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>"X-Men: Apocalypse," from 20th Century Fox, took in $79.8 million over the four-day weekend, according to final figures Tuesday

Are you ready for Marvel to drop Inhumans and save the mutants from Fox?
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>>83359445
Can't fucking wait, then we can have Inhumans and Mutants be the same fucking thing in the comics, it's just Inhumans have the X-Gene forced to grow in them while Mutants let it develop over time. Can't wait for the war against the royal family and the return of King Summers.
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I can see the panic at Marvel Comics

>QUICK FUCKING QUICK CANCEL DEATH OF X
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>>83359445
>Disney buys back the Mutant License
>makes good X-Men movies

>we get to see comic editorial shit their pants as they scramble to redeem one of their foremost brands they've thrown down the shredder out of spite
>we get 2-3 events of >>83359748
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>>83359748
No, you know what? Kill all of the Mutants, then when Fox finally lets go, bring back an alternate version of he X-Men salvaged from Secret Wars, wiping the slate clean for X-continuity and raking in the $$.
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>>83359892
>The movies as a sense of natural progress show the eventual acceptance of the mutants by humanity by and large.
>Comics in an attempt to emulate the movies finally bring characters out of the 60's.
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The only mutant worth bringing over to Marvel Studios is Wolverine. And Inhumans is scrapped anyway.
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So what's up with that Legion show?
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I'm confused how they will integrate the Mutants into the MCU. It feels much too late and most of the famous plots have been done.

Hell, you can't do Magento is Wanda's father now.
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>>83360014
Mutants where hiding all along.
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>>83360014
>I'm confused how they will integrate the Mutants into the MCU. It feels much too late and most of the famous plots have been done.

In Infinity War, the celestials visit Earth.
As a natural reaction, a built-in mechanism to proximity to the celestials, the X-Gene is spontaneously activated in ten percent of the population.
Kids randomly explode. People suddenly fly into the stratosphere. A lot of people die by accident and mutantphobia begins.
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They're not gonna do this unless Deadpool 2 and Wolverine 3 unperform/get bad reception which I highly doubt will happen considering both of those have much better material to work with

Now if it did, then I think Fox may be in trouble but they can keep pumping out X-movies so I think the best that would happen is an AvX film
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>>83359956
It would honestly be an interesting way to do it to not make "mutants" a huge group in universe, and just have a couple of select ones added.

You wouldn't even really have to rework any origins or anything, just say "he's a mutant" and people will know what that is: he has a power because of a genetic mutation.
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>Fox
>Ever giving up any rights to Marvel for any reason whatsoever

Remember when /co/ thought Marvel would get the Fantastic Four back because Fant4stic flopped?
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>>83360053
Thats terrible
>>83360096
Why would the Celestials show up? To try and retrieve the stones?
>>83360014
It is rather late for such a game changer, really it is, and I dont know what else can be done in terms of story either. But if it were a must, perhaps the solution lies in the Inhumans themselves. What if the inhuman gene splinters off into another evolutionary dormant gene, the mutant X gene, that doesnt require the crystals/gas? What if the in the Inhuman movie (if its back on) the events/fallout of that story results in the VERY rare case of mutants entering society?
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>>83359445
>>Comics in an attempt to emulate the movies finally bring characters out of the 60's.
I really hope they don't, i want more x-men movies, they need to stay away from the marvel shitty formula
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At least the new Alice in Wonderland did good.
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>>83359445
Lol, ain't gonna happen. Fox will simply trying again.
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>>83360186
I still think that happened and that's how Fox got permission to make the TV shows
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>>83359445
Why are Disney shills so delusional? Why do Disney shills want the X-Men to be part of the MCU when, on the whole, the X films are of much better quality than the MCU?
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>>83360274
>Why would the Celestials show up? To try and retrieve the stones?
As good a reason as any. Maybe the last time the stones were gathered Knowhere happened. If some of the microbes I was studying somehow got a tactical nuke I'd be worried too.
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This holiday weekend was ass for the box office.And looking at upcoming weekends with TMNT and the future bomb Warcraft, we might not see another hit until Central Intelligence and Finding Dory come out.
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>>83360350

Most of them werent alive when x-1 opened
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>>83360186
Thats still a possibility actually. Negotiations like this take time given the money involved, and FOX may consider cutting the FF so they can focus on the mutants. And besides, no one wants to be assigned that nightmare project nor fund another fiasco
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>>83360350
You know they really only look at domestic right? If the movie only did 100 million in the US it'd be deemed a huge failure.
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>>83360350
>Why do Disney shills want the X-Men to be part of the MCU
It's a very loud minority
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>>83360177

Just make it like early X-Men where there were only a few. Start with the real first class, and slowly bring them in, focusing on each new character instead of cramming them in for pointless cameos like Fox does.
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>>83359445
Why? It's not like Marvel movies are any better than X-Movies.
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>>83360350
>Implying the studio sees all of that

It's Revenue, not profit. After taxes and distribution costs and the theatres cut, they get half of the worldwide take. Add marketing costs, which in the case of big movies can be more than the cost of production and it's generally a good rule of thumb that a movie like this doesn't make a profit off of the movie itself until it makes anywhere from 2 to 3 times it;s production budget.

Now, X men does have some other things going for it like licensing and merch but the only licensing deals I've seen for this are Red Robin Burgers and Hanes underwear and virtually no mechandise, so it's not exactly taking over the stores like Force Awakens did with their Finn jackets and Kylo Ren masks.
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>>83360392
>we might not see another hit until Central Intelligence
>hit
>Central Intelligence
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>>83359503
Aren't they separate species both created by Celestials?
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>>83360350
Anon, Apocalypse could make 12 times its budget and people on /co/ would still call it a flop.
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>implying the company that did a last minute switch from jugs to quickie just because quick was going to be in ultron would sell back the rights

>implying they wont slap dead pool in the next X-film and call it a day
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>>83360550
>A Kevin Hart and Dwayne Johnson movie not being a hit in 2016
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>making Marvel out to be saviours when they've been bitter cunts pushing Xmen to the side for Inhumans
Ultimate Marvel Shillery
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>>83359445
Will this encourage super hero writers to back off the same tired formula of "bad guy destroys some cities?" That was the majority of the complaints I saw was that the formula is getting old, and people are just using this film as a scapegoat.
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>>83360577
Celestials mades mutants. Kree made inhumans (and similar species on other planets)
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>>83360350
production budget does not include marketing
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>>83359445
movie and TV faggotry really needs to get it's own board or be banned to /tv/. These daily threads are fucking cancer
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>>83360350
Movies have to make triple their budget in order to not be a failure.

Apocalypse bombed.
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>>83360186
I remember when /co/ was convinced that fox would never ever give up the Daredevil rights and that reboot with no script was totally going to happen in under a year

I'm literally sitting on a /co/ right now that thinks there will be another X-Men movie without Lawrence, Fassbender, or Jackman, and also thinks there will be some kind of Man of Steel sequel, and also thinks Deadpool movies will always be made for pennies and rake in hundreds of millions of pure gold profits

things change, anon

>>83360280
no, that's fucked

it is solidly ahead of expectations but this weekend is just death for movies
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>>83360599
>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/people/chart/?id=kevinhart.htm
The gods say you're crazy
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>>83360014
>No, more mutants.
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>>83360577
Celestials made Eternals, deviants, and mutants. The kree wanted to make there own Eternals and made humans genetically modified humans, and those humans made terrigen, the mean green evolution machine.
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>>83360603
That's just business. Why give Fox free promotion? It's not like X men sold as many comic books or merchandise as Avengers in the last decade anyway, so fuck it.
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>>83360331
because you're retarded?

FOX already held that right, they've even exploited it on two occasions - once to make a tv movie pilot for a series that didn't happen, once to sue Marvel over Mutant X

you fucking cretin
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>>83360666
Trips confirm Apoc for the end of X-Men!!
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>>83360014
Dr. Strange accidentally merges the two universes.
MCU Wanda is now part of Peter Maximoff's family.
Done.
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>>83360014
secret wars, bring fantastic 4 over too
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>>83360666
Satan confirms
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>>83360603
For pushing the X-Men to the side, Marvel will forever and always be cunts. No matter what they do, this will fellow them until the death of the company.
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>>83360681
Every movie he's starred in on there post 2011 was a financial success. And with Dwayne on there, they're in good shape.
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>>83360642
Studios have an annual projected marketing budget though.
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>>83360666
>Triple the budget
>Trips
>Satan
Satan knows his numbers, but please leave this thread
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>>83359445
But i really wanted to watch Black Bolt on the big screen, more than more x-men.
And i'm not even a fan of the inhumans, never read a comic from them but the concept of black bolt's power is just amazing.
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>>83360603
>pushing X-Men to the side
Yeah, that's why they gave X-Men a bunch of comics like Uncanny X-Men, All-New X-Men, Extraordinary X-Men, All-New Wolverine, X-Men '92, Deadpool, Deadpool vs Gambit, Deadpool/Spider-Man, and Deadpool the Mercs for Money.


Marvel REEEEEAAAALLLY hated Mutants!
*slaps face*
Idiot.
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>>83360014
You could say that the staff unlocked Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch's mutant powers instead of giving it them, revealing that the family that raised them were adopted and that Magneto was their true daddy.
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>>83360691
So ultimately they are the same, just one was designed a bit better than the others
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>>83359445
That's too bad, I saw this yesterday and really enjoyed it.
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>>83360824
>A few books somehow negates the god awful direction meant to cripple the entire mutant storyline thats been going on damn near an entire decade
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>>83360694
That's a shitty way to run your business.

Movies (or are at least supposed to) get you into reading/buying the comics not the other way around.

At the end of the day it's still a Marvel property they themselves shit on out of spite. If they're going to be that way then they don't deserve the movie rights.

Just push Singer back to producing get a good director, a good script and focus on the new xmen instead of the tired First Class cast.

Dont even have Erik and Raven around.
Just Charles in a smaller role and MAYBE Beast.
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>>83360824
>*slaps face*
Faggot
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>>83360824
>*slaps face*
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>>83360940
Movies don't seem to help comic sales all that much.
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>>83360918
>WAAAAAAHHH NOTHING BAD IS EVER ALLOWED TO HAPPEN TO MUH FAVORITE CHARACTERS EVER EVER!!!
>MARVEL HATES MUTANTS JUST LIKE THEY HATED PETER PARKER WHEN THEY MADE SUPERIOR WAAAAHHHH!
>WAAAAAAAHHHH TOTALLY WASN'T A STORYTELLING CHOICE NOPE!!!

Daaawwww, does the babyman need his diaper changed???
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>>83360350
the budget was 224 million anon, they barely made any money
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>>83360014
>Hell, you can't do Magento is Wanda's father now.

Sure you can. It's already been retconned twice.
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>>83360918
>a few books

they're still publishing over a dozen mutant-only titles each month

that's about a fifth of their output
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>>83360824
>*slaps face*

>:3

Try that again punk and I'll rip your limbs off
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>>83360280
What do you mean "at least?"

First of all your wrong, if tanked. And second, you wanted that garbage to do good?
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>>83360940
Nah man, fuck it.

This is an awkward situation for everyone. Disney and Fox are competitors at many things. Sports channels (ESPN vs Fox Sports), major network channels (ABC and Fox) and of course in movies. Marvel wasn't fond of their relationship with Fox even before Disney bought them. Now between the Disney stealing Star Wars and the general fuck you to Disney that was the Fan4stic, you can bet neither side plans to help the other with anything ever. It's bad enough the gotta share A New Hope in perpetuity.
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>>83359445
More like, "I'm ready for the Deadpool Cinematic Universe."
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>>83360824
>*slaps face*
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>>83361066
because they sell, and they have nothing to replace them with.

They have de-emphasized the hell out of them, and stuck in a dead end "Extinction storyline" for the last decade. And I don't even need to go into AvX.
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>>83361066
But anon, in the 90s they used put out 25 X-books at a time, why can't it be like that all the time forever.
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>>83359445
>Are you ready for Marvel to drop Inhumans
They basically already have

>save the mutants from Fox?
X-Men may have bombed, but Deadpool was the second highest film of 2016 in ticket sales behind Civil War. And if Fantastic Flop wasn't enough for Fox to let go, I doubt X-Men: Apocalypse will be the one that pushes them to do it


Stop being an idiot
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>>83361037
>"Mutants are going extinct"
>Spend 3-4 years of X-books trying to build towards ending this
>Use the Avengers to hijack said plot, turn the X-Men into villains and 'solve' the problem
>Stick them back into even worse "extinction storyline"
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>>83360676
yeah I believe we may see the end of the Fox Xmen soon. I would have never expected Spiderman in the MCU. But it happened, anything is possible.
>tfw you just want the FF in the MCU.
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>>83361239
Spider-man is being shared and Marvel/Sony have history of being able to work together.

I don't know why that one instance has people believing every Fox movie they don't like automatically reverts the rights.
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>>83361160
Nigga pls. At no point in time did every X-book sell well enough to have them all be irreplaceable. The core 2-3 X-books sure, sniktub's solo, of course. Everything else though, nope. The X-solos tend to do bad, and despite being the best X-book at the time all new X-factor did the worst.
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>>83361265
>I don't know why that one instance has people believing every Fox movie they don't like automatically reverts the rights.


They don't understand at all what happened

They just assume "Amazing Spider-Man 2 didn't do so well and then Spider-Man went directly to the MCU" when in reality it was more complicated than that
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>>83360824
>*slaps face*
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>>83361277
but even satellite/low tier X-books sell better than other low tier titles.

Its easier sells and they don't have anything else to replace. On average, the X-Men team brand still sells more than the Avengers as far as comics go.
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>>83361202
>t-t-t-they are repeating the same story and concepts!
Welcome to superhero comic books. Enjoy your stay.
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>>83359445
>Marvel
?
Marvel has been dead for years. You mean Disney, who bought the rights?
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>>83361265
well the person in charge of Spiderman, Amy pascal(?) basically said that no matter what happens as long as she was with the company she was never going to let marvel have spiderman back. And, I think as much as /co/ is filled with shitposters and naysayers we are all of the opinion that working together the two studios could accomplish far more than separate. They just have to get over the greed syndrome of the real world, i.e. if i can't have it all ill burn it to the ground.
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>>83359445

>Wanting Disney to have control of Deadpool
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>>83361317
It was very (lucky) complicated, but that doesn't mean it can't happen again. It would probably take more to get fox to let go of X-men and FF, but I can dream.
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hey /co/, why isn't everything owned by our disney overlords.
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>>83361355
dubs confirmed for truth
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>>83360824
>*slaps face*
I hope you weren't serious. I can't tell when it's this time of the year.
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>>83361467
I chuckled
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>>83359445
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>>83359892
>Disney buys back the Mutant License
>makes good X-Men movies
They should start by making good Iron Man, good Thor and good Avengers movies first.
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>>83360824
>*slaps face*
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>>83361729
they already made good iron man and avengers movies
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I don't want Disney to buy the X-Men. I just wish Fox would do better.
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>>83361729
>They should start by making good Iron Man, good Thor and good Avengers movies first.
They already did.
Captain America the First Avenger
Captain America The Winter Soldier
Thor
Thor the Dark World
Iron Man
Iron Man 3
The Avengers
Captain America Civil War
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>>83360186
Any FoX-Men chrisposts around? All of the good ones are BvS or that tornado scene one.
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>>83359445
No more based Mikey F :(
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>>83361958
Someone should edit the scene from First Class where Magneto stops the cuban missiles
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>>83361317
It was the perfect Sony shitstorm really.
>Sony Pictures teetering bankruptcy
>Leaked emails unveil the childish and delusional nature of corporate heads
>ASM2 failed to make a profit
>Public pressure
>Sony Japan demanded Pascal to play ball with Marvel Studios
Also I dont get how people can say Sony has any baring on the new Spider Man solo, because they literally are getting a paycheck and thats it. Hell they dont even have creative say anymore. FOX isnt in the same position either
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>>83360392
>future bomb Warcraft

I wish this would be true, but you know theaters are going to be packed with fedora tipping blizzard fanboys. First of a long chain of warcraft, then diablo and then starcraft movies. Can probably throw in some overwatch animated movies if not a series somewhere in the middle. This will also have every other major movie studio buying up the rights for even more video games movie. Borderlands, Call of Duty, Battlefield, Dark Souls, it's all coming and there is nothing you can do to stop it.
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>>83362182
Would also add:

>good working relationship between sony and marvel
>based russos signed a production deal with sony and knew the studio and its execs
>sony execs liked the winter soldier

Before Garfield got sacked for not making an appearance to announce his involvement in ASM3 (with the CEO of Sony present), Pascal was adamant that Marvel cast him. So him being sacked probably tipped the execs over the edge where they faced the prospect of rebooting either way. Another solo reboot would've killed the franchise, so a Marvel deal was their last option.
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>>83362329
Do fanboys care about reviews? Its getting torn apart critically.
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>>83361898

>Any of the Thor movies
>Iron Man 3

Anon please. The rest of the list is fine but you can't be this blind. Iron Man 2 was better than Iron Man 3 and Iron Man 2 was terrible.
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>>83359445
Not happening. Fox is never going to give up their cash cow.
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>>83360676
It's not that I think there will be no Lawrence or Fassbender

It's that I don't want them anymore and focusing on them and not even having apocalypse kill at least one of them during the final battle was a missed oppurtunity
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>>83360676
Lawrence's contract is over and she did not want to be in X-Men Apocalypse (as evidenced by her bored performance that everyone including critics noticed). She doesn't even like putting blue make-up on.

I could her coming back if Fox gave her a higher paycheck (considering they keep paying Hugh to come back for cameos, it wouldn't be a shock).
Although the Rotten Tomatoes score and critic's reviews certainly aren't helping.

Fassbender seems to like the Magneto character and being over-the-top.
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>>83359445

Fox hasn't even given up Fantastic Four yet and that was such an enormous bomb Murdoch himself blamed it for the company losing money that quarter. I wouldn't put any money on them ever giving up X-Men.
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>>83360824
>*slap face*
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>>83360299

Marvel Studios takes it's comic book property seriously. They don't make whimsy of it and this shows in their dedication to costuming and embracing it with tact. Kinberg and Singer are not better storytellers than the collective writers who have shaped the XMEN over the decades. You're supposed to draw on what has worked and magnify the elements that lend itself to cinema. Marvel does that, FOX doesn't.
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>>83363199
They don't even have to waste money on that or her though

If they wanted to add Mystique in as a cameo they can simply do the yellow eyes gag on literally anybody.
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>>83362609
It's a cash cow with a shredded udder. If they hope to revive the property in their market with their own hands, they'd need to make grilled ribs (Wolverine 3), Steak (Deadpool 2), and maybe some broth from the leftover parts to make gravy (whatever else they can do with the Fantastic 4 reboot) with the remains of the proverbial cow.
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>>83361355
Fuck you buddy, they are literally killing mutants in favour of inhumans.
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>>83363477
She is literally the easiest person to recast. Marvel recast War Machine just fine, I think blue shape shifter lady can be changed.

>>83363503
Honestly, the biggest difference between Fox and Sony is that Fox has a couple spinoffs that have had success (DP and The Wolverine) while Sony was still trying to get their spinoffs out the door.
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>>83363477
Yeah, being a shapeshifter mean they can easily replace
>Prof X:Mystique, why do you look different?
>Mystique: I'm trying out a new look. Something a little taller.
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>>83361202
Fuck Marvel for not backing New X-Men when Grant gave them a golden goose that shat sustainable storytelling and IP creation.

There should have been a dozen books like X-Statix alongside New X-Men, and following, taking the concept to new places. Instead, we get immediate back to basics Astonishing, followed by House of M sticking us straight in the shitter for a decade
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Fox isn't Sony. Fox literally had a movie leak in it's entirety before it's release and did not give a flying fuck about it and if that doesn't tell you the lack of fucks they have at this point then I don't know what to tell you.
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>>83362182

Sony does get to feature products in the movie. They get use THEIR partners vs say Disney's partners. Unfortunately, for box set collectors, it may interfere in the blu-ray being packaged in.
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>>83363503

I think you're really confused at to how 270m, on a 180m budget is pretty good. It still has more time to make more money. They're looking for 500m, they'll very likely get it. Planet of the apes does similar numbers, this is what fox, and most studios, are comfortable with.
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>>83359445

If you factor in Marketing and Production cost Deadpool made more money for Fox than Civil War did for Disney. The Mutants aren't going anywhere.
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>>83365535
If this trend continues, they may end up making a deal like Sony's.
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>>83366112
>if the trend of lower budgeted movies + good marketing campaign continues with the biggest grossers of all time continues
>they may end up making a deal like Sony's???????
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>>83366612
X-Men Apocalypse is projected to make less than 500 million with a higher budget than DOFP.
Without Jackman, JLaw and the others, they can just go downhill.
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>>83365535
Not if the X-men movies themselves continue the trend.
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>>83366640
But Apocalypse had Jackman and JLaw
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>>83366688
Because the marketing was atrocious.
Also, Wolverine was only in a 5 minute scene.
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>>83360699
They still need Marvel's permission to go ahead with the show.

No amount of name calling will make you smarter than >>83360331
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>X-Men literally just got rebooted through DoFP
>Wanting it to be rebooted yet again just so mutants can shit up the MCU and make that "we have an enhanced on the field" line in Age of Ultron more retarded than it already was
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>>83366706
No because the movie relied on Wolverine, JLaw and the others.

This is why people say it's more of the same because it focuses on the same people with one or two exceptions
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>>83366640
If this is the same anon, you should have clarified Apocalypse, because the post was
"DEADPOOL MADE MORE MONEY FOR FOX THAN CIVIL WAR DID FOR DISNEY"

so...literally the easiest fix would be to slap 'X-Men' onto some Deadpool movie because that's how the rights are retained? and voila "THE MUTANTS AREN'T GOING ANYWHERE"
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>>83359503
the op is talking about the movies kid. take your fan fiction to other place and stop being stupid. your enthusiasm about small things is pathetic
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>>83367184

I mean they're doing X-Force at some point so
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>>83367224
the mutants aren't going anywhere
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>>83361064
>>83360837

Chthon >>>> Magneto

Wanda being an ordinary girl who has greatness thrust upon her is a great arc. Magneto completely undermines that IMHO.
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>>83360689
8/10
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>>83367341

I want to thrust myself upon Elizabeth Olsen
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>>83367741
Lewd.
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>>83367777

She's objectively the sexiest Olsen girl, I can't help that
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>>83367797
Not like she has much competition.
Plus the other known Olsen is a black dude.
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>>83360597
>Deadpool in PG13
It would remove unnecessary over"fucks" and make a joke about that, but then I remember how much the Apocalypse Wolverine scene had way too little blood despite already showing decapitations from earlier scenes by the bad guy, I wouldn't be too hype.
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>>83367891
WOW. Her sister looks like she's in her late 50's
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>>83368134
Both twins look like 50 year olds.
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>>83360681
Did the math on it.

These are just domestic grosses versus reported production budget. All but one of the films on the cap made more than twice their production budget just with domestic gross.

I find the guy bland and somewhat boring, but he does make money.

That single loss was a Stallone/DeNiro movie.
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>>83367220
I want you to go to /tv/ and stay there
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Kevin Feige calls you in and tells you to select 3 X-Men that will get introduced into MCU similar to Scarlet Witch. Who do you choose? Why?

I'll start you off.

1. Wolverine
2.
3.
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>>83368890
1. Beast

That is all.
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>>83368890
Do I have to have Wolverine?
If so then Wolverine, Nightcrawler, and Cyclops.

Nightcrawler because I like him.

And Cyclops because for gods sake he needs a good movie and to not be shit on (and I think some people at Marvel Studios like him).
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>>83368890
Wolverine
Morph
Polaris
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>>83368890
X-Men only, or anyone from the X-Franchise?
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>>83359445
oh hi bait
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>>83369109
Anyone from the X-Universe/Franchise/X-whatever is fine.
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>>83369313
Beast / The Brood / Illyana

Beast - because he actually was an Avenger for a while and he could fill the scientist role on the Avengers team that Banner has left vacant

The Brood: they would be a much cooler thing to see than the Chituri and could tie into a the Captain Marvel and Guardians of the Galaxy films.

Illyana (Magik): This is just because I'm a Magikfag, and I would like to see her at some kind of hellish summit with Mephestio, Hela and other Infernal Lords.
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>>83365535

If you factor in merchandise, Deadpol and civil war made marvel more money.

Im not saying fox is giving up x-men/mutants. Disney is a monster, they sell shit out the ass. Fox, paramount, universal, they don't know how to do that like disney does. No one bought avatar toys, or stark trek toys or anything just cause it was "fast and furious". The movies are obviously still profitable, but Disney is doing far more than just the movies.
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>>83360186

Is the head of fox studios a woman? Feige managed to get spider-man back to marvel by using his dick
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>>83359445
they just announced a tv show that probably won't happen anytime soon.
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>>83366640

It has a lower budget than DOFP, they've already made their money back, they're making a profit at this point. They greenlit a 3rd Night at the museum based on the 2nd making 400m on a budget of 150m, stop fooling yourself and thinking this isnt a success for them.
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>>83369513
Interesting choices, anon. I'd be all for Illyana making it in.

Keep Mephisto away from Spidey though.
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>>83368890

Juggernaut
Lilandra
Warlock
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>>83369920
I'm picturing the Infernal Lords as characters to appear in Dr Strange films.
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>>83369774
TV show productions get cancelled all the time.

Wonder Woman had a tv pilot. Was never aired (though leaked) and the show canned.
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>>83360824
>*slaps face*
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>It's not even Marvelcucks vs DCucks
>It's literally Disneyshills vs every other company
>on /co/
>not /tv/

GTFO with your /tv/ shit, seriously.
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>>83359445
this thread again?
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>>83372034
>>83372375
Maybe if Fox stopped raping the X-Men and give the rights back we wouldn't have this thread HMMMMM?
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>>83372410
You will never get Wolverine in the Avengers.
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>>83359445
After Deadpool? Nah.
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>>83359445
made double what Alice did
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>>83372410
>Give back
maybe Disney cared they would PAY for the film rights back, instead of giving the NBA 2.6 billion dollars a year for the next 10 years to show games on ESPN.
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>>83359445
Probably have to wait for Wolverine 3 and Gambit to bomb first.
Of course they have Deadpool at the moment, but they'll probably fuck that up too.
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>>83368890
Do they have to be actual Xmen or can they be characters from Xmen?

1. Wolverine (lets be honest, X-23 since its going to be a while before we can find someone good enough to replace Hugh Jackman)
2. 90s Rogue
3. Jubilee (maybe Marvel will use her where Fox continuously fails to).

If anybody from Xmen:
1. The Brood (would love to see them on the big screen)
2. Sauron. (Black Panther, Scarlet Witch, Cap and Ant Man in the Savage Land...)
3. 90s Rogue

Runners up:
Majik, Tempus, and Gambit
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>>83372764
The day we get a live action Beta Ray Bill is the day I'll believe Marvel could do something with Sauron and The Savage Land.
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>>83360824
>*slaps face*
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>>83372702
The price Fox would demand would be outrageous.

Sony for example wanted 5 billion dollars for Spider-man alone, and they would still receive some rights to the franchise.
All of Star Wars costs 4 billion, what the fuck was Sony thinking.
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>>83372838
I just want an old and crusty Sauron played by Jeff Goldblum, with a few CG de-aging scenes of flashback.

Then Ptera-Blum Sauron with all the campy Fly references in Jura-Savage Lands with Dinosaurs fighting Captain America and Scarlet Witch.
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>>83372879
Sony management is clearly incompetent. They thought that a crossover between Toby Spiderman and Andrew Spiderman would make 20 billion dollars.
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>>83360718
>Evan Peters' Quicksilver and Liz Olsen's Scarlet Witch in the same movie.

fuck yeah, that would be real cash.
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I really hope both the mutant and Transformers rights revert to Marvel.
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>>83359445
>Are you ready for Marvel to drop Inhumans and save the mutants from Fox?

Keep Dreaming.
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X-Men need bigger penises.
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>>83359944
>>The movies as a sense of natural progress show the eventual acceptance of the mutants by humanity by and large.
>Marvel has unintentionally set themselves up for it to be a metacommentary of eventually accepting Mutants into the MCU
what a world we live in
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>>83360550
>>83360681
Keep posting more Sophie
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>>83373031
Then stop going for 15 year old twinks, Singer.
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>>83361553
Everyday is time of the year.
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>>83362526
Thor 1 wasn't bad.
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>>83366828
Marketing for X-Men movies is abysmal.
I learned about all the websites that were DoFP related only couple of weeks ago from /co/.
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>>83368890
1. Cyclops
2. Havok
3. Vulcan
Make them Inhumans.
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>>83362405

Nobody cares about reviews if its a big IP (see Transformers and BvS), Warcraft will do fine.
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>>83362329
It's projecting to make less than 20 million on it's opening on USA.
There's only so much money neckbeards can bring.

Fortunately, most videogame movies are massive flops and get critically destroyed.
Keep the bombs coming, the ones who unironically make videogame movies deserve to lose it all, and the actor and directors who work on these deserve to have their careers die.
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>>83360014
There's myriads of ways to do it. The X-Men appeared in an already established universe in comics too.

>most of the famous plots have been done.
I guess, but there's still some left, and the MCU has been adapting things pretty loosely in terms of stories anyway.

>Hell, you can't do Magento is Wanda's father now.
Who the fuck ever cared about that shit.
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>>83360350
I wouldn't call it a bomb and it's still soon to judge, but anon, those numbers are due to the film being out for almost 3 weeks already.
Sure, it opened (poorly) only last week in burgerland, but that was after almost two weeks of overseas, so it already had $100million-something by then. And there's no other big opening left other than China. And you have to consider that the studio gets most of the money by A) the domestic market and B) during the first few weeks, although i'm not familiar with the mechanics more than this
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>>83362329
Nah it's going to fail miserably.
I actually wouldn't mind Starcraft. The rest is just pretty bland in terms of visuals, which is the only thing you want in those.
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>>83363632
>Marvel recast War Machine just fine,

Still salty about bruce banner though.
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>>83368890
Beast, Kitty, Bobby

if they've fallen out with Sony at the time, then instead of Bobby, Warlock
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>>83372967
Transformers are still held by Hasbro, they're under a licensing deal to Dreamworks/Paramount.

The comic book rights are never coming back to Marvel.

>>83372712
Are they actually filming Gambit? Did they actually film Gambit and it's in post? I heard nothing but it's due in like three months.

Wouldn't be the first time FOX pulled that.
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>>83374028
Gambit is in limbo.
Literally only Channing Tatum wants to make that movie.
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>>83360824
>*slaps face*
rAWR XD :3
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>>83359748
No keep Death of X. Make it that the dream of Charles Xavier dies it's tragic death. So the dream of Scott Summers can rise from the ashes and put the X-Men on the right path
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>>83360014
You could do what Evolution did. The Mutants have been in plain sight all the time, but the general government and populations have been unaware of them. Those that are aware keep quiet as they realize the chaos that would occur if a naturally superior species existed.

>>83359956
No. Wolverine has had his time. It's time for a new x-character to take center stage. Preferably not anyone from Aaron's run though.
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>>83374733
That "hiding in plain sight" thing is a stupid asspull
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>>83374681

>X-Men 8: X Gon' Give It To Ya
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>>83359445
I'd much rather have the Fantastic Four come home. The MCU as it is now can't really handle the massive addition to the mythos that are mutants, and Fox letting the X-Men go would mean Deadpool wouldn't get a sequel.
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>>83374813
Yes and no. It all depends how they play it. If the brotherhood has been doing insane shit like in the Fox Movies, then yeah it's an asspull. But if the battles have been so inconspicuous that it's never popped on anyone's radar, it works. It also works that whenever mutants have appeared, SHIELD has wiped up all evidence and Men in Black'd the place.

In fact, the hiding in plain sight could be a huge plot point. Because, instead of the supremacists acting like your stereotypical terrorists, blowing shit up and then claiming responsibility, the Brotherhood could be acting like revolutionaries. Plotting and planning a revolution. Deciding the structure of the world after the events and so on.

It actually could also work in favor of making Mags Quickslav's and Wanda's dad again. The reason that they are referred to as Mutantes or whatever is because information is being deliberately repressed about the mutants. In actuality the two are mutants, they were given away by their dad to protect them and they have just been enhanced by Hydra.
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>>83360014
I think it's unlikely they'll actually get the rights
But if we want to speculate...

>Mutants were always around but Hydra, through SHIELD, managed to keep them a secret so they could study by themselves ways to weaponize the x-gene. They could maybe even retcon Pietro and Wanda saying they were always mutants but their powers were triggered by Loki's sceptre

>Mutants were always around but the collective efforts of people like Xavier managed to keep them a secret for as long as it was necessary. Maybe Xavier uses Cerebro to costantly scan the planet and delete from people's minds any trace of knowledge on mutants

>Mutants were always around, but in small numbers, so it wasn't that hard to keep them a secret. Only now they're increasing in numbers (because of maybe external factors like pollution, radiation experiments, or even something related to the infinity stones) and thus evil ones like Magneto decide it's the best moment to get an army and start war on humanity, while Xavier instead decides it's time to step out of the shadows and reveal their existence to the world to try prevent Magneto from ruining mutants' image in the eyes of normal people forever
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So this more or less confirms a Deadpool centric direction for the Foxverse, right?
Awesome.
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>>83375107
>They could maybe even retcon Pietro and Wanda saying they were always mutants but their powers were triggered by Loki's sceptre
I think what they implied is that the scepter ''unlocked'' their powers.
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>>83372879
>Sony for example wanted 5 billion dollars for Spider-man alone, and they would still receive some rights to the franchise.
>All of Star Wars costs 4 billion, what the fuck was Sony thinking.

& Disney can afford it & literally get their money back if they promise some X-Men featuring RDJ. This board literally jacks off to Box office results & still convince themselves that Disney can't afford a comic book character?

Get fucked.
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>>83375247
Yes, but Disney just doesn't want to pay that much.
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>>83375302
Disney paid 4 billion for Star Wars, and every installment including the standalone titles will rake in decent cash along with other business ventures. Guess Disney needs to start working on Frozen 2, Zootopia 2, & Big Hero 6 sequels to get that X-men IP.
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>>83375371
Yes, but Star Wars is Star Wars.
Mutants would only be yet another addition to a franchise that right now, it's the biggest they currently have.
They don't need it right now, and they'd rather wait for it to be at an historic low value if they even consider buying it.
They make 40 billion a year from toys alone, the only ones in a hurry for X-Men being in the MCU are MCU fans.
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>>83375160
It should. For the love of god let them learn the right lesson from this debacle.

Comics, costumes > serious bullshit
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>>83368890
Deadpool.

For Thanos and their relationship to Death.
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>>83360014
reverse Day of M with wanda wishing more superhumans to defend earth
Or just have them as a weird side effect on some humans when the infinity gauntlet arrives on earth
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>>83359445
Never going to happen, Mouseketeer.
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>>83360350
Because they think there has been good MCU movies (there hasn't.)

Mousefuckers are barely human anymore. All huger brain functions are replaced with shit.
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>>83360694
Because comic books are their fucking business. If Marvel can't take pride in its own art out of Kikery, why should anybody give a fuck about them?
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>tfw I liked the action scenes in Apocalypse more than the action scenes in Civil War and cared equally about the story in each (not at all)

Honestly I thought the movie was fine.

Obviously it was schlocky as shit, but who cares about that?
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Death is best girl, OG Horsemen movie when
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Ignoring the supposed company wars and such. From a pure greed standpoint Fox has to recognize how much money a combined universe with the MCU would make, wouldn't they try to do a Spider-Man type deal?
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>>83360627
The celestials didn't make mutants comparable to the kree making Inhumans, they just introduced the X-gene to the human population and let evolution take its course. Wheareas the Kree physically manipulated humans genetics into a new creature.
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>>83363799

they're in dream land annie, let them dream
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>>83372879
those numbers are shit compared to what Disney spends on ESPN.
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>>83360350
As close as I could find, the true budget for the movie including marketing is about $234 mil, and with a gross income of $265 mil, they've made around $31 mil profit, which is fucking pennies compared to Deadpool or any of the marvel movies. Suck my ass X-faggot.
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>>83360431

Uwe Boll would do it.
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>Singer thinks Mystique should get a solo spin-off
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>>83379269

It hasn't been released in china, and its only been a week here so even with a 60 percent drop, its still going to get close to 500+ million. Overseas aren't even close to done either.
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>>83379407
M8 the movie is Garbo, I wouldn't be surprised with over an 80% drop, I wanted to kill myself by the end of it.
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>>83379457

The point is even underperforming it will still keep going up and because of DP's success, overall it will still look like Fox is doing great.

So its better for the universe if it does under-perform because it will push Singer out, and then the guys made DP can influence the rest of the movies coming out.

I mean dp made 700 mil profit from just theater release and if you include digital/bluray and all that, its done monster business. It sold a million copies in 4 days with that early digital release stuff. It took The Martian three weeks to do what Deadpool did in four days so.

Deadpool was so successful that it will yank mediocre(Apocalypse) and bomb(F4) up with it.
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>>83378888
>egypt, circa 3000 BC

>>83378916
yes and no

FOX would be amenable to that on good terms, however, they likely have an unrealistic idea of what good terms would constitute

in the meantime they're not losing money (well, yet) by continuing to exploit the rights

>>83379269
uhhh no, they'd only receive about 50% of the gross anyway - the rest is gobbled up by the distribution chain

yes, it really does cost that much to run all those theaters, no, there isn't really much the studios can do about it

>>83379396
if he does he's just trying to flatter the closest thing the series has to a big name, either because she might be amenable to signing on again (which seems unlikely) or because he's looking for a way off the sinking ship

>>83379407
none of the others released in China, and there's no reason to expect this to do well there as a consequence

china is not a moneybox, lots of movies fail there

a 60% drop from this weekend would be about $23m next weekend, which is probably optimistic if it follows the same trend as DoFP; Thursday previews and Monday's bumper gross from the holiday don't count toward the total we'd calculate the drop from

it's unlikely, on present evidence, to make more than $200m domestic, and the overseas is now two weeks old - might make it to $300m, so you're right, close on $500m

unfortunately this movie cost $234m to make and probably $80m to market, meaning at a bare minimum it's costing FOX $314m, meaning to break even they'd need over $600m
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>>83379577
Burton's first Batman movie made what would today be close on $800m on a budget equivalent to Deadpool's

sequel made half as much and cost twice as much, so they shitcanned him; it never really recovered gross-wise until 2008
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>>83379786

your inflation numbers are off, considering DP surpassed the first batman movie with inflation considered but I get your point about the gross.
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>>83379577
lets not make every movie Deadpool. It was a good movie but the X-men shouldn't be copying it
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>>83379809
it depends on how you work it out; with straight CPI inflation the worldwide is equivalent to $793,707,700.85 today, with ticket price it's $869,090,580 according to NATO's 2015 average - Deadpool is currently sitting on $763m, and will not pass either mark

since the bulk of that money was made on the domestic side, Batman is about 30% ahead of where Deadpool's domestic lies; i don't know where you got the idea that DP made so much
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>>83359445
Not really. I don't like the idea of Mutants and the other Heros sharing the same universe mainly because it sounds retarded to have Mutants be discriminated when beings more powerful and weird like Spiderman, Wanda, Hulk exist in the same place. I mean wouldn't they too be consider Mutants because they aren't 100% human? It would be stupid to see Wolverine and say " Hey fuck you mutant" and then have Spiderman be praised all over the world. I MEAN WOULDN'T THEY BE THE SAME SHIT???
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>>83363456
Heh.
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>>83375160
does Sony still get to call the shots on Spidey?
Can we get a literal Deadpool/Spider-Man movie?
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>>83383164
No they dont
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Frankly it is just far too late to inject Mutants into the MCU as the kind of widespread thing it is the the X-men movies or the comics.

There is just no plausible way to bring it up that doesn't involve everyone in the audience throwing popcorn at the screen and shouting "HOW HAS THIS NEVER BEEN MENTIONED BEFORE!?"
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