Why do nostalgiafags pretend this is any better than Michael Bay's version?
>>83511508
Because it isn't nearly as over the top as Bay's version is?
>>83511617
That makes it better, how? Just seems like a more limited movie to me.
It's a pretty faithful adaptation of several issues in volume one, with elements of the 80s cartoon sprinkled in.
>>83511888
>Faithful adaptation
Wow
It's fucking nothing
It's better than Bay's but still a garbage version of the turtles. 2003 blows it the fuck out.
>>83511948
>>83511819
>>83511508
>Muh goalposts
>>83511819
>That makes it better, how?
I think so. Of all the TMNT movies, it's the most down to earth ninja-like (and it's hardly even that). None of the aliens or the super-technology that made the rest of the franchise boring. Just straight up Turtles vs the Foot.
>>83512126
So in other words the most boring and generic premise imaginable. Gotcha.
>>83511508
It was created in a sense that it knows what it was supposed to be. You take corny and quirky and it knew it was new to audiences. It knew what it was and people saw something for the first time seeing it for what it knew what it was.
These days when its put out it's rehashed. We like the 2012 show because it pulls back to originality of it. S't'uper serious TMNT is dumb. That's not the original idea. It's supposed to be a kids cartoon that adults can have fun watching. 2012 does it well.
>>83512147
I'm sorry. But the first live action movie is the basis for my comparison for everything regarding TMNT. So all the aliens and robots and the technodrome and all that is just incredibly stupid to me.
It probably doesn't help that I've put some light research into Ninjas in real life, so all that other stuff just triggers me even more.
>>83512261
nick has been weak since season 3 though.
>>83511990
Why are 2003 fags always so butthurt about this movie?
>>83511508
Because it's campy fun that doesn't lean on special effects.
I enjoyed the first Bayturtles, but the slapstick from the original films is gold.
>>83512632
Only because we're used to it and it feels like they can't bring new feels around.
Imagine starting with the latest two seasons. It's still kinda there. Had a buddy cackle with the space atlantis episode because he's a major scifi spoofy. He got every reference, all 20+ of them.
>>83512669
>>83512726
>Because it's campy fun
I'd say that about the later two of the three. The first one felt, from a dramatic standpoint where it needed, that it was the only one that took itself seriously.
>>83511508
Dog shit is better than Bay's version.
>>83511508
How many times are you going to make this thread?
>>83512669
2003 fags are always butthurt in general because nobody gives a shit about 2003 TMNT anymore. It's almost as irrelevant as The Next Mutation. But at least that series is fun to laugh at.
>>83512853
>the phone fucking hanging playing an impossible voicemail while everything is on fire
>turtlewax
>etc
Yeah it had the best drama moments, but that doesn't mean it didn't have humor.
Also, Casey of Murder.
It had heart. The scenes at the farm were great.
>>83512957
>Yeah it had the best drama moments, but that doesn't mean it didn't have humor.
I'm not saying it didn't. It clearly did. It just didn't rely on humor nearly as much as the following two did. It got serious when it needed to. Which is why I liked it more than the sequels.
Coincidentally, I can say the exact same thing about the Friday trilogy.
>>83512669
/co/ in general despises anything made before the year 2000 and anything from then is written off as nostalgia. The 80's / 90's are treated like poison over here ESPECIALLY the Turtles, along with Batman 89 and Batman Returns.
>>83513417
Burton Batman is terrible though and the first live action Turtles movie was great.
>>83513417
>anything made before the year 2000 and anything from then is written off as nostalgia.
>anything
The 1990 film is no masterpiece, but you'd have to be some kind of mouthbreather to not see that it's clearly a better made film. The Michael Bay films are entertaining if you like that sort of braindead key-jangling entertainment, but they're complete, irredeemable garbage. Just like everything else Bay makes.
>>83513692
>Burton Batman is terrible though
You take that back.
>>83513845
Yeah well of course /co/ would give a pass to meme shows. Also Spengbab is close enough to 2000 to get a pass.
>>83513859
At least the turtles in Bay's (not sure why we refer to this as Bay's turtles given he didn't even direct) movie all have distinct personalities. Don and Mike are the same character in the 1990 flick.
And I find the CGI turtles MUCH more believable than the shitty rubbber masks of the 90's desu.
>>83513978
>And I find the CGI turtles MUCH more believable than the shitty rubbber masks
That's because you're probably retarded and grew up with shitty Shrek movies.
>>83514021
Way to argue, really brought me around.
>>83514055
I wasn't arguing. I was insulting you.
>>83513865
Aesthetics and performances aside they're awful movies. All style and no substance, like every fucking Burton film that isn't Ed Wood or Big Fish.
>>83514082
You did a shitty job of that too fag.
>>83513963
>meme shows
And just like that, your opinion is worthless
>>83514108
Just another nostalgia fag on the wrong side of history huh
>>83514107
It was enough to get you mad, wasn't it?
>>83514125
"meme show" is a buzzword, get a real fucking argument
>>83514179
Get a real argument about why everything made before you were born is objectively garbage. /co/ for all these years has yet to do this.
>>83514306
>debunk this argument I made up
k
>>83514306
If it's not the badly dubbed anime, shitty farting animal CG movie, or geometric nightmare CalArts trash I grew up with, it's garbage.
>>83514353
I'll take that as a no.
>>83514369
There's nothing to prove. You made up an argument and said it's true. Fuck off unless you have proof
All of these movies are bad. All of them
>>83511508
To rustle your jimmies.
Based on the frequency of these threads, it works surprisingly well
>>83514100
>Aesthetics and performances aside they're awful movies
So you just dislike the story?
OP, you seem a bit angry that people prefer the older TMNT movie to the crappy new one. Why?
>>83514750
see >>83513417
he's a good /co/mrade :)
>>83514750
/co/ shits it's diapers whenever anyone prefers anything made 15+ years ago.
It crams in too many of the comic arcs into one film leaving a lot of characters rushed. Also, there's a LOT of bad pop culture jokes.
Standards are low enough that simple appeal to any demographic means quality.
>>83514878
You still wear diapers? That's pretty sad
>>83514878
But most good things were made 15+ years ago.
>>83514955
Then why did you ask to borrow a pair from me anon?
>>83514878
Which is kind of ironic when you think of it because reading comics in general is oldfag shit and nostalgic in itself.
>>83515037
Most of /co/ reads comics to be progressive and part of le geek culture so it makes sense really.
Who gives a crap what /co/ does. It's mostly millennial kiddies looking for shitty cartoon porn posting here anyway.
>any dissent about this movie is treated with "/co/ just hates everything!"
Well, OP, at least you know that the 1990 fans and Bay fans have the same mindset. If this thread continues, expect to see "you just hate fun" too.
>>83515130
Shut up, OP. Stop posting this thread, you butthurt bastard.
>>83515130
I sooner attribute it to butthurt 2003 / IDW shitheads than any sweeping statement about /co/.
>>83511508
Because it is a better movie?
>>83515178
Yeah, OP.
It's not our fault your shitty movie is failing due to the fact that nobody wants to see it since the first one sucked so hard. Blame Michael Bay for making a terrible movie.
>>83511508
Kids don't get to call adults old enough to be their parents "nostalgiafags". You're not even old enough to have nostalgia yet. Go watch some more Nickelodeon trash so you'll actually have something to wax nostalgic about in another 15 years. You don't want to waste all of your nostalgic memories of youth on making bad troll threads on 4chan, do you?
>>83511508
I don't even remember what the plot of the bay movie was about.
The 90's version was basically a movie about a fathers sons and complicated times that can occur during the time of teenage years....
>>83515622
I dunno. I have some nostalgia about early 4chan shit threads.
>>83513978
The first film had them one dimension cut outs of their basic personality
>>83514878
>>83515235
>idw fans being butt hurt
When? /co/ is pretty much unanimous that it's consistently the best verasion
Some.. and I mean "some" more effort was put into its production. Originally they were thinking of just doing an animated film in the same vein as the show, but then Henson stepped in. His crew did the anima-tronics for the Turtles' facial movements. That, plus it was interesting to see actual martial artists do the stunts in the costumes.
>>83517036
Yeah and? What does that have to do with how IDW fags hate this movie?
>>83517225
Literally one guy, and "they" aren't the only ones that "hate" this movie.
Some people just want a good turtles story.
It doesn't have to be "soul's winter" or "city at war" but this film wasn't it.
>>83517442
Literally one guy, except you, therefore already sabotaging whatever point you were trying to make.
>>83515130
Nice jpg man.
It's from IDW's Micro-Series #3. Quintessential Donatello reading.
>>83517848
>using the term "IDW Fags" for only 1 person
>using "plural" for a singular individual.
>>83511508
ooo, can I play?
>Why do nostalgiafags pretend this is any better than J.J. Abrams' version?
honestly the original was closer to the comics and the turtles were real. Films since the early 2000 have relied far too heavily on CG when done well and in small doese it can make a good film great or a shit film ok but when more than 40% of the movie is CG and the rest is live action then there never feels like the characters are actually in any real situation, it's hard to articulate but an over reliance on CG is killing movies.
But back to the turtles films best to worst
>Original
>TMNT
>Turtles 2/Turtles (MB)
>Turtles 3
>Anything else.
The main issue I had with the Bay turtle film was the over the top CG, megan fox, the shitty plot rewrite, megan fox, the hype over a new film.
>>83519937
I'd still put Secret of the Ooze over the 2014 movie. It was bad, but it was the goofy kind of bad you can at least laugh at. 2014 didn't even have that going for it.
All remakes or reboots of films can work but most fall flat when it tries to get a free ride on the franchise name ala Ghostbusters, any terminator after 2, star wars 1,2 + 3 etc for the money and nothing more rather than taking the franchise name and building upon it.
Using Ghostbusters as an example I bet if the original team showed up as ex ghostbusters in the film rather than (from the trailers) making out that the female ghost busters are the only ones (and this is ignoring the shit jokes in the trailers and the over use of fucking neon) it would of had far less backlash from fans.
Where as JJ's star trek showed that the events of the new film were altered due to interference from a character from the original universe offering the viewers the chance to see that this new film is an allternate telling of the franchise rather than riding the name,
>>83511948
Please tell me you're just baiting.
>>83513692
Batman 89 was pretty solid, but I do think things started falling apart horribly with Batman Returns.
>>83515178
I'll admit, everytime I see the hate for the 1990 TMNT movie, I get the feeling it's all coming from the same one person.
>>83513978
>(not sure why we refer to this as Bay's turtles given he didn't even direct)
MOMMY, what are damage control an
