Good evening owls of /co/,
Boomerbutt time
Yes more Boomer
Bloody ripper
>>83755434
love these credits
>>83755434
So sales in general are pretty underwhelming when they're posted all at once >>83743234
the DCYou ones made me die on the inside because I forgot how bad they are
> 3. Punisher (2016) #1 (MAR) - 110,726
>>83755501
Omega Men sold like shit but by God Dog, it was consistent shit to the end
>>83755538
I really hope the trade does well ;_;
everything is horrible and awful. escape with comics time
>>83755535
>Captain America: Steve Rogers (2016) #1 (MAR) - 99,767
>>83755538
Oh, this was to weep:
>Big Bang Comics @TheBigBang_ 3h3 hours ago THUNDERBOLTS #2, 60% first week, with a few people emailing afterwards to cancel the standing order for it. Ok...
>>83755486
>Palmer made his secret identity known when he abandoned civilization to join an alien race of miniature beings in the jungles of South America.
COMICS!also the only good Atom story
>>83755575
I never would have predicted Cap #1 not breaking 100k
>>83755434
Hello Storyteller.
>Flashback
No. Bad John. Bad.
>>83755538
>>83755501
>Later when asked why Omega Men did not sell better, he replied “the crappy writing.” (His more serious answer cited the non-conventional cover art and his mistaken assumption that everyone would have read the 8 page preview before picking up the first issue)
>>83755582
>WONDER WOMAN REBIRTH #1 did 800% more that pre-Rebirth numbers. Think that was Rucka and team's mike drop, so to speak.
at least they had good news too
>>83755596
Well, with subsequent printings it technically will
Also I'm wondering how hard the FalCap book is going to drop now that everyone is only paying attention to Steve
>>83755582
Also interesting:
>The trailers were out and we couldn't keep DEADPOOL books in stock. The movie came out and... no one cared any more?
Another retailer's said the same thing with Civil War--you have to get your tie-in/coattails shit in BEFORE the movie comes out, not after.
>>83755594
has that been digitaled yet?
>>83755621
>AQUAMAN REBIRTH #1 sold out and you KNOW how hard that is for Aquaman. 400% more than pre-Rebirth numbers.
nice
>>83755622
there will probably crossovers so they're forced to buy it
>>83755605
Omega Men was pitched at a niche audience with both characters and theme, it would have had to be a breakout hit to sell well (it was never going to be a breakout hit).
>>83755635
I'm hoping the Deadshot and Katana minis sell well in trades cause they were pretty good and I'd like them to get more attention
And the trades comes out like right around the movie
>>83755635
I guess that makes sense. People who want to be knowledgeable before the movie comes out and all. Once you've seen it you don't always feel like you need more.
>>83755501
Those sales seem low for Civil War, or am I being dumb?
>>83755635
speaking of Civil War
>NEW AVENGERS #12, 61% first week. Turns out, it being a tie-in to CIVIL WAR 2 actually cost it readers this issue.
>Another retailer's said the same thing with Civil War--you have to get your tie-in/coattails shit in BEFORE the movie comes out, not after.
The Big Bang guy said that on a podcast, he said the Suicide Squad trades have been selling real well
>>83755538
I am so fucking mad that my Vision Dog name didn't make the Vision Dog page.
0/10, will only buy one Omega Men
>>83755622
The thing to look for is if it gets a bump, and if so how much, and then how much the dropoff is.
>>83755635
>has that been digitaled yet?
Yes power of the atom
and Sword of the Atom (1983)
>>83755635
I like this issue because it's the closest Boomer comes to being a sympathetic character.And he's still massive cunt
>>83755635
I have no idea. i would assume so cause it's one of his big stories
fucking identity crisis ruining comics and my qualifiers
>>83755703
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>>83755691
how are you owls today?
I've been walking on air, some Good Stuff happened that'll be a lot of work but worth it.
>>83755685
>The Big Bang guy said that on a podcast, he said the Suicide Squad trades have been selling real well
This feels like an anomaly, but hoshit am I happy that some people are buying good comics
Like, as long as he's talking about Osty, not Glass
>>83755683
It's a #0 issue but yeah, I figured it would be 200k minimum, since it came out the same month as the movie.
#1 will probably sell more, but I'm hoping that the leaks killed interest in the event
>>83755724
Pretty good
>>83755696
I'll have to look for that, then
>>83755724
YAY OP
Final Fantasy 5 4JF started, I'm on chaos rules, so all jobs are full-random and if you have no usable jobs on the first crystal you have to stay unclassed
MY FIRST JOB IS GEOMANCER
FROM THE THIRD CRYSTAL
GEOMANCER IS TERRIBLE
>>83755724
>I've been walking on air, some Good Stuff happened that'll be a lot of work but worth it.
that's good to hear, I'm happy for you OP
>>83755733
>Like, as long as he's talking about Osty, not GlassI'm guessing it's both. HOPING it's both. You know Glass is moving because of Harley at the very least
>>83755724
Is this to do with the Work? Congrats regardless
>>83755765
oh no!
I should dig out my copy of FF5, that one is super fun and I've never done 4JF before
>>83755765
D: D: D:
I haven't played FF5 in so long
>>83755685
>he said the Suicide Squad trades have been selling real well
>Suicide Squad v1: Kicked in the Teeth (DC) - 1,430 { 31097 }
>New Suicide Squad v1: Pure Insanity (DC) - 878 { 12144 }
>Suicide Squad v2: Basilisk Rising (DC) - 582 { 13166 }
>Suicide Squad v3: Death Is for Suckers (DC) - 429 { 7297 }
That they are
>>83755764
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>>83755724
Pretty good, got called into work on my day off but it's cool because I need the hours and I was off by 2.
Also I finally got The Binding of Isaac to work on my PC again and I just killed Mega Satan, so that's nice.
>>83755785
Not directly, but it does have to do with my particular area of expertise
>>83755724
v depressed about the news/world but onward
downloaded and started the gba fire emblem bc of these threads, fun so far
>>83755805
>nuskawd
absoultlydisguesting.jpeg
>>83755733
see
>>83755805
Seeley Squad is one of the best of new 52 but it'll probably sell the worst since the trade coems out after the movie and it's the last volume ;_;
>>83755724
>How are you owls today?
Fine-ish. Fuck this damnable heat.
>>83755794
Yo, do it, I'll be your moral support. Just do regular rules: http://fourjobfiesta.com/
I was lukewarm to FF5 until I did 4JF, but the game is SO well-balanced that I appreciate the hell out of it after last year's run. I beat Neo Exdeath with zero mages, by Chemist throwing level potions at a Monk with Rapid Fire (8x hits) and abusing the damage formula. IT'S SO GOOD
>>83755820
TY
userscloud: trying to spam you with ads since forever
So apparently E3 has been going on?
>>83755844
There are some writers I'd really like to see on the squad. Rob Williams, I'm iffy. He did this suicide squad-y thing before with a superhero apocalypse setting and I hope it isn't that, again, because the squad isn't that grim. But apparently his Martian Manhunter was v. good?
>>83755835
the news has been very hard the past few days.
>>83755685
>NEW AVENGERS #12, 61% first week. Turns out, it being a tie-in to CIVIL WAR 2 actually cost it readers this issue.
yes
YES
YESSSSSSSSSS
I feel bad for retailers for getting it and people not buying it but fuck I want an event to fail for once. Especially a cash grabby one like CW2.
>>83755916
i was thinking about getting an xbox 1 for overwatch since i don't know if I can upgrade my laptop (literally or know how to do it) and i'm fucking furious about that new console
>>83755935
>>83755916
>see E3
>think "Earth-3"
Comics have ruined my life, I did this like a week ago when Nintendo tweeted about Kirby and I thought about Jack first
>>83755902
http://pastebin.com/BTs2e0cX
Alternative tusfiles
>>83755969
Dumb thing to be furious about IMO.
>>83755973
Same
>tfw no earth 3 book
I need more villains
>>83755971
so there's an upgraded PS4 coming out? so someone like me who hasn't bought a console since the PS2 should wait a bit longer?
>>83755969
Eh, I'm thinking of bowing out of the console raceand going full PC
>>83755969
I'm in the same boat with Overwatch, only I just bought a PS4. I want to play it on PC since that's what all my friends have it on, but I'm fairly certain it won't run it worth a shit.
>>83756015
>>83755764
Captain Boomerang is natural psychopath, since free will cannot be excused for anything but outright coercion.
That said, his dad needlessly being an asshole to him did not help. He might've found a more constructive outlet for these tendencies with a more positive upbringing.
>>83755916
That's nice. Video games are more or less dead to me though.
>>83756015
Well, depends on what you want to play and where. The nuPS4 is gonna cost the most, the old one might tier down. But PS4 is NOT backwards-compatible with PS3, so you may want to spreadsheet out what you wanna buy and go from there.
>>83755994
well internet hyperbole but still, who announces a price cut & new version of hardware and then 90 minutes later announces what's gonna make that obsolete?
>>83756048
haha! i don't have that problem bc no friends;_;
>>83755596
I was at a repair training session and when some guy saw me reading a comic on my phone, he immediately asked "YO DID CAPTAIN AMERICA REALLY TURN EVIL?!" and everyone in the room yelled that they had heard about it, and I tried to explain what I knew but I don't really read much Marvel now so
>>83755434
Heyhey, welcome back.
Is this a Digger dream sequence issue, or is that "moments before the Flash revives and defeats Captain Boomerang" shot?
>>83756109
>MIND CONTROL, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT
is probably the most casual-friendly answer, even though it's not 100% accurate
>>83755899
huh, can't find my GBA copy but turns out I bought the ios version at some point
I will give it a shot!
>>83755724
My day started off with a dog having explosive ravioli diarrhea in the back of my car, and then having to leave it in the hot Southern sun for several hours while I worked. The poopy, not the dog.
But I'm working again so I can't complain.
>>83756076
/o\
>>83756130
I'm lucky that most of my friends seem to have some basic critical thinking skills. Even my totally casual friends who know Marvel more through movies than comics basically went "it's obviously mind control or something, why's everyone so worked up?"
>>83755486
I miss when some superheroes had no secret identity.
Wally West being someone everyone knew was the Flash was another thing that made him really distinct compared to other heroes (especially Barry) and Johns inventing the One More Day reset button to get out of it stinks.
>>83756072
>Video games are more or less dead to me though.
Still some things worth looking forward to.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=iObwq1WaxQ8
>>83756183
>and then having to leave it in the hot Southern sun for several hours while I worked
I cannot imagine how horrible that smelled afterwards
>>83756183
oh my god, I am so sorry. I know what doggie issues like that are like.
lots of baking soda is my best suggestion
Word Balloon did a John Ostrander interview btw think it was to plug Duster Hex but still.
haven't listened yet
>>83755703
First time reading it but it's good (and kind of brutal) because:
1) It lets you see why Boomer considers himself a success
2) You can't help think that contextually - as pathetic as Boomer is - he kind of IS a success for his background
Just shit like his outfit originating here >>83756186 is goofy, but also really fraught with a horrible kind of small-town and family loyalty. It says a little bit that Boomer knows how much of a fuck-up he is, even though he never typically acts that out.
>>83756232
>>83755594
Hey man, Tangent Atom was also okay.
>>83756267
>>83756254
Boomer in this whole run is a masterful combination of goofy and genuine malice and treat, along with some heroism mostly but not only despite himself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPkHZfjK5z4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L29DSSQT3Ek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBaGnwCnzQY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJsha_16yrc
God damn Prey is cursed 1998 trailer, 2012 version cancelled and now 2017
>>83756146
IOS has some version differences (glitches patched, mostly), but the mechanics are really, really similar and 90% or more of the strats will still work. It's a very good port under the hood, no matter how ugly the spritework is.
>http://pastebin.com/t15Emfpa
>>83756254
i'm rereading it and this time i find it heartbreaking.
>>83756303
that should be 'threat', there
hey, what's out Wednesday?
>>83756309
A couple of my mates were really excited for Prey, but have absolutely no idea what it actually is.
>>83756340
Batman, GL, and Green Arrow 1s
Titans and Superman Rebirth
Civil War 2 and some tie ins
other stuff???
Sandman Mystery Theater repreints
>>83756315
If I find my GBA copy I'll switch to that but I don't want to use an emulator so iOS it is
thanks for the links
>>83756340
New issue of Manifest Destiny, which I'm excited about
All-Star Section 8
and they're reprinting Sandman Mystery Theatre.
>>83756371
>Superman Rebirth
That came out two weeks ago, #1 is this week
I am super down for the SMT reprints
>>83756371
>>83756375
Are we ever gonna get the last trade/s?
>>83756340
>implying Boomerbutt isn't a treat
>>83756340
#1s for Batman, GLs, GA, and Superman
And Titans Rebirth for Wally
It feels so weird to have another issue of something out when the last one came out not that long ago
>>83756340
;___;
>>83756341
A pretty underrated game staring a Native American. started development on 1995 cancelled various times and released in 2006. surprise it sold, well. Same thing happen to sequel started development in 2008 cancelled in 2012 and now released in 2017.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yen7UVKTWC0
>>83756443
FFFFFFFFFFF-
>>83756405
>That came out two weeks ago, #1 is this week
speaking of that, it's crazy how all the Rebirth issues are still on the top 20 on comixology when they came out that long ago
DCU Rebirth even more impressive since it came out 3 weeks ago
>>83756428
>It feels so weird to have another issue of something out when the last one came out not that long ago
I'm looking forward to how the double shipping pans out
I can't really keep up with weeklies but a month sometimes seems too long, so I hope the double shipping is good/sustainable
https://twitter.com/juaneferreyra/status/742452281543688192
His art is so pretty.
>>83755703
>>83756254
Reminds me of Order of the Stick's prequel comic, Start of Darkness. The author outright explains that it's a little difficult to lay out a villain's backstory without making them somewhat sympathetic.
>>83756452
>>83756294
>Tangent
Tangent Wonder Woman was adorable!
Diana/Wanda team up when?
>>83756126
I'm hoping for "Shenanigans lead to the Suicide Squad being sent to rescue Flash"
It'd explain Digger's slightly bewildered expression.
>>83756492
It really is, though I'll give credit to Ostrander because despite all this, I don't sympathize with Boomer. You get the feeling that he could've had a great upbringing and still been a bastard. Truth be told, I kind of prefer him that way.
>>83756490
dat Canary!
>>83756472
Yeah I hope double shipping doesn't bring down sales too much and I hope it doesn't stress artists out
I wanna know how long they're gonna keep up the double shipping if it does work
They can't have as many titles if the A listers are hogging up some spots and money
>>83755486
I fucking love when they do the Newpaper credits.
>>83756492
I think you could maybe take a shot at a Captain Boomerang argument that his villainy is rooted in him only thinking about the small things.
>>83756490
>>83756514
Here we go with an arc I suspect no one has the balls to write today, either
>>83756527
Yeah, which makes it really work imo
>>83756547
>They can't have as many titles if the A listers are hogging up some spots and money
I think DC would be perfectly ok with A-listers hogging all the money
I mean even if double shipping dips sales per issue a lot they're making up for it by putting the product out more often, and even issues of Batman or Wonder Woman that are performing a little below expected are still going to outsell any given book with a C-lister
>>83756584
>>83756514
I just feel bad for his mom desu. Even at the end they're looking for validation from her, like they took everything she had.
>>83756584
>pol's collective orgasm.jpg
>>83756643
That was on Sunday.
>>83756602
>>83756371
>Sandman Mystery Theater repreints
Time to spend money
>>83756598
But I don't want A listers hogging up all the spots. ;_;
Looking up older solicits was painful because like 70% of DC was Batman and Superman.
We're lucky to have so little of those titles now and more obscure titles.
>>83756676
whoops
>>83756514
I like how with all this drama unfolding, Floyd remains unable to give a shit. Dude looks like he's watching a really boring episode of Maury.
>>83756527
Digger has been portrayed as total scum throughout the entire run, which probably helps.
>>83756697
err, how close are any pyramids to Cairo proper?
>>83756697
This is Kobra in one page right here.
>>83756689
Whenever I'm about to get salty about the Batfootprint, I look back to the pre-nu52 era. And then I feel okay.
As long as they're subsidizing like five things I like, it's cool.
>>83756726
>>83756726
aren't they like right next to super urban areas? like you can eat mcdonalds in the shadows
>>83756761
>>83756726
doh I made the same mistake Ostrander/the artist/the editor did!
>>83756750
Same
Sometimes I get salty about how many books the Batfam gets but then I remember it can and has been worse and all the Batstuff is how things like Omega Men or Gotham by Midnight squeak by
>>83756584
>Here we go with an arc I suspect no one has the balls to write today, either
Hm.
Out of curiosity, do you think it would be possible to write a story about a group of Jewish(and that's in the ethnic sense, not religious) mercenaries without getting hate for evoking the greedy Jew stereotype, even if the characters themselves are not particularly money-obsessed?
>>83756757
time for superheroes related to Jewish legends/history!
>>83756761
oh, huh, Giza is actually pretty close to Cairo. good on the artist for research, then--as opposed to 99% of Eiffel Tower shots
> Giza Pyramid Complex is located about 18 kms away from Downtown Cairo across the Nile River.
>>83756792
And we get nontraditional Batbooks like Gotham Central, Gotham Academy, and Gotham by MidnightMakes me wish for nontraditional books for other characters too
>>83756814
>>83756598
Problem is DC only knows what's good by listening to the critical community, and most of the critical community still mostly talk about the latest overhyped garbage, Marvel's crummy girl comics, and when they do talk DC's obscure titles it's for minority stuff like Midnighter, which deserves it, but other series do too.
My favorite run of the New 52 is Valentine's Catwoman and like fucking nobody cared about it and now she's not getting any of the attention she deserves for it. At least King hit it big with Grayson and Vision at the same time, but I don't hear anyone talk about Omega Men outside of this thread.
>>83756814
Judith better cut somebody's fucking head off here.
>>83756839
the Metropolis setting is just begging for some off the beaten path ancillary books
>>83756814
...All of the Egypt geography I know, I learned from Jojo
>>83756852
I'd take Valentine on the Skwad for sure.
>>83756842
>that jewish computer joke
lol
>>83756864
I wonder if DC would do a Science Police book before a Legion one
>>83756839
>>83756864
>tfw no Daily Planet book
>>83756839
Does Omega Men count as nontraditional GL? I still want a Wire-esque crime GLC book
>>83756898
Some sort of science police origin comic could be fun.
>>83756800
You'll get hate no matter what you do.
The trick is to write what you want and feel is right, and don't pay attention to complainers.
Though of course this has the unfortunate side effect of allowing people to write unintentionally offensive stuff without getting criticism, but I'd rather have good stuff AND bad stuff than nothing controversial at all.
>>83756340
Something's gone terribly awry when Boomerang is the least unpleasant person in a group.
>>83756443
Oh damn.
>>83756452
OH DAMN
>>83756814
Non-American capes are always welcome.
>Golem
Naturally.
>that description for Ramban
Someone's proud of their research~
>>83756584
It's funny, Kobra has a lot of history (created in 1977 in his own series) and a pedigree (a Kirby creation) but he never really works, does he?
>>83756912
I want that so bad
Them reporting on shit happening in the DCU, doing any hero shit without needing Superman's help, more of Clark when he's not Superman, etc
>>83756864
>tightie-whities
I am so very, very sleepy. It's disgustingly hot outside.
>>83756864
>tfw Ravan is totally dying this arc but he keeps being delightful right through the end
>>83756864
oh shit son
>>83756864
We've had Gotham Central, I wanna see a book about Metropolis police. It'd be more like Robocop than GC's CSI, of course. But plenty of inter-office drama.
And where's the Jimmy Olsen getting into fucking insane situations book? It'd be neat to take the idea of the original book and apply it to the more realistic setting of the modern DCU.
>>83756957
>Janissary
>Mameluke
I'm not sure they would name EVERYTHING historically, y'know.
Late to storytime, but I'm blaming this on account of being very depressed and sad and angry and scared about the world from yesterday and shit.
But, comics'll do me some kind of good.
>>83756999
>And where's the Jimmy Olsen getting into fucking insane situations book?
We got that briefly with Nick Spencer.
>>83756999
>And where's the Jimmy Olsen getting into fucking insane situations book? It'd be neat to take the idea of the original book and apply it to the more realistic setting of the modern DCU.
Wasn't Spencer's Jimmy backups kind of like that? I remember some aliens who got drunk off oxygen came to Earth to party
>>83757030
have a hug and come chill with us
>>83757064
Huh, that portrait of the Ayatollah suggests Hezbollah-related
>>83757030
It's tough, but we'll be here, and you can say whatever you need to.
>>83757040
>>83757057
that was (probably still is) my favorite Spencer stuff. and brought best Other DC Media girl into proper canon
>>83756999
http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Metropolis_S.C.U._Vol_1
Just a mini, but it's there.
>>83757094
>>83756712
Nobody's got a poker face like Floyd. Impossible to tell HOW much of a damn he cares about anything by looking at his face.
I think on some level though, he is an idealist, his rant at the end of William Hell Overture and his loyalty to Amanda shows that.
>>83757103
I'm on that knife edge of being terrified and itching for a fight if I hear some motherfucker popping off about "fags" and "trannies" while I'm around town. Not a great place to be!
Taking my mind off it, seeing Civil War 2 sales do poorly does the mind and heart good. Eat shit you lazy goddamn hacks.
>>83756930
It's a difficult line to walk. You have to ignore the Weekend Warriors that get pissed off at every minor thing they read and flame on twitter about it, but you have to acknowledge more constructive criticism too. The writers that seem to do it best are the ones that ignore social media for the most part and manage to keep their egos in check.
>>83756992
huh, that piece of technology is very interesting to show in a book that also debuted Oracle
>>83757040
How did I not know about this?
>>83757135
Floyd is an idealist who's so frightened of being disappointed in the world (or disappointing it) again that he'd rather destroy himself than try.
>>83756992
WHOA. Y-you alright, Ben? Goddamn.
>>83756930
Yeah, I suppose. Though frankly, I'm more afraid of being accused of being ans SJW or some such nonsense. Really, the progressives would likely praise me since honestly how many Jewish heroes(anti or otherwise) are there?
>>83757161
they were backups I think
>>83757154
...maybe it malfunctions and turns Ravan into a vegetable and that's why he's only in this one book
he's got that eggplant skin, yo
>>83757129
>>83757149
And if you're really nervous on something, pony up a little cash to pay someone with expertise to read for you, and then you'll have feedback from at least one informed angle.
>>83757145
>Taking my mind off it, seeing Civil War 2 sales do poorly does the mind and heart good. Eat shit you lazy goddamn hacks.
You gotta wait until #1 sales to say that cause #0s don't typically do as well as #1s
Some other event of marvel had a #0 issue and it sold less than the #1
>>83757197
>>83756800
The simple answer is: They can't be the only jewish characters in the cast. Preferably, you don't also only have one jewish hero. It's like when you have one trans character and oops, they're the homicidal villain. You didn't mean to do that, exactly, but...
Ostrander's earned a lot of benefit of the doubt over the years, but I wouldn't give it to first time writers, especially ones who aren't jewish. Show me you got the chops, and if you get criticism, don't act like a putz. Just say you're listening, at the least, it goes a very long way.
>>83756948
I always like it when they make foreign meta-human black ops teams, and don't just kill them off immediately.
One of the reasons I was interested in Spurriers X-Force was that it set the X-Force as the Mutant Mossad of sorts and had them dealing with other countries secret, meta-human teams.
>>83756950
I really like the idea of Kobra, but their aren't a lot of satisfying pay-offs with him are their?
Like, I really liked his appearance in Young Justice, because he just smacked everyone down then left, but then he only showed up in the tie-in comic.
>>83757197
>Storyteller subtly shills her new business
>>83757220
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
>>83757030
Here's the thing anon. Bad shit happens, and it can get overwhelming.
And you can either dwell on the bad shit, or you can look for the good things. It's difficult, but it helps.
>>83757253
>boomer actually feels bad, if only for the consequences
deadshot smoking in an airport is the weirdest thing here
i guess will won't light up in the movie
>>83757135
I liked during Blackest Night when the Emotion-Vision thing showed Floyd as a black, black void with thin cracks of emotion showing through.
>>83757184
You'll always either be called an SJW by /co/ or a racist by Twitter, there's no in-between. Those are useless terms so don't worry about people who use them.
There will be people who'd know what you're actually going for and praise or criticize you accordingly.
There's a lot of people who are more interested in posturing about the how much of a good person or red pilled person they are for reading or not reading a comic than actually reading the comic, so they're not your audience in the first place.
>>83757249
I'd be happy to read something and edit for a little cash, although I'm probably a better non-fiction editor than fiction.
but mostly it's about the recognition that reading to comment is work, and should be treated accordingly when it's something that's not going to circulate in a purely fannish economy
>>83757295
Why not? It's not like Deadshot's a role model or anything.
>>83757277
I am a queer living in a country and a state with rising reactionary violence and people calling for my marginalization and my death, as well as those very dear to me. It's rising in my state, and in others, and it's a very very real fear, this isn't abstracts we're talking about. Trans shit especially. Shit's bad out there.
I understand and appreciate what you're trying to get across here, but I've never seen this kinda "You had a bad day, take one down, sing a sad song" approach do me or anyone else in my kinda circumstances any good. Comes off condescending as hell, honestly.
Not to bite your head off or anything, but keep it in mind for when others are talking this shit.
I'll stop here, because I don't wanna derail the thread.
>>83757313
just how movies are nowadays. i wouldn't be upset usually but i like how it's a nice subtle touch to show his death wish that also makes him look cool
>>83757224
>They can't be the only jewish characters in the cast.
They're not. But I get what you mean. I ought to practice and prove that I can avoid the bullshit before trying something more gutsy.
>>83757230
It's always interesting to see how other countries would treat their capes. Russia and China of course have their capes almost exclusively as government agents, for example.
>>83757378
I fucking loved the Great 10, it's a shame their mini was never completed.
>>83757378
There's a hell of a lot of room for vigilante capes in comics in Russia and China.
>>83757312
>>83757308
with a Jewish/Israeli thing the lines of who yells at you about what get more marked up and crossed too. cause the issue is that stupid complicated.
this story arc is making me wanna go finish reading that Guy Delisle Jerusalem storytime
>>83757378
we're getting Chinese Justice League in Super-Man
>>83757405
I would read a Steve Orlando/Artyom Trakhanov Russian capes comic, damn
>>83757496
(all will be explained about this Atom in due time)
>>83757346
noted and understood, anon
>>83755685
I want CW2 to be the Convergence of Marvel. Would force them to change shit up in a meaningful way if it fails.
>>83757517
I would 100% have read anything involving Nate interacting with the Squad
>>83757532
>>83757496
i know becdel test and shit but I love this scene of them talking in the downtime
>>83757346
Feel alright about talking about it, though. Real life is real life, and it's the crappy kinds of people want people to shut up and sit down and pretend nothing happened.
It sucks and I'm with you. Sometimes it's like, "fuck, if you're such a badass then just kill me right here in the streets," and sometimes ya'll just want to dig a hole and bury yourself in it.
>>83757532
Why would you want to inflict that on poor pure Nate ;_;
>>83757524
That would be great
And awkward considering how books are getting 4+ tie ins issues
>>83757308
This is true. I guess it's kinda like Yelp reviews, in that you gotta filter out the obvious bullshit, and only acknowledge the comments that are actually giving constructive criticism.
>>83757441
Ugh, that reminds me, I gotta do some extensive research on Israel at some point. Knowing your shit goes a long way to not looking like an ignorant prick.
>>83757560
because we make the ones we love suffer--it's totally the clash of styles, and powersets, and everything.
hold onto your asses, owls, it's time for these pages
>>83757587
>matchbox
WATCH OUT, SON, IT'S GOT YOUR NAME ON IT
>>83757587
I love small world shit, get hype.
>>83757524
Ha yeah that'd be good
They're already going back to their most successful relaunch with Marvel Nower so I think they're already feeling something.
i don't remember cap atom making kobra explode?
>>83757567
i remember an interview with gail simone talking about how important knowing your stuff was. i think her example was like a vacation to Hong Kong and it made her realize just how off she was in writing about it.
good luck with that research
>>83757587
what a cover. i thought the atom stuff was right at the end but we still got a ways to go
>>83757587
>>83757587
>Shrinking superhero has to fight giant insects
This shit never gets old.
>>83757567
And I sympathize with writers who have to either filter through thousands upon thousands of trash comments, or get off social media altogether and have no way of conversing with fans at all.
And the alternative is to get a forum like Byrne that just becomes either a personal echo chamber or full of unintelligible fanboys.
I wish I could get a chance to talk to my favorite writers and give them real feedback, but I'm pissing in the ocean.
>>83757553
>They did what israelis always do
You killed some kids with missiles?
>>83757632
THESE PAGES
FINALLY
>>83757632
Dayum, Ivy.
>>83757666
dat look
he mad
>>83757688
Nice, nice
>>83757632
Some very oily, very attractive people there.
>>83757688
Multiple-choice /d/ Ivy is best Ivy
>>83757688
>>83757688
Is femdom /d/?
>>83757632
We all talk about when Poison Ivy stopped being just a femme fatale and started being an ecoterrorist, but when did she stop being brunette and start being a redhead?
>>83757726
i think with the mind control stuff here puts it there
>>83757716
absolutely!
>>83757726
it's mind control, it's inherently /d/
>>83757726
It is when you're using mind control.
>>83757726
Femdom AND hypno.
>>83757737
giving an AI this much control could never go badly
>>83757688
So...this is rape, right?
>>83757757
Not at all!
>>83757726
It's my kind of /d/
>>83757632
>>83757688
Pamela, pls.
So one assumes the Ivy League rather enjoys this part of her character, yes? The one thing we can all agree on.
>>83757688
Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYYTLJ8YHi4
>>83757730
I think she's always been a redhead.
Her next cover appearance the same year has her against a white background which very clearly shows red hair.
>>83757774
Fandom would usually put it into the category of 'noncon' (it's a step beyond dubcon) given that it's not something actually possible in the real world, but the issues raised are analogous
>>83756519
Honestly I think the only real misteps they made with Tangent were the Justice League and Superman, and not just because Superman was Mark Millar.
Justice League failed in the basic premise of a universe that was intentionally distinct from the mainline, and Superman led to the dreadful Superman's Reign series that functionally wasted the entire universe.
>>83757793
I'm pretty sure there's a section of Ivy fans that accepts her as exclusively lesbian, and only ever involved with men for some sort of scheme.
>>83757774
0% consensual and 100% immoral, but not rape until sex organs get involved. And I don't think she ever says anyone's junk came to the party.
>>83757793
Oh no, this is their beloved Ivy being a self-centered hedonistic basically rapist, they want to bury this
>>83757774
Of course not! It's only a man being put through it.
>>83757795
You fucked up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78C80s2-30g
>>83756602
Briscoe! You're alive!
>>83757801
Definitely red compared to the brunette in the background.
>>83757807
what's boomer talking about
>>83757737
Of Course Israel makes a sentient computer program who's entire job is to be a damn Big Brother figure.
Wonder if Waller ever got around to securing Ifrit's loyalties for occasions like this.
>>83757793
Goodness no.
They wouldn't like this at all.
>>83757833
Oh no! He's gonna pull an evil Kirk with this AI !
>>83757855
The first issue in this thread kind of covers it.
>>83757833
COVER DON'T LIE
>>83756676
>The Age of Chaos
>yfw Bush Jr. foreign policy played into the hand of Kobra's plans to usher in Kali-Yuga
>>83757833
>shrinking hero
>hiding in wall
>still gets caught
Shit Atom, yo.
>>83757891
>>83757883
No he says they were gonna miss the luggage regardless of taking the flight. did i miss a page where it got like put on the wrong plane by the airline goofing
>>83757910
>>83757932
Dayum, Vixen.
>>83757932
uhoh
>>83756757
The grey tone they use for 'brown' skin in this series is... weird.
This proves it isn't just Ravan being a one-off Grey dude, and it's just kinda odd. Like a greayscale comic getting colourized but missing certain characters.
>>83757955
the female flat-top never loked so good
well, okay, grace jones. but hers is shaved different
>>83757988
it's a weird choice; you know, lemme pull an old scans page here to compare
