey Kong
>>83890883
I think women are allowed to wear hats indoors everywhere. It was considered rude for men to wear hats in any indoor setting, but most people don't care anymore. Church probably still applies but people probably won't bother pointing it out.
>>83891064
Yeah, but it's an acceptable haircut.
>>83891181
I thought she was cute, but new haircut and "look I'm a lesbian" ruined her
>>83891056
>...actually im surprised joyces mom didnt make her wear a hat. or is that rude in churches or something
for women? no unless it's a baseball cap or something
>>83891219
I remember all of the public schools I went to had very strict no hats indoors policies. They probably evolved from that tradition of men taking off hats indoors but were then applied to girls as well just to make things easier and more equal instead of applying the rule to just one gender and coming off uneven. And now we have today when I keep seeing people bitch about how dress codes are misogynist and designed only to shame women's bodies.
>>83891181
My only complaint about Becky's current haircut is that one of her black, beady eyes and a freckle show through it.
>>83890527
Looks like it's going the "Becky storms the podium" route after all.
>>83890326
Why can't Becky die? Just drop dead?
>>83891618
>wishing ill on the most popular and beloved character in all of webcomicdom
oh u
>>83890527
Normally it would be kinda shitty to complain about someone's haircut as them shoving their identity in people's faces. But uh, Becky *does* shove her identity in people's faces and in her case the haircut is definitely part of that.
Like if you were to say, "Becky, it feels like your haircut is your way of letting everyone know you're a lesbian without you having to say so" she'd respond "Oh, it's working then, I'm glad! And also a lesbian!" Which is totally fine and cool*, but she's also created a visual indicator for bigots to latch onto.
*Kinda? A lot of the time it feels like she's doing what a lesbian should do, instead of it feeling like the things she's innately comfortable with read as lesbian.The strip where she talks about not liking the dress and getting super glue in her hair so she could cut it shorter is the first one where you get a sense of her having preferences that match up with a certain stereotype instead of her working towards a stereotype. A lot of that is because Willis sucks at writing, and although Becky's been in the comic a bunch, she's usually goofin'.
>>83890326
The pastors not referring to Becky (especially when she's the one initiating the greetings) bugs me more than the bigotry (mostly because I saw the congregation being bigots a mile away). It's a shitty thing to do. It also places their distaste for her identity so far ahead of any actual care they have for her, similar to how John's worry that Joyce is angrier replaced any concern for her well-being or safety.
>>83891456
My school was super autistic about hats due to skin cancer in Australia. No hats during assembly or hymn practice or any sort of meeting, but you had to wear a hat at all times if you were going out in the sun.
We could use those rules to our advantage though. If you didn't feel like doing PE all you had to do was stuff your hat under your shirt and the teacher had no choice but to let you sit in the shade the whole lesson.
>>83891733
>Becky *does* shove her identity in people's faces
but they dont know that, so this is stupid
>>83890326
And Becky!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZSFvntwgEQ
>>83891802
>And Becky!
>And Becky!
>>83876467
>Well how often do gay stories end with the gay getting rejected instead of converting the previously straight?
Too often. The reverse only happened in Goldfinger.
>>83891881
>not wanting people you know to blatantly ignore you
>shoving your identity in their face
>>83876277
God what a presumptuous bitch.
No, she does not HAVE to feel the same way.
>>83891962
>converting the straight.
This would acknowledge fluid sexuality and gay agenda must convince you that you're born a certain way and thats it.
>>83892026
wow some of you are REALLY bad at not letting blind hatred cloud your judgement
>>83892022
Ah, ya got me there. I was mostly joking around anyway.
>>83892033
I read that wrong. Thought the anon had said that "gay person converts straight person" hasn't happened a lot.
It happens way too fucking much. I absolutely can't stand it.
>>83892112
Becky's obsession with Joyce isn't and will never be healthy.
so the sermon is totally gonna be about gays right? is there any avoiding it?
& way to play into his hands by rolling with the judgement via hair thing
>>83892026
I think it's more of a "glass shattering" moment for her. She'd built it up in her head so much that the truth seemed completely false for a moment there. It's a "grasping at straws" moment, where she's trying desperately to hold onto what she wants to believe.
I mean, she's definitely still presumptuous and generally a terrible person, but yeah.
>>83892508
i dont think it will, everyone there seems really uncomfortable about that
its just gonna be really shitty and awkward
>>83875510
imagine a comic about two girls who are nice and pleasant and laugh happily at the exuberance of a small child
>>83892589
that sounds weird and unrealistic
>>83892546
Maybe I'm heartless because I see this shit a lot. But I hate the thought that just because you're gay that it means people are inherently more sympathetic.
Imagine if this was just some friendzoned dude in Joyce's life saying all this stuff. Nobody would feel and pity and he'd be just a creep.
So I give Becky the same treatment.
>>83892836
>just because you're gay that it means people are inherently more sympathetic
thats not even remotely what thats about
>Nobody would feel and pity and he'd be just a creep
that happens all the time in romance stories and people usually do feel sympathy for him actually
>>83892976
People in comments were really rough on Danny for doing the exact same thing to Dorothy.
>>83893040
he didnt do the exact same thing to dorothy
also people hated danny because he was a douchebag in roomies, not because hes a guy
>>83893095
>Becky
>not a douchebag
>>83893162
not at the time this happened, no
>>83893162
>>83893198
but also thats literally what im talking about, with blind hatred clouding your judgement. the people talking shit about danny every time he opened his mouth were just as stupid and obnoxious as i think you are
>>83892836
>friendzoned
That term is misogynistic. Please remove it from your vocabulary at once, or we'll need to send you in for reeducation. :^)
>>83893382
i think its pretty funny that he used that term actually considering its a crystal clear example that most people do, actually, consider that kind of guy sympathetic
>>83893568
Only when they identify with him. I maintain that if Becky were a guy people wouldn't have nearly as much sympathy.
>>83893256
What is my blind hatred clouding in my judgement? Tell me.
>>83891618
http://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/133911326532/the-storylines-over-and-now-that-it-is-i-wanted
Becky is immortal.
>>83893568
>most people do, actually, consider that kind of guy sympathetic
[citation needed]
In general, women don't. But then you don't think women are people, do you, misogynist?
>>83890983
>in this comic
>>83890326
>>83890527
Here we go. Buckle up, boys.
>>83893654
>Only when they identify with him. I maintain that if Becky were a guy people wouldn't have nearly as much sympathy.
and i maintain that youre stupid and this is easily observably not true
and i dont know if youre aware of this but most people can identify with someone having a crush
>What is my blind hatred clouding in my judgement? Tell me.
literally been talking about it the entire time
>In general, women don't.
only if theyve got experience with assholes and are being reminded of that. but theres still a difference between someone wanting their crush to like them and breaking down when they dont vs someone demanding their crush like them and getting ceepy/violent when they dont
>you don't think women are people, do you
women arent real
>>83892836
That wasn't quite my point. I don't think it makes her more sympathetic--it's more the shaking and the crying and her reassessing her beliefs.
What I hate is how Willis reacts to his own comic--below the strip, he's all "oh please stop crying; I'll do whatever it takes." It's honestly a bit disgusting, especially after what he said about the Toedad arc later on. Like, for one thing, you're the one who put her in that situation: you're the freakin' author!
And if it were a guy, like you said, Willis would be condemning him for those exact same moments.
>>83893689
Becky is being protected by her god, Willis. He's perpetuating the exact thing he claims does not exist in her world.
>>83894277
>you're the one who put her in that situation: you're the freakin' author!
as an author who also does this i just wanna chime in that its usually facetious. obviously he could have just written her happy if its what he actually wanted
>>83894397
I'm also an author, but I don't know; I just find that kind of attitude off-putting. But I'm not afraid to torture my darlings, because I know whatever happens is what direction the narrative needs to take.
I'm ridiculously sensitive in real life, but when I'm writing, I'm downright ....... I want to say "ruthless," but this is not the thread to use that word.
The more my characters suffer, the better my writing is. That probably makes me a little bit terrible, but I guess that's fine.
>>83894273
>someone demanding their crush like them and getting ceepy/violent when they dont
Except Becky has been creepy about it.
>>83893689
This is another thing Something Positive has over this: Randy's not afraid to call out his LBGTQ characters when they're being obnoxious or creeps. T-Bob's had to be reminded that he's not nearly as quirky and cute as he thinks he is.
>>83890527
It's-a Happening...
>>83894774
Didn't this guy play Lurch in Addams Family?
>>83894619
sure, in your opinion, obviously not in joyces
and all of those incidents happened long after the scene in question so they dont apply at all
>>83894992
You do realize that time is incredibly slow in DoA, right? They happened within like, days. Becky's only been here a week or two.
>>83894537
>That probably makes me a little bit terrible
nah. theyre not real, theres nothing wrong with that.
obviously its important for the readers to see them as people instead of characters, but as the author that kind of thinking is limiting. usually hurting them is actually the right thing for the story.
>>83894854
And Lwaxana Troi's bodyguard, it looks like.
>>83895039
okay so "long" is variable, but "after" isnt. beckys behavior in that scene was just to break down crying, apparently heartbroken, and then run out. thats usually considered unambiguously sympathetic, and not really comparable to someone getting mad or threatening someone when they get rejected.
pretty sure people would have been just as sympathetic if shed been a guy.
you can still think its creepy and gross for her to make jokes about her feelings after the fact, but applying them retroactively to the confession is stupid and shows a bias pretty clearly.
>>83891181
I guess you could say she doesn't expand the dong
>>83890527
I feel like, more and more, Willis writes shit certain ways specifically to spite people who critique his stuff.
He's referred to Becky's haircut multiple times recently in a manner which almost directly mocks people who either didn't like it, or thought Becky was foolish for spending money on it.
>>83893689
I really hate how he writes as though his characters are real, and have real needs. He doesn't have a story he wants to tell, he just wants to have a wank over his views on religion. This comic is just wishful thinking.
>>83894309
It's really odd, isn't it, that he doesn't just write them with happy endings, he openly acknowledges he bends reality for his characters. I'm sure he doesn't see the contradiction.
