What are some good "final forms" in Western animation?
>>83490283
I suposse Swamp Thing.
>>83490283
I dunno. The flash?
Only example I can actually think of.
>>83490283
Having read and watched both sides, I still wonder what exactly made the "forms thing" so prevalent in the japanese media (to the point of the entire fighting or even the plot of some series based around the fact of transforming and developing those forms) while the concept is rarely explored the times something like that gets used in western.
>>83490283
Final form?
Rune King Thor
>>83490283
>>83490283
Thorforce Thor from JMS' run
>>83490283
Definitely not good, but its a final form in western animation
Thor duel wielding mjolnirs while possessing All-Black the Necrosword, the Slicer of Worlds, the Annihilablade.
>>83490959
I'm sure it was used before, but probably one of the most memorable ones was Frieza in DBZ.
He was powerful and fearsome before, and made everyone he came across bow at his feet, and the reveal of "I've done all of this in my weakest state" was probably supposed to be an "Oh, SHIT" moment.
Does this count?
>>83490283
I always hated that power level stuff in anime.
Man-Bat-Man > Batgod
>>83491736
>>83491350
King Thor wielding Mjolnir and the Thorsword while possessing All-Black the Necrosword
>>83491736
kek, does this mean the book is worth reading?
>>83491350
>>83491799
>people actually think this 12 year old "metal" imagery is badass
guess it makes sense of Marvel readers
>>83490959
It's a thing that came from Toku.
>>83491867
post panels that are badass according to you then
>>83491929
Also doesn't help that the West always wants to be more "realistic."
>>83491867
Well anon if you prefer more grounded and realistic Thor stories you could always just watch the movies
>>83491973
>Try the red one.
>>83491736
When did Spidergwen become fun?
>>83490959
shit writing
>>83490959
Were the Japanese using it before 1959? I mean for all I know they were.
>>83490283
Christ, anime is such trash. How does /a/ put up with this garbage?
>>83492044
That's a great twist but not a "final form"
Nor particularly badass. Just a solid twist in a good daredevil run
Is there any capeshit with some exclusive shonen troupes?
>retardedly convoluted powers
>final forms
>powerlevels
>>83491355
and, like with literally everything done well in anime/manga, it's been copied and recopied so much it's lost all trace of originality and cleverness.
>>83491350
>>83491799
Looks cool
>>83491867
I don't see the problem on that
>>83491736
>moon pie
What a time to be alive.
>>83492096
if you go further back you get 'the dwarf transformed into a dragon by his own greed' in the saga of sigfried
>>83492110
Fair, but I'd say that that moment is the culmination of his fight with Ikari, and anon was simply asking for a badass moment or Panel, so I think it qualifies.
Honestly, the idea of changing to different forms to indicate power boosts is pretty dumb in my book.
>>83491867
About as much sense as attacking with two hammers at once.
>>83490283
My dick.
>>83492161
>Mixing the worst of manga with the worst of comic books
Why tho
>>83492161
Well the more yellow sun radiation a Kryptonion absorbs the stronger they get.
>>83490904
And it was pretty great too.
>>83492096
That's more of a "typical one-off villain transformation" than a theme of continuous form-based fights over the entire story.
>>83491929
You're referring to the Tokusatsu channel, right?
That's a good point.
Still I think the magical-girl series had a more significant influence on this, since the "form transformation" is ingrained as hell in that genre and it has been around as we know it for decades now.
Some Captain Planet shit right here.
>>83490283
Justice League Lex/Brainiac forms
Not Brainiac-seid. He's a final boss, but he's just Darkseid with extra bits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiTWeu0nOKs
Does this count?
>>83492357
I like some shonen tropes, but they have been done very poorly and predictable on almost every manga (the only series that i've seen pull them correctly are HxH and JoJo).
What I don't like about superheroes is that there is no experimentation with the powers, while on *generic shonen* is the polar opposite and the main characters have extremely specific powers that make fights look awesome.
Don't get me wrong, I like the western comic style, but I hate how they use fights as literal boring filler.
>>83492176
Alexandrite ishorrifying>ever doubting based Sugar
It's second to last but it looks cooler.
>>83492842
Somebody really missed an opportunity
>bothering to have the trinity be solid colors
>Not going for a printed media motiff of Cyan, Magenta, Yellow
>Not blue Batman, red Wonder Woman, and yellow~golden DC One Million Superman Prime
>no transformation
>unleashes full power
>dat music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXZWBJ-KKaU
I still get chills.
>>83492357
If you think shonen is the worst of manga you need to go deeper
>>83492842
>Our mistake was being human
>Our
Come on Bruce
>>83493061
>Timm didn't commit to a 9fast9u perpetual helicopter noise Kingdom Come Flash sequence after Wally went too fast.
Lots of people seem to forget this, but the iconic Anti-Monitor look that people remember was actually his final form.
>>83493262
They address that in the comic. When they revert from godhood they admit they became arrogant and absolute in all they did because they were endowed with power.
>>83493469
I thought it was his containment suit
>>83494521
Eh, it sort of counts anyway, iirc. I'm not sure if he could exist without the suit anyhow. Pic related was his very first 'form'.
>>83494637
OP here, what am I looking at?
>>83490283
Aizen was a shitty final form, though.
Why don't they make more Hogyokus anyway? The first one literally broke the reality of the Bleach universe (The King of Hueco Mundo states how all things die, and then Aizen turns out to be the sole exception in the universe to that rule, though you could argue that being the only remaining thing in a dead universe is just as bad as being one of the dead things in a dead universe).
Urahara can make them; did they ever explain why he didn't just make another for Ichigo to use?
Remender you madman.
>>83494637
>>83494521
>>83493469
Well, he does eventually fly out of the sun in a ball of fire before one of the Supermans punch him. that was the last of him in the CoIE. He lost the suit at that point
>>83494737
Read Crisis on Infinite Earths.
>>83494886
Oh fuck, you're right. So does it count or not?
>>83492161
The only thing that comes to mind is the AvX mini they had during Avengers vs X-Men. As much as im enjoying Contest of Champions, part of me wishes that we had a second version of that comic that was handled more like a battlemanga.
>>83491736
Huh. Maybe I should be reading Spider-gwen afterall.
>>83491381
i wonder what would happen if he use that thing of ultimate alien, that would be his final form?
>>83492161
>>83496009
There was a Countdown tie-in mini that was a tournament arc. Granted it was shit but it was kind of bad in an enjoyable way.
I've always wanted to read a comic that were a straight up tournament arc but only good.
>>83491867
It's a comic book. You were expecting something high-brow?
>>83496254
I don't see why this can't be done with Mojoworld or something.
>>83497303
who would win, Superman Prime vs. 1 Billion Solgaleo's?
>>83492842
>superman
>wonder woman
>not already being gods
i get that kal-el probably wasn't anything special as far as kryptonians go, but they're all dead and he isn'tright nowso it's kind of a moot point.
ol' brucey's hyperintelligence, sufficiently-advanced technology, and ridiculous training and fitness also makes him somewhat dubiously human rather than some sort of swoll cyborg god, despite his baseline human biology.
>>83493010
batman's the K in CMYK, and yellow's a stupid color
How can other final forms even compete?
>>83491628
I swear to god I got an erection when I read that.
>>83498263
no way that's Doom
>>83491736
"actually refers to herself as spider-gwen
jesus christ what shit... nice fucking secret identity
imagine if spider-man called himself fucking Spider-Pete?
FUCKING GARBAGE THE FASTER SPIDER-GWEN GETS SHITCANNED THE BETTER
>>83500672
Anon theres like a million people with Gwen as their name. You really think she can find the right one?
>>83500672
I didn't read all of the tie ins, but I'm pretty sure evil Cindy knew who Gwen was. But still, it is pretty fucking stupidfigure when?
>>83500672
Kamala Khan runs around wearing the same symbol on her chest in her street clothes as her superhero costume and regularly shows up in her own school expecting a domino mask to fully hide her identity.
>>83501083
>Kamala Khan runs around wearing the same symbol on her chest in her street clothes as her superhero costume and regularly shows up in her own school expecting a domino mask to fully hide her identity.
COMIC
OMIC
MIC
IC
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BOOKS
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OKS
KS
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>>83499990
Yes way.
Civil War 2 sidetracked it but Doom is currently back to the Kirby era of only having a tiny facial scar that he had taken as a major disfigurement. And he is taking a shot at playing hero like Loki or Lex Luthor.
>>83491104
That's cheating, wakfu basically turned into dragon ball z at the end.
>>83501170
of course it's still Doom so he's doing stuff like pressuring an impressionable scientist that if she needs results in time to cure her father she needs to skip straight to human testing and he has a quaint little secure facility where she could do so safe from prying eyes
>>83500981
Sure but in any other situation?
"Oh hey gwen whats up with you disappearing the other night when those guys robbed the bank and uh... spider-gwen showed up to stop them?...jesus gwen" it's just fucking stupid it's just a horrible way to name a super hero here for example lets use this same logic the creators of spider-gwen had only in an alternate reality where other creators had the same fucking retarded logic our superhero's would be;
Spider-Pete
Iron Tony
Captain Steve America
Black T'challa
Bruce Hulk
Spider-Miles
Carol Marvel
Superclark
Batbruce
Spider-Jess
Green Hal
The Barry
Natasha Widow
and i could go on and on. I don't mean it's stupid in universe i mean it's stupid from a creative standpoint just call her spider-woman or something else calling her and the series spider-gwen is. fucking. retarded
>>83501236
>The Barry
I kek'ed pretty good at this
>>83501236
>Black T'challa
Not him but to be fair, don't people know who the Black Panther is, because of Wakandan law, the king of Wakanda is always going to be the Black Panther? Dude's a world leader, most people should know who the fuck he is.
I mean you're not wrong, but that's not a good example.
Wouldn't 'Captain Steve America' also not really be a good example either?
>>83501236
>Spider-Pete
>Iron Tony
>Captain Steve America
>Black T'challa
>Bruce Hulk
>Spider-Miles
>Carol Marvel
>Superclark
>Batbruce
>Spider-Jess
>Green Hal
>The Barry
>Natasha Widow
>>83501333
>>83501236
I prefer American Steve the Captain desu
>>83501333
yeah you're right there i only meant them as examples of dumb naming though.
here howabout Giant Hank and Ghost Danny?
>>83501236
>I don't mean it's stupid in universe i mean it's stupid from a creative standpoint just call her spider-woman or something else calling her and the series spider-gwen is. fucking. retarded
If anything, wouldn't it be the other way around?
The book itself being named 'Spider-Gwen' is fine and maybe her calling herself that in private or in her head as a joke would make sense, but her actual superhero name being 'Spider-Woman' or something.
>>83501395
Just 'Steve' would be best, imo. Just fucking 'Steve'.
>"The Avengers, Earth's mightiest heroes, featuring:
>Iron Man, the Man Wearing a Mechanical Wonder
>Thor, Norse God of Thunder
>Hulk, Anger Incarnate
>Hawkeye, The Greatest Archer in the World
>Black Widow, Former Soviet Spy Turned Avengers Member
>...and Steve!"
>>83501478
>Giant Hank
That's basically a pornstar name, come on.I love it.
>>83501236
>Spider-Pete
>Iron Tony
>Captain Steve America
>Black T'challa
>Bruce Hulk
>Spider-Miles
>Carol Marvel
>Superclark
>Batbruce
>Spider-Jess
>Green Hal
>The Barry
>Natasha Widow
Oh god we need mockup covers with these as the titles
>The Barry
my sides
>>83501236
>Green Hal
Green Guy and Green John, too.
Sinestro lucked out.
>>83490968
Not even a real final form, though. It's implied he has a full on cartoon body we never see.
>>83501236
My name is Barry Allen. And I am the fastest man alive. To the outside world I am an ordinary forensic scientist, but secretly with the help of my friends at S.T.A.R. Labs I fight crime and find other metahumans like me. I hunted down the man who killed my mother, but in doing so I opened up our world to new threats, and I am the only one fast enough to stop them. I am THE BARRY
>>83501567
>The Jay
>The Barry
>The Wally
>The Bart
Ladies and gentlemen the The Family
>>83501799
The Speedforcesters
>>83497621
Solgaleo isn't adying sun, so... Superman Prime unless he's somehow still weak to red sunlight.>steel type
>iron is one of the last elements formed in a star's lifespan
>sun-moon dualism, solgaleo is supposed to symbolize our sun, not some random star
What does it mean?yeah, it's probably just a weird Superman reference, a sun powered 'Pokemon of steel"
>>83501829
2/3
>>83501844
3/3
>>83494858
Is that hulk ghost rider?
>>83492236
So why are you in this thread?
>>83501858
With the Venom suit mixed in.
>>83501858
With the Venom Symbiote, yeah.
>>83495235
It sucks that they ultimately decided to go back to normal Bob. I hate when writers undo supposedly "permanent" changes to characters.
>>83490283
He went out like a bitch immediately after, but holy hell was Hexxus' final form metal as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz8hXyBdTOk
>>83501980
Amazo was so fucking cool. JL/JLU were so fucking based.
They really need to bring him back in a future cartoon and have a crossover with the original DCAU.
>>83501844
>>83501852
While fucking sick
...What?
Why?
How?
Who?
>>83501170
>Implying Doom isn't always taking a shot at being the hero.
>>83502017
Hickman's run of FF, Franklin vs a host of Celestials.
>>83490283
Thanks for reminding me of that OP. What a fucking waste. Building up the final boss of the series for 250 episodes only to have Ichigo completely, utterly and immediately eclipse him.
>>83491867
Aaron is dogshit, but Ribic is on point.
>>83502083
Eclipse him by making the penultimate sacrifice. Everything after Aizen is shit though.
>>83502083
>That's neither of their Final Forms.
Not technically a final form, but close enough, right?
HOW ABOUT....MECHA-SHIVA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRRY8UWJEUg
>>83502170
That's not the Gauntlet's final form tho...
>>83502068
>First season
>final form
>>83502068
>>83502273
Not to mention the true cool as fuck final form. Few action sequences can compare to this, and I'm talking all forms of entertainment.
>>83491867
Esad Ribic is good
>>83502322
Let's post it up, shall we?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNYMxgNKIEU
>>83501829
The nexus of gauntlet-wielding Reeds was amazing in this series
1/2
>>83502431
2/2
>>83501236
>The Barry
Sounds like something a douche would call himself. So yea it fits.
>>83501972
Goddamn, Hexxus's final form both terrified and aroused tiny me. How Tim Curry could make both a sentient slime mold and a skeleton on fire sexy, I don't know.
>>83494996
quicksippy.png
>>83494745
Needs too much soul energy. The one Urahara made was incomplete, as was the one that Aizen made. Aizen had to feed Urahara's to his to actually complete it. On top of that the thing seems to be sentient, making controlling it a hassle.
>>83501236
>The Barry
Pfffffthahahahahaha
>>83492176
Oh no, friend. We still need one more the final form.disregard the markings, only pic I had
>>83503810
yeah it's pretty inevitable at this point that they're gonna voltron
I'm calling garnet at the head, pearl and lapis at the arms, amethyst and peridot at the legs
or maybe steven head and garnet torso or whatever
Captain Marvel becoming cosmically aware was pretty cool.
>>83492078
That's it, really.
It's just a really generic plot devide to make something appear stronger without having to go too much into character development and actual plot.
>>83501799
Don't forget the newest member, "Other Wally"
>>83490959
It's just really fucking awesome and the post-transformation dynamic posing potential is limitless.
>>83501236
>Iron Tony
What aboutPete revealing himself as the true Superior Spider-Man?
>>83503810
>>83503990
isnt it supposed to be Rose + Pearl + Amethyst + Garnet?
>>83503990
I'm 99% sure that the temple represents the fusion of the five gems: Ruby, Sapphire, Rose, Amethyst and Pearl. And if we ever see the temple fusion it's gonna be fucking badass.
>>83504509
that kind of explains why the fusion of just the 3 of them is so monstrous and discordant, when the fusions of two of them is generally pretty graceful and effective
Rose was holding them all together
>>83491104
I wonder who is stronger now after this happened. And when will they start throwing planets at each other.
>>83504484
Otto was so much better than Peter...
What a waste...
>>83504484
So how did they weasel their way back to Peter and not Otto being Spiderman?
>>83500672
>>83501236
Though that's the one and only time she ever calls herself Spider-Gwen and it's in the company of three other women who all know her identity, it's still retarded?
>>83492286
Not a final form
>>83491867
Found the Janefag.
>>83504716
Gobby was holding midgetwaifu hostage and Otto was stumped on how to stop him. In the name of creepy midgetlove he restored Peter's memories and purged the otto persona. Now Otto is in a robot watching peter get midgetpussy every night.
>>83501236
>Captain Steve America
>Black T'challa
>>83491736
Wait, does she actually refer to herself as Spider-Gwen? Fucking really?
>>83503990
Don't forget, Steven can fuse with humans. Can you imagine the monstrosity that would be all the Beach City residents fused together? or fused with the gems?
>>83506660
>Steven x Lion fusion
beastmode when
>>83501500
We, are the Avengers
We're here to save the day
And if you think we can't we might just find a way
That's why we are the mightiest believed in
Hawk eye
Ironman
And Thor-
-AND STEVEN!
>>83506975
I have a headcannon in which thor is the only one of the avengers classically trained in opera, and can just fucking belt out a baritone if he wants to
>>83507080
You are now imagining a Thor edit in Baritone of "Strong in the Real Way"
>>83491736
I thought that was Gwenpool for a second, not Spidergwen
>>83492176
Looks like Eva 01
FInal form?
>>83490283
Pic related, i guess
>>83501083
Kamala's a shapeshifter. If anybody gets suspicious, she can just give them a runaround by saying that Ms. Marvel uses her face out of sheer coincidence.
>>83490283
I love how generic this scene is.
>A MERE HUMAN COULD NEVER DEFEAT ME
>Using this technique will make you lose all of our powers
Fitting closure for the lifeless chasm that is Bleach. Puns intended.
>>83490959
Toy companies probably love that they can push a new action figure of the same character every couple of episodes.
>>83491518
That's pretty cool. Is that the Demiurge?
>>83495235
>Glitch Bob
>Glitch Mob?
>Starve the Ego.
>Feed the Soul.
>>83508826
>closure
It keeps going on well after that.
And much like DBZ had the fusion that couldn't be undone be ultimately undone, Ichigo here recovered the powers he was supposed to lose for good. Standard shonen fare.
>>83508357
did they bring back Sentry or is he still coocking into the sun?
>>83501236
>The Barry
I'm calling him this from now on
>>83491036
>>83491350
>animation
>>83493576
I think what he means is thatBruce Wayne is the only one of the three who's an actual human.
>>83492096
Thinking of their legends of fish leaping over mountains to transform into dragons, I'd actually say it is indeed in their culture natively.
>>83501478
>Ghost Danny
At least it's better than Inviso-Bill.
>>83505254
I wouldn't actually call this his final form, this is just *a* form he's decided to take when he's angry. His final form was simply him having physical form. Past that, it's basically arbitrary.
>>83501395
That one will be an American Dad episode soon.
Not an actual form change per se, but the World of Cardboard speech is definitely a prime example of a "witness my true power" moment in Western animation.
>>83501236
What about Danny Fenton?
>>83490283
Unicron trilogy Galvatron. Hell, I'm sure Beast Wars-dragon Galvatron could count, too.
>>83490959
Where Japanese media has "This isn't even my final form" galore, the West has gadgets.
Take cape comics, for instance. The characters are always changing suits, weapons, tools, teams, etc. Also, resurrections.
>>83504496
No because Amethyst wasnt around when the temple was made around the war times
she came much after
>>83493469
Should I read Crisis on infinite earths?
>>83493061
The weird thing is that came from no where.
There was no hint that it would be flash who was going to save the day, he got no more focus that ep than anyone else.
>>83510972
That and power-creep over time.
Look at Iceman, for example. Originally he just froze things and made ice slides, now he has control over all thermodynamic forces and can exist as a consciousness independent of his own body.
Or like when Jubilee's fireworks were explained as being sub-atomic denotations that could potentially allow her to destroy any form of matter.
>>83501236
>The Barry
>Superclark
>>83491104
I only watched the first 2 seasons. What else do I have left to watch of Wakfu?
>>83492202
Cool reference bro
>>83511221
I'd say it's still relevant and kind of explains the whole cosmology of the DC multiverse, really.
Reading it probably makes reading anything post-2005 or so DC much easier to understand, or at least all of the big events, like Infinite Crisis, Sinestro Corps War, Blackest Night, Final Crisis, The Multiversity, and so on.
Plus it's a pretty good read that stands the test of time.
"final form" is a dumb-ass concept, almost as much as "powers and abilities".
>>83504484
If only it wasn't such a shitty series.
>>83506975
>>83507080
>>83507172
Too fucking perfect.
>>83491059
Seriously, the Man-Spider/Other form needs to be more commonly used.
>>83505630
Sounds like the set up to this year's Hugo-award winning Sci-fi thriller of a porno.
I...
AM...
GANON!shut up it is too /co/ related, there was a cartoon and everything
>>83515169
>there was a cartoon and everything
EXCUUUUUSE ME PRINCESS.
>>83515169
Then post his cartoon final form, you fucking dingus
>>83509132
After the Apocalypse Twins dilemma ended, Horseman Sentry went to travel the space ways.
>>83509022
why does it have edgy weeb hair?
I want Binary's white hole
>>83504648
>3 of them
garnet is two gems in a trench coat
also consider this: since there are two more gems, who at the very least arent trying to kill the CGs, the possibility of an even bigger final form may be likely. after all, if theres anything we've learned about final forms its that there is always an even greater final form a la gurren lagann
>>83501980
Gold Amazo vs Stardust?
>>83505013
think about that for a second
think about how terrifying a fully mature mewman could be
>>83515688
Thought Robot was a masterpiece. But I think OP is asking for only animation
>>83491829
>>83492050
>>83496184
Don't get use to it. It won't carry onto the regular series. This was in the Spider-Women Omega issue.
>>83501852
Nah bull life ringer is better
>>83504808
>>83508357
Oh god that made me poor myself when void showed up
>>83514979
> main characters are two straight white men and one straight white woman
There's zero chance that'll ever win the Hugos.
>>83508301
This was a mistake.
>>83490904
That one's God tier.
>>83490283
>>83502211
This.
>>83501170
Doom was always my hero!
>>83518845
This definitely fits.
Lung, too, he's pretty much "This isn't even my final form" - the character.
>>83501720
Pistol packing possum. Same red eye only one in R.K. Maroons office not animated into the film uses the same pistol.
>>83514776
Why do you have to look up to him aside from in a literal sense.
Don't you know that a power that green comes at a bigger expense
Cannot you see that he's out of control and aggressive
I'm telling you for your own good not because I'm...
I know you can be Worthy, in the real way
I can you that you are worthy, in the real way!
And I want to inspire you, I want to be your god and when I talk it lights a fire in you.
>>83490283
Well, there's this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYCa-ByMNsA
Does Mystic Monkey Powers Ron count?
>>83493295
why was wally like that in kingdom come?
>>83501829
>>83501844
>>83501852
*heavy metal starts playing*
>>83517104
Girl Genius took some Hugos awhile back. Just about anyone important in that comic is white.
>>83515317
Kek
>>83524230
I've got one better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMcEBX74AWE
>>83492286
>>83503810
>>83505254
>>83508357
>>83524230
>thread about western final forms
>every third or so has some kind of buddha imagery going on
HMMM
>>83526231
Well yeah, Buddhism at it's core is about transcending existence into the highest conceptual state of being
A lot like a final form
>>83513249
That stuff would be fine with a limiter like a form change. Like if Ice Man had to lower his body temperature to "Absolute Zero" and then he gets a slew of new power-ups and a visual change.
I'm always surprised that no Comic writer has tried to bridge the gap between east and west in their own works by throwing out attack names and having heavily choreographed fights.
Johnny Storm needs an anime solo.
>>83526523
I'd like to believe that because it's clever but I'm sure most of them just chose the design because 'multiple arms look cool'.
>>83526931
the multiple arm thing has a lot more to do with Hinduism than Buddhism though, Vishnu and whatnot
>>83490283
That's not even a good final form in anime
>>83501236
>Green Hal
>>83496193
How do you get more ultimate than reality warping? Just removing the arguing heads?
>>83501204
If it was, Yugo would've actually beat the villain instead of having some third party save the day.
>>83495235
> glitch bob
> not season 3 dominatrix hex
> not even benign virus data-angel hex, possibly the only good part of season 4
>>83501980
Who are those mechs? The one with the star and the one that's not Red Tornado?
>>83526231
Some of those, you're blurring the line between hindu influences that are all over southeast Asia
Arms are more of a Hindu deity thing.
>>83518845
Source?