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No...
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How dare they rape my memories like that!
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But... smiley faces are impossible!
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>muh Watchmen is a untouchable classic!
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>>83408248
But it is, cunt.
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>>83408212
thing ever ends
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>>83408212
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>>83408248
It's not untouchable, I don't think anyone would care if people parodied it. It's just a complete narrative, there's no reason to make it part of an extended universe it's story is over.
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I just love how dumb that page is. That pin doesn't mean much in Watchmen universe, but it's here because the audience knows about it. It perfectly symbolizes how misguided this attempt to incorporate Watchmen into DCU is.
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>>83408248
lmao saying this is ruining watchmen is like saying hydra cap is ruining captain america.
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>>83408277
This. I mean it could have been a crumpled up page from Rorschach's journal or something which would have been relevant.
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>>83408273
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>>83408248
>>83408283
No one is saying that is ruining Watchmen, retard. It's ruining DC.
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>>83408277
alright but this page was slick though
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>>83408316
So? Sooner they go down, sooner we'll have DC-free board.
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>>83408316
>muh Watchmen is a untouchable classic!
lol where do you see dc in this quote
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>>83408212
i dont know hwere theyre going with dis
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>>83408387
>Manhat tried making a world with people
>they were just a bunch of automatons
>Decides there's something more he's missing, makes a new world piecemeal of stuff taken from Earth-0 to try to figure out how to make whatever he missed
>has been killing anyone that threatens to undo his work before he figures it out
>Wally spearheads an attempt to take back what he stole
>????
>Manhat dindu nuttin
>some bigger bad shows up
>????
>Manhat finds an answer, gives back what he took, everything pre-flashpoint is back in continuity
>Profit
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>>83408316
How?
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>>83408447
So the over monitor is Dr Manhattan?
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>>83408248
It's not about being untouchable it's about the story not fitting in the wider dc universe.
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>>83408857
It was my impression that Rebirth is a world that Manhattan created?
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>>83408857
You are suggesting, that in the 52+ earths, not a single one could be the Watchmen earth? In a Multiverse where captain carrot, the Blaxploitstion League, and Earth TMZ exist?
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>>83408263
watchmen sucks
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>>83408387
>Manhatten left to create life
>Creates the DC universe
>Intends create a world where superheroes work
>It doesn't because Manhatten is ultimately influenced by his own grim gritty world
>Tries rebooting every few years but it gets more grim each time
>Finally decides to get rid of the whole thing

You know how Crona witnessed the dawn of creation and saw a BLUE hand? You think that's a coincidence?
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>>83408890
They don't exist, there's a map that lists the known multiverse. There is a world that has the characters they were based off, but there isn't a Watchmen universe.
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If they wanted to represent writers misunderstanding watchmen shouldent they have used somebody from outside both universes.
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>>83408948
Retroactive Continuity
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>>83408276
I don't know as much as I hate this it's in no way a complete narrative that was kind of the point of the ending
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>>83408948
There were also a few worlds that were listed as being unknown, so why wouldn't the Watchmen simply be one of the few that was purposefully left blank to be filled in at a later date?
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Its a red herring, you idiots
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>>83408950
If they wanted to homage Alan Moore, they should have used Mr Mxyzptlk. Have him want to reboot the universe to make it more gritty because he is a fan of Watchmen.
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>>83408857
Watchmen "doesn't fit" because the story was made to shit on superheroes. Rebirth is taking Watchmen off that pestle and saying that everything that it said about superheroes was wrong.
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>>83408333
Hi Disney
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This is like legit bad fanfiction writen by a 13 year old.

So usual DC, really.
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>>83408948
>but there isn't a Watchmen universe.
it's one of the seven question marks
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>>83408948
there are like 5 blank worlds you cockeating mongoloid faggot
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>>83409000
Why is earth 10 crossed out?
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>>83408954
>>83408968
>>83409003

Manhatten could be the Over Monitor. Which would mean the Watchmen universe predates the DC multiverse
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>>83408273
>>83408212
Ohmygod we playin pogs now?
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>>83408993
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Watchmen a shit
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>>83408993
>DC hires men

oh my god, men are the worst
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>>83408277

Holy shit.

I... I don't even want to try and comprehend the level of your stupidity.
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>>83409051
Did I say Marvel was better? No.
Fucking giant baby.
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>>83409054
Pretty much this. Its by far the single most overrated comic I've ever read.
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>>83408993
i bet DC doesnt even support womyn in the STEM fields
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>>83409051
>>83409064
>>83409076
DCfags have such fragile ego
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>>83408993
like, ugh

i cant even
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>>83408333

Mouseketeer please go.
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>>83409000
>using the old map
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>>83409051
>>83409064
>>83409076
This butthurt
>b-bbuh mahvel
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>>83408993
does DC have any highly relevant discussions of pronouns? I dont fucking think so
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>>83408948
That's just the local multiverse, fool.
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>>83408993
and they don't have even have comics that speak to preadolescent girls, who are by far the largest market for comics
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>>83409076
>cyclops
>two eyes
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>>83408993
AND they don't support diversity like we do.
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>>83409093
Please tell me this isn't a real page.
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>this much triggering
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>>83409123
Oh, it is
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>>83408987
>ebirth is taking Watchmen off that pestle and saying that everything that it said about superheroes was wrong.

Other than misspelling pedestal you're 100% on the mark.

Also, Rebirth doesn't change Watchmen.

If you still have your Watchmen books you still have Watchmen.

On a side note I'm really fucking sick of people calling the characters in Watchmen "the Watchmen". The first group is called the Minute Men, the second group is called "Crime Busters" but they don't actually form a group because the Comedian laughs at the random closeted gay dude.
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>>83409076
I would love to read a story about a little girl constantly trying to get superpowers in the marvel universe.

How did she forget about all of the high profile female heroes around by the time cyclops wore that uniform too?
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>>83408993
>me when I see a DC Comic Book
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>>83409064
>>83409076
>>83409083
>>83409093
>anybody who disagrees must be a Marvel shill! no true DCfan would dislike this!!
why do people still care about the big 2?
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>>83408993
You know what else we have that DC (ugh) doesn't? patriarchy crushing thighs!

Can I get a YES SISTER up in here?!
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>>83408993
and WE have by far the cutest fandom!
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>>83409076

What is this page?!
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>>83409083
>You don't need a y-chromosome to be a hero
> You need balls
I'm getting mixed messages here.
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>>83409154
>Not Faith

Fuck off
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>>83409152
actually its about ethics in comic books
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>>83408212
Yes
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>reading big two

When will you grow up?
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>>83409091
>>83409081
>>83409152
We're really becoming neo-/v/ at this point, say anything negative about Sony/DC and get ready for all the fanboys calling you a desperate PCuck/Marvelfag
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>>83409010
Of course the thread falls apart when I ask a question
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>>83409047
Post Batpogs
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>>83409154
EEEY GURL
U SMASHING THAT MF PATRIARCHY TOO?
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>>83409152
I legit think I broke someone by making a teeny tiny remark that DC might be bad.
I'm just laughing.
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>>83408331
Gonna agree with you on that: Manhattan using his old watch repair skills to fix a broken tooth on a gear with the iron-rich sands of mars through psychokinesis? That's beautiful, and deserves to, to... it deserves to BE.

the rest of the plot can hang itself. i'm happy with how this one page turned out.
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>>83409174
/tv/ was a mistake
Mods should have banned live action discussion years ago
now its too late
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>>83409081
>>83409091
>>83409152
>>83409174
This has happened in nearly every thread over the Watchmen thing in Rebirth. Usually using the same panels/pages, too.
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>>83408993
The best thing about The Walt Disney Company's Marvel Comics Comics is that their heroes really get me and and behave like me.

See here how Kamala is also a fanfic writing tumblr dork? It speaks to me as a person!
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>>83409179
It got eaten by evil memes from outside the multiverse.
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I love when a thing happens and I really like it, but then I like it twice as much because that thing causes a lot of butthurt among autists. Double-win.
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ayy
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>>83409010
Earth-10 is Nazi world

I'm assuming someone advised against slapping a swastika on it so they edited into an X before going public with the map
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>>83409197
Everything about the issue. Before the badge reveal was great though
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>>83409200
so its just one guy being very autistic
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>>83409161

Holy shit!

Shouldn't someone, a self proclaimed feminist, care more about a Wonder Woman movie?

Especially as Captain Marvel was, you know, originally a dude. While Wonder Woman was specifically made as a chick?

Also, who the fuck gives half a damn about Captain Marvel?

I just remember Captain Marvel as the person Rogue got their powers from. To be fair I haven't read many Marvel titles since the 90s.

Do people actually read Captain Marvel though?
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WE
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Reminder that Black Panther #1, and not DC crap, is best selling comic from April, white boi
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>>83408993
Plus, Marvel understands how to keep from misgendering people in the year 2015+1

As a polygendered transniggered allosystemic fictive, this is an important issue to me.
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>>83409179
>>83409205
No, gomennassai monogotari itakadimasu, it's actually the Nazi Superman planet.
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>>83409173
kek, this guy only reads machoor comics for machoor people like himself.
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>>83409202
Kamala is best girl. Better than any DC whore.
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>>83409219
>>83409219
Oh, so it's a continuation of the media's refual to refer to Nazis in any way.
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>>83409223
Kate Leth works for Marvel, she'll promote Marvel

But to be fair i think that was before the WW movie was a confirmed thing. I think
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>>83408993
And I like that Marvel heroes have to fight against the same arguments that (ugh) MEN use against me online all the FREAKING TIME!
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>>83409226
WUZ
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>>83409223
>Shouldn't someone, a self proclaimed feminist, care more about a Wonder Woman movie?
Why DC's current movie track record?
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>muh Mahvel
>muh DC
fuck off with your company war shit.
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>>83409187
I definitely am, syster!
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>>83409210
That's sweet. I like the art too.
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>DCfags confirmed for sonic fandom
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>>83409163
>thinking women can't have nuts

I CANT EVEN
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>>83409202
I miss the winged sloth backpack.
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>>83409253
THE CRYSTAL GEMS
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>>83408993
at the end of the day though, I think the best thing about marvel is that they are capable of portraying people without privilege in a positive light.

I bet DC doesn't even HAVE a transgendered character, do they?!
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>>83409010
We don't go to earth 10 anymore.
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>>83409223
The one true Captain Marvel is Billy
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>>83409202
God, Kamala is best teenage girl.
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>>83408993
So let's give a shoutout for my girls over at Marvel!
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>>83409260
Yeah, can't we all come together, as one, to hate on this one shitty thing the thread's about?
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>>83409253
STEVE
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>>83409231
Why are the amazing friends of spider-man fighting over an alien demon baby?
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>>83409316
Fighting the good fight and sticking it to (ugh) MEN and (ssh) WHITES every day!
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>>83409304
>I bet DC doesn't even HAVE a transgendered character, do they?!
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>>83408212

>People getting ass blasted over Cap being Hydra
>Even though it's not the first time it's happened and status quo will kick in
>Watchmen being integrated into DC canon somehow not a shitstorm

How is it people get triggered over a temporary heel turn, but canon being irrevocably sullied isn't coaxing enough incandescent nerd rage to rival the sun? Watchmen is the definitive anti-superhero comic. It has no place within the context of regular DC continuity. It's a shallow marketing move at the expense of integrity. This is Before Watchmen levels of shameless milking.
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>>83409328
stop OTHERING him JEEZE
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>>83409304
Yes they do read demon knights it has a transexual and a Muslim and even lesbian rulers.

And they pull it off far better then marvel does outside of kamala

Why can't more marvel books be like that
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>>83409247

Okay I dig that, but seriously who gives a shit about Captain Marvel?

Like, why wasn't she happy about Storm, or Jean Grey being in movies?

Especially Storm. Storm is legitimately a more interesting character than Captain Marvel?

I understand that Haley Berry sucks huge donkey ass as storm, but there's no reason to believe Bree Larson won't suck as Carol Denvers too (they've both won Oscars). I mean I dig that tumblr wasn't around in 2000, but I can't remember any geek-girls being that super excited about Storm.

Also, shouldn't SJWs be even more keen on Storm because she's both a woman and black?

I just want to know who actually reads Captain Marvel?!
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>>83408993
>this is LITERALLY what it's like talking to DCis Scum
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>>83409083
>it still sucks
Like everything else that women attempt then suck and fail at that men have pretty much always done and continue to do because men have always done the hard, shitty backbreaking work in society that nobody else wants to do. SJW shit in comics needs to fuck off. And it's bullshit that femtardism is lumped with racism and civil rights. SJWs and femenist never faced/face any legitimate problems or oppression and especially none like actual racial discrimination like actual slavery, lyniching,etc. and not black lives matter horseshit
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>>83409081
>>83409091
>>83409124
>>83409174
>>83409188
here, you need this more than I do f a m
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>>83409352
To this day I still have no idea what the original says I should check it out
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>>83409336
Plenty of people have been complaining about the Watchmen thing, just their voices have been drowning in a sea of "B-BUT MAHVEL" and "DUDE, METANARRATIVE LMAO"
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>>83409047
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>>83409367
...that is the original, man

That's what it went to print with
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>>83409379
No I don't believe you surely not they wouldent waste good ink on that right...
Right
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>>83409223
I used to semi read her back when i paid for comics. Her works in the modern era suffer from a lack of direction that's practically schizophrenic I remember reading her book and then suddenly depowered secret agent nonsense out of nowhere that utterly confused me.
She can't really maintain a series because Marvel repeatedly cancels and reboots her series as they shove everything into trying to push her. Other characters would have gained enough substance to be a fleshed out character by now from the sheer amount of writing for her but Carol's character seems to be constantly having her progress erased rather than try to make something interesting from her screwups.
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>>83409350
Dude, you're talking about a shallow bitch just praising the idea of a female-lead cape movie because feminism
All these questions are pointless. And Marvel has been trying for a while to make Carol their WW, so yes, slowly a (pretty cancerous) fanbase was created, hence why she's so prominent nowadays
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>>83408993

BTW are you reading Hellcat? It's the CUUUTEST!
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>>83409336

Because people actually read Rebirth and enjoyed it.

No one read Captain America: Steve Rogers #1 they just saw the last panel, and the few people who did read it were like "meh" but WTF Heil Hydra.
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>>83409393
They did. Just further proof that the Big 2 are shit.
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>>83409393
Angela Queen of Hel is clickbait in comic form. actually getting mad over it is giving the writer to much credit
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>>83408993
It makes me GIGGLESQUEE every time! :3
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>>83408993
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>>83409336
Cap turning Hydra was like the least interesting thing to happen that entire week.
Fucking OMD is possibly being torn to shreds in front of Quesada and noone seems to have noticed.
I also don't see as much assblasting over Cpatain hydra as I see idiots actually being stupid enough to fall for Red Skull's trickery.
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>>83409416
I'm giving you a one-time girl-power pass
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>>83408993
>DC = ANTI Social Justice Club!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeAKX_0wZWY
I think comics have become a big fuckin disgusting intertextual mess. to much referencing of itself for a elbow nudge like "hey do you get it? you remember this?" for cheap headlines or just to pull on nostalgia for sales
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>It's yet another distract from valid criticism with company wars episode

When will the network stop replaying this episode?
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>>83409210
>laughingbrides.jpg
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Why does this thread still exist
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somebody please tell me all these aren't real
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>>83409441
someone post the gender reversed one
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>>83409462
because the mods are fucking useless.
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>>83409441
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>>83409487
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>>83409394

But why push Captain Marvel if no one is really buying her?

Why not push a Storm or something solo series? Go for a female character people actually read and enjoy? Maybe She-Hulk? Wasn't there a not bad She-Hulk comic a couple of years ago?

Also, if Kamala is doing well why not push her? Why are you pushing a who-gives-a-fuck like Carol fucking Denvers?!
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>>83409467
The Big 2 are lead, written and try to appeal to the lowest common denominators, yes
Welcome to capes
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>>83409498
So they can say they did. It's a prestige title.

They're taking the hit monetarily so they can say they have a female hero.
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>>83409498
>Marvel
>pushing any X-Men
>pushing any Hulks
>when they don't have the rights back
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>>83409498
Because Storm is Fox and not really a solo character
Because She-Hulk is a female version of another, more famous character. Also Universal
Because Kamala is the legacy character of a legacy character. Also maybe Hollywood isn't confident with muslim-led movies
Come on, dude
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>>83409405
Rebirth was shit, though. The first chapter felt more like a sales catalog showing upcoming products than an actual comic book, the Wally/Barry OTP shit was so poorly paced it was comical, and the shitty dialogue combined with the constant reiterating the point about "hope and love" felt reminiscent of a bad bronze-age Marvel comic. If you or anyone actually liked it and are of posting age you should feel ashamed.
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>>83409498
Those are attached to other movie licenses. Marvel only cares about things if they can make movies out of them
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>>83409547

THIS THIS THIS. Rebirth is f*eaking sh*t. I am hype as H*CK for Civil War II, though. Can we just talk about that instead, please?

So which side do you think is right? Who do you think will die?
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>>83409547
Why did you even read that piece of sh*t when we have an all new all different changeup on the way?!

You need to make sure you're caught up with all the latest Walt Disney Company's Marvel Comics before Marvel Now! shakes everything up forever!
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>>83409516
>>83409528
>>83409543

And this is why I will continue to refer to Marvel-drones as Mouseketeers.

They're literally letting their comic books suffer because of movie rights. Like, I can understand trying to pump out some cool comics around the same time the movies come out so people who see the movies and want to get into the comics have something they can easily grab.

But this shit is fucking ridiculous. Like they're going to throw away several decades worth of story because some other studio owns the rights to a character?

Like, if a Fox X-Men movie is good and it makes more people fans of the comics don't they realise that that means more money for Marvel? Sure Marvel doesn't get any of the movie money, but it gets all the comic money.

Fucking hell Marvel, you're a comic book company!
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>>83409467
Sorry Anon, they're real and here to stay.
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>>83409583
>I am hype as H*CK for Civil War II
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>>83409498
They have been trying to push her practically nonstop for almost 2 decades. At this point it's sheer stubbornness.
Most of their popular and iconic female characters are on the X-men plus the X-men are too much of a team to generally have solo books. Gambit is one of the only X-men that don't immediately make you question why the hell they don't call their friends to clear the entire situation up in one panel.
Storm also had a solo series recently.
She-Hulk suffers from Muh misogyny cries thanks to people that don't remotely understand her character or the fact that she has been more than that for decades. Bendis also doesn't like her so we've been expecting her to be unceremoniously offed for years now.

As it stands currently Carol has gained the vaunted normalfag recognition to pretend she isn't usually garbage.
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>>83409547

I'm not saying you're wrong, but you're literally the first person I've spoken too who doesn't like DC Rebirth.

Sure, there are a bunch of people who don't like the Watchmen thing, but everyone, save you thus far, actually enjoyed Rebirth.
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>>83409632

But if Kamala is actually doing well and is written well why not push Kamala instead of Carol who-gives-a-fuck Denvers?!

Is it cause Disney is still super racist?
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>>83409653
Not that anon, but that's not true, there's even a couple of negative reviews around, the problem is, again, DC fanboys get triggered so they either label critics as [other company] fans or as unreasonable people that only ever read Watchmen and that don't really care about comics as much as they do, because apparently Rebirth is saving the medium or whatever
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>>83409608
You know the worst thing? They ACTIVELY DEFEND their books getting shit on because of movies. They say it's unfair for Marvel to provide advertisement to Sony or Fox for free, and that they're making money so they're obviously in the right, not the fans.
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>>83409719
>mfw
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>>83409608
>Like, if a Fox X-Men movie is good and it makes more people fans of the comics don't they realise that that means more money for Marvel? Sure Marvel doesn't get any of the movie money, but it gets all the comic money.

Is this the part where we pretend Marvel cancelled all X-books? Or that Deadpool isn't still pushed hard as fuck?

>And this is why I will continue to refer to Marvel-drones as Mouseketeers.
>>83409692
>Is it cause Disney is still super racist?
Ah, right, silly me thinking you were trying to have a serious argument
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>>83409692
They are pushing Kamala and all of her current hero generation. They're on the Avengers despite still being children and the horrible ethical ramifications inherent to that. She's getting the standard push all new heroes get.
You're also forgetting that she's too new to have a bunch of stories for Hollywood to do a bad ripoff of.

Shoving her into movies is almost immediately going to cause ISIS to be involved in the plot despite that having nothing to do with her.
Using Kamala would be a disaster from both sides as /pol/ and SJW unite to hate it.
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>>83409719

Oh, I'm not saying that anon is making shit up.

But everyone I've spoken too has liked Rebirth.

NO ONE I've spoken too actually enjoyed Captain America: Steve Roger #1. Most people who read it thought it was "meh".
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>>83409758

I'm not saying Marvel is racist. I'm saying Disney is; there's a big fucking difference there.

How long did it take them to have a super hero of color in any of the Marvel movies (who actually did something)?

Also, why didn't Disney make a Black Widow movie?
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>>83409775
Ok? Why are we even talking about this, Rebirth is a pseudo-reboot/relaunch of the DC line while the new Cap comic is just a new Cap comic

>>83409739
>>83409728
Joke's on you, i haven't bought a (current) Marvel or DC book in almost 3 years
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>>83409762

That's reasonable.

Why not a Black Widow movie then?
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>>83409010
It's a refrence to how it used to be Earth-X.
>>83408993
You know, the cuck who spammed the thread is pathetic, but Company Wärs bait like yours is the real cancer.
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>>83409608
if you gave a crap about X-Men you would have bought enough X books in the 90's and 00's to keep the company afloat, then they never would have had to sell the cinematic rights off

you did this, all of you
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>>83409805
>How long did it take them to have a super hero of color in any of the Marvel movies (who actually did something)?
It took them nothing

>Heimdall in Thor
>Rhodey in IM2

>le Black Widow deserves a movie meme
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>>83409816

I was responding to someone commenting about how everyone is losing their shit over Captain America: Steve Rogers one and fuck all people are losing their shit over Rebirth.

I was saying the reason why lies more in people enjoying/not enjoying the particular books due to quality of writing.
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Why do people pretend the X-Men are getting shafted? They're still getting at least 7 books a month (more if you count Deadpool as an X-Character).
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>>83409840

>Heimdall in Thor

Does literally nothing

>War Machine in Iron Man II

Literally gets his suit taken over by "burd lash".

Also, what the fuck is wrong with the Black Widow movie?

A Black Widow movie with Daredevil as her sidekick in San Francisco would be great!
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>>83409852
>I was saying the reason why lies more in people enjoying/not enjoying the particular books due to quality of writing.

Nah, it relies on Twitter, click-bait culture making the Hydra-Cap reveal a bigger, more "scandalous" deal than what it actually is
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>criticize DC
>"b-but Marvel's worse!"

every time
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>>83409819
Black Widow hasn't been worth anything since the 70's. A well done movie could exist and she has a ridiculous amount of normalfag support. The only bad thing I could say is that there are tons of female characters I personally would rather see.
A spy/action movie with black widow and good writing would be god tier.
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>>83409855
because people don't read comics, they just use them as political talking points
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>>83409893
How well did Angelina Jolie's SALT do? Same thing right?
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>>83409888
>stick hand on stove
>get burned

every time

You know, if you haven't learned by now, you might well have some developmental issues. Have your caregiver check this site:
http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/developmentaldisabilities/facts.html
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>>83409901
>buy comic you don't like
>"Why are you supporting a book you hate you fucking characterfag?!"

>don't buy book you hate, and wait for a better one
>"If you actually cared you'd buy the book!"

errytiem
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Nice samefagging, fagoot
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>>83409917
Anon, one can criticize DC without caring abou Marvel at all! Crazy, I know.
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>>83409931
>making the same mistake >>83409825 did
>obviously copied and pasted

embarassing. at least do your own work
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>>83409819
because producers, the ones funding these things, look at the statistical trends and say 'well, clearly it's impossible for a female led action movie to sell well' regardless of how they're looking at crap like the Resident Evil movies while ignoring the Alien franchise

Captain Marvel is only greenlit because it was pitched as 'Mar-Vell does action stuff, for the boys, Carol loves Mar-Vell, for the girls'

many of Hollywood's problems stem from producers treating graphs and charts like the manifestation of some all-knowing Loa, despite marketers openly admitting you just can't predict with any reliability what will and won't be a hit
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>>83409925
>saying this on 4chan where every comic is meticulously made available for piracy
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>>83409967
To be fair it might've been another person trying to start an epic reaction bandwagon.
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>>83409975

Then why is Wonder Woman coming out with what looks like a lot of money behind it and a fairly prestigious female director? How come WB greenlit a female-solo superhero in phase 1 of their movie-verse when Marvel isn't getting around to it until late phase 3?

Especially considering they had a female superhero as a fucking founding member of the Avengers?

>>83409893

The Black Widow I was talking about is the 70s Black Widow. And I wanna see her as the main and Daredevil as the side kick, plus I love the idea of how weird their sex-life was because of what Conway was allowed to depict due to the Comics Code Authority.
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>>83410062
valid counterpoint. I retract my statement
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>>83409210
Good WW story
>>83409187
Bad WW story
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>>83408333
>/tv/fag thinks everyone hates DC comics because their movies are bad
Fuck off. This is the comic board, and we like both Big 2.
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>>83409967
Well what can I say, I'm a lazy piece of shit.
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>>83409319
But it's not shitty.
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>>83409374
Can we have a separate thread for Batpongs ?
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>>83409441
Why did she punch her out ? She surrendered.
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>>83408955
>>83408931

No, it fucking wasn't. Ending wasn't referring to the story, ending was referring to message of Watchmen - there is no "ultimate way to save the world" - we need to save the world every day, one after another, by living it.

Fucking Morrisonfags can't comprehend that good art is telling us something about our world instead of just being meta-circlejerk.

This is why I hate Morrison. Not because he's bad, but because comic book fans became retroatictively retarded and unable to understand basic messages in art.
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>>83410225
sure. hang on
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>>83410442


pog thread
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>>83410414
woah this is some fresh bait
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>>83410414
>Ending wasn't referring to the story, ending was referring to message of Watchmen - there is no "ultimate way to save the world" - we need to save the world every day, one after another, by living it.
This times 10. Not everything is a meta commentary.
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>>83410414
Wow, I guess Alan Moore really is a fucking hack
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>>83408337
>"He figured out my post was retarded and called me a retard!"

>h-heh... s-spoken like a true re-retard, retard...
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>>83409739
Can we have a realistic interpretation of how she would look like with that face in the real world ?
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>tfw archiefag sonicfag
>tfw don't get in the shitflinging of DC v Marvel
>tfw can't help but get involved over the reboot tho

Where were you when Archie Sonic had a better reboot than both DC reboots?
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>>83408212
Who knew the batcave was placed below the cemetery where the Comedian was buried.
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>>83409076
That fat little skeleton on that fat kid. Yes, that sure is exactly the way skeletons work. If you're fat, your bones are fat too.
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>>83410816
Ian brought Dulcy back.

DC Wins.
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>>83410887
I think the pin was clean when Dan left it in the Comedian's grave
...so basically this means the pin disappeared from it's universe before it was ever buried
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>People misunderstood Watchmen!! The actual meaning of Watchmen was to support the unchanging status quo! Not being a critique of it!
>If it wasnt for Alan Moore and his damn grimdark comic books I wouldnt have written Darkseid War. I swear Alan Moore made me write that shit book! Its because I misunderstood Watchmen!
>Justice league origins is bad because I was trying to emulate Watchmen and his grimdark shit, not because I have faults as writer
>Damn Alan Moore! Superboy prime? What with that edgy fuck? Oh yeah, he was created before Watchmen...mhhh...damn Alan Moore
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>>83410970
>Alan Moore is a good writer!

L O L!
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>>83410970
>Why are people upset we keep whoring out a stolen property, lol, just look at that metatext!
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>>83410956

He'll fix her. The first issue had meh art but she was at least a character rather than a laughing stock.

He fixed Geoffry, he can fix spousal abuse dragon.
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>>83410970
Truly Geoff Johns is the worst.
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>>83411024
>stolen

Alan, it's naptime.
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>>83410247
Jane Foster is an asshole and/or cancer makes her cranky.
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