Who's the villian again?
Hillary Clinton.
>>83340399
>>83340406
>Misspelling jobs to make it seem like an illegitimate problem
/co/mblr is alive and well I see
>>83340406
Blowing up trains is just the 'strawman' so the reader knows who the villain is.
Otherwise Redskull's arguments are just too persuasive!
>>83340399
Republicans.
>He's not a villain because he gives a good speech
Please don't tell me you're THAT easily manipulated, OP.
>>83340571
I can't decide whether your an idiot or just underage.
>>83340399
Faggets who keeps posting the same page 1 week later
>>83340399
The American way
>>83340399
You OP, it was you all along.
>>83340399
>Believing what a dictator had to say
Hitler and Stalin also said a bunch of stuff just so they could get followers.
The real problem here is that we will never see Red Skull using the same recruiting tactic on lefties.
>>83340399
Intersectional feminism
Ah, this thread.
I'm certain we'll have a ton of polite conversation and productive arguments about this.
>>83340784
That's really not the point, now is it? Nobody's seriously arguing that Red Skull isn't a bad guy - of course he's a bad guy. He's an actual, literal Nazi. The problem is that the writer is using him to strawman people with whom he disagrees with, politically, by having an actual, literal Nazi regurgitate a caricature of conservative rhetoric in the hopes of delegitimizing it. After all, you don't have to have a discussion when your adversaries are actual, literal Nazis.
>>83340399
Can you not read between the comic's lines? It's pretty obviously white people.
>>83340863
Well that's what happens when you have a political climate where people support a guy whose rhetoric is startlingly similar to actual, literal Nazis.
You kind of made your own bed there.
>>83340906
>Trump is the conservative's fault
>Not of the completely retarded side of the left
>>83340863
You mean just like actual Nazis try to bandwaggon on these movements in the real world? This sort of stuff has been happening this entire time in germany.
>>83340906
How is it similar, anon?
>>83340923
Maybe if Merkel did something about all the rapefugees instead of telling the parents and husbands of all the molested/raped girls that they are racists...
>>83340906
Please don't confuse me for a Trump supporter - but "Republicans are Nazis" is hardly a new allegation unique to our current nominee. When it looked like Cruz was on track to be the nominee, people were calling him a Nazi. People called Dubya a Nazi. It's Nazis all the way down with you people. The left thrives on characterizing it's political opponents as Nazis and has for decades - but the moment someone on the right points out their totalitarian behavior, some asshole calls Godwin's Law and claims to have won the debate because the first person to mention Nazis loses.
Funny how it never seems to apply to them.
>>83340955
Find me the quote were the leader of a major democratic nation was thick enough to say anything even remotely that stupid. I'll wait.
>>83340986
Blah blah Godwin's law sure but Trump's angle is entirely "This country! This COUNTRY. THIS country. Outsider BAD. BE SCARED. THIS COUNTRY."
And I'm sure you're not defending Dubya. This current situation is almost entirely the fault of his administration. "We have to fight a war! THIS COUNTRY" and then we ruin Iraq for completely non-existent reasons that have to be justified after the fact. An entire country is in ruins and people act confused when the entire region resorts to
>>83341478
>Outsider BAD
I like that it's gotten to the point where you can't be anti-criminal(illegal immigrants that are here illegally)without being LITERALLY HITLER. Thanks for that leftists, we have almost reached the point where nazi will lose any meaning due to your continual lowering of the bar that someone has to leap over to be called one.
>>83341563
Slippery Slope, my friend.
>>83340399
>it's a /pol/ plays politics in a cartoon board episode
What did he mean by this?
>>83341563
>I like that it's gotten to the point where you can't be anti-criminal(illegal immigrants that are here illegally)without being LITERALLY HITLER.
He constantly mentions Latinos regardless of whether they're criminals or not.
"Oh there's this judge who is after me because of my shitty sham college. Did you know he's MEXICAN?"
Don't pretend this isn't a trend in his rhetoric. He knows exactly what he's doing, and the fact that you seem to miss it is worrying.
>>83341658
>Constantly
>>83341635
Plenty of other threads you could go into
>>83341658
Oh I'm not voting for him, I just felt like pointing out the stupidity that is trying to have any kind of discussion about immigration without getting called Hitler if you don't support the let them all in, even the criminals, especially the criminals, side of the argument. Because there are apparently only two sides, the one I mentioned and GAS THE SPICS, RACE WAR NOW!
>>83341658
bullshit claims
As expected from the left, go suck bernies dick more you cuck
>>83340755
>what is collateral damage
>implying you can just throw a country into civil war without fucking everything up
>>83340863
What are you, an SJW? It's a comic for Christ's sake.
>unrionically using delegitimatizing
>>83341478
>Blah blah Godwin's law sure
You know, it's cool if you don't want to discuss the reprehensible trend in civic discourse where Democrats, leftists and the social justice echo chamber characterizes anyone who disagrees with them as literally Nazis, but it'd be nice if you would just come out and say so rather than continually try to delegitimize my position with accusations that I'm literally a Nazi because I associate with literal Nazis. It's incredibly frustrating.
Of course, I suppose it's your goal to frustrate. Again, you don't have to have a discussion if you shut down discussion and that lets you pretend like you've "won" the argument. Tell me, again, how you've totally DESTROYED me by refusing to talk out our disagreement like adults. That's sure to make you popular with anonymous assholes on the internet.
>>83341892
>If I throw a buzzword at him (incorrectly used, but hey who cares) his argument means nothing!
People usually have more then two brain cells anon. I'm sorry if you can't see how obviously the writer of this issue is throwing shit at conservatives.
>>83341899
>You know, it's cool if you don't want to discuss the reprehensible trend in civic discourse where Democrats, leftists and the social justice echo chamber characterizes anyone who disagrees with them as literally Nazis, but it'd be nice if you would just come out and say so rather than continually try to delegitimize my position with accusations that I'm literally a Nazi because I associate with literal Nazis. It's incredibly frustrating.
I didn't say you're a Nazi. I said Trump's rhetoric resembles that used by Nazi. Don't hide behind "Godwin's Law" so you could ignore what I say and go, "You said Nazi! I win!"
>Of course, I suppose it's your goal to frustrate. Again, you don't have to have a discussion if you shut down discussion and that lets you pretend like you've "won" the argument. Tell me, again, how you've totally DESTROYED me by refusing to talk out our disagreement like adults. That's sure to make you popular with anonymous assholes on the internet.
Right, if I'm not doing Godwin's Law, I'm just trolling. Here's a gold medal for your mental gymnastics.
>>83341892
Come on now, there is some artful trolling going on here, respect the zone of performance and take your bush league stuff some place else.
>>83341850
Yeah, it's bullshit because Trump said so, right? Who cares if it's an actual concern raised by a real judge. The judge isn't TRUMP.
If Trump has nothing to hide, he'd just let himself be investigated instead of calling the American born American raised judge a Mexican just because of his last name.
>>83340863
That's not a strawman, that's guiilt by association or ad hominem.
>>83342003
He is letting himself be investigated.
>>83340906
>rhetoric
No they are not even vaguely similar in anyway.
Trump hasn't advocated harming anyone but ISIS.
Mexicans and Muslims don't have a legal or moral right to be in this country.
Not allowing them to enter isn't harming them in anyway.
>>83341752
The important thing is you've found a way to feel superior to both straw-sides.
>>83340815
...Stalin was a lefty. I think the fact you didn't know that is telling.
>>83341971
>I said Trump's rhetoric resembles that used by Nazi
Saying "Nazi's believed that so it's bad" means fuck all. Judge the beliefs on their own merit, not by others who believed the same. Also remember that the world today is different to the world back then. Terrorism didn't exist in the form we know it today. His position on immigration is understandable considering the shit that's happened in recent years.
>>83341899
>it's cool if you don't want to discuss the reprehensible trend in civic discourse where Democrats, leftists and the social justice echo chamber characterizes anyone who disagrees with them as literally Nazis
Not him but it's just the other side of the coin of every American Democrat getting called a communist/socialist/whiteguiltfag. Or if you want a 4chan example, everybody who has a right-wing opinion is /pol/stormfront and everybody who has a left-wing one is tumblr/SJW/cuck
Hyperbole is quite en vogue these days, it prevents people from having to make any form of intellectual or tribal compromise.
It is frustrating but let's not pretend it's one-sided in any way.
>>83342144
Megan is never coming back Randall.
>>83340399
>Who's the villian again?
Marvel.
The answer is always Marvel.
>>83341971
>I said Trump's rhetoric resembles that used by Nazi.
No its not.
He isn't advocating putting anyone in camps or exterminating anyone.
The Jews were not harming anyone and didn't pose any threat to Germany.
Trump is asking that a fountain of cartel violence, rape, kidnapping, sex trafficking, drugs, entire police stations being fucking massacred be closed off.
>>83342210
Truly the best answer.
>>83342152
I think your reading comprehension is pretty poor.
He's saying the issue is that Marvel doesn't show that lefties are just as subject to that type of discourse, not that it isn't the case irl.
>>83340986
Anybody remember all the teapartiers and who used to paint Hitler stashes and the black president who thought health care should be affordable? Conservatives through the same mud, it just doesn't stick as well.
Why? The reasons lefties don't get painted as Nazis is because the right has monopoly on homophobia, racism and scapegoating immigrants.
>>83340986
>Funny how it never seems to apply to them.
Yeah cause, no Republican demagogue has ever called a liberal a "Commie."
>>83340399
He's still a villain but he genuinely sounds like it's something dear to him. And he's actually not wrong either. He's probably telling them this to win them over for a plot but he's on the right track
>>83342256
Yeah, and the Right just calls us Communists anyway.
Everybody gets compared to some weird, unfavorably, occasionally outright unrelated historical group. History has many examples of this.
>>83342256
Lefties do get painted as Nazis, you know all those people who point out it's the National SOCIALIST party. Despite the fact that National Socialism isn't the same thing as Marxist Socialism and Nazi's were against Marxism. Though honestly Stalin was worse than Hitler, the right needs to use that more for mudslinging.
>>83342256
It's not scapegoating or racism to protect your citizens from people who believe in the same cause as the fucking monsters who did this... http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/rest-of-world/2000-killed-in-Nigeria-but-world-failed-to-react/articleshow/45844273.cms
Mass murder supporting shit stain.
Burn the fuck in hell!
>>83341478
>"This country! This COUNTRY. THIS country.
In case this was unclear to you, he is running to be President of this country.
Not the Grand Sombrero of Mexico, or Child Raper in Chief of Syria.
THIS COUNTRY.
>mfw there are actual nazis here
>mfw retarded Americans shout nazism over mild nationalism that make even the new globalist Social Democrats, much less the old school patriotic ones, seem like ultras in comparison.
The worst thing about Cape Comics is stuff like this that no one outside a small American clique can relate to in any way.
It makes Dave Sim's rants look subtle in comparison.
>>83340800
That anon is clearly underage. Nice jourb there homestar.
If you really think Red Skull cares about making America or Europe better, you're a fucking idiot.
>>83342256
There are plenty of leftist racists. Shit why do you think they want more immigration? Democrats are the party of the nanny state, more poor uneducated non-whites voting Democrat for more entitlements is just what they want.
>>83340399
So this shit is going to be an everyday thing now.
>>83341658
Immigrants net contributions to the economy. If you grant amnesty to the 11 million unlawful immigrants then they would be criminals anymore. Its a lot cheaper then building a wall
Would that make you happy?
...or is there some other reason you hate immigrants? Racist fuck.
http://clas.berkeley.edu/research/immigration-economic-benefits-immigration
>>83342350
It's possible he cares, his idea of better is just different from yours, mine, or most people's.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
>>83341478
>Saddam had a 2 Million+ body count of mostly his own citizens...
>Non existent reason...
>>83341478
Nah man it's not Dubya's fault it's Regan's fault helping extreme Islamic groups get into power and then supplying them with weapons was a shit idea.
>>83342363
Pretty much, for a couple of weeks, until the next "controversy". Say what you want about Marvel, they sure give crossborders excuses to shipost.
>>83342363
Yes
>>83342214
>The Jews were not harming anyone and didn't pose any threat to Germany.
Eh, well the leaders of the attempted communist coup on Weimar Germany in 1918 were almost all from the jewish community, it's a big part in why political anti-semitism became widespread outside of Austrian territory (where Hitler picked it up).
But really Trump's rethoric isn't at all any closer to Hitlers any more than the average Liberals is.
>>83342395
Do you genuinely believe this was a humanitarian mission?
>>83342350
Did they ever do a What If Red Skull won comic?
>there's no crime or racism or religious intolerance
>>83342372
>>83342281
please don't use the term "us" that makes it sound like you have a theist approach to party politics.
>>83342372
I don't hate them.
I just want the government to know EXACTLY who every single individual is that enters this country.
If we just let people walk thru the gate without taking their name down what is to stop Mexican pedos and serial killer that are on the run in Mexico from coming here where no one will be looking for them.
>>83342372
It literally says at the beginning of that article that it needs to be managed efficiently. It's not being managed at all right now. Immigration can be good, but only if the immigrants have something they can contribute to this country and truly desire to be Americans. The flood of poor, uneducated laborers from the south has only been a negative, as they are nothing but a financial and civil burden on the states they live in.
>>83342463
>thinking pedos or serial killers would flee mexico
its like the happy hunting grounds
>>83342463
Anon, that was a pretty blatant troll you replied to. The "racist" comment should have tipped you off if nothing else.
>>83342357
Who are >>they?
Minorities?
Democrats?
Also, fyi, its the poor uneducated who overwhelmingly prefer Trump. Put down the meth and moonshine buddy.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/trump-overwhelmingly-leads-rivals-in-support-from-less-educated-americans/
>>83342372
What a load of shit.
http://www.fairus.org/publications/the-fiscal-burden-of-illegal-immigration-on-united-states-taxpayers
>>83342443
Do you genuinely believe it was JUST ABOUT THE OIL MAN! Certainly didn't give the president a shot at re-election or a great legacy.
>>83342443
Possibly not, but a grave humanitarianneed was solved and those 2 million crying out for justice have been given peace so I don't give as rat's fucked ass if we got oil in return for our efforts.
>>83342449
There's only one race, no religions as they get in the way of loyalty to the state, and fear of getting killed by Red Skulls secret police brings crime down. So yes all those things would be true.
>>83342474
It will be a happy hunting ground here pretty much also when no one knows you are even in the country.
>>83342467
>It's not being managed at all right now.
Do some people genuinely believe that?
>>83342392
His idea of a better world is one where he has absolute power and uses it to make everyone else suffer.
>>83342372
>People knowingly break law
>reward them
Hmm, why would anyone have a problem with that? And it's not just the ebul white mans who have a problem with it, real ass immigrants, the ones that went through the process, the ones that earned their citizenship, want those fuckers gone too. If you want immigration reform, implement it, then put those people at the head of the list for the new citizenship process. But don't reward them for being criminals.Don't try to force amnesty because real change is hard and doesn't happen over night. I don't agree with a bunch of shit your side is for, but do you see me making machine guns in my garage? No, I'm fighting that bullshit by donating to people trying to fix the problem instead of slapping a band aid on then ignoring the real problem.
>>83342546
The problem is the victims equate to evidence.
In Mexico entire schools of people have disappeared at the command of a mayor. The POLICE did that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Iguala_mass_kidnapping
That's not going to fly in Murika.
>>83340399
Wouldn't it be more efficient for RS to wear a mask there?
Remove the fact that he's a talking red deformity, and he's not sawing anything particularly unreasonable
>>83342467
Did you read the study? Managed doesn't mean keeping people out, it means creating opportunities for assimilation and social mobility. It means education and work opportunity.
Actually immigrants pay more taxes based on their income than most other groups: http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-03-01/study-undocumented-immigrants-pay-billions-in-taxes
The metastudy i linked to showed immigration doesn't lower wages and increases the availability of other service industries (like home cleaning or nannying).
There is very little empirical data to suggest immigrants are more likely to commit crimes or have any negative social or economic impacts.
That's why liberals are calling you bigots. You spew and suck up this trump nonsense about immigrants being this big problem, but you do it with no real evidence.
So whats the real reason you hate them? Hmmm?
>>83342478
>We represent working class Americans!
>What? You don't even have a PhD in Gender Ethnic Sensitivity Guilt? HAHA DUMBASS!
>>83342501
There's a lot of reasons, but OHMAHGAHDTHERESIRAQISDYING isn't one of them. Nobody gave a fuck like nobody gives a fuck about most murderous regimes.
And yeah oil was one reason, considering there's established collusion between the Bush family and oil companies aswell as the Saudi reigning family.
>>83342256
>has monopoly on homophobia, racism and scapegoating immigrants.
It's like you've never actually interacted with leftists outside of the internet. I used to be very left and all of this stuff is common.
>Homophobia
Very common among regular Liberals when LGBT-activist types aren't present and there's often a general unease when they are. Doubly so in the machismo-type communist/anarchist camps (become more so where the internal politics are "socially conscious" as well, they've started shittalking all male homos nowadays).
>racism
Extremely common but often only shown in a roundabout way, for example ever notice how they all suddenly move away to a 100% their-own-ethnicity area when they have kids and want a "good school" for them?
Some of them will admit as much if they trust you or they've had a few drinks though.
>scapegoating immigrants
Happens as well, but it's mainly targeted at European ones and has a pretense of being "moral" in nature.
The most hateful stuff i've ever heard in real life was a Londoner, with no actual relation to the Balkans, frothing at the mouth over how evil the Serbs are and the extreme glee showed over their civvies being bombed.
>>83342505
Time will tell if the region is better off or not. Vengeance usually doesn't solve much.
>>83342564
Not really, what gave you that idea?
I think you're confusing him with Apocalypse or Darkseid.
>>83342492
>POL FAG SPOTTED
bro that's right wing extremist group site. Go back to your own board.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/federation-american-immigration-reform
The other study was from UC Berkeley and based on academic research. False equivalency
>>83342551
The border patrol has been directed to simply release people they catch crossing the border illegally. A second surge of children from South America happened due to thr lax security on the border. Repeat offenders are allowed back into the country. An illegal immigrant murdered a girl in California who had been deported 5 times before. Border control is in complete shambles, but not because it's underfunded, it's because the law is not being enforced. Please explain how the border is secure if you believe it so.
>Red Skull makes a speech about the immigration crisis, making no allusion to non-white Americans and instead solely focusing on ILLEGAL immigrants and refugees
>it's so sound that they have to fill the next panel with hate crimes unrelated to anything that he just said to keep people seeing him as the antagonist
Can grey morality just not exist in fiction anymore?
>>83342623
See
http://www.fairus.org/publications/the-fiscal-burden-of-illegal-immigration-on-united-states-taxpayers
Mexicans are not magical creatures who can feed a family of 12 off a minimum wage job, which the rest of the time you would call an "unlivable wage" for even a single person, without requiring MASSIVE amounts of welfare and social services.
>>83342623
>but you do it with no real evidence.
Because terrorism and the threat of Islam isn't evidence right? Piss off.
>>83340399
Captain America has always been the villain
>>83342623
>Hmmm?
Dude, come on.
>>83342581
But they're only criminals because of the law. If the law goes away so does the crime. And if the crime isn't really hurting anyone...?
Its like weed legalization. Why make something that isn't hurting anybody illegal in the first place?
More laws just create more criminals. What you want is more government, more bureaucracy and more money thrown down the drain.
>>83342720
That's not exactly the same as not being managed at all.
It's one border, if your aerial borders were treated the same you'd see a lot more than Mexicans.
But I agree that it makes little sense how illegal immigration is treated as the smallest crime possible.
>>83342719
The SPLC is literally a hate group.
>>83342232
But instead of seeing him as the villain he is, people begin acting like he's the good guy.
If redskull started trying to manipulate lefties, they would just slap him on the first sign of oppression.
>>83342775
Yes. Because terrorism and threat of Islam isn't real evidence.
You scared Mohamad? Pussy
>>83342751
It can but you shouldn't expect it from a character that's an established sociopath who's used populism before.
>>83342870
No...its not.
>>83342862
The crime is a $100,000,000,000 PER YEAR burden on our country. That is massively harmful in itself, not even including all the crime, drugs and firearms being shipped back and forth.
>>83342623
I don't really care about the rest of your guys discussion but
>The metastudy i linked to showed immigration doesn't lower wages
Well that's just ridiculous. Lowered wages for lower-skilled jobs are incredibly easy to see even with just your own eyes, the construction employees here saw a huge drop in both work opportunites and pay when Polish working visas came here and we similarly saw prices drop.
>There is very little empirical data to suggest immigrants are more likely to commit crimes
AFAIK pretty much all the data here in Europe point to massive overrepresentations for people groups that come from the MENA countries. Iraqis in Finland had something like a 20x overrepresentation in violent and sexual crimes. Similar though different numbers are found for different ethnic groups.
>or have any negative social [impacts]
Measured by what?
Because the massive negative social issues are pretty much what 70% of our politics have become about since even before the immigration crisis started.
>economic impacts.
Again I would point to our numbers where the economists are all pretty much agreed that the MENA immigration is a net loss and only how huge the loss is our question. (they were arguing around 3%-7% of our GDP and that was before the refugee crisis)
I think the Norwegians put theirs down by origin country and found that only a few nearby countries actually ended up paying more to the country than they cost it.
>>83342923
Yes... it is.
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/28/editorial-the-fbi-dumps-a-hate-group/
>>83342885
>people begin acting like he's the good guy.
Who people? MU people? You people? We, the people?
>If redskull started trying to manipulate lefties, they would just slap him on the first sign of oppression.
Are you trying to say that would be realistic or not?
I can't tell, get better at writing.
>>83342975
Read the fucking article you linked and not just the title, moron.
>>83342623
Illegal immigrants taxes do not even cover a fraction of the expenses necessary for the civil services they abuse.
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/41645
Illegal aliens are repsonsible for an enormous amount of violent crime, and this doesn't even include drug or human trafficking.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/08/08/illegal-alien-crime-accounts-for-over-30-of-murders-in-some-states/
Illegal aliens are money pits as well as criminals.
>>83340906
>>83342961
>AFAIK pretty much all the data here in Europe point to massive overrepresentations for people groups that come from the MENA countries. Iraqis in Finland had something like a 20x overrepresentation in violent and sexual crimes. Similar though different numbers are found for different ethnic groups.
More accurately the crime rates correlate with refugees more than immigrants and their regions.
Here in Switzerland the crime rates are higher for many African countries, followed by Albanians, because we didn't take lots of MENA refugees in the latest conflicts.
There's a variety of reasons for that.
>>83343005
I did.
Saying that your hate group designated an organization advocating for immigration reform based on facts and statics, "a far right wing organization" does not invalidate any of their data.
>>83343066
>More accurately the crime rates correlate with refugees more than immigrants and their regions.
Not really. Here for instance the worst aren't Syrians (whose number are also pretty bad) but the Ghanans, Pakistanis etc who aren't eligible for refugee status.
>Albanians
Also pretty bad. Particularly Kosovars, probably down to their ethnic mafia organization.
>>83343153
>Here for instance the worst aren't Syrians (whose number are also pretty bad)
Well give them some time, they just got there.
>>83343153
Also neither Pakistanis nor Ghaneans are MENA.
Where's "here", UK?
>>83341752
Oh for fuck's sake. That's absurd. No one is calling for open borders, moron.
What the sane, rational people suggest is why don't we take pains to make a distinction between people who commit actual crimes against others and people who are here LEGALLY and people who are here illegally or wish to come here legally and have special circumstances that deserve legal consideration.
But Trump and his parrots are slamming ANYONE of a certain ethnicity or religion. Regardless if they are fourth generation Americsn.
If it walks like Hitler and talks like Hitler, it's Donald Trump.
>>83340399
Marvel.
>>83343261
Fuck off libcuck
>>83341850
Such smart, incisive rhetoric! You are truly a dazzling wit if perceptive wisdom.
Trump has the supporters he deserves. Hopefully there are not enough redneck inbred imbeciles to drag the rest of the country into your incestuous cesspool.
>>83343239
Sweden. MENA's become more of a general term for Africans and Middle-Easterners in common language here. (including Pakistan even if that's technically closer to India)
Is the /co/ tumblr meme real?
>>83343332
yes
>>83343261
Illegally entering the country is a serious crime, that is extremely damaging to our country.
Your logic goes, "WELL IF WE JUST LEGALIZED CRIME, CRIME WOUKD BE AT 0%!"
Illegal immigration probably doesn't seem like a big deal to someone who doesn't work, doesn't pay taxes, and doesn't live close to the southern border, but you should probably listen to people who do one or more of those things.
>>83343346
But why
>>83343261
>No one is calling for open borders, moron.
A lot of people are doing just that actually.
>rational people suggest is why don't we [give citizenship to 11+ million people who are likely to vote Democrat]
Don't kid yourself.
There's nothing particularly rational about the Democrat stance of giving criminals free citizenship in lieu of the people who have actually been vetted by our immigration system and both paid and waited several years for their chance.
>Regardless if they are fourth generation Americsn.
That's funny, considering how they explicitly talk about illegals, who are not American citizens.
>If it walks like Hitler and talks like Hitler, it's
Probably Hitler. But I guess a self-deluded scumbag like yourself wouldn't be able to tell Hitler from an ink blot.
>>83343316
At that point wight aswell just say brown people. MENA's supposed to be a politically correct appelation for arabs, not anyone muslim or brown.
It's no surprise your Paki and blacks keep getting angry if you keep basically calling them arabs :^)
>>83343332
Unfortunately yes.
It's mostly the horrible fucking cartoon threads that attracts them.
>>83343261
Trump is calling for the borders to close immigration to countries we are currently engaged in warfare with, like we ALWAYS have, he has made no hostile move toward people of other ethnicity that are here legally, or a late generation
The enemy in question is a small percentage of the population of their people, but recently many of their strikes were made under the guise of being innocent refugees or immigrants, because not every immigrant or refugee has a criminal record to screen for
He's also stressed that the block would be temporary, on multiple occasions
>>83343358
>that fucking tattoo
>>83342357
Right. That's why education is a traditional liberal cause, while conservatives slash and burn education because they know their rhetoric doesn't stand up to an ounce of intellectual investigation. The right wing rely on poorly educated low income whites who blindly swallow the fear and paranoia they peddle in the hopes that someday their rich masters will let them drink from the gold fountain. And that day never comes.
The character Edward Dickinson was used to represent the conservatives in the Second Congressional Congress in the play/film 1776. When asked why he thinks the Anerican colonists will follow his lead rather than that of the liberal radicals Adams, Jefferson and Franklin, Dickinson answers: "Most men would rather protect the possibility of becoming rich, than face the reality of being poor." And the conservatives haven't stopped saving this fantasy in front of uneducated whites ever since, knowing that keeping them uneducated is the only way to preserve their power.
There's a reason why intellectuals are associated with the left, and intellectual wastelands Dubya and Trump, whose daddies bought them fancy Ivy League degrees they didn't earn, are on the right.
>>83343431
>At that point wight aswell just say brown people.
We don't mind south Europeans though. ;^)
>It's no surprise your Paki and blacks keep getting angry
Angry seems to be their default state of mind and most of them don't grasp Swedish well enough to understand what we're saying anyway.
Although their hatred for each other is unintentionally funny at times, like when the Left tries to push some horrid crime and become almost mute the second it turns out the poor black man and his son that almost got murdered were attacked by Arabs who didn't want filthy Abeeds shitting up "their" neighbourhood or when they bring on some model minority who inevitably gets offended by the notion that they're "equal" to an ethnicity they view as below them.
>>83343586
Should we play "spot all the hypocrisy in this post"?
>>83343586
>That's why education is a traditional liberal cause
As evidenced by their support for higher institut-
Oh wait. It's the Left who always slash those funds first. Including NASA and any kind of real research that doesn't simply back up their political opinions.
It's also the Left who are the main source of antagonism towards freedom of speech and ideas at those institutions according to pretty much every non-profit group like FIRE.
>cites a play/musical written by people from LA and Hollywood as evidence of political views
>There's a reason why intellectuals are associated with the left
Yes, their prevalence in the TV industry. Once upon a time Leftists weren't allowed into higher education and they aren't at all as well-represented among the upper echelons of Academia as you'd like to think. Hell if we'd get rid of the few cancerous bits in the humanities department it'd probably come down to a near 50% split.
It's funny how much of this indoctrinated shit you tell yourselves by the way, yet never bother actually looking up the numbers behind what your representatives are actually doing.
>>83343586
I think modern liberals have a very strange idea of what "education" should be, looking at the humanities departments across the country.
Our science students and faculty were somewhere between moderate/conservative, but the departments... what the hell. Pushing baseless ideological propaganda as "education" and needing isolated "safe spaces" to avoid listening to counterpoints.
>>83342152
>Stalin was a lefty
Hardly, he pretty much strayed instantly from communism and formed a dictatorship.
>>83340863
...Do you think an actual Nazi would be pro immigration?
>>83344341
Do you think everyone who is against illegal immigration is a Nazi?
>>83344393
Obviously not, but that's not what the comic is portraying is it? It literally goes out of its way to show the type of people who joined the red skull, and it's not like there's thousands upon thousands of people following him.
>>83344638
You mean it goes out of its way to strawman anyone who's not a far leftist by showing them as radical terrorists for not wanting open borders.
