What are your thoughts on this movie? It won't be as good as deadpool and apocalypse or UC bvs and skwad, but it will be far better than Civil War desu senpai.
>Falseflagging
>>83769988
It'll be another quipfest. I'm willing to bet 50 on that
>>83770121
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Kill yourself. This movie will be good, and there's nothing you can do to make it bad.
>>83770244
>buzzwords
Its okay buddy. One day you'll even have thoughts of your own
>>83770270
t. Gisnep intern
>>83770270
>not knowing Marvel's formula by now
smdh
>>83770320
>Marvel's formula
Making good capeshit?
>>83770270
Enjoy you cookie cutter movies made for children
>>83770422
>superhero movies
>not inherently for children
>>83769988
Poor 1.jpg
Don't worry, it's going to be another success, will make more than X-Men Apocalypse and Suicide Watch.
>>83770422
Fine I'll be the guy to do it.
The problem with Snyders DC movies is that they are not made with children in mind at all.
>>83770512
No, Snyder's movies aren't made for anyone at all.
It's gonna be Ant-Man tier. Alright movie who's fun to watch but forgettable two days after viewing.
What I'm curious about is that they will surely put a cameo from a character we know to properly introduce Strange to the MCU (like they did with Ant-Man). I'm wondering who it's gonna be and how they will do it.
>>83770694
Wanda?
>>83770694
>The Doctor Strange movie is Spider-Man Fever
>>83770522
They wouldn't have such a potent defense force if they were made for no one. There are things I like about them.
>>83771497
They have such a potent defense force because they have DC characters in them.
>>83771517
As a general DC fan, I'm not on the defense force. I see the NOT MUH side being a lot larger and louder then the defenders.
Also who is Mads Mikkelsen playing?
>>83771640
Bad guy, according to some leaks, he's a student who thinks Strange is full of shit and goes full retard.
>>83771659
That's pretty contradictory to what Feige has said:
>Marvel Studios president and Doctor Strange producer Kevin Feige elaborates further. “We will take audiences through sort of a guide to the multiverse, other dimensions, and there are amazing things out there — wonders that are going to be hopefully visually extremely interesting and unique to this movie,” he says. “But there are also very scary things in these other dimensions.” According to Feige, is the job of sorcerers like Strange and The Ancient One, played by Tilda Swinton, to protect humanity from such “scary things.”
>So, where does Mikkelsen’s antagonist fit in, exactly? “Mads’ character is a sorcerer who breaks off into his own sect,” says the Marvel Studios boss. “[He] believes that the Ancient One is just protecting her own power base and that the world may be better off if we were to allow some of these other things through.”
>Although Broussard and Feige are happy to talk about the nature of Mikkelsen’s role, they are not, at present, revealing the actual name of his character. “I’ve seen lots of names thrown around,” says Broussard. “No one has quite picked the name that we’ve chosen for him. It would be fun to conceal that, if we can.”
>>83770512
They just take their subject matter seriously, which apparently adults are unable to do because they can't get past the costumes.
Of the things wrong with BvS, tone is not one of them.
Man, you remember the GotG hype threads? Those were some good hype threads. As a Dr. Strange fan, I'm a little sad /co/ can't seem to muster the same enthusiasm for him.
After reading Christopher Bird's articles on Strange, I'm very hype. Hopefully, they go full magic.
>>83771776
We only have one thrailer that barely shows anything, and we couldn't get anything from set pics aside from how characters look.
There's just not much to talk about.
>>83771841
Hopefully we get a second trailer in August or something when they have more effects work done. That said, I remember the GotG hype being off the scale after trailer #1.
>>83771777
Bird's articles got me into Strange. They're the fucking best.
>>83771866
Weren't they going to show another trailer at Comicon?
>I remember the GotG hype being off the scale after trailer #1
Yeah, it was the first ''literally-what'' movie the MCU made.
Now we are at a point were a Black Panther or Captain Marvel movie is notstrangeat all.
>>83771761
Being for children doesn't not mean injection of humor.
The tone for Superman is definitely wrong. But it seems Zack doesn't like using him all that much in the first place.
I don't like the design for Tilda Swinton as the Ancient One. It feels like they're trying to understate that the character is female here. >>83771894
This. GOTG was "I can't believe this" and Doctor Strange is kind of a natural progression for the franchise.
>>83771894
They probably will show new footage at Comicon, but I'm betting it'll be con exclusive and not released to the public. At most we'll get a leak, if we're really lucky.
>>83771891
Link?
>>83771967
How's it a natural progression?
>>83772009
Not natural progression, but now Marvel is confident enough to make movies about less known heroes.
>>83772009
Well Strange is kind of a very necessary piece of the Infinity Gauntlet story. Which is Avengers 3.
>>83771988
This is #1, just go back through the pages:
>http://mightygodking.com/category/comics/i-should-write-dr-strange/page/4/
The series of articles is framed as a pitch for writing a Dr. Strange series, but the real purpose is to break down how and why that character and his setting works.
>>83772046
He's not THAT necessary. In the IG comics he mainly just teleported people around. They could find ways around that if they wanted to, or have some other character handle the transportation.
>>83771967
>I don't like the design for Tilda Swinton as the Ancient One. It feels like they're trying to understate that the character is female here.
Actually Marvel deliberately made it clear that they are aiming for androgyny. She isn't really human anyway.
>>83772073
It gave me a completely better view on the character. Heck, it's sort of revitalized my creative juices.
I especially like the more subtle,Eldritch villains he had (like the Invisible prison).
>>83772198
I find that weird. Wasn't the Ancient One always human in the comics? He's just the latest Sorcerer Supreme.
>>83772211
He also does a great job breathing some fresh life into the classic villains. I love the way he frames the Gorathian cultists as being this omnipresent but low level threat that always has the potential to metastasize into something far more dangerous. Provides an excellent way to keep Shuma around as a threat without needing him to show up personally and provides another constant problem Strange has to keep a lid on, illustrating the way he's torn in a thousand directions at once by his duties.
>>83772285
Dr. Strange, as written by Christopher, sounds like a man who never gets a break.
>>83772359
I dunno, Bird wrote some great bits about how Strange decompresses. Like sneaking into Mets games in his astral form.
>>83769988
Noone cares about Buttfuck Cumsnatch anymore, and whitewashing shit isn't gonna help the movie either (couldn't they have made Ancient One played by a Mongolian actor? Mongolians are mostly Tibetan Buddhists so Tibetans wouldn't mind too much, while China has no beef with Mongolia? Or fuck, make him Chinese, even?)
It's gonna be Marvel's first flop in the MCU, I know literally noone excited about this movie - worse, even Dr Strange fans are worried, and normally MCU was riding on fan hype machine as free marketing, to a big degree.
>>83772680
There's not been enough marketing for Dr. Strange yet.
Still, I remember when Antman was widely considered a sure flop. So, there's hope yet.
>>83772680
>this post
Topkek
>>83772680
No one's hyped yet because the Disney marketing machine hasn't started rolling as of now. They'll probably start after the release of Suicide Squad to take away the audience from DC.
They'll take a break after that and start again one month before the movie releases. Come October, you're going to see all billboards and day care centres sporting posters of Cucumbersnatch
>>83769988
This is a very unique level of trolling and/or falseflagging. I'm impressed
>>83772680
>couldn't they have made Ancient One played by a Mongolian actor? Mongolians are mostly Tibetan Buddhists so Tibetans wouldn't mind too much, while China has no beef with Mongolia? Or fuck, make him Chinese, even?
There would be ramifications to make the Ancient one a Tibetan, but making the Ancient one a NON-Tibetan Asian would be just as bad, as that implies that all Asians are the same. And Asians hate that. Going White is the best of a bad situation.
>>83772680
>It's gonna be Marvel's first flop in the MCU, I know literally noone excited about this movie - worse, even Dr Strange fans are worried, and normally MCU was riding on fan hype machine as free marketing, to a big degree.
It's funny as I remember seeing this exact post when it came to Civil War.
Especially the "why aren't they marketing it more? Nobody cares, clearly"
>>83769988
I legitimately expect it to be the best capeshit of the year, possibly even the fabled capekino.
>>83770422
As opposed to for manchildren.
>>83771640
Doctor Druid.
>>83771776
Marvel Cosmic experienced a massive renaissance in the comics less than 10 years ago.
Marvel Mystic has been stone dead for 20.
>>83772103
IIRC he literally revives a few people.
>>83772899
>It's funny as I remember seeing this exact post when it came to Civil War.
And Ant-Man. And Guardians of the Galaxy. And Thor 2.
>No real magic
>Quip quip quip
>Black sidekick
the only good thing about the movie is that a white person took up a chink's role
>>83773237
I don't recall that part. He retrieves Hulk and a few others after the first big battle fails, but only because Thanos didn't actually kill them, just threw them through portals and the like.
>>83772680
You know what.
I'm starting to think that the first flop in the MCU is only going to happen when a movie doesn't get single "first flop in the MCU" post by salty /tv/fags.
Meme magic's learnt reverse psychology.
>>83773281
Thor senpai.
>>83773358
I forget what happened to Thor. Was he the one that got turned to crystal and then smashed?
>people think this movie can fail
>>83773426
Something along those lines yeah.
Strange fixed him up.
>>83773500
KINO
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>>83773500
> implying actors aren't at the mercy of the script and the director
Just look at Waltz in Spectre.
>>83773500
Good actors do not mean good movies. You need to stop with this meme. Thor had Hopkins and Elba and was a massive piece of shit.
>>83773613
>Elba
dude is a tv actor
>>83773500
>M,ads is in Dr. Strange and Rogue One
Who's the husbandofag working at Disney.
>>83770422
>characters made originally dor children
>complain about making movies for children with that characters
>>83773625
So is Kevin Spacey now and (once again) so is Patrick Stewart. Get your 1970s conceptions out of here grandpa.
>>83770694
>Ant-Man tier
So top notch tier? I agree ant man was in the top 3 marvel movies ever made
>>83772221
Not really. He was a place holder for the gods just to allow the next sorcerer supreme
>>83769988
I hate to use the memeno i don'tbut I really do think this will be the kino-est of the recent capekino
Man, I just want to hear BY THE HOARY HOSTS OF HOGGOTH and see cool magic shit
>>83773929
But there have been other Sorcerer Supremes then The Ancient One. The Ancient One's just some kid from Kama-Taj who found some books on magic, studied hard, and ended up getting on the good side of the Vishanti
>>83774413
None that i know of in the comics. And the ancientbone was supreme for nearly a thousand years
>>83769988
I just want my Clea.
>>83769988
I don't think the recasting of the Ancient One will have any impact on the box office but I would have preferred they keep the Ancient One as an old Asian man. It's better to lean into stereotypes and do something interesting with them instead of just avoiding them.
One thing I can be sure of is that because this is a) Feige's pet project and b) the first movie made after Feige fired Marvel publishing from the movies, any box-office under-performance will result in a lot of whispering against Feige. Bleeding Cool is already publishing all kinds of stuff from disgruntled Marvel publishing people who hate him.
>>83774562
Agamotto was the first Sorcerer Supreme.
>>83773803
It was generic garbage and you pretty much outted yourself for being a pleb.
>>83775099
>pleb
We don't use that term around here.
>>83774772
Sequel senpai
>>83775099
It was the first family orientated MCU movie. Everything was about how families try to get along and fail
It was great
>>83774950
Yeah, and there were a number of others. Hiram Shaw was Sorcerer Supreme in the late 1600s, and Salome was the sorceress Supreme back in the 13th century BC. Pretty sure Merlin was Sorcerer Supreme at one point too.
I know that based Giacchino is gonna do the soundtrack, so that's something for me
>>83771776
It's because we know fuck all about the movie so far aside from a very vague outline.
>>83769988
Why is /tv/ such a faggot?
>>83772680
>It's gonna be Marvel's first flop in the MCU
Just like every other new MCU movie right? You guys really need to get better bait.
>>83770522
Hey now, they are made for Snyder.>>83770694
>>83771761
Are you really using that defense for a man who has admitted himself costumes prevent him from taking capes seriously?
>>83775286
Yeah we do.
>>83775729
> family orientated
We didn't even spend time with Lang's ex, the cop guy or Cassie, as they were more background characters. Wright's script delved more into this because how Lang is perceieved by his family is a big part of his character.
The conflict between Pym and his daughter is the babby's first screenplay mistake of something being able to be resolved in 2 minutes if they talked to each other earlier.
>>83772680
>It's gonna be Marvel's first flop in the MCU, I know literally noone excited about this movie - worse, even Guardians of the Galaxy fans are worried, and normally MCU was riding on fan hype machine as free marketing, to a big degree.
>It's gonna be Marvel's first flop in the MCU, I know literally noone excited about this movie - worse, even Ant-Man fans are worried, and normally MCU was riding on fan hype machine as free marketing, to a big degree.
You stupid fucking retard.
>>83776041
People are tired of Cabbagepatch so no one will see this movie outside of drones like you.
>>83776277
Nice dubs, but you're wrong m8.
>>83776251
This.
They know too well how to market these movies.
>>83776228
>Wright's script
Wrong langs family were even more sidelined in his script. When will wright fags stop these lies? He was making a shitty movie face it.
>>83776277
Everyone still loves the actor formerly known as benedict cumberbatch
>>83770244
That quip meme is really stupid.
>>83776404
There was a love triangle between Lang, his ex wife and his former friend the police officier, and he stole the suit for his daughter like in comics. You can google this shit yourself, moviefag.
Also the original verison had more Pym and less time wasted on losers like Falcon Or trying to connect with that awful film Age of Ultron.
>>83776747
>Pym
Who was the villain.
Oh no we lost another shitty love triangle. Good
>>83776425
> into darkness was a critical and commerical failure
> tumblr turned on him after saying "colored actors" Istead of "actors of color"
That's two big demographics down the drain.
>>83770694
I wouldn't say Ant-Man's forgettable now. He has the whole ants gimmick thing, which was initially thought of as ridiculous by casuals and kids, but people seem to like the gimmick now due to CW. Thor isn't forgettable as a character, but he has the most forgettable movies and moms only flock to them because of Hemsworth.
>>83776747
Also instead of being a tight 4 man crew with Louis being a proper supporting character, it was like a 10 man crew and none of them had more than one or two each.
>>83776854
Pym was not a villian. Nano warrior, a new character, was the antagonist.
How hyprocritical and sheep-like of you to regurgitate some lie you read on /co/ and then accuse me of lying. Typical moviefag stupidity.
Also, a love triangle written by good writers like Wright and Cornish is a hell of a lot better than comic book concepts written by hacks at Disney. But then again Wright and Cornish have proven they make the best genre films being made today.
>>83776954
Like when tumblrinas turned on chris evans and jeremy renner for calling black widow a slut? That sure fucked those guys over.
>>83776277
This is so wrong, jesus christ. I'm not even a fan of him, but Sherlock has amassed him fans in Asia. I'm sure as shit the international market will flock to the movies just to watch him.
>>83776954
I hope you seriously do not believe those two things you listed will affect his career.
>>83777308
>But then again Wright and Cornish have proven they make the best genre films being made today.
no his movies suck
whether pym was the nano warrior or not is unclear, but it would have been shit either way. also wright was going to make Pym a terrible person, so no, I don't want that. fuck off
>>83777560
You're a dumbass who doesn't realize Mr. Tumblrbait isn't a huge box office draw. You can say people will see the film because it's from Marvel, but not because of the lead.
It's the same falacy people have with Hemsworth and Pine, and Hollywood wonders why their non-franchise films bomb like the Hindenburg.
>>83771734
Well, the Ancient One and the sorcerer community did cover-up Chaos Magic and ended up believing their own bullshit.
Mikkelsen's sorcerer finding out about that would lead to a breakaway sect and the permanent fracture of the sorcerer community.
Either that or, as is more likely, some Infinity Stone wank.
>>83777290
His character sucked so it not like we would have lost anything. He's Darcy tier
Plus why does Paul fucking Rudd need comedic relief in the first place
>>83771967
Swinton excels at playing androgynous characters. The idea is that the AO is beyond
The AO may well be portrayed as fallible; "she" either dies or passes the title of SS to Strange because she fucked up.
>>83773189
Doctor Strange, Scarlet Witch, and Carnage, are the only Marvel comics that deal with the mystical.
>>83773237
Him saving Scarlet Witch may be a much more important plot point of IW than in the comics; to ruse Thanos into thinking his biggest obstacle is gone at the end of Part 1, so they still have a chance of stopping him.
>>83776954
The problem with Into Darkness was that it was Into Reference, Cumberbatch's character should have been an OC, not Khan.
Wrath of Khan is such a perfect movie that imitating it is fucking suicide.
>>83777345
They said that around Ultron and Disney said the box office was a disapointment.
>>83779096
Yeah, and it was because of tumblrinas.
I doubt any superhero movie will ever make Avengers money.
Hell, look at the previous movies' box office.
>Iron Man 1: 450 million
>TFA: 360 million
>Thor: 450 million
>IM2: 500 million
And suddenly Avengers makes 1.5 billion.
That happened because it was a one time thing, the first team up ever.
No movie now gets that status of novelty.
>>83777703
> no his movies suck
Nice argument. But you'll defend Peyton "Bring it On" Reed because he made a turd with your favorite red logo over it.
> but wether pym was nano warrior
It's pretty clear he's not nano warrior when Wright's Ant-Man was a team up heist film between Pym and Lang. I have no clue where this rumor of Pym being evil in the Wright/Cornish draft even comes from outside of /co/'s butthole.
Provide proof, drone.
>>83779096
Except for all of the film ahead of the Avengers on the top gross list.
>>83769988
Not much, we've barely seen anything.
>>83779937
We've seen enough to know that it sucks
>>83780559
sure whatever
>>83779937
>>83780559
I feel like this exchange is 4chan in a nutshell.
After Ant-Man, I'm not worried about any future Marvel film. I will say, I hope that Magic becomes a big part of the Marvel U.
Speaking of, anyone find it funny how minor Asgard has become?
>>83781096
Because of earth shit
>>83773189
This movie could change that
>>83774813
>Bleeding Cool is already publishing all kinds of stuff from disgruntled Marvel publishing people who hate him
Links?
but Magic is boring though.
>>83783254
Kys
