How powerful is wonder woman? Could she beat Superman? If not could she hold her own for a while?
She is in that upper tier of characters who could beat him without a major asspull but I think he is stronger and should usually win.
Superman is slightly more powerful and can take more of a beating, but WW is a better trained and experienced fighter
Superman is obviously stronger.
>New 52 Batman's contingency plan
>>83612763
Supes is stronger, but Wondy is an actual and knows technique as a fighter. In a straight contest, I think WW would beat Supes.
>>83612763
Superman can fly around the world in a split second, lift planets, has frost breath and laser eyes, but he'd still lose to her because she has sword training and stuff.
>>83612918
Superman has no technique.
>>83612763
>Could she beat Superman?
of course, what kind of a questions is that? are you a misogynistic pig?
She beat the entire Justice League once before, so...
>>83613562
W R O N G
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he's trained with masters on several occasions, and learnt some sort of Krypton-Fu
this probably didn't happen in the Nu52 though
I don't really know
>How powerful is wonder woman?
She's not a planet buster, but she's as anti-unit as you get before you go into big villains territory. She could potentialy grapple with Mongul and Doomsday for a while, just not forever
>Could she beat Superman?
Well, she's possibly the world's greatest warrior. If she has access to all her magical weapons as well and Superman doesn't just hax it out, then I suppose
>If not could she hold her own for a while?
Oh, definitely.
>>83613549
haha, dammit
i read that as frost eyes and laser breath
something i figure that silver age supes would have had anyway
Could she beat Batman, though?
>>83613562
He falls into that same pitfall as Wolverine. Both have plenty of training, but when they get pissed, they both fall back on swinging wildly and just tanking the hits they take as a result.
>>83614437
I don't even see what bat man could plan ahead for her if she wanted him dead.
>>83614491
He beats up the bad guys and doesn't afraid of anything!
Superman doesn't need to be trained to fight like humans, it's retarded. The guy knows his own powers intimately as fuck and is clever as shit with him. If he relied on brute force he wouldn't beat half the fucks he does.
>>83614491
>Doubting Batpotence
>>83614665
Shh, anon. Let WW have something.
Plus, Supes is trained. Batman trained him and he has decades of experience.
>>83614491
Y'know, that got me thinking about Justice League: Doom where Mirror Master steals Batsy's contingency plans. I think they end up drugging her, and she ends up seeing everyone as Cheeta and spergs out on them. ...Was Batman's plan really just to trick her into wailing on a bunch of civilians?
>>83614716
>Batman trained him and he has decades of experience.
I get that, I'm just saying Superman doesn't need to have martial arts training. Pa Kent taught him to box or something, that's all he really needs.
I'm not saying Wonder Woman can't beat Superman, that had nothing to do with the rest of my post.
>>83613562
You must be a writer for DC.
>>83613562
nor style
>>83613562
Neither do 85% of the guys that Superheroes lose to
>>83614775
>Superman doesn't need to have martial arts training.
There are plenty of people as physically strong or even stronger than Superman in DC. Having training really helps when one of those guys drops on Earth for whatever the current event is.
I can lift more than my own weight but I've never been taught how to fight, never even thrown a punch before. So if I got into something I could get my ass handed to me by someone that can't lift nearly as much.
>>83614772
Maybe it was to see an indestructible mannequin as Cheetah and sperg out on in and keep wailing on it for years but they modified it so she sees civilians.
>>83614845
These days that's just each other.
I feel like a lot of people, even comic readers, aren't fully aware of how strong Wonder Woman really is.
That being said I'd say she could beat him if she got the drop on him, but in a drawn out fight. Eventually Supes would win out.
>>83614864
I'm not talking about de-powered fights, I'm talking about beating villains with a clever combination of knowing how to use his powers and environment to his advantage. Once superpowers are in the mix it's an entirely different game.
>>83614929
When did I mention depowered fights?
>>83614969
Having martial arts training would be more beneficial if you got depowered. While powered up that shit wouldn't matter. Guys with superpowers aren't going to fight like two guys without them. It's a boring approach to superheroic clashes when they do that.
>>83615003
>Guys with superpowers aren't going to fight like two guys without them.
Okay, find me two guys with superpowers and have them fight to see what it looks like. I'll wait.
>>83614491
Well, unlike Superman, Wonder Woman can be shot or stabbed, right? That's why she uses the bracers, Right? I think if Batman didn't mind maiming her, he could whip up a weapon to stop her.
>>83615175
WW's weapons could harm Supes
>>83615175
Your casual is showing.
>>83615175
Like a Bat BMG?
>>83615175
There is literally nothing Batman can do to stop her. The best plan he could come up with to stop Wonder Woman is Superman. Idiot.
>>83612763
Supes is faster, stronger and more versatile.
Wondy only upperhand is her training and she better hopes she has magic weapons or she is good as dead.
>A single blood drop of Supes hit one of her magic swords so hard it crack it.
Wonder Woman's superpower is, essentially, being the Greek Demigod of Winning Fights. What Herakles is to "being strong" Diana is to "kicking anyone's ass in a close combat fight."
She has the strength and speed of Greek gods, which puts her slightly below some interpretations of Superman. Essentially it depends on context. Superman can lift more, and punch harder. They're about even in terms of speed. Wonder Woman wins in any kind of formal fight, battle or street brawl.
In a sentence: Clark wins an arm wrestle but Diana wins an actual wrestle.
>>83615266
She's not invulnerable. If she was, she would just stand there and tank hits like Superman. But she doesn't; she uses shields or her bracelets.
I hate these threads because they just remind how no one on /co/ actually reads comics anymore.
>>83613549
Wonder Woman is as fast as he is (near lightspeed).
Is immune to heat/fire.
And he has a weakness to magic, which she has weapons made incorporating on her person.
>>83615374
No one is 'invulnerable.' If Superman was invulnerable, Doomsday wouldn't have punched him to death.
>>83615323
What are you being so defensive for, faggot?
>>83615331
From what we have seen, Superman could wreck WW, but it would require wanting to rip her apart and Superman is too nice for that. It's the same thing as Superman vs Batman.
Superman loses against them because he holds back, mind controlled Superman tends to win because he just breaks them and doesn't hold back.
>>83615432
Not defensive, just frustrated that too many people here don't actually know what they're talking about.
>>83615433
That still fits the Greek hero paradigm, since he can only beat her temporarily while a villain.
WW essentially has Greek Plot Armour.
>>83615427
She isn't as fast as Superman, not nearly even close to that fast. I don't remember her being immune to fire/heat.
Also stop saying Superman is weak to magic, he just doesn't have immunities. WW's tiara that functions as a chakram could cut him up and her lasso could bind him, but her bracers that are just magically durable won't suddenly break his bones.
>>83615431
I'm talking about the superpower "invulnerability". As in real world weapons won't hurt. Examples are Hulk and Superman.
>>83615374
Her durability is always wonky. Against blunt force, it's amazing, but falters to punctures.
She can survive a hit from Superman, but a spear he's holding can be shoved into her.
But, she trades that for a complete immunity to fire/hear (at least, pre-52).
But, truth is: raw Power goes to superman. Skill (and other details) give Wonder WOman an edge.
>>83615175
>he could whip
That might actually stop her, but only because she's into it.
>>83615433
There was that time where Maxwell Lord controlled Superman to think she was Doomsday and had just killed Lois.
She survived that. But only just (she wasn't fighting to kill either, though she did use her tiara to slice his throat--lightly to distract him)
>>83615516
And Wonder Woman. You'd know that if you actually read comics. She can be punched half way across the solar system and shrug it off, and you think you could kill her with a pocket knife just because she has a shield sometimes? You're pretty fucking stupid.
>>83615175
I thought she was bulletproof. Like she could tank gunshots, she just prefers not to, hence the bracers. But I'm pretty sure she can be cut.
Does she beat Thor?
>>83615598
I read comics. And you're the fucking stupid one if you seriously thought I meant a fucking pocket knife.
>>83615503
Ah, so you've never read a wonder woman comic?
When Wonder Woman (pre-52) was created, Hestia gave her 'Sisterhood with Fire, so it may open hearts'. This worked two fold, it acted as a charisma buff, and it gave her immunity to fire/heat.
This was demonstrated in an OMAC project tie in where she dove into molten iron and waited for the OMAC to leave so as not to cause more collateral damage.
Also, she got her speed from Hermes. Ya know, god of speed? Yeah. When asked who was faster between her and the Superman, Batman answered: "Who's faster: Ussain Bolt or Bruce Lee?"
See this from a quick google.
Also, the lasso is much worse, and the bracers are the Aegis of Zeus, which means they are an effective "NO SELL" against attacks.
Also, she hates necks. What can you do with a rope and a neck, eh?
>>83615323
I don't even read Batbooks and I know that he had a contingency for her, which worked, in Endgame.
>>83612763
Not in Supes' level, but still one of the heaviest hitters hero wise.
>>83615611
She's bulletproof and anyone who tells you otherwise can't cite a counter example that isn't from thirty years ago .
>>83614674
what happened with this shit?
batman with metrons chair should be its all over tier for anyone with an evil thought in their head
>>83615611
Isn't there a comic where she blocks bullets with the bracers because bullets to the chest just makes her boobs jiggle?
>>83613562
He does, but he generally becomes just another brawler when he's mad.
>>83615705
Then you haven't read Justice League where Batman says plain as day 'I've got nothing'
>>83615703
Muscle memory doesn't allow for prediction.
>>83615705
Seems like >>83615323
Has only read Nu52 stuff.
>>83615743
Is this bitch trying to use literal fanart here?
>>83615729
>>83615762
Well then I guess someone should decide which era of Wonder Woman is being talked about in this thread.
>>83615794
Meh, I thought it was just funny to mention.
>>83615771
Looks like.
>>83615743
>>83615794
I need to see this.
>>83615810
Then someone is just going to come in and talk about the time Superman sneezed and destroyed a solar system.
>>83615763
. . . That's not what's being said. She's not predicting, she's reacting faster and using her greater experience to her advantage.
Experience can allow for prediction against an inexperienced opponent.
>>83615844
FOUND IT!
>>83615703
>What can you do with a rope and a neck, eh?
Lynch
>>83615845
Ah, the Silver Age . . .
>>83615763
this, pure speed should trump at all times over anything less than that speed. its a wonder how flash loses at all since he is so fast that he should see and react to anything and everything that happens around him favorably at all times. but since its comics and it would also be boring, he has to lose in some way.
Apparently Felicity can beat her by hacking and causing an explosion near her to beat her. But that's from someone who doesn't know Wonder Woman well.
Why because it's not about combat. Didn't wonder woman survive a nuke or somethin?
>>83615703
>faster in raw speed
That means he's faster. Come on, now.
>>83615845
it was also dead and supes knew where and how fast he needed to fly to it in time to sneeze
>>83615925
I've read very little Flash, but can't he only think/react at super speed for a limited time? It tires him out or something?
>>83613562
No, it depends on the writer.
They usually nerf him.
>>83613562
Scroll down to skill, then look in the mirror and yourself a faggot. https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/3ovxvl/respect_superman_complete_postcrisis/
>>83612763
i dont think she is solar powered like superman so fake red sunlight would weaken him. batman pulled it off 1 time in a fight with superman
and she might be distantly related to kryptonians but she is weaker than superman so kryptonite probably at worse gives her temporarily motion sickness not what looks like ebola while in range
in a fair fight no. superman has eye lazers and is he sneezed she would be flung into another state
>>83616151
How high are you right now?
>>83616151
wut?
>>83612763
>How powerful is wonder woman?
Near-Superman-tier, capable of pitched battles against Superman-level entities, makes up for power gap with divine arsenal and a lifetime of training and combat conditioning
>Could she beat Superman? If not could she hold her own for a while?
She could hold her own if Superman was holding back and not determined to put her down. Infamously, an enraged mind-controlled Superman forced her to resort to lethal force on both Superman and his controller, and for Superman it slowed him down for a few moments at best.
Didn't she become the God of War or something, pre-Rebirth? Also something about her bracers being power limiters.
>>83612893
>>83612918
wonder woman has no issue with killing this is her sole advantage if she is given a weapon that can harm super man its over for him.
>>83616830
To politely nitpick that in case others get the wrong idea, she has no issue with killing the way Captain America has no issue with killing. She's still a super-hero. She's just a soldier archetype so using lethal weapons and killing without hesitation when it is absolutely necessary is completely in character.
>>83616676
Yes, she was God of War. Before that she was the God of Truth.
And yes, the bravers contain her power. That dates back to the golden age.
>>83612763
Depends on the incarnation. Clay Wonder Woman? About the same tier as Superman but somewhat weaker. Child of Hercules Wonder Woman? No idea, didn't read Earth 1. Child of Zeus Wonder Woman? Definitely more powerful if her bracelets were off.
>>83616910
you make a good point and agree. there is a difference in fighting to win and fighting to kill.
>>83613549
Well getting stabbed by magic god weapons can pretty much kill anyone that doesn't have some ridiculously op healing factor.
>>83615703
Unfortunately this scan is 100% meaningless when Superman has absolutely obliterated her on numerous occasions and clearly demonstrated to be faster than her in every measure.
We can even ignore the times that Wonder Woman has openly acknowledged that she could never beat Superman in combat.
>>83616086
>Go to reddit
>>83615703
This is stupid as hell, this is stupid on the level of Deathstroke almost killing The Flash by just holding a sword out and having Flash run onto it.
Superman moves super fast, his reflexes, reactions, and etc are all faster than a normal human.
>Who is faster? Bruce Lee or Ussain Bolt?
Well neither of them could catch a bullet, because that is on a different scale.
>>83615925
We don't talk about flash but one of the reasons why pre52 Diana could react fast enough was due to the eyes of Athena which let her see all things
>>83615503
>Also stop saying Superman is weak to magic, he just doesn't have immunities
>No immunity to magic
>Not weak to magic
>Magic being one of the key elements that can easily bypass his invulnerability
>Not a weakness
You fucking stupid?
>>83617298
Weakness is different from a lack of immunity. Superman is weak to Kryptonite, he loses his powers. Martian Manhunter is sometimes weak to fire, and loses his abilities. In both situations they start to die and can literally do nothing against these forces.
Magic isn't a weakness, he just has no immunities. If you magically make lightning it won't hurt him because the magic is creating lightning and his immunities come into play. If you magically make a hammer heavy it won't suddenly break Superman as if he had glass bones. If you use a spell to turn him into a frog it would affect him like any other person.
There are a few stories of Superman overcoming magic spells because the spells can be broken by strong will and etc, and because Superman isn't WEAK to magic he can overcome it just like any other strong willed mortal being.
>>83616830
>wonder woman has no issue with killing
get out
>>83617449
See, I didn't think superman was immune to punches I just thought he was really tough. Somebody should tell all these guys punching Superman that he got the punch vaccine and they should try some prestidigitation instead.
>>83617620
We got a SJW here, you can tell because whenever someone counters them with a solid argument they immediately try to spin things to sidetrack the entire conversation.
Go back to fem frequency and tumblr you nu-male git.
>>83617156
Citations Needed.
>>83617188
No, anon, your post is the stupid.
It shows a level of understanding usually reserved for lesser primates, and humans in induced comas.
Simply, it is because you are making an assumption that the difference between Diana and Clark must be one of Orders of Magnitude rather than anything else, for reasons you have yet to state.
>>83617483
>>83612763
She has te power of porn.
>>83616623
And boner.
>>83617449
To put the Superman vs. Magic into D&D terms, because let's face it, we're at maximum geek right now, it's been wonky.
One way to look at it is he has normal saves against spells. Alternatiely, he has high stats, but he cannot use bonuses to Saves beyond a certain point against Spells (IE: Just a regular person to magic). Another is that he has DR/Magic or Kryptonite.
I've seen both cases applied to Superman in multiple incarnations. Diana has access to both -- one in the Lasso of Truth (which can show someone the truth of themselves and other mind-screw stuff), and the other is in her associated Amazonian weapons. Be it the Tiara (which, again, cut his throat once), or the full sword and battle armor from Kingdom Come.
Diana's swords are capable of splitting Atoms (once causing an atomic explosion in the nu52) or "Shaving the electrons off an atom' for the Kingdom Come one.
So, we're talking about a pretty rediculous weapon already, before the DR/AC stuff happens.
>>83617449
>If you magically make a hammer heavy it won't suddenly break Superman as if he had glass bones
>>83615880
Kek
>>83618094
In D&D terms, all of the heroes have special classes and racials that give epic bonuses to different things and grant special abilities. Superman has damage reduction 100/magic damage and has huge bonuses to all of his saves with the * that he loses these bonuses against direct spells, but not from evocation spells that don't deal magic damage.
Superman still has his bonuses from having a high wis, int, con, and cha score and being really high level, but he doesn't have the +100 from his kryptonian racials. Magic Missiles would deal more damage to him than a lightning bolt or meteor swarm.
>>83614491
>>83618470
Batwanking at its finest, nothing to see here.
>>83612763
Magic is one of supes weakness so she could kick is ass if she wanted to try
>>83618506
From the story arc where batman holds superman at bay with a kryptonite ring in an fairly improbable fight. In fact, one of the most OP batman showings in the last decade.
>>83612763
I don't know. Depends on what "could" mean. I think a few people "could" beat Superman given certain conditions. But I'd say its doubtful that she'd win if Superman had some strong incentive not to let her win. I wouldn't take injustice as being indicative of the fight. The fight when Maxwell Lord controlled Superman was probably more indicative. The longer the fight goes the worse her chances get at a faster and faster rate.
>>83618506
Alien detected
>>83617298
>retards still don't get that no defense =/= weakness
hurr durrr batman is weak to magic because magic effects him!!!11111 Normal people are weak to magic because it effects them as well!!!!1111 ZOMG
>>83612763
Is E1 WW as whore as Sasha Grey?
>>83618716
>Superman invulnerable to nearly everything with exception to magic, kryptonite and red sun radiation
>magic is totally not a weakness guys!
>>83618793
You drooling retard. Superman has as much resistance to magic as a normal person on the street does.
If you shot a magic missile at superman it would do exactly the same amount of damage as if you hit a normal person. The magic wont suddenly become 100x stronger just because it hit superman.
>>83617863
Not that guy, but contrarianism and nitpicking is basically the heart and soul of 4chan.
>>83618880
are you trying to imply the average civilian ISN'T weak to a magic missile through the chest?
Post more WW
>>83618949
what
I'm saying magic works on superman but he isn't especially weak to it like mos idiots seem to think.
Magic will work on superman like it would work on any random person.
idk if supes and diana have ever fought in the comics or not, but there was one episode of the Justice League cartoon where both of them are tricked by an illusion into thinking the other one is an evil monster of some sort, and they fight.
https://youtu.be/cHQxnjMpBsg
>>83618793
Kryptonite and red suns strip Supes of his powers, and the Kryptonite goes further and incapacitates him.
His weakness to magic is simply that he doesn't have a special defense against it. If Zatanna pulls a rabbit out of a hat he doesn't lose his ability to fly because there's magic in the air. If she saws a woman in half, he doesn't collapse like he would for any of his other "weaknesses."
No one denies that Supes is weak to magic, it's just that it isn't comparable to his other weaknesses. It works differently, more passively.
>>83617863
>Jokes== SJW
>Muh arguments
Sound like you need a safe space bruv. Want I should tuck you in?
>>83618391
so what, is that because a lightning bolt or meteors are a kind of natural magic, ie pulling from nature or the surroundings and magic missiles being something ethereal or otherworldly, outside the bounds of nature?
>>83618305
>komisch
that is a special hammer. Made of magical invulnerability and magical like planet lifting strength. That is they don't yield.
They just hit his biological invulnerable shield and it had more to give than the magical shield.
Probably b/c the author needed it too, but I thnk the author feels that mgaic doesn't have a break point, it either is on or is not.
>Wonder woman's weakness is bondage and unbreakable necks
>>83619070
I think it's more like if you magically create lightning, sure you used magic to create it artificially, but once you've done it it's just lightning, and Superman can tank it. But if I'm interpreting "magic missile" correctly, we're talking about something that has an actual magic effect.
>>83612763
THICC
>>83618956
>>83619136
>unbreakable necks
Is this a thing in DC?
>>83619307
I hope they drop the cape for rebirth ww soon.
>>83618880
You fucking retarded? If Superman is invulnerable to nearly everything with exception to magic, that is a weakness. If magic can bypass what is usually the norm to him, it is a weakness.
I will even make it easily for a fucking retard such as yourself to understand, Superman has 100 HP and 100 Damage Reduction. Superman is hit by a punch that does 25 Damage. Superman's 100 Damage Reduction reducted the damage to - 75 Damage and thus no damage is done to Superman. Superman is hit by a fireball that does 50 Damage. Superman's 100 Damage Reduction reduced the damage to - 50 Damage and thus no damage is done to Superman. Superman is hit by a magic fireball that does 75 Damage. Superman's 100 Damage Reduction fails to reduced the damage. Superman's receives 75 Damage and is left with 25 HP.
Under normal conditions, Superman's damage reduction, aka his invulnerability would had reduced the damage that he received. But magic bypass this and deals direct damage to him.
>>83619070
>>83619180
Magic Missile is a magic spell that creates a piercing beam of magical energy that homes in and pierces the target.
The fact that is is a magical energy designed to damage a person is why it would hurt Superman.
Lightning Bolt creates a bolt of lightning that you can control. The magic is in the origin of the lightning and the ability to direct it, but the lightning bolt itself is just pure electricity.
If you hit Superman with Mjolnir, it wouldn't negate his invulnerabilities because Mjolnir's magic is in the abilities it gives its wielder and in making it super heavy for those not worthy. A sword like Excalibur that is magically sharp and cuts through things would cut Superman, not because he is weak but because he isn't strong against it. It would hurt him like it would hurt anyone else.
If you had a magical spell that only kills evil people, it wouldn't kill Superman, because he isn't evil. The spell treats him like any normal being, figures out that he isn't evil and just leaves him be.
>>83619748
>If you had a magical spell that only kills evil people, it wouldn't kill Superman, because he isn't evil.
>>83612763
In a straight up fight where he can't just throw her ass into the sun? WW wins.
But theyre superheroes not MMA fighters so Diana would be totally owned
>>83619733
DC is very specific about weaknesses. In DC a weakness is something that negates or removes a person's powers. Kryptonite is a weakness because it strips him of his powers and starts to kill him. Vampires are weak to the Sun because being it kills them, werewolves are weak to silver because it inflicts damage that they can't heal from or heal at a very slow rate, and etc.
Also you are wrong in your example, a magical fireball wouldn't bypass his DR because the magic created the fire, but it is normal fire. A spell like Ray of Enfeeblement, Tasha's Hideous Laughter, or Otto's Irresistable Dance would bypass his invulnerabilities, but he would still get a saving throw with his basic bonuses from having high wis, con, dex, and cha.
>>83619805
Yeah, I worded that in full retard mode, but what I am saying is that if magic was his weakness, then being near magic would reduce his powers. Simply touching the Helm of Fate would cause him to get sick.
It doesn't, because he doesn't have a weakness to magic, just that his invulnerabilities don't block pure magic.
Can Wonder Woman beat superman?
The question should be, how many times has Wonder Woman beaten him already?
>>83614491
His dick.
>>83620036
>>83619733
If it worked like that, he'd be completely crushed every time he faced Captain Marvel, but at best you get some comments about Marvel doing some minor extra damage.
Of course, in some stories, it does work like that anyway, but it doesn't make sense when you consider the characters' overall match ups.
>>83620036
She didn't really beat him in this one. She says she knows she couldn't beat him physically so she sends him to rescue the other JL members that she dispatched from the Watchtower or something like that.
He does the same trick to her in For Tomorrow, forcing her to save people instead of fighting with him.
>>83619733
Nah, it'd have to be something like a magic fire that can burn anything to be able to burn him
>>83618470
>So the only to beat her is with a lie
forgot a word there editors.
>>83620052
Keep in mind that only slowed him down enough to let her break Max's neck.
>>83617185
Because it's faster than hunting down all the scans myself.
>>83617905
Except it is. When has Diana ever moves over a million times the speed of light? Because Superman has. If she's faster in combat, how does he almost casually outspeed her when they fight?
>>83620036
>>83620052
Why is Superman the only cape character who is held to this insane standard of perfection? Every time someone isn't instagibbed by him, people cherry pic scans from the fight and claim Superman lost the fight, or that he has no skill. People manage to punch Batman, does HE have no skill?
>>83614491
Prep time bat is capable of everything
>smittens ww
>they fuck
>he injects her with a clone of himself inside her
>he uses Wayne tech ovary shutdown 2000 and only activates her eggs if he ever dies so she gets pregnant with him
>ww kills bats at some point
>ovary shutdown 2000 activates her eggs
>9 months later a super powered Bruce clone is born
>ww raises him, trains him in the arts of amazonian until adulthood
>automated message shows footage of why and how she killls bruce
>wonder Bruce kills ww
>wonder bruce hooks up with super girl's daughter
>Bruce plants a ww/wonder Bruce ovary shutdown 3000 to create a wonder super batman and a bat super wonder woman in case she kills him to create a clone of themseelves to defeat super girl,
>>83617936
"...but snap necks if you can"
>>83612918
Superman is not "slightly" more powerful. He is much much more powerful than she is.
>>83620036
This is taken from a one shot where she admits she can't beat him.
>>83620036
>not punching him
>>83618094
Wrong, but then so has everyone else. Magic attacks bypass Superman's bioelectric field, the force field his body naturally generates. This means magic attacks are more effective, because his full durability isn't in effect, but he's not powerless, the magic still has to be powerful enough to harm him. Which is why this >>83618305 is even possible in the first place.
>>83612763
Nobody can beat Wonder Woman. She's LITERALLY written to be perfect in every regard.
Don't underestimate the overcompensation of heroines.
>>83614772
Well the comic that was based on had Ras change the plans to make them more lethal, so no he probably had a safer option.
>>83615762
Well you both are right. It's true he said that but he came up with one by the time Endgame came around. It was a Greek magic artifact. Something about being a cloak of lies or somthing i dont remember for sure, but was made by the gods to be the opposite of her lasso. Both of those stories are 52 btw.
>>83612763
Depends on the writer.
>>83613562
Poor Lois.
Logically Superman would win 100% of the time. There's no sound argument against it other than "but Wonder Woman has this power"
Yeah, and Superman has EVERY power that matters in the superhero brawling aspect of things. The Ussain Bolt/Bruce Lee thing is ridiculous because you're talking about an Ussain Bolt that can run so fast that Bruce Lee wouldn't even experience .0000000000000000001% of a second before he's hit with what is essentially infinite mass. It just doesn't add up.
