When does every comic want to become "modern"? Can't they be happy being themselves.
>>83850587
Dilbert is about modernity though
>>83851178
This. Scott Adams is still on the cutting edge of bantz, too.
>>83850587
Topical and political comics are gonna tend to discuss or rip apart current things.
>>83850587
Hah, that was pretty good.
>>83850587
i'd rather see alice or tina go Sjew and wreck the company with agendas and Code of Conducts
>>83850587
It's a daily strip. That's fucking harrowing to produce unless you latch on to topical issues.
Or you are a Schulz or Waterson
>>83850587
Loud Howard was the best part of that show. Shame he doesn't translate to paper all that well.
>>83851497
>Shulz was never topical
>>83850587
Why do you keep posting this
is it because someone who is famous has views that align with views yours about social justice
>>83851903
That wasn't implied. The fact is Schulz's characters are so loved and recognizable, and the brand so established, he can basically make them do anything, and the strip will work.
I think.
Some handle it better than others. Heathcliff would probably be one of the best examples of adapting to the changing times. There have been several comics in which "texting” (short text messages sent via mobile phone, popular with teens) is the subject of a joke. The author also makes references to social media, such as the website Facebook (website that allows you to interact with other people and form networks of friends and family for free!).
None of this is a detriment to the strips, as they're intelligently written to the advantage of the humor rather than being tacked on in an attempt to remain relevant.
Dilbert has always been about modernity and the awfulness of professional rheotric.
>>83851271
Can confirm. Adams has the freshest bantz.
>>83850587
fucking S A V A G E
>>83851903
There's also that one strip about Harry Potter.
Looking forward to this guy becoming a regular.
>>83851271
Adams is an honorary Australian at this point.
>>83854205
I don't think it was an attempt to latch onto a trend though. He just needed a relevent fictional character.
Modernity is destroying the world.
>No one brings up the Family Values one that references Dawn of War 2
Dilbert is all about the current workplace environment. If it were still making crazy '90s "synergy"-style management jokes, it would be anachronistic.
>>83855513
Does this mean terms like SJW are commonplace among the normies now?
>>83851178
I thought it was about office/work humor.
>>83851961
Don't know what you mean, first time I've ever posted this.
>>83850587
I think you should kill yourself, OP.
>>83855541
Among the relatively young and educated normies, yes.
>>83855541
Yes and people are getting sick of them in a hurry.
>>83855541
It is.
>>83855541
They have been for a little while now.
>>83851903
Reminds me of when the Nostalgia Chick from That Guy With the Glasses said Disney never stooped to "cartoon animals hurting each other" and other "low humor"
http://channelawesome.com/forums/threads/dreamworks-vs-disney-pt1-up.26865/#post-375443
>>83855594
#wow #whoa
>>83850587
Question, has anybody here ever met a SJW in real life? I certainly haven't, although I see them on the internet a bunch.
>>83855680
i met someone who said "don't say retard" and i said ok what about fucktard and they were pretty hesitant about that one too
>>83855680
They congregate on college campuses and cities like New York, San Francisco, Portland, and Seattle.
>>83854405
Bro off!
>>83850587
This is an edit, right? What was the original?
>>83855708
So, successful places?
>>83855726
That's the original.
Dilbert a shit.Oops! Can't say that, or the hivemind might get upset.
>>83855708
Yeah. Can't speak for everybody but "cisgender" and "gender-neutral" is seeing some usage in schools and colleges in the Northwest.
I'll always laugh when people say alt-righters are worse than SJW's.
>>83855766
>Dilbert a shit
is that positive or negative?
>>83855824
Negative.
>>83855726
Yeah, check out Scott's blog. Dude's pretty based.
>>83855680
I found out one of my ex-classmates was a secret sjw. She has a tumblr where she spews all her bile, but she never says anything in the real world, probably because all of our professors are white men.
If I ever see her again I will tell her how much she disgusts me.
>>83855860
Meh.
I don't have much attachment to Dilbert.
I do probably have a VHS of the tv show lying around somewhere, however.
>>83855766
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITL4NqOKmzk
>>83855680
My brother and sister, sadly.
Both got really defensive when I pointed out that single mothers are worse at raising children than two parent homes.
>>83856064
What are their actual beliefs and worldviews though?
>>83856064
Is that true for comparative incomes? It's hardly an SJW issue either... it's common sense taht it's easier to raise a child with two people rather than one
>>83855680
My older sister is a radical feminist. Of the "can braid her armpit hair" variety.
>>83856064
That's a pretty dumb thing to say though. And not really an sjw thing.
>>83855680
My sister is an edge-case, but yes
>>83855470
Or Dark Crusade
>>83855645
People tend to forget things that go against their narratives. Peanuts is wholesome and timeless so it never made pop culture references or attempted to be topical. Disney is "above" other animation companies so would never do anything too raucus.
Is that contraption stuffing an umbrella into that bird's asshole?
>>83850587
god damn i love alice.
>>83855513
i dunno, i feel like.. if society didn't change from the lessons fiction explained back then, then we haven't taught them hard enough yet. you don't update 1984, yknow?
>>83855708
not my seattle. i was actually really pleased at how everyone i met there had their heads on straight. but i only got to live there from 2012-2015 before it got too expensive
>>83850587
Kek.
>>83857042
1984 is old and busted. Current brand of dystopia comes with rampant consumerism and demented activism.
>>83855680
They're not always dressed up, sometimes you have to talk to people to learn about when they believe.
But here's a relevant video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWJT0egzAy0
>>83855787
pubic school has always been like that though
in their case i think you CAN blame the crazy conservatives for pushing them in that direction out of spite. when you have people flipping their shit for talking about sex, you can't be surprised when schools start teaching deviance-only sex education
>>83856565
kind of dumb since it's not like people have any choice. obviously theyd all have six parents per kid if they could. same goes with fagadoption. until every last kid is adopted, hand them out like candy. once they're all properly homed, then you can start having standards again and worrying about which is the best upbringing.
>>83857092
So Brave New World rather than 1984?
SJW stuff exists in the real world. In programming especially. It's rather annoying because the women and brown people who sprout that shit don't even believe in it, but use it as a tool to advance themselves/do less work.
>>83857092
>>83857042
but if 1984 was a constant series you'd expect it's commentary to evolve with the climate
OR they could just write it in the context of their own series I guess.
>>83855680
Closest thing I can think of is my best friend's mom, who believes in the wage gap.
Despite that, I wouldn't call her an SJW.
>>83856130
Some stat shows that kids from single parent households have worse chances of success, IIRC.
>>83857130
I honestly think Brave New World would be better than the world we have now. At least people just enjoyed themselves and didn't give a fuck in BNW. It's people taking everything so seriously that pisses me off about today's world. Just fucking stop caring, you stupid fucks.
>>83857240
I hear that some stat is a reputable source.
>>83856207
I mean I can't stand SJWs but I definitely think women should be able to have body hair and not get shit for it.
>>83857265
> leaving in any kind of dystopia
> good
look at this guy.
>>83851417
Alice gives no fuck about that shit. It's Tina and the fat woman who bitch about that. Tina especially because she's paid so much less than the engineers.
>>83851859
It was on paper first. You mean the cartoon version outdid the original.
>>83857287
>and not get shit for it
Anon, no one has that right, okay? I shave my fucking balls as a bare minimum consideration to my partners. For-fucking-give me if I don't want to have to look at a yeti while I fuck.
>>83857265
why do you care so much about how much they care you crazy faggot
i honestly don't get how other people's opinions are such a priority in these kinds of threads
>>83855680
I have. They're almost the other side of the autist coin. It's kind of weird, actually, to see them flounder in public. Like watching a r63 /r9k/.
>hanging out with some chick
>wanted to tap it
>she's 50/50 white/hispanic, but looks white
>says the only time she'll get pregnant is with a black man
>She's only dated white men
>point out her husband might not like that
>"Whatever, it's my body"
>yeah,andhismoney.mp3
She had no response.
>>83857265
We just lack proper context for what we're supposed to care about.
>>83855541
Enough to fuck up the business enviornment at tech companies. He's actually somewhat behind the curve now I think.
>>83857279
>The results indicate that higher levels of parent stress, more frequent spanking, and less frequent father–child contact at time 1 were associated with increased teacher-reported behavior problems
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3193152/#!po=1.04167
>>83855680
Yes.
I know someone who started pulling certain cards out of their Cards against Humanity set because they were offensive.
Notably, Brown People and Passable Transvestites.
>>83857287
>women should be able to have body hair and not get shit for it.
Sorry Anon, but pubes are nasty no matter what. At least trim them to a respectable level. Even men do that.
>>83857092
That's because 1984 is happening, or close to it anyway
>>83857265
NONSENSE AS SALVATION
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/book/1.php
>>83855704
Did you know that lame, stupid, dumb, moronic, dopey, and idiotic are all equally negative and nothing about retarded is worse?
>>83852890
You can tell it's topical humor because Heathcliff is wearing a "Topical Humor" helmet.
>>83857417
I think it's funny how a sign of sexual maturity became nasty and something to be reverted to pre-pubescent style.
>>83857092
The aspects regarding the Ministry of Love working to rebuild the language to suit the Party's needs and the people gladly wanting to be ruled and watched over by Big Brother and accepting the Party's bold lies through doublethink, describe SJWs quite accurately.
That's what, I think, separates them from other dogmatic groups in the past: they accept restrictions with gusto. Extremist movements in the past spoke of attaining freedom and power; SJWs speak of attaining censorship and submission.
>>83857395
But surely Two Midgets Shitting In A Bucket is fine.
>>83857338
It's fine if you don't like it dude, I'm not saying people should stop shaving altogether. Like with facial hair everyone has their preferences. I just don't think women should be spurned or lambasted for making a personal choice about their bodies. I mean practically everyone grows some amount of body hair, it's not some awful unnatural thing.
>>83857340
Well done lad.
>>83855680
I go to school in NYC. Majority of the campus is female, and majority of the men are gay. I'm not allowed to say "stupid" "retarded" "dumb" "lame" etc. because they're ablist. My psychology teacher blames white males, christians, and trump supporters for everything wrong with the world. Do the math.
>>83857092
google corp is building 1984 by the letter you should educate yourself a little
>>83857458
So, women with mega bushes are obviously the most sexually mature, right? You do realize that periods are signs of sexual maturity, but no one finds them attractive (besides the one dude who will reply to this with some epic >implying joke).
>>83857265
>I honestly think Brave New World would be better than the world we have now.
>>83857417
Well of course you should groom and maintain yourself. That goes for men and women alike.
>>83857475
I could not save her. She's still 9/10 crazy in a 7/10 bod.
>>83857472
>SJWs speak of attaining censorship and submission.
You know the concept of security vs freedom has been a thing since the social contract, right?
>>83857474
>I just don't think women should be spurned or lambasted for making a personal choice about their bodies.
If that choice is nasty, then I have no sympathy. I don't expect people to think I'm attractive if I grow a homeless man beard and gain 100 pounds.
>>83857505
Well, if I say I want to fuck a woman who isn't old enough to get periods, that'd make me some kind of pervert. Still, a woman during period is not very fertile and thus not very attractive to non-deviants.
My point is that body hair is something that comes with puberty and I'm amused at idea of removing it to be more attractive. Arguably the same thing is with weight standards but I'm not so sure.
>>83855680
I know one. He's the most spoiled rich white kid you can find.
>>83857474
People are free to do whatever with their own bodies, just like other people are free to criticize or avoid them for those choices.
>>83857568
>If that choice is nasty
But it's only perceived as nasty because of society's standards.
> beards
false equivalence. Think more like leg hair.
>>83855680
I work at a college in southern california. The shit's real, yo.
>>83856130
Yes. Spectacularly so. And it doesn't matter for race or income or even gender orientation. The outcomes for Single parents are much worse. US stats anyways.
And by what kind of worse, I mean criminality, drug use, academic performance, behavior problems.
>>83857339
Because it's not an idle, secluded group. It's expanding, as >>83855787 and >>83695781 about a week ago pointed out.
>>83857521
>>83857265
>>83857435
>>83857436
>>83857472
>>83857279
>I hear that some stat is a reputable source.
Around group therapies some of the worst wrecks have been raised by single mothers. Likewise, degradation of American blacks can be attributed to desintegration of black family model, leaving behind scores of people raised by youung mothers or grandmothers.
Antropologically speaking, this king of child rearing is the default setting for human species at our most simple stage where the sole concern is preservation of genome - not overall well-being of individual beings.
>>83857575
Breasts also develop during puberty. Are women with flat chests sexually immature? Should they be excluded from relationships? I mean, if someone finds no pubic hair and flat chests attractive, are they attracted to sexually immature people?
>>83857436
So you're saying that shitposting is saintly?
>>83855541
It always ways you secret club faggot.
>>83857474
> I just don't think women should be spurned or lambasted for making a personal choice about their bodies.
> Like eating a lot, not shaving and becoming a human warthog.
Good luck with that.
>>83855680My gf is hispanic and spouts the power+privilege=racism nonsense all the time
>>83855680
I have, crazy bitch when I was studying in America.
She told to check my privilege (no seriously they she did it) once, then proceed to call me names when she did not believe I was Mexican because I was too tall and not brown as fuck.
>>83857564
SJWs don't want security. They want silence.
>>83857615
Is a 300 pound hambeast unattractive because of society's standards? I'll grant you that body hair is largely a societal thing, but honestly hair is just nasty when unshaved. No girl wants to suck a dick with sweaty, long pubes everywhere, and no guy wants to go down on a girl with a similar situation. I don't know a lot of guys who want a clean-shaven vagina, so much as a trimmed area.
>>83857633
I was waiting for someone to post this.
>>83857615
>But it's only perceived as nasty because of society's standards.
...And?
>>83857633
Honestly, it's a mix of bread and circuses and knives in the dark, just like it always has been and always will be.
>>83857660
Well, we let you become a human warthog, so I don't see what the problem is.
>>83855680
Some of the people I game with tend to leave preachy updates on their facebook statuses. They're genuinely nice people in every other respect, so I just leave 'em be.
>>83855766
Eh, I think the comic dropped in quality after the cartoon, but that can be applied to other comic strips as well e.g. Garfield, Heathcliff.
Adams' actual books are still great, though.
This thread is lacking in good dilbert strips. Let's fix that.
>>83857660
>strawman
Men and women both grow body hair. It is perfectly natural. It should be maintained and cared for, like all aspects of one's body. But why are women expected to shave all of it? It's no more gross or unnatural than male body hair and women have been growing body hair much longer than they've been shaving it.
You guys sound like a bunch of teenagers honestly.
>>83857637
>Should they be excluded from relationships?
Jumping the gun a bit there champ.
>>83857745
Oh wow, nice comeback. I bet you cannot even lift faggot.
>>83857704
But all the issues they tackle, regardless of how they do it, are security issues. They want more security in exchange of less freedom.
>>83857771
>>83857633
Yeah, yeah, I know all that.
That's what I moved from reading essays now. 1984 and Animal Farm get quoted to hell and back, but Orwell's essays hold more truth and relevancy to today's world than either those novels. Also, Homage to Catalonia; it shows how a revolution is betrayed by its own champions.
>>83857444
Retarded itself was supposed to be a more politically correct and less mean way to refer to the condition of being mentally challenged.
But that has been forgotten in time.
And whatever the new term will be, it will become offensive eventually too because the fundamental issue will never change, they still have a condition and the SJWs are squeamish about acknowledging it, facing what is going on in the real world.
It's the same deal with "fat" and everything else.
They can make all the fancy words and terms they want but they are still going to be referring to the exact same fucking thing as the old word. The same issue.
Demanding new different words from people means you are just demanding new more convoluted ways for people to call you the same old fatass.
>>83857647
No.
4Chan is a wonderful place because of what we build, and, more importantly, how we do it.
Irreverence.
Anonymity and lack of organization have created an entire culture full of nuances. We have people that draw anything for no reason. Through the chaos of anonymity and little restriction, we create.
If you shitpost just to ruin someone's day, that's bad.
If you shitpost in a way that derails the thread in an interesting way, that's good. You've added something new.
Bullshit makes the flowers grow & that's beautiful.
>>83857777
Because body hair is associated with men, largely due to thicker hair being present on the chest, face, arms, and legs, while women generally have little to no hair on the chest, face, and arms, and relatively less hair on the legs. Ergo, a hairless appearance is more feminine, while a hairy appearance is more masculine, and since like 98% of men are not gay, the preference gravitates toward less hair.
But sure, call us teenagers because we don't like to fuck hairy women. Next you'll say flat is justice and only 12 year olds like big boobs.
>>83857745
>Well, we let you become a human warthog, so I don't see what the problem is.
Thing is, SJWs as a rule of thumb are unable to accept the consequences of their own decisions, let alone try to live with them or - God forbid! - strive to overcome them.
Whenever radfem turns herself into a she-hog, she will blame every outcome of such transformation on 'patriarchy' and demand that action should be taken in order to shame everyone else into appreciating her newfound form.
>>83857792
You don't need to pretend your from /fit/.
>>83857874
>>>/pol/
>>83857874
>Influence of money and power
>Nope, racism!
Ok
>>83857777
> But why are women expected to shave all of it?
Because women look better that way?
> It's no more gross or unnatural than male body hair
But men look better with that. Unless you plan to become a trap or a twink.
> b-but that's just a preference!
Yeah, the preference of 90% of men. If you don't mind then it's your problem. Just like there actual dudes that jack off to hambeasts, just don't come here expecting that people will agree with your personal beauty standard.
>>83855766
what would you offer as a superior alternative?
>>83857927
You don't need to pretend you didn't get upset because the shoe fitted.
>>83857980
Superior Dilbert, obviously.
>>83857820
I don't really get why they wanna take the sting out of insults. If I'm supposed feel insulted, what's the point replacing retarded with a fluffier word that means the same shit. Context matters most with word use anyway so outright banning words or ******ing them is just dumb.
>>83857820
BTW. Mentally challenged is considered insulting now. The current term is Intellectual disabilities, as per DSM5.
Shitposters out there, please calibrate accordingly.
>>83857940
The existence of one doesn't negate the existence of the other dipshit. They in fact often compound upon each other. Being rich and not being a minority BOTH helped this douchebag get a joke of a sentence.
>>83858006
Is that when Catbert took over his body?
>>83857873
You're right that women grow less body hair so why does society say women have to shave it all? You're the only one fixating on fucking super hairy women. I mean you don't even get to have sex with every woman so you could at least be mature about the fact that they grow hair too.
>>83855680
>dinner with my siblings
>sister starts talking shit about dad
>"why do you dislike him anyways" i ask
>"because he's so white male upperclass"
for someone being adamantly against racism and sexism it's kinda dumb listing gender and race as something that's wrong with a person. And upperclass is just wrong, our dad is a car mechanic by education from bumfuck nowhere who spend a few decades in the military working on tanks, truly the textbook definition of high-class.
>>83857855
It helps that most of us grew up in an era before social media and smartphones. We learned at an early age how to separate our real-world lives from our internet lives.
But nowadays, with the barrier not existing anymore, so the younger people treat the Internet as something 100% serious and truthful. So when somebody gets called a nigger or fag or retard, they react with total indignation. Plus, as Bret Easton Ellis wrote last year, the newer generations have been pampered and coddled and smothered by their "helicopter parents", resulting in their fragile ego. And they think everyone is just as thin-skinned and easily TRIGGERED as them, hence why we have the "I'll be offended for you!" types.
As a result, we have an entire generation of people fighting fiercely to censor everything that is "offensive", "insensitive", "problematic", etc. not just on the Internet but in the real world - of course, they cannot make the distinction between either. God help us all.
>>83858063
I guess it works sort of like fads and fashions now that I think about.
Except way more retarded.
>>83858101
D millenials.
>>83858109
>retarded
REEEEEEEEEEEE
>>83858068
Meanwhile at Missouri, being rich AND being a minority helped a student make the president resign and force the staff to "diversify."
>>83858101
>We learned at an early age how to separate our real-world lives from our internet lives.
I think you're still stuck in the mid-2000s mindset where there were few enough people on the internet that it was considered separate from "real life".
Sorry man but it's become more and more of an open hub of communication now, not a hiding place for people who are more comfortable identifying with their username than their real ones.
>>83858074
Why do men have to shave at all? They grow even more hair. Why do we get haircuts? The attractiveness of short hair is just a social construct, obviously.
>>83857633
i hate that picture, because whoever made it never read brave new world. The situation he's describing where people just stop reading books and thinking in general is not at all like BNW, but it is exactly like farenheit 451, that book that loads of people think are about government censorship because they've never read it either.
>>83858152
I'd say the problem is more about people identifying MORE with their usernames than before.
To us there was the "me" and there was the "internet-me".
Now there is only the internet-me.
>>83858074
>You're right that women grow less body hair so why does society say women have to shave it all?
It's just a fashion in the end. Before Alexander the Great, it was in vogue for Greek men to grow a full beard. The Romans much later took after him and also promoted shaving, hence why you see busts of Greek men with beards but most Roman busts are clean shaven.
Then mustaches and beards returned and were the vogue in Europe for centuries before that changed and shaved faces became the "default", so to say.
It's just a fashion: hairy, trimmed, shaven...
>>83851271
Reading his twitter is gold
as is his blog
>>83858178
>The attractiveness of short hair is just a social construct.
Nope, it's more practical. It's why egyptians shaved.
>>83858178
>The attractiveness of short hair is just a social construct, obviously.
It is, though. Not all cultures prefer short hair.
>>83858253
Hair ties and braids, my man.
>>83858101
>. Plus, as Bret Easton Ellis wrote last year, the newer generations have been pampered and coddled
Every motherfucker says that.
They were saying it in the 1920s, they'll be saying it in the 2020s.
>>83858253
Depends on the location senpai.
>>83858184
>where people just stop reading books and thinking in general is not at all like BNW,
That's debatable. Wasn't one of the main points of the book that when people were confronted with critical or controversial thoughts, they just pump themselves full of soma in order to ignore the whole situation?
>>83858248His blog actually got me to realize that Trump actually does know what he's doing despite everything thinking he hadn't a clue, and that's why the guy has managed to get as far as he has. The insight into persuasion tactics is pretty informative.
>>83855680
I go to college in New York
it's very real
>>83858284
Right. Different cultures value hair in different ways. So why is it so upsetting for people to shave because their culture encourages it?
>>83858253
Human hair is so fucking weird. Most other mammals have uniform hair over their body but nah we get hair that never stops growing in one place plus pubes and barely any hair anywhere else.
>>83855680
My ex was an Asian girl from california, we dated while both attending school in the southeast.
She posts lots of "trump is Hitler" "10 racist things Asians hear daily" "#oscarssowhite" kinda shit on facebook now. I'm not sure if she was SJW or just a California liberal contrasted with the bible belt.
>>83858392
Could that possibly be proof of INTELLIGENT DESIGN?
>>83858392
>tfw growing a beard in the winter feels annoying as fuck but growing one in summer feels great
Shit don't make sense.
>>83858416
>SJW or just a California liberal
Is there a difference?
>>83855680
I live out west so most girls I know aren't really the SJW types. I'm sure they exist, but other than my sister (who has been stupidly defensive of muslims as of the shooting), I've never interacted personally with a girl I would consider a sjw.
Maybe a few really pretentious artsy types and a few "I'm a Redneck woman" types, but not the overweight, dyed hair and horn rimmed glasses types or something similar.
I think internet usage has some kind of correlation for women and being an sjw
>>83858392
Something about efficient sweating?
>>83858298
Ellis isn't wrong though. People now lose control over something as innocuous and dumb as a Twitter post. It's just freaking Twitter!
https://twitter.com/BretEastonEllis/status/252694490819735552
>>83858438
Yeah, there's a difference between
#killallmen
#diecisscum
And people who are a little preachy.
The difference between Whor and green arrow.
>>83855680
I've been in California for 18 years.
Not once have I seen them. I honestly think they don't exist sometimes.
>>83858581It's been you all along
>>83858327
They only do that because they are perfect cogs in the socialist machine, not a people who have abadoned higher learning/thinking for short term pleasures.
The society in Brave New World excerts a level of control beyond even that in 1984, everyone is born in test-tube factories and conditioned genetically before fertilization, with an asortment of methods during fetal development, and constantly while growing up (in that same factory). The reason they take soma is because for hundreds of hours while they slept as children they were implanted with the idea to do just that in any distressing situation. Children destined for factories would never touch a book because they were gives electrical shocks as toddlers if they reached for one, rocketship pilots are only really happy during a mission because as fetuses they recieved extra oxygen while being tumbled about etc.
And there's no secret ruling class of opressors who uphold the system through malice, everyone is brought up like this in BNW, even the alpha plus class. The book isn't so much "oh no everyone is taking drugs and not reading books" as it is "all of society has been reorganized around factory efficiency, everybody is born only to produce and consume a specific amount of goods, never to upset the social order, and then die all the while being happy about it"
>>83858581
You are just blind to it because you are so SJW yourself.
>>83858253
it's also fucking hot in the desert.
Many egyptian women were even shaved
>>83858581
What'd you major in? Gonna take a wild guess and say it wasn't an art field.
>>83858223
No, that's inane.
The reason they identify so much with it nowadays is because it actually is literally them.
There is no "internet me" for them because they don't insist on that distinction like you do. You're trying to apply your old mindset on a new generation that simply don't think that way.
For them calling someone a piece of shit on the internet is in no way different from calling them a piece of shit over the phone, or to their face, and why the fuck would it be? They aren't the ones convinced that Anonymous is a totally different persona from Richard Peterson. They know that when Anonymous writes a post, it is only made possible by Richard Peterson, he did not put on a green mask and turn into a shitposting supervillain, he's just a dick.
>>83850587
>Can't they be happy being themselves.
Hate to break it to you bucko, but people born after 9/11 have no interest in reading humour comics about 90's office culture
>>83858653
>There is no "internet me" for them because they don't insist on that distinction like you do.
That's what >>83858101 said. Newer generations cannot make that distinction, and when that's combined with their sheltered upbringing, it results in them lashing out at anything they perceive might be even slightly "Offensive". Tilting at windmills is accepted and encouraged; because heaven forbid anyone stepping even slightly out of line.
>>83858416
She's talking full SJW. She's completely out of touch with Confucian ideals by saying that, as she's clearly culturally appropriated white liberal protest culture.. It's one level more if she actively goes out and does stupid shit though.
>>83855680
>Go to NYCC
>Go to a "diversity in comics"panel featuring real PoC writers and artists
>Panelists are all great and say interesting things
>Then comes the audience question portion
SJWs ruin everything. I sat next to a lesbian librarian who took it upon herself to very visibly sort through her pronoun cards and decried the patriarchy at every turn
I just want to point out I posted this exact strip yesterday and the thread was deleted after like 30 posts
>>83858653
So are you for or against anonymous internet communities like this one, or internet anonymity in general?
>>83858581
If you're away from the 4 major cities, particularly on the eastern rural parts, its very belivable that he wouldn't have seen any of that shit.
>>83858773
Cannot, or prefer not?
>>83858824
They're here aren't they?
>>83858839
Why not both?
>>83858653
Yes, Anonymous is the real Richard Peterson, the one who doesn't have to filter what he says to conform to societal norms. The fact that the current generation believes in forcing people to conform to societal norms wherever they may be or under whatever identity just tells me they're totalitarian scum. When people feel they can be their real selves it's liberating and creates honest debate and argument, people don't have to police themselves like they do in the real world.
I think the real difference is that people who grew up on the internet in the late 90s and early 2000s grew thick skin and stopped caring about words on a screen, whereas the new generation's skin stayed unbelievably thin and they started to care almost MORE about words than actions. I still don't really understand how or why this happened. I always imagined the internet would lead everybody to become much more thick skinned, honest and untrollable. Instead the opposite has happened. And it's horrible.
>>83858810
Sorry, I mentioned gamergate in that thread
>>83858773
>That's what >>83858101 said.
Yes, but he said it as if they were wrong to think that.
That post and you are talking like the internet is some place where you become a totally different person. That is wrong. It may have been that way before it caught on as something more than a place for hobbyists to chat, but we're in a post-Facebook world, this isn't your secret club anymore. Your rules of detachment was only ever a mindset you adopted because you used the internet as a place to discuss things you'd be too embarrassed or alienated to talk about in real life, but it's not an inherent rule of the internet and makes no sense to be considering its use as a method of communication.
They are lashing out at you saying offensive things at them because you ARE saying offensive things at them. Calling them a jackass over the internet is literally no different from doing it in person, the only different is that you've been inundated with this ancient viewpoint that's reinforced by the fact that you're spared any immediate reaction from them.
Their connection to their quote-unquote "internet self" isn't the problem. Your detachment is.
>>83858941
You fool!
>>83858791
True. Great boobs though. Worth the trouble.
>>83858659
>but people born after 9/11 have no interest in reading comics about anything other than singing and crying
Fixed that for ya, champ
>>83858825
>If you're away from the 4 major cities
San Diego, San Francisco, Los Angeles and...Sacramento?
>>83858143
>REEEEEEEtarded
>>83858946
>Yes, but he said it as if they were wrong to think that.
>>83858101 here. It's obviously not an objectively wrong thing. But it's certainly what encourages SJWs to equate, say, some piece of fanart on the internet or some random post on facebook to being an insensitive, privileged, colonial cis-het white oppressor beating a muslim woman in the head with a copy of Mein Kampf.
>Calling them a jackass over the internet is literally no different from doing it in person,
Like I said, it's not even that direct. It's not even about actually doing something, but by NOT doing something as well. Guilty till proven innocent. If EVER proven innocent. Like the other day, I caught an argument on deviantart where somebody argued that NOT including a brown in a drawing is "insulting to People Of Color."
The need to be offended on other people's behalf and attack things that aren't there is exacerbated. We've moved from racism being what one does to also what one does not. Ergo, windmill tilting.
>this isn't your secret club anymore.
It's not about secret clubs. It's about having a backbone and not to getting offended over things that aren't even there.
>>83859105
San Jose is pretty big.
Even Fresno is bigger than Sacramento.
However, I know for a fact that these cities are shit, so it might as well be Sacramento.
Friendly reminder that Adams is a retard that was wrong about Trump. Will he kill himself when Trump loses? I hope so.
>>83859273
Evidence?
>Wishing someone dead because they talk about a political figure.
Wew!
>>83859273
Why would he? He openly endorsed Hillary Clintonfor his own safety.
>>83858946
But society won't allow people be as honest as they can be under pseudonyms or anonymity. Seriously, in some countries saying things out loud they'd post on /pol/ could land them in jail. Even here on /co/, people can talk with impunity about wanting to fuck Penny from Inspector Gadget. Try making that a conversation opener in the pub.
Believe me, I wish I could be the person I am on the internet in real life, but until the day comes we live in a libertarian utopia where people are happy to let others think and say things they consider abhorrent, they have to remain separate. It seems like what you're saying is that you believe there are actual people in the world who don't have dark, twisted, violent thoughts and are always nice and considerate to others? I'm not convinced personally.
>>83859230
>It's not about secret clubs. It's about having a backbone and not to getting offended over things that aren't even there.
Except the accusations are often just power grabs. Every single conservative will be accused of racism, sexism, whateverism by sjw's because it costs them nothing to do so and allows them to attack their ideological enemies.
The majority of these accusations are not made in good faith.
>>83857196
I loved NationStates.
>>83857240
Not 'single parent,' single mother.
Statistically, single fathers are as good at raising children as a two-parent household.
>>83859273
>wrong about Trump
I thought he was one of the few people who actually predicted his success?
>>83859434
Obviously. That's why they invent crimes, like "microaggressions", or poison the well, which is essentially what "mansplaining" or "whitesplaining" amount to. They get offended over things that aren't there, so they make them.
>>83859436
I wish I were able to actually grasp the whole role-playing aspect of it.
>>83858610
Brave New World is not a tyranny.
As Sheng-ji Yang once said, "How can you tyrannize someone who cannot feel pain?"
>>83859479
Leftards believe when it comes to Trump even when you're right you're wrong.
>>83859541
I was playing as a nation where neither of the Rhodesias fell, were united, and then peacefully moved into majority rule after successfully educating the native Shona population.
>>83859679
Why do you think majority rule is virtuous?
>>83859728
Whether it is or not depends entirely on whether the majority are virtuous.
>>83859728
As opposed to a minority ruling over an enormous, ethnically-divided underclass?
>>83859783
I don't think you could ever claim that the majority of any population is wholly virtuous
>>83859794
Yes, opposed to a ruling elite and a strict social hierarchy with serfdom at the foundation
>>83859828
Hrmn.
Well, it was roleplaying.
I was entitled to a little fantasy.
>>83859809
Universal suffrage was a mistake.
>>83859809
>Objective virtue
What is considered virtuous is determined by culture, therefore the majority is probably going to be very virtuous as they decide what constitutes virtue.
>>83859475
Show your stats because I doubt it.
>>83859901
The ideals of virtue are objective, yes. When humanity moves away from these ideals, it isn't virtue itself that is changing
>>83856981
>Is that contraption stuffing an umbrella into that bird's asshole?
noit's stuffing it into his cloaca. birds have cloacae.
>>83857372
yeah, this
when they make about the meritocracy of programming, these employees NEED to go
>>83854405
Add a couple hundred pounds to this guy and he's Austin from Giant Bomb in every single way.
>>83859982
>The ideals of virtue are objective, yes
Bullshit, you don't have a single shred of evidence to back that statement up.
>>83857672
the irony of it all is that they're almost always racist
they're just so in the closet about it
>>83860096
Liberals believe that ethnic minorities are incapable of escaping poverty and becoming successful on their own.
Liberals suffer a tragic case of White Man's Burden.
>>83857340
>Things that didn't happen for $500
>>83860090
It's key to understanding the very concept of virtue that virtue exists a transcendent ideal. What you're getting confused here is that you actually just don't believe that either sin or virtue exist to begin with.
>>83859273
>Friendly reminder that Adams is a retard that was wrong about Trump.
Last year in August when Nate Silver predicted (and gave reasons to believe) Trump had only a 2% chance of getting the Republican nomination, Adams was already believing (and gave reasons for believing) Trump would become the Republican nominee.
I don't like Trump, but I think Adams is on to something. However I'm always dismayed at how many people I know online (people from forums I used to frequent, comic book professionals) who's got left-leaning politics with suddenly sperg or snark out over Adams just because he said something about Trump. I mean I get freaking out over Trump, but Adams?
>>83859273
Has anyone else noticed how violent liberals have been getting?
I knew there was a rabid animal underneath all those man buns and skinny jeans but it's as if they're not even trying to hide it anymore.
>>83859869
>Men's suffrage was a mistake
Fixed. The 19th Amendment and its foreign equivalents didn't go far enough.
>>83860163
>implying I need you to believe me
>>83860163
I've seen enough episodes of Maury povich and Cops to think it's possible.
>>83860289
Only the best citizens of a nation who have proven themselves to have an extensive understanding of political and social theory should have any say in how their nation is run.
>>83860178
Virtue and sin do exist, its just that what that means varies by culture, since morality varies by culture.
The idea that there is some gold standard that exists independent of humanity just seems like wishful thinking at best.
>>83850587
Is this legit?
>>83860289
Right, because men are the problem.
>>83860342
>>83858184
thank you
>>83860342
>Would You Like To Know More?
>>83860356
Only if you're an atheist.
>>83860356
I'd say these differences are only exterior.
>>83855680
Yes, I go to grad school in New York so I'm surrounded by them. I'm very left-wing and a minority and I hate them all. I'm tired of referring to myself as a PoC, it's fucking insulting.
>>83860205
They think anyone speaking positively of Trump (or rather, anyone not condemning everything he says as pure stupidity) is for Trump, and therefor the enemy.
>>83857334
every society is dystopian
>>83857395
Did you just mock them until they self-terminated?
>>83860404
If you're working on the assumption that there is a god then yes you would believe there is some gold standard. That doesn't provide any evidence to support the idea though and really shouldn't be used as a basis for government.
>>83860488
>I'm tired of referring to myself as a PoC,
Then don't?
>>83860488
>I'm tired of referring to myself as a PoC
Then why do it? Rebel against the label, take a stand.
>>83858556
People have been chimping out over stupid shit since we've been people though.
>>83855680
My best friend who's like a sister could be labeled as one, my shitty ex was an anti-sjw feminist when I started dating her but after we broke up she was starting to lean more towards that side.I found her tumblr by accident once because I was scrolling through the Dio Brando tag for some fanart and found a picture of her with a Dio body pillow (I know it was her because the account had her name in it and I reconized that blue side shave). I though "oh cool I wonder what she posts about". Go to it and the very first post I see is "Every white man does not realize that he is born racist and will always be racist". Glad I got out of that before things got worse.
But I think it just goes to show how your beleifs don't make you a good or bad person, but rather how you apply them and treat other people. Unless you're bigotted I mean.
>>83857637
I mean, according to the Australian government, yes?
>>83859273
>Will he kill himself when Trump loses? I hope so.
jesus, you sure are fucking bitter.
>>83860404
I'm Catholic and I agree with that other anon. The archetypical ideas of good and evil are pretty much universal. But WHAT is good and WHAT is evil will vary greatly, even amongst two people.
As Thomas Hobbes put it:
>"whosoever looketh into himselfe, and considereth what he doth, when he does Think, Opine, Reason, Hope, Feare, &c, and upon what grounds; he shall thereby read and know, what are the thoughts, and Passions of all other men, upon the like occasions. I say the similitude of Passions, which are the same in all men, Desire, Feare, Hope, &c; not the similitude or The Objects of the Passions, which are the things Desired, Feared, Hoped, &c: for these the constitution individuall, and particular education do so vary, and they are so easie to be kept from our knowledge, that the characters of mans heart, blotted and confounded as they are, with dissembling, lying, counterfeiting, and erroneous doctrines, are legible onely to him that searcheth hearts."
>>83857726
It's also that people want healthy mates, and society developed standards of beauty along the lines of what is seen as attractive.
