https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%81ui_(Hawaiian_mythology)
>>83852432
so he's basically Polynesian hercules
>>83852432
>We want the "Bear lover" audience
superior Disney Maui
OOGA BOOGA WHERE DA WHALE AT
Saw a trailer for it last night. Dwayne fucking Johnson. I'll probably see it. I still have no idea what it's about, though. Just that he's a demi-god who hangs out with a chick and a piggy.
He may be a demi god voiced by Dwayne Johnson, but is he THE guy?
>>83852432
Why are all the women named Hina? Shit's confusing.
I want to slap his belly
>>83852469
Polynesians do tend to be pretty hefty, it'd be odd if he was ripped. Honestly Moana could be a bit thicc'r as well considering all the SPAM she probably eats.
>>83852533
Cold Shadow a boss
>In before BWAAA! Muh cultural appropriation
You know It's coming
>>83852432
I know this says nothing about the writing or the storytelling, but...look at that hair and those toenails. They look GOOD. I'm impressed.
>>83852957
Ah yes, the native Polynesian canned mean, SPAM, eaten for thousands of years.
>>83853001
actually the fact that they're having actual Polynesians as VAs (Moana's VA is Hawaiian, Dwayne Johnson is half Black half Samoan) satisfies some of those types
>>83853001
I hear a lot more bitching about the fact that she is brown from white people.
There were no pigs or chickens in Polynesia before Europeans arrived.
>>83853017
Arguably too good. Dude's a 3/4ths naked barbarian demigod, where does he get his manicures?
>>83853001
It's a movie about brown people played by brown people. Maybe if Maui was Jack Black there's be something to whine about.
>>83853017
We'll see how they look in a few years. CG movies age like milk.
>>83852468
Most civilizations have myths of a guy, somehow connected to the gods (either by being one, or being descended, or blessed by one), doing all sorts of crazy feats.
>>83853067
Then why are there pigs and chickens in the trailer?
Checkmate, athiests.
>>83853079
He's magic. He can conjure a manicure.
>>83853067
Are you saying that Polynesians wouldn't have been able to raise farm animals on their own?
That sounds pretty racist dude.
>>83853034
And it was co-written by Taika Waititi, who is Maori.
>>83853034
I did see an idiot complain about the Rock but it was one guy
>>83852870
>I'm not a good Demi-god
>I'm not a bad Demi-god
>I'm THE Demi-god
>>83852432
Why does he ware a skirt made form leafs, when the other characters we've seen wares weaved cloths? Is he supposed to be from "the times long gone" or something like that?
>>83853001
Who fucking gives a shit what american leftists whine about?
Those fags bitched about Frozen for that reindeer guy being "white washed" because according to them, the Sami people look like fucking inuits (because all people who live in the north look like eskimos apparently), when the actual Sami people look like this.
t.a Finn. Sami people actually live here.
>>83853201
He's described as once-powerful and given Moana's reaction it seems he's been forgotten.
>>83853329
AH okay, just wanted to be sure, since it looked out of place.
>>83853134
I'm pissed the rock has sold himself out to every other movie thats been released in the past 5 years, THIS role was made for him but seriously its hard for me to be "oh cool the rocks playing him" when the rock is literally in everything else i see being advertised. he's going for all time sell out king i swear.
>>83853393
Poor poor Fraser
>>83853393
I was very mildly annoyed they felt the need to toss out an eyebrow after announcing him in the trailer. Other than that I don't give a fuck about any of his roles other than this and Black Adam, I'm not much of a moviegoer.
>>83853082
CG has been stable since 2010. Good CGI is just very expensive If you spent less than $100 million on a movie it's going to look like ass.
>>83853393
Try fifteen. Rock isn't one to turn down paid work.
>>83853067
Studies suggest that pigs were slowly introduced by traders and settlers from central and south eastern asia, specifically korea and taiwan
>>83853527
Can't fault the man's work ethic
>>83853034
Wait until the merchandise is released and little white kids start dressing like Moana and Maui.
Here's the French poster for Moana. Looks like we got the giant crab, LMM mentioned writing a song for, chasing three people. Maui falling from the sky and into the sea, maybe, on the left? A shark, the sun, and Moana sailing away from her home.
>>83852432
>>83853067
Hawaiifag here. I don't know about the chickens, but Polynesians did have pigs:the Polynesian hog was smaller and hairier than the pigs that Europeans domesticated. Polynesians took them acros the Pacific with them, though they weren't a major foodstuff: in ancient Hawaii, at least, hogs were consumed only in large family gatherings or on special occasions.
>>83854743
Chickens originate from asia, so polynesians could have had access to them.
>>83852957
They should just reuse the designs from Lilo and Stitch.
>>83853232
I remember that. Twas so stupid. By Sami standards I'm practically Ethiopian, and I'm as white as they come.
>>83853082
hmmm NAH. Finding Nemo still looks great. Shark Tale on the other hand looks like ass. But here's the thing. It ALWAYS looked like ass.
guys
can we just talk about how Moana looked hot as fuck in the trailer?
>>83852791
Just saw the teaser trailer as well. I'm really liking it, especially the sea scenes. The sea scenes are shaping up to look really good, but I'm still wary with the plot.
>>83853393
Work is work, anon. I don't really see it as selling out.
>>83853001
Doubt it. Probably going to be a lot of bitching about how it's another Disney movie that doesn't star white people.
>>83854922
They did, one of the main supports for New world Polynesian contact was the presence of asian jungle fowl in South America and the presence of sweet potato throughout Polynesia and some parts of Asia.
>>83854546
Here's the HR version that you meant to post Anon.
Was I the only one who assumed the big person on the right in the promo art was going to be some butch lesbian?
>>83857422
I don't know anon. There's a lot of stupid people in the world.
![pele1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Uw7bRL7.jpg "pele1[1].jpg")
>yfe Pele is the big bad
Nobody is going to watch a movie about brown people.
>>83857527
Nah, Disney likes doing twist villains now. Moana will be the villain.
>>83857545
But people will watch a movie with The Rock in it.
>>83856208
More like
More likeyou thought I was gonna say "Moan-ana" and well you're right.
>>83857527
Waifu material
>the second Hawaiian movie Disney has done, and still not a single Mexican one
Don't tell me Emperor's New Groove really had anything to do with the Inca aside from an excuse to use Llamas and a "god-king" setup.
>>83857759
>mexican drug war with a disney twist featuring speedy gonzalez
I'd watch the fuck out of that
>>83853001
The ONLY people I've seen complain so far are white people.
Actually ran into one who was going on a full rant about cultural appropriation, and the 350 pound samoan dude next to me stood up, looked her in the eye, and started yelling at her for two minutes straight in his native language.
She was in complete tears saying she had no idea what he was saying, and he said "why do you think you can speak for my people then?"
Later, he told me he just said the navy seals copypasta and the theme to Danger mouse.
>>83857917
>350 pound samoan dude
you don't really need to specify the weight. That's implied with the word "samoan". I've never met a kefe who wasn't either buff as fuck, fat as fuck, or a combination of the two.
Moana looks like my mom who I havent seen since she was 30
>>83857917
>he told me he just said the navy seals copypasta and the theme to Danger mouse.
That's hillarious
>>83852533
Is he a STAND?
>>83852891
>Why are all the women named Hina?
Because they all have vaHinas.
>>83854527
That;s a furious looking sun.
Is there going to be any Enchanted Tiki Room references?
>>83858955
Well you'd be pissed off too if some fat guy dug a hook straight through your anus.
>>83852432
This would be the one that died trying climb headfirst into the death goddess' pussy and got decapitated when she clenched? Or is that just the Maori version of Maui?
>>83857759
What, not satisfied with Road to El Dorado?Yes I know it's Disney.
Maui eats white people.
>>83852432
His tattooos don't look polynesian.
>>83857759
No offense to any Mexicans but a movie about the Spanish kingdom in Mexico doesn't seem as fascinating as the Aztec,Inca,Mayan,etc culture. I doubt Disney could come up with a movie like that without a book or folk story to derive it from.
>>83852432
>>83857759
Then make your own?
>>83859748
so is he like dead now cuz he cut his own throat with that barb thing or what
>>83859996
Demigods dont give a fuck.
>>83857217
This one is missing the loss edit tho
>>83857656
Doesn't she have teeth in her vagina?
Is there porn of this guy yet?
>Moana looks like brown Rapunzel
For fuck's sake, Disney.
>>83858973
Would not surprise me if there are. I mean, Musker and Clements threw Haunted Mansion jokes into Hercules and Princess and the Frog and you could argue Facilier's voodoo shop had a Tiki Room vibe too.
>>83857917
BASED
>>83856208
NO! It's too early. She can't be mai waifu yet, it's too early!
>>83859748
When is someone going to add the word "BAIT" at the end of that?
>>83854546
I'm at a loss for words.
>>83857917
>he told me he just said the navy seals copypasta and the theme to Danger mouse.
You gave it away but I still kek'd.
>>83859722
Something Day of the Dead related would have worked, but The Book of Life kind of already did it.
The tie-in game is pretty good.
>>83862123
>>83859722
Pixar's doing a Day of the Dead movie called Coco that comes out next year
>>83852432
I'm so exited for this movie. It looks great.
This is how you do interesting stories with non-white characters. Exotic mythology or original stories instead of taking white characters and making them black.
>>83861902
This needs to be done.
>>83852533
I remember this thing!
>>83861237
Eh. I'd say she looks different enough.
Maui looks a fucking LOT like Wreck it Ralph, though.
>>83858493
I wanna hear what they sound like.
>>83852957
You honestly expect Disney to change from their status quo that quickly? "Thicc" women might be your fetish, but the little girls who will buy the toys won't want a fat doll.
>>83861237
brown rapunzel with some polynesian racial features (different nose, subtly different eyes)
>>83852908
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpDTQuSP80s
>>83854743
>that one tale of a pig demigod escaping pursuit by expanding his corkscrew dick up a cliff
>>83857917
and then everyone started standing up and clapping
>>83863189
I should get him to soundcloud it. Just for the Samoan version of the navy seals copypasta.
It was really slow and rythmic, like the chant that goes with the Hakka, except with less slapping and posing, but with the tongue thing. Except the dude has a high, soft, mike tyson sort of voice.
>>83863712
Nah. Some white knight freaked beta orbiter completely out, and it eventually went to some sort of college adjudication thing. I don't know the details, but nobody seemed to get in trouble or anything.
>>83852957
>>83853024
Their women are pretty big and strong.
>With respect to their persons the Men in general are tall, strong-limb'd, and well shaped. One of the tallest we saw measured 6 feet 3 inches and a half. The superior women are in every respect as large as Europeans (...)
I remember a guy telling how he was afraid of a maori woman who had a crush on him. "She was twice my size and 3 times stronger, I would certainly die!"
>>83863570
You mean Kamapua'a? Pele's on-again-off-again boyfriend? He kind of represents primal sexuality in a way: a lot of the Hawaiian myths about him are about him chasing various women/goddesses/mythological creatures.
>>83853110
actually that's exactly what he's saying
domesticated animals such as pigs, cows, etc, that's from europe and asia. Africa and the americas and oceana had nothing like that, they hunted for food, they didn't keep it.
domesticating animals is what allowed europe's population to balloon, and for huge cities to develop as well, and for tremendous diseases to kill people but make the people immune who survived. The average european's immune system was far beyond that of other countries and that's why they brought diseases to wherever they conquered. Horses were introduced to africa via the europeans, there's a bunch of examples
so yeah, oceana and the americas did not keep domesticated animals.
>>83860522
>Cock biting isn't one of my fetish
Good try, anon.
![d55d071ec2312fd06c0450e3e8a313fe[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yy3Tknh.jpg "d55d071ec2312fd06c0450e3e8a313fe[1].jpg")
>>83859489
yes they do
>>83854743
Chinese claim that the sweet potato comes from China because current Chinese can't imagine living without it. That doesn't make it true though.
Do you have a source on hogs being present in the middle of the Pacific Ocean before Europeans arrived? I'm skeptical because Polynesians reached South America, but South America was woefully short of domesticable animals like the hog.
>>83864296
Nothing I can list off the top of my head. I'm quoting my Hawaiian Studies professor from college. I can tell you that the hogs that were here before Western contact interbred with their imported Western cousins to become a wild and invasive variant species: my father used to work for the National Park service in Kalaupapa, Molokai and they would have to periodically hunt down and winnow the wild populations of these critters.
>>83864249
Zyzz?
>>83854527
Is that the Finding Nemo shark?
>>83852432
It's like the Jews suddenly want everyone to know everything about Hawaii lore.
>>83864416
The fact that they have the effect of an invasive species kind of adds credence to the theory that they weren't present until Europeans came.
>>83863948
And THEN everyone started standing up and clapping
>>83864921
Is this necessarily a bad thing?
>>83864296
Not all of the islands had pigs. But we're talking about 3 thousand years ago for the earlier introductions.
https://scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu/bitstream/10125/17280/1/AP-v47n1-59-74.pdf
>>83865055
I miss one day of 4chan, and I'm out of the loop on dank memes.
>>83864199
>so yeah, oceana and the americas did not keep domesticated animals.
Well it makes sense too considering that island ecosystems couldn't support large herd animals that are easy to domesticate in the first place.
>>83854546
god I love this meme
>>83864996
http://www.pnas.org/content/103/46/17190/F3.expansion.html
>>83857917
Previously on things that never happened Z.
>>83852432
he's a pretty big demigod
>>83864996
The wild pig population I'm talking about is a different breed from the Western wild pig--they interbred with a Polynesian pig population that can be found throughout the Pacific. If you really wanna get technical about it, there have been mitochondrial DNA studies that trace the origins of this Polynesian pig back to SE Asia.http://www.pnas.org/content/107/17/7686.full?sid=e27a8306-1d5f-4c9d-8408-2bc51821ae63
There are other cultural clues: myths of the pig god Kamapua'a (I mentioned him here >>83864118) that predate Western contact; the ancient Hawaiian method of cooking a pig, that again predates Western contact (an earthen oven called an imu), etc.
>>83864921
I've fine with that. I've been into Polynesian culture since Lilo and Stitch
![75c9c430-aa7f-0133-b344-0e438b3b98d1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/HhTgE29.jpg "75c9c430-aa7f-0133-b344-0e438b3b98d1[1].jpg")
>>83865427
Dude, there's no shame in not getting it. Just try to keep up, will you?
>>83865543
I am digging the color palette of this movie. It reminds me of Wind Waker in good ways. All those tropical shades and hues.
>>83865634
For as terrible as FFX was in some respects, I fucking loved the southeast Asia/Polynesian style that it used in a lot of place.
>>83864199
There's a Hawaiian myth about Kamapua'a (a pig Demi-God) stealing domesticated chickens from Olopana.
So yeah, chickens and pigs were present pre-contact.
>>83859748
CUTE
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>>83854527
>Maui falling from the sky and into the sea, maybe, on the left?
Guess he gets cast out from among the "true" gods for being a dick or whatnot and he has to prove he's worth coming back. I get the feeling I heard that story before.
>>83859896
>Telling people to make their own media if they don't like the media available
B-but that means I can't complain!
>>83853001
Literally everyone gives less of a shit about hawian culture than Native Americans and even slaves.
>>83857759
What about Emperors new groove?
fuckkkkkkk this is leading to /Moana/. It will flop and won't reach Frozen or Zootopia levels.
>>83853082
Dunno, man, I still get impressed with Merida's curls
>>83869690
Didn't people here had the same thought when the Zootopia teaser came out?
>>83861902
>>83862519
How should it be done? I might get to it.
>>83857759
>>the second Hawaiian movie Disney has done, and still not a single Mexican one
Does the Three Caballero not count?
>>83862172
>Toa
We Bionicle now?
>>83871729
Bionicle was based on Polynesian mythology.
>>83863712
The name of that Samoan? Albert Einstein.
>>83860522
VAGINA DENTATAAAAAAA
>>83856208
>DISNEY DOES IT AGAIN QUALITY WAIFUS FOURTH MOVIE IN A ROW
>>83870210
His face right at the end turns into the fish head with the word "BAIT" under it.
>>83856208
I wanna talk about the way all the fabric hangs off her so realistically. From the neck down it almost looks photo-realistic! God I love how far CG has come.
>>83857527
Pele's not evil - just a bad mofo on the soccer field!
>>83857759
Keep building that wall, Paco.
>>83872786
I had no idea who Pele was until last E3
And I still don't really know.
>>83869031
I know you have.
>>83853393
>he's going for all time sell out king i swear.
By Gawd!
>>83856208
Moana is goin to be FUCKING USELESS! WHAT A FUCKING KEK OUT
>>83870314
They have one due out this fall. Some day of the dead thing.
>>83857545
>force awakens gained over $1bil
>black and latino leads
see you in a few months when moana makes over $1bil
>>83873130
Main character of Force Awakens was a white girl though
>>83853393
>>83872969
Better than Hogan, who's been no selling everything for the past 30 years.
They showed a few clips from Moana at the Annecy festival. http://disneyanimationmoana.tumblr.com/post/146101025219/moana-clips-shown-at-annecyThe opening scene of the movie. After the appearance of the traditional Disney logo with Maori background music, a narrator explains the history of the world, presented in a graphic animation style similar to the one in the trailer. We later see Maui (in regular, CG animation this time) turning into a bird, a reptile and an insect before finally stealing the “heart” of the island and fleeing. While fighting a fire demon, he lets the “heart” sink to the bottom of the ocean and darkness engulfs the surrounding land. On this sad image, the narrator is revealed - an old lady telling this story to children.The second extract showed Moana’s grandmother brings her to a cave when she was a child. By tapping on a drum, Moana receives a vision of the past where happy navigators are singing while arriving on the island.In the third clip, Moana tries to rescue Hei Hei from the Kakamora tribe (a Minion-like tribe of coconut pirates). There’s an epic scene between two boats where our friend is trying to climb one of his opponents before attacking them described by the filmmakers as “Disney meets Fury Road,”.In the last clip, we see Moana as a child playing in the sand. The she picks up a seashell and the water parts, creating a giant wave. Then we transition to Moana as an adult remembering her childhood.
>>83864199
>the americas did not keep domesticated animals
dogs, llamas
>>83857545
Its got Dwayne Rock the Johnson in it. I'm going to see it
>>83857917
I wish this happened.
>>83873782best movie 2k16 here we come
>Hawaiian movie
>No spam
dropped
>>83873782
>Minion-like
![tumblr_ntxu6f82QD1u7xbrmo1_r2_1280[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/HZumY2E.jpg "tumblr_ntxu6f82QD1u7xbrmo1_r2_1280[1].jpg")
>>83874193
But Disney meets Fury Road
>>83864199
>muh jared diamond
Stop, just stop. Domestication is definetely NOT what allowed populations to bloom they had massive cities in the Americas particularly in the Mississippian cultures and central/southern American cultures. And finally, eastern and European cities did not get big off eating lots of pork and chicken, they got huge because they had a steady and reliable supply of FUCKING GRAINS. Romans eat absolutely massive amounts of wheat and bread, Chinese and south east asians ate shitalods of rice (and wheat/barely etc in northern china). Furthermore, the population boom in 13th century europe is usually more associated with a greater consumptiom of nutrious plant matter (like beans in particular which had good amounts of iron). Rather than them somehow managing to eat lots and lots of meat.
>>83852432
>Trailer shows People's eyebrow
if he does a Rock Bottom, it would be perfect.
>>83857759
Mexico is fucking boring dude.
>>83864900
I would not be suprised if fish from finding nemo make brief cameos. Pixair used to do it all the time, sneaking assets from previous films into scenes.
>>83864199
>Africa and the americas and oceana had nothing like that
Have you fucking seen Animal Planet? How is a zebra not a goddamn horse? Or a hyena like a wolf?
>>83874441
Zebra is more aggresive than the wild horse. People have attempted to simply tame them and it's extremely difficult.
I bet the bad guy is a shoobie trying to commercialize the island.
>>83864199
America and Oceania, yeah, for the MOST part true, but Africa? Fuck off. They had plenty of domestication in Africa, look at the maasai.
>>83874503
Isn't there a distinction between taming and domestication?
>>83856208
>bare shoulders
HNNNGG
>>83875183
Oh yes. In the most simplistic and reductionist terms I can think of, a circus lion is "tame" your pet dog is "domesticated". Domestication is somethng genetic, developed over years by careful breeding. Taming is just taught behavior..
>>83874292
This is true
>>83852432
I'm pretty excited for this movie, especially considering the focus will be on a Demigod's wife instead of him. Hopefully it'll be better then just a Hercules clone, but who knows. Plus, I could always use more non-standard mythology.
>>83875237
Fun fact: No one was ever able to domesticate elephants or breed them, despite being regularly used as beasts of burden and war for millennia. Every elephant used for such purposes was captured in the wild.
>>83875320
Wikipedia actually has a big list of animals that are domesticated and animals that are tamed
>mfw tame draft-moose
Moana looks like a darker skinned version of Rapunzel and I have no problem with that
>>83857217
I take it she's the sane one and he's the crazy one? 'Cuz I'm getting a serious "good cop, bad cop" vibe from these two.
Imagine if there weren't any fucking stupid animal sidekicks.
>>83875320
One of these days I'll learn about war and conflicts in antiquity and pre-1000 AD. But for now, all I do is post this and say Hannibal was a genius
>>83875379
Did you see that brief flash of bloodlust when she's jumping towards the camera? She's only relatively sane.
>>83857759
Do you really think Disney is going to show human sacrifice in an animated movie? Cause that shit would be top if they did
>>83859383
dem long pigs, brah
>>83853036
This. It's like you can't have a brown character without someone crying "tumblr bait".
>>83853393
Did you see him as a Street Sharks salesman? He's been selling out in hilarious ways since the start.
Will they reference the Easter island heads?
>>83874313
Correct, but brats of burden allowed a much smaller proportion of the citizenry to produce good for everyone. That meant Afro-Eurasia had more specialists.
But yeah, Amerindians were super productive. The capital of the Aztecs, Tenochticlan, had a larger population than London.
>>83876185
*beasts
>>83857759
Well... what do you want? The main thing Olmec-derived civilizations are famous for is not kid-friendly or good for PR. How could they make an "authentic" story and ignore that? I guess they could do something with the ball game.
>>83875738
Showing cannibalism among Pacific Islanders.
>>83875738
People didn't get upset when Dreamworks addressed it in Road to El Dorado.
>>83857759
>>83859722
Why do people keep associating the Incas with Mexico?
>>83873696
With the windfall he just got Hulkamania still running wild where it needs to be.
>>83877623
Because of fuckheaded chicano MECHA activists who campaign for brown and proud solidarity, and freely mix aztec, mayan and incan shit in their propaganda.
>>83874292
>>83875255
Oh dammit. It its Fury Road.
>>83877623
Because Mayan, Aztec and Incan civilizations all rook same.
>>83877715
That bunch of La Raza morons. Do people still listen to that pile of crazy?
Why are samoans so gangster
Guam boy here.
I always thought that Finding Nemo was the closest I'd get to a worldwide theatrical cartoon depicting the kind of culture and stories I grew up hearing.
This is surreal. The color palette alone gives me goosebumps.
>>83876028
That was Vin Diesel, not The Rock
>>83878891
>a gigantic turbonerd shilled for Street Sharks
It actually might have been weird if Vin Diesel had gone through without having been a Street Sharks salesman.
>>83877981
>Immigrate to new country
>Not have that much money
>Move to poorer neighborhood
>Poorer neighborhood has higher likelihood of crime
>Higher likelihood of crime brings unfortunate romanticizing of THUG LIFE
Rinse, lather, repeat ad nauseum.
Even those who get out stick to the style and thus pass it on. Jungle out of the tiger and what have you.
>>83875320
Elephants wouldn't really work as domesticated animals anyway, since they take about the same time as a human to grow up. If you wanted a specific trait to emerge in them, like we've done with dogs, cats, pigs and many more, it would take centuries.
>>83860396
very much so
>>83852432
I wish it was about Maui and his Sharkman son
>>83876185
Well, the Americas had potatoes, corn, sweet potatoes, cassava, beans...
Basically the industrial revolution depended on their plants.
Disney shouldn't promote fatties
>>83881549
Now he looks like he wants my strongest potions.
>>83881549
>implying that's not just how samoans are
Samoans are fucking huge
>>83881549
>muh bodybuilder aesthetic
Ever heard of strongfat, kid?
You might not recognize it, since American fat doesn't tend to have muscle in it.
