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Superman #1 and Titans: Rebirth #1 Previews
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Superman within.
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>>83746753

>CBR being that sometimes stupid with watermarks
>watermarking this one variant
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Titans without.

Interview (the unlettered versions of all but the last preview page): http://comicvine.gamespot.com/articles/dan-abnett-and-brett-booth-talk-wally-west-and-bri/1100-155653/
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>>83746793
>Dick is still stuck with the shit Robin costume

Fucking change it to something better already jesus
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>>83746854

Variant

FIN
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>>83746862
Thank you
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>>83746753
I'm twice as hooked as I was before...
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>>83746854
>what the hell, Wally?
>Wally?
I know it's cliche but I dig it.
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>>83746753
Neat
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>>83746835
Did Forever Evil and Grayson never happen now?
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>>83747000
It did but expect it to be ignored by everybody but Seeley/Nightwing and maybe the Birds of Prey book
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>>83747000
Yes. The New52 still happened
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>>83746716
>>83746727
>>83746737
>>83746753
off to a good start
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>>83747005
Everything looks pretty good but that's going to be annoying.
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>>83746820
>>83746806
I don't get it. Wally comes from the Pre-Flashpoint universe but he's getting memories from the Post-Flashpoint timeline.
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>>83746862
>Polynesian Aqualad
Sure why not.
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>>83747005
>>83747000
At the end of Grayson Spyral used a satellite to make everyone forget Dick Grayson. Helana modified it to not affect Dick's closest friends. Wally literally didn't exist at the time so it didn't affect him either.
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>>83747108
Explained during the DCU Rebirth oneshot. He remembers the pre-flashpoint universe. But also has the 'memories' that were stolen from the post-flashpoint world
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So is Superman the Superdad book and Action is Jurgens doing his thing?
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>>83747000
>>83747005
It's not being ignored. They explained at the end of Grayson Helena made it so that most of the world wouldn't know Dick's identity.
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>>83746820
>>83746835
>>83746854

it's weird how much of a rehash/leaning on that one Johns arc of Wally's this is. The one when he One More Day'd his secret ID after Zoom

and goddamn the ear wing things in that first page are huge. like 90s Batears
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>Gleason
Fuck yeah
>Tomasi
Fuck off
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>>83747322

>Doesn't like Tomasi & Gleason

?????
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>>83746753
Gleason make that costume looks good

>>83746854
>Wally zaps people to make them remember him
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>>83746753
>>83746737
>that bright yellow S
THANK YOU BASED GLEASON
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>>83746862
Aqualad's like
"My feet hurt"
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>>83747153
Will the Grayson Annual count as the real finale or is that just gonna be a normal bonus story?
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>>83746727
>Even drawing Superman, Gleason needs to find a way to put everything in shadows
Who's ready for the whole run to take place in large fire-lit cave?
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>>83746806
>Every second we had together was gift

nice callback to the Rebirth special
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>>83747153
>At the end of Grayson
>>83747270
>at the end of Grayson

Fuck I'm behind, thnx
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>>83746753
Alright, it's been a while - is that showing the MoS origin or Birthright?
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>>83747557

Golden and Silver Age origin, for some reason.
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Was it ever explained how pre-flash point Superman is here in the first place?
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>>83747775
I know the main convergence book suck. Here
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>>83747108
Its the same reason barry memories of both pre flashpoint and flashpoint were replaced. The new timeline overwrites tge old one their mind
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>>83746753
Well this definitely alleviates some of my concerns
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>>83747805
>a instant

God this book was awful

They still don't have a cohesive answer to what the ending meant, do they?
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>>83746737
I have a boner now. Thanks OP!
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>>83747443
Apparently it's going to transition Helena into Huntress for BoP.
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>>83747887

i think maybe it's saying is they went back to try and stop the Crisis but then until we get another Barry and Kara somewhere it went like it went anyway?
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>>83747345
Tomasi is okay writer and his Superman work is very shaky
His crossover was the most mediocre and blah crossover we've gotten so far
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>>83747153
>>83747270
Wait so is it forgetting Dick or forgetting that Dick was Nightwing
I stopped caring after Seeley and King left but this seems like important info
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>>83746793
>this ugly Dick Robin costume

ENOUGH.jpg
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Booth didn't look as bad here. I mean it's still ugly but tolerably so.
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Brett Booth posted some Wildstorm art on twitter. and that is actually perfect for his talents. jump ships!!

plz don't be the bad guys in Titans
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>>83747887
Convergence was a mess. They truly don't know what the fuck happened at the end and now they are just ingoring it completely. As should we all.
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>>83747204
>he is going to remember Post-Flashpoint universe from now on

What a shitty cop-out. Johns talked about how he wanted to "break the wall" that separated Pre-Flashpoint from Post-Flashpoint and everyone thought they were bringing back the old continuity based on the fact that Wally remembered it all. But now they're still sticking with the same shitty New 52 continuity.
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>>83749126
Now imagine Dalhouse's colors. God.
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>>83749182
So it's like that thing that happened with Wally a years ago?
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>>83746862
why did they never add Kid Flash here? that sucks since I don't want to touch Brett Booth's regular cover with a 10 ft pole
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>>83749338
it got revealed before the WAlly reveal I think
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>>83749243
His pencils looks good but why the fuck doesn't he ask DC for a better colorist? Can any of you art anons try and color this just to see his art colored but with no Dalhouse coloring
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>>83749426
I think he likes Dalhouse or something
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>>83749221
Elements of Pre-Flashpoint mainly the relationships between characters are coming back
>Green Arrow + Black Canary
>'Classic' BOP
>Titans
>90's Bat-faggotry in'Tec
>WW villians and allies

You would have to be literally retarded to think they were dropping the New52 continuity. It's the foundation for most of their books
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>>83749221
Wally remembers some stuff like that he used to be married
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>>83746862
Korro?
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>>83746862
>delicious brown Garth
If they did that on the inside I would actually care about him for more than two seconds
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I'm excited for Superman. I'm actually not familiar with the old Teen Titans at all really, so I won't be picking it up. Also don't care for the art. I'll probably still read the storytimes like I did for Titans Hunt though, even if most of the characters besides Nightwing and Wally are completely foreign to me.
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>>83749463
>It's the foundation for most of their books
>Nuperman died and it's being replaced by Pre-Flashpoint Superman
>Wonder Woman is recovering her Pre-Flashpoint history
>Batman pretty much continued from Pre-Flashpoint as did Green Lantern
>Swamp Thing and Animal Man take the old continuity into account

Almost everything else was shit except for some titles like Omega Men or Midnighter that don't depend on previous continuity. The most important things happened in Justice League. Nobody cared for anything else since they pretty much fucked up everything, including the entire Titans story. Literally nothing would be lost if they brought back Pre-Flashpoint history for those characters.

They're trying to have their cake and eat it, just like they did with New 52. Doing things in a half assed way.
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>>83749221
Wait two years. They literally set-up the entire "10 years have been missing from the timeline" in Rebirth and now again in this. It's obvious that those 10 missing years are going to be recovered in whatever event they're preparing.
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>>83749697
It is the foundation of most books.

The Death of New52 Supes is the catalyst for the Superline

Wonder Woman is confronting the inconsistencies of all her origins

Green Lantern launching a title with both of New52 additions to the GLC

Flash still has Best!Wally being KF

Batbooks are all continuing storylines and beats from the New52.

Justice League has everyone on edge thanks to the Post-Crisis Supes showing up

They aren't ignoring the New52 at all.
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>>83749463
Roy Heroin.
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>>83750324
>Roy x Smack
Best relationship in comics a close second would be
>Roy x Dead cat
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>>83750475
Deadcat and armless roy can stay behind.
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>>83749221
Literally no one thought that. It's been clear that connections will be reestablished in new 52 form.
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>>83746835
Was Dick really his best friend out of all of them? I can't remember the last time I read a Titans book, so the details escape me.
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>>83751517
More or less, yeah
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>>83748068
I'm still bitter over this. What a downgrade.
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>>83751517
yeah they were pretty gay, had a couple of team up issues
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>>83749426
Here's some not Dalhouse colors
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>>83751517
When they're actually written together and show up in the same book, yes.
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>>83751876
That's good other than those disgusting thighs.
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>>83746830
I think his version might actually be the worst of them all now, though personally I don't like Daman's new one either.
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>>83751876
so to make booth's art good you have to ignore the thighs, cover up the faces, and give him non-dalhouse coloring
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>>83746767
He looks dashing as fuck.
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>>83751879
>>83751517

Dick was best man at Wally's wedding
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>>83749221
The new 52 is the pre flashpoint universe -10 years. That's why he has memories of post flashpoint while coming from pre flashpoint. They would be the same thing if Manhattan hadn't meddled with it.
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>>83746767
no trunks?
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So Titans hunt takes place after the events of grayson or are there 2 versions (pre and post flashpoint) of dick in the universe now?
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>>83746716
Just by the thumbnail this looks like a bad start
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Why is Gleason so fucking good
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>>83752553
Nah Titan's hunt takes place during Grayson, he just switches to his nightwing costume because of nostalgia and hoping it would trigger more memories.
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>>83746716
>>83746727
>>83746737
>>83746753
>just the preview
>already ware three pages with basically nothing
Yeah, this is going to be shite. But seeing the response towards Action Comics, I'm sure the post-crisisfags will eat it up
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>>83752768
There are people who haven't read any of Tomasi's Superman stuff but think he's good because of GL and Batman. They'll learn soon enough how wrong they are.

Sad state that the main two Superbooks are in right now. At least the side books seem promising.
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>>83747350
>Wally zaps people to make them remember him

Don't forget the Speed Force is what gave Barry flashbacks to Flashpoint and let him remember Wally too.

It's like the Speed Force recognizes that the current universe is stagnating and is trying to spark a change.
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>>83746778
This Titans preview should have been its own thread, or at least the OP image. You fucked up, OP.
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>>83750049
That goes without saying. But they can ignore those bullshit "5 years" between JL Origin and the start of New 52. They don't neccessarily have to ignore what happened recently.
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>>83751264
>Literally no one thought that. It's been clear that connections will be reestablished in new 52 form.


>"10 years have been missing"

Anon please, it's pretty obvious they're getting those 10 years back. Otherwise they wouldn't set up all that shit. Johns talked about how they wanted to "break the wall between Pre-Flashpoint and Post-Flashpoint" in regards to development and characterization that the characters had previous to New 52. He wants to estabilish that this is the same universe. Rebirth was only the beginning of that.
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>>83752349
Which brings the question:

Is this Wally Pre-Flashpoint Wally who got lost into the Speed Force before Flashpoint and now the universe is finding a way to "re-insertate" him into the Post-Flashpoint continuity and thus gave him those fake memories of him existing alongside the Titans?

Or is this New 52 Wally who was lost into the Speed Force when he was with the Titans and then regained his Pre-Flashpoint memories while he was there?
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>>83753731
On twitter a while ago Booth said his lightning was white for a reason too that would be too spoilery to elaborate on so it's likely important beyond just speed force

>>83753906
Yeah this, I don't give a shit about Superman.
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>>83755422
>Is this Wally Pre-Flashpoint Wally who got lost into the Speed Force before Flashpoint and now the universe is finding a way to "re-insertate" him into the Post-Flashpoint continuity and thus gave him those fake memories of him existing alongside the Titans?

Seems like it's clearly this to me. Just the way everything was narrated in the Rebirth special suggested he was from pre-Flashpoint (he even noted that it was weird that he was younger) and he didn't get his new 52 memories until later on.
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>>83755370
>Anon please, it's pretty obvious they're getting those 10 years back.
They're not going to do a 10 year timeskip or go back to the old continuity.
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>>83756055
No, they're tearing that brick wall down, and uploading those 10 years as backstory again.
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>>83755874
But that also brings the question as to why is he younger and is using the Kid Flash costume. If he wasn't affected by the Manhattan wave. That should accomodate to the second theory.
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>>83756463
I don't agree with your logic. If you can accept he naturally got new 52 memories why can't you accept that he got a new 52 body along with it?
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>>83756055
>they're not going to back to the old continuity

This much denial. It's obvious how much they're backpedaling HARD. Slowly but surely they will start referencing more and more old stuff and eventually the old continuity will be back. They have already started with Pre-Flashpoint Superman coming back, Wally remembering the Pre-Flashpoint universe, Wonder Woman regaining his entire history and Green Arrow referencing that time Roy was a junkie
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>>83756507
Because if he escaped the Manhattan wave he shouldn't have a New 52 body until he entered the New 52 timeline
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>>83756674
We may just have to agree to disagree then. I don't see why his body shouldn't adjust like his memories did.
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>>83756642
They're throwing a few bones.
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>>83756642
They really aren't doing as much as you think. It's like Infinite Crisis where they retconned some old stuff in.
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>>83746713
>tomasi/gleason
HYPE AS FUCK
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>>83746778
>booth
kill me
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>>83746806
>>83746793
why are they drawing Dick's costume like tim's?
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>>83746862
Donna's new costume is fucking great
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>>83757729
Dick was given pants for his original costume in the New 52.
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>>83757729
I wish they drew it like Tim's new Red Robin costume because that costume is actually good whereas Dick's is shit.
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>>83756991
>Believing this shit

Of course they're going to say New 52 was a financial success, because it was. But all it was good for was for a quick buck that was unsustainable with time. They shat over the entire DCU and now they have to pick up the pieces and fix it again. Except for a some good titles the entire New 52 was fucking shit. They destroyed the DCU lore and legacy. Look at what they did with the JSA, Blue Beetle, Booster Gold, Tim's generation and a fuckton of other characters.
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>>83756991
Note how he says FINANCIAL failure.

Creatively it was horrible. Rebirth is basically them saying "sorry, we know we fucked up DC"
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>>83761785
They should have used the Young Justice Robin costume with green leggings instead of black.
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>>83762125

>Rebirth is basically them saying "sorry, we know we fucked up DC"

yeah i'm not trusting them until we're a few months in
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>>83762048
Tim's generation was damaged long before the new 52.
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