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The preliminary general consensus here on the coloring is it's too bright and muh fractals.
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>>83409702
Thanks for letting me know what I should think.
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My ISP goes full faggot so expect choppy executions.
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>>83409736
>For you
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this dialogue sounds very obnoxious...shame about the art, it's actually nice but the writing's gonna blow.
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>>83409789
Poor flash
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>Joshua Williamson
Who?

And yeah, the art and especially the colors look like it's from some shitty webcomic
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Joshua Williamson needs to stick to his indie books. Nailbiter is great but his marvel work was weak and this seems to be the same
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>>83409785
Who's white Zoom?
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>>83409808
Does Singh knows he's the Flash? Does Hartley? I dropped the previous run somewhere in the middle.
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>judging a book based on literally 4-5 pages of previews

We did the same thing with this week's one-shots, and they all came out better than expected.
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>>83409808

This actually comes before >>83409841


All previews of Rebirth one-shots to be released on June 8 will be posted as lettered from now on.

FIN
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>>83409841
Gotta love cross-media synergy.
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>>83409726
Wow what a vote of confidence in the kid
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>flash rebirth

Yeah, i've already read that one.
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>>83409914
This is All-New All Different Flash Rebirth.
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What's wrong with the art? I like it, I feel like it suits The Flash
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>>83409785
damn I feel like I should be getting this instead of WW Rucka, I mean /co/ was hyping up Tom King Batman and underhanding SJW Arrow and look at what happened. I think I'll be picking this and Aquaman, WW doesn't need my three dollars.

>>83409821
IDK, Illuminati was ok? And I guess his Red Skull mini was neat

>>83409873
other than Batman anyways. Then again it had such high expectations
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>>83409808
Wait..
Is the neck snap canon again? Or is this just speed force fuckery?
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I guess the memory thing is him trying to sort between pre-Flashpoint and post-Flashpoint stuff then? Main Rebirth special made it seem like he only remembered the new 52 version of Wally.
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>>83410020
You need to read DCU Rebirth first if you haven't already
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>>83409881
Nothing there is cross media tho?
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>>83409881
What are you talking about?
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What's with this weeaboo, ape the shitty current dcau style?
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>>83409736
Dat flash shadow on the door. Pretty slick
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>>83410150
>weeaboo
are you fucking stupid
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Was any N52 Flash good or should I just start here?
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>>83410043
I have, the neck snap being there still doesn't make sense to me. Doesn't this imply that Iris west also died in this timeline? Iris West has always been the most confusing thing about the flash to me.
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>>83410212
The first like 30 issues are ok (amazing art but the story isn't anything special), but you can start here.
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>>83410212
Read the Manapul/Buccellato run. Skip everything after that.
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>>83410219
Well he's likely just getting his memories back rather than it being canon.
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>>83410219
Homages are made by this artist trough the book.

Certain things are added back in, Kid flash and Speeedys drug habbits and Jasons post crisis past.
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I like it.
The Flash should be in brighter colour.
He's a real hero, not some grim brooder.
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Art's kinda funky, but I like it.
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>>83409808
Reverse Flash seems like a pretty good boss
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>>83409881
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>>83410176
I especially like how the mirror doubles as the suit logo.
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>>83409854
Godspeed
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>>83409726
Better not be fucking Murmur again.
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The main Flash book's gonna have two artists, right? Or is Di Giandomencio only doing the art for the Rebirth one shot?
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>>83409952
BORING! I want Flash Rebirth NOW!
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>>83410709
>Or is Di Giandomencio only doing the art for the Rebirth one shot?
June and July issues.
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>>83410744
Ah, alright. Thanks.
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>>83409785
so what makes godspeed different from any of the other speedsters that have a hate-boner for barry?
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>>83410785
I think there was something said to suggest he might secretly be good? People were guessing he'd be Wally before the reveal.
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>>83410785
He's wearing white and has a full face mask?
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The ink is really bad
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>>83409808

Even if it's just a memory, I'm very happy to see Reverse Flash's actual design again, rather than the shitfest that was the reverse flash design of the New 52
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Oh the arts bad. He's just doing the one issue though.
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>>83409785
>Another dick-ass evil speedster
Seriously? That's the best they could do?
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>>83409841

Why is Batman driving the Tumblr? I noticed it also in Rebirth
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>>83411166
I bet you $1 that he isn't bad after this initial arc
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>>83409881
>>83410122
>>83410124
Death Zoom I assume.
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>>83411185
>implying he's gonna be seen after this arc
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>>83411209
He will. they've put hype on him
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>>83410785
he has a name with gravitas
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>>83410785
as the opposite of black flash, he creates speedsters rather than kill them
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>>83411279
>doesn't kill speedsters
>told Barry he's going to kill them all
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>>83411201
Then that guy exposed himself as a casual since Black Flash was in Rebirth 1.0 and that's a recap page of the whole Rebirth+Flashpoint stuff.
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>>83411335
Yes, but to create one must destroy

or something
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There's 5 zooms at this point.
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>>83411366
>the next huge Flash story is Crisis of Infinite Zooms
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>>83411335

Who says he is talking about speedsters?
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>>83409809
>>Joshua Williamson
He's probably best known for his Image books Birthright and Nailbiter. I'm only about five issues into both but they're pretty good so far.
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>>83411335
kill them with his army of speedsters
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Taking bets on something like this happening in the final pages with the JSA returning

>Old Man walking home during the storm
>New narration boxes

>>83411366
Do you mean Zooms or Reverse Flashes?
Because there's only 2 Zooms, Hunter and Eobard. Reverse Flash concepts theres those 2 plus Daniel West, The Rival and now Godspeed
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>>83409736
Stupid fun shit like this is why I love comics
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>>83411406
Johns really could do his Zoom vs Kadabra war plot now that the path is cleared to get everyone back (besides Irey and Jai I guess, RIP).
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>>83411485
oh shit godspeed is in the mirrors
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>>83411443
>Taking bets on something like this happening in the final pages with the JSA returning

>Old man walking home during the storm
>New narration boxes talking about Alzheimers and Dementia and how he feels like he's forgetting everything
>Struck by lightning
>Wakes up surrounded by people trying to help him
>Escapes back to his home using his "newly" discovered speed
>Runs up to an attic or closet with a safe
>"I remember. All of it"
>"The war, Alan, Carter, all of them"
>Helmet shown as he opens the safe
>"My name is Jay Garrick and I was the fastest man alive"
>Cue Flash Family and Orlandos JSA set-up

Do wanna know what other books other JSAers will appear in tho. I could see Alan showing up in GLs and we know Fates in both Dr Fate and BB.
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>>83411485
I didn't even catch that

This art is a little messy but I enjoy it
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>>83411564
I could see Alan in Batman honestly if they put him back there historically.
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>>83411564
They could tie Alan into current GL stuff real easily, just say Krona's gauntlet was actually powered by the Starheart then Hal can pass those powers off to Alan because reasons then get his regular ring back

Also I'm picturing Alan vs Parallax Sinestro and I am diamonds
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>>83409702
Will Flash be one of the bimonthly books?
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>>83411598
Hal will be too busy in space so it'll probably old man Alan whipping Simon and Jessica into shape.
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>>83411600
Yep
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>>83411617
Who's the other artist on it?
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>>83411653
Neil Googe
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>>83411653
Neil Googe
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>>83411598
The jsa is being brought from their covert days to now soon.
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>>83411704
>>83411708
Oh, I remember him from Majestic. Not bad.
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>The fourth evil speedster arc in three years
Come on, son.

I don't think the coloring is a problem, but that ink screams low quality digital finish.
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>>83411832
>Have a new writer every little while
>Every new writer feels obligated to do evil speedster arcs
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>another evil speedster
Fuck off Williamson. Abra Kadabra better end up being the big bad
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>>83409808
The electricity around the flashes will never not be stupid
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>>83411616
>>83411598
>>83411564
>Alan being written by Humphries
Alan confirmed to be retconned bi_ and it will be done awfully well as both Orlando and Johns will be holding Humphries hand through the whole thing
It'll be revealed that Alan actually loved Sam during a fling before he and Molly met and settled down.
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>>83409873
Only the Green Arrow one was good. The rest weren;t.
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Its okay
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>>83412030
I mean people would get mad at that but I'd think it's fine.
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>>83410017
>I should be getting this instead of WW Rucka
Mate no. /co/ was stupid about the other two. But this is not a case where you'll make a good trade. If you really want to drop WW for something, pick up Christopher Priest's Deathstroke.
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>>83409809
>And yeah, the art and especially the colors look like it's from some shitty webcomic
Why don't you stick to Marvel where this argument actually applies to something?
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>>83411166
>killing criminals
>evil
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>>83411564
>Orlandos JSA
God, I hope this doesn't happen
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>>83412107
Read his twitter, its pretty much confirmed with how much he teases it, saying he's writing an unannounced DC book and fanboys over the JSA for absolutely no reason.
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>>83410950
But Dabid

Its a square

Its the REVERSE of a circle Dabid

DABID!
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>>83412107
>>83412135
And don't forget this: https://twitter.com/geoffjohns/status/567368235398356992

But I kind of think he's trolling us and it's LoSH that he's doing. Too easy to launch them out of a Supergirl arc.
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>>83412092
>muh company wars
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>>83412135
>Read his twitter
No. And I don't care if it's "pretty much confirmed". Since it hasn't been confirmed, I'll continue to hope it never does.
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>>83412186
Then when its announced alongside the September/November solicits I will laugh at you since its what JLA actually is.
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>>83409881
The parent murder angle used in the TV series was lifted from the Brightest Day/Flashpoint/New 52 stories and spooky evil Flash there may be Black Flash, created during Morrison's tenure on the character and is what the wraith creatures turned Zoom into in the TV series.
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>>83412206
Okay, laugh at me for hoping against something I don't want. I'm sure I'm not the first to do it, neither will I be the last.
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This dialog feels really stiff, like they used Madlibes of comic book dialog and just filled in the names and places pertaining to the Flash and then just copy pasted his origin from a wiki
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>>83409876
>dat fourth and fifth panel
That's a direct homage to the scene where his powers kick in during Barry's first Silver Age appearance and I love it.
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>>83412051
ah pretty sure they won't be on the same week though.
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>>83412092
I don't even read marvel familia desu
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>>83411511
I was just thinking that last night.
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>>83412276
Oh okay. I didn't realise that's what you were doing. Carry on with what you will. And this may not mean much, but, as someone who does not agree with /co/ a lot, I'd say pick Wondy over Flash.

Of course you're free to choose after you read the comics through some illicit means, which is exactly how I'm carrying my Rebirth purchases. Except Blue Beetle. I've already got that pre-ordered.
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>>83412107
You, sir, have zero taste.
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>>83411581
I want this so fucking bad.
What run was it where it flashes back to Bruce as a kid seeing Alan Scott? I feel like it was a Hush story, but I can't remember it for shit. I just always really enjoyed that bit about the og Green Lantern being a hero in Gotham and inspiring young Bruce a bit.
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>>83412855
Brubaker's Detective run that ran concurrently with Loeb's.
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>>83412875
Oh wait it was in Hush too. One of the watercolor flashbacks.
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I thought Barry saved his mom in Flashpoint?
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>>83412972
And he then undid it because saving his mom caused a huge ripple effect in the timeline
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>>83412998
Oh, that sucks. Really, having Barry's mom die in the first place was a shitty retcon.
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>>83412107
>not wanting one of DC's best new writers on a JSA book
...okay?
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>>83409808

Okay so is Eobard back to his normal costume now?

Good.
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>>83412350
Already done that anon gotta stick to those small titles or they'll get cancelled. I do agree that I should get Deathstroke since it'll most likely sell not as good as the other titles.
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>>83412895
Shit yeah, the water colors was all I could remember too, so I figured it was from one of Dini/Nguyen's Hush stories, but I think he only did digital colors for most of those. Definitely was Loeb and Lee's Hush story I was thinking of.
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>>83412972
Saving his mom is what causes Flashpoint world. He goes back again to let her die so things can go back to normal/New 52
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>>83409785

How many evil speedsters do we freaking need?
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>>83411406

Johns actually was planning on having a ZOOM CORP thing happen with Eobard and Hunter teaming up and forming a legion of Evil Speedsters throughout time or something like that before Flashpoint was changed into a reboot kick off.
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>>83413256
They will keep adding them until we have enough for Zoom corps war

Johns playing the long game
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>>83412107

Why wouldn't you want a good writer on JSA? What is wrong with based Orlando.
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>>83410950

Yeah it's one of those costumes that's pretty much perfect and doesn't really need to be altered.
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>>83409785
When did Godspeed appeared?
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>>83413842
now, he's a new character
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Geoff "mah retcon" Johns, can we just return to pre-Flashpoint continuity where Barry's mother is alive and doesn't have to live the Batman/Superman origin story.
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>>83413911
No, his new origin gave a motivation to the character.
Silver Age Allen is bland, he is only defined by his sacrifice in COIE
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>>83413911
>>83414288
I think it's kind of clever that it was a future villain who did it, but giving him a generic "dead parent" origin isn't really any better to make him motivation if that's the goal.

Kind of felt like Blitz retread and maybe Johns would have had him save his mom for real in the end if the run had panned out. The amount of influence that Mirror Master's mirror had on Barry's mindset at the time of Flashpoint got kind of swept under the rug at least. If he had just used a time bubble to save her probably nothing weird happens.
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>>83411415
The creators, you dummy. It's already been said Godspeed is going to be murdering speedsters.
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>>83409841
Wait is Iris back to being white or is that a different lady?
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>>83415350
Comics Iris was always white

They started coloring her a little darker when chocolate Wally was introduced but she was never race swapped
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>>83410219
Not in this wonky universe but Barry's getting memories from the previous universe because of Speed Force.

It's the same reason DC Universe Rebirth Wally can remember his whole life before Flashpoint -- he's just been tumbling in the Speed Force for years which gives you a multiversal and timeless perspective.
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>>83411185
He kills people, dude. There's no acceptable killers in the Flash section of DC.
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>>83415350
Iris was always white in DC, that was just Dalhouse's shitting coloring before.
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I thought the line work was very sketchy and i didn't like it the first time they previewed
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>>83409808
I hope when Pre52 and Nu52 merge, they retcon out rapey Thawne.
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I'm not loving this art yet but set up is ok, they get the backstory done in the preview and tie it into the first story. I'm in.

The immediate neck snap is hilarious and a
>for you
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>>83416319
Rape Thawne seems like the logical extension of his fanboyism tbqh

t. not Gordon
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>>83416319
God Booth cannot draw and that colorist is so bad.
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>>83416398

"IV FOUND IT BARRY, THE WAY TO DIP YOU INTO ABSOLUTE MISERY, NOW SPREAD THOSE CHEEKS"
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>>83416973
Racing to the booty
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The overall art on this looks absolute shit.
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Haven't really had an interest in a Flash book since Wally stopped being the lead character. I'm not even a big characterfag, but it just doesn't seem right to me.
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This will depend on how much ginger Wally will be in it. I have zero interest in yet another evil speedster and Speed Force'd civillians arc.
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>>83416496
It is a travesty that they're doing the art on Wally's return part II.
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>>83409702
YES! Thank God for Carmine Di Giandomenico's bonerific art! Flash has always had luckluster art, but this looks good, hopefully Giandomenico stays around for a while.
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>>83409702
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>>83416319
I fucking hate Booth so badly, he's such a shitty Jim Lee
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>>83423690
Atleast he makes his deadlines.
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>>83409702

Coloring is definitely too bright. Hell, they made Wally look like a white ginger in this one.
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>>83409863
No, even though Barry was living with Hartley by the end of last run.
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>>83409808
Oh wow. So glad they're acknowledging that bit.
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