So we obviously all have a best case scenario in mind for the upcoming epilogue, but what about a WORST case scenario? Aside from just not being done, of course.
>>83276968
whole epilogue is just davekat
>>83276968
never happening is the best case scenario
i've lost all hope for hussie enthusiastically updating homestuck to make it great again
>>83276968
john not coming out as a homosexual
>>83276968
best case scenario is the epilogue forcefully redirecting to undertale.com or whatever toby's next thing is and a wav file of hussie sobbing
davekat is the worst case scenario in anything
Why are you so assmad about davekat? Caliborn ships it, so it must be.
>>83277087
>Lord English wins
>Therefore making Davekat canon
>>83277110
>He kills everyone off
>Forces Dave and Karkat to preform vanilla couple shit for him like hold hands, cuddle and kiss for the rest of eternity
>>83276968
>Aside from just not being done, of course.
real talk the epilogue not being planned would have been better, a lot of people came back on 4/13 expecting the end and instead homestuck gets dragged out even further
the epilogue won't fix the problems with homestuck in the same way the extended cut/citadel dlc didn't fix the problems with mass effect
at least if act 7 was the final end people wouldn't be strung along
>>83277087
I like hating it because it makes the fat chicks on /r/homestuck mad
But also because it's shit on multiple levels
>>83276968
In the worst case scenario it would be nearly as vague and wishwashy as the postgame slides in A7
>>83277134
>Fanfic where Lord English dominates people through hugrape and non-con hand-holdingwhere?
>>83277313
seconding
>>83277087
I don't hate the pairing in and of itself, more the way it was handled
If the pre-retcon Terezi debacle had ended with them deciding to fuck each other and be supportive friends to Terezi instead of burdening her with romantic nonsense, I would've been alright
>best case scenario
There never were any "best case scenarios" for the epilogue.
Let me predict the true end case scenario that is guaranteed to happen:
>Jack Noir and Ms Paint Marriage
>Roxy leaves John for Calliope
>Davekat / Polyshit confirmed
>Davepeta and Jasprose still exist
>last panels are about Terezi looking sad into the sky, but then she sees a light and then the epilogue ends
>no plot holes explained
>Jake, Jade, Dirk and Jane play soccer with Dad's decapitated head
There you go. Now every future hst thread is about Davekat bitching, smug Davekat posters, butthurt Davejade posters, butthurt lorefags, that fucking guy who keeps on posting screencaps of reddit with a tipsy comment, that guy who dumps awful group shot art with the obligatory gay couples shoved in a corner, your precious tripfags were davekat fanboys all along and then a mod finally bans us for good.
>>83277087
he only ships them because he thinks red eyes are a sure sign of alpha maleness and that dave and karkat must be manly bros and battle companions instead of insecure weenies trapped on a meteor with no other options for three years
>>83277616
>because he thinks red eyes are a sure sign of alpha maleness
when the fuck did he ever say or imply this
stop pulling shit out of your ass
>>83277644
>THESE GLASSY RED PEEPERS, LOVELY THOUGH THEY ARE.
is it that much of a stretch to assume that he would think anyone who shared his traits must be a badass like him
>>83277597
>>Davepeta and Jasprose still exist
there's good reason I don't think the sprites will survive, and that's the fact there was two nannasprites combined with hussie's autistic obsession with only one of any character surviving
I wonder if he's actually started working on the epilogue
>>83276968
>what about a WORST case scenario?
TO BE CONTINUED, in the upcoming Hiveswap game!
>>83277597
the fact that im scared this may legit happen is part of the reason why im satisfied with the silent end and really dont even fucking want an epilogue. andrews consistently fucked up the emotional resonance shit. all i want is jokes and time travel and high stakes videobgane shit and puzzles. the meme last words from dirk were fine. no more shitty conversations about feelings. fuck
>>83277776
*hired somebody to work on the epilogue
>>83277776
gotta buy more tampons for iggidiggigypiggy
I miss him.
>>83277776
I'm more curious about how seriously he'll take it. There's every chance that if he put some effort into the epilogue it could be alright, given he has the time to go back and look at what needs covering still both plot and character wise. But I'm not hopeful this'll be the case, considering he seemed to forget how to write half the cast with the last large pause.
>>83278257
He missed so many 8's in the last few conversations that involved Vriska. It makes me wonder if he really did have a ghost writer or if he just forgot that Vriska replaces more things with 8 than the letter B.
He also started giving Terezi apostrophes out of nowhere.
>>83278314
We may never know, both options are depressing.
>>83276968
Worst case:
Even though we didn't see the final fight, we see a crumpled LE body under some refuse
His eyes light up and his fist tightens, indicating that he's not actually dead for some reason
>>83278314
he's just too occupied with hiveswap to pay attention to homestuck, i'm sure
>>83278377
reading this made me angry
>>83278417
what is he even doing? he's not even writing for it!
>>83278566
someb ody plzs link to lasdy thread
Homestuck Reboot when?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10341456
>>83278566
someday people will trust you enough to lead them, and then you'll know how much time is sucked up by managing a team.
and by "someday" I mean "probably never you sad misanthrope."
>>83278798
i hope you're not implying hussie knows how to manage people
>>83278798
how would hussie lead his team, walking into the office and doling out compliments
>>83278798
>>83278848
I'm still blown away by how good this edit is
>>83278812
Nope. just saying it takes a lot of time. he has some experience, with the art team and music team, but that's not the same. He's already fucked up a couple times, I hope that's enough.
You guys reckon Andrew has an office?
>>83278812
the worse you are at leading the more time is gonna be eaten up by dealing with the insane amounts of shit you havent got systems in place for. if he doesnt know how to be a manager that just explains how busy hes been even better
>>83278812
I expect he's one of those managers who knows how to do the work, so he keeps trying to do the work himself instead of delegating. Which just frustrates the people who are SUPPOSED to be doing the work.
>>83276968
>WORST case scenario
Hussie falls prey to his own insecurities and becomes passive aggressive towards the reader, using the narrative throne to attempt to justify the ending and short-comings of the story, all while completely failing to deliver a satisfying conclusion that ties major up loose ends and characters "arcs" without coming off as condescending, preachy, or ironic. Hussie then takes this mindset to the grave, never reaching his full potential as an artist and comedian. Worse still, the failure of any future works, if any, are blamed on the rest of the world simply "not getting it," and he's left with no ther option but to repeatedly drag out Homestuck's rotting corpse to secure the current month's grub money. Hussie's malevolent aura of self-inflicted mediocrity becomes so great before he finally kicks the bucket at the ripe age of 110, that Dante Basco's career is permanently stained by his involvement in Homestuck 2.0, an event nervously muttered under baited breath in only the deepest echelons of a draconian MSPA forum. "Homestucks" is bought into the dictionary by IPGD, and some inane quote by Vriska serves as Hussie's epitaph, his tomb a mausoleum dedicated to his second wife (Hussie is legally wed to Vriska during his second mid-life crisis after being confronted by Dante Basco in a Rufio costume). Rumor's of the Hussman's treasure horde lasts for about a day before the world is free from his influence, rabid acts of jubilation and vandalism spreading across the globe like wild fire, resulting in untold millions of property damage. The treasure is never found and Homestuck fans are nervously left wondering if Homestuck is ever truly over until the day they're freed by Death's loving embrace.
>that one fic where Tavros and his bro Gamzee visit Kanaya
>>83279263
Gamzee leaving sticky handprints everywhere
Tavros knocking things down ever time he turns his head.
( pic unrelated. i don't know why I saved this picture. )
what the fuck
let's talk about how doc scratch was wrong about things
>ARquius gets into Lil Seb.... maybe.... SOMEHOW
> so that he can become part of LE
> because......?????
>>83280124
because he had to be?
if you go looking for cause and effect you are going to have a bad time
>>83280149
> he had to be
Why? LE can't grow muscle by himself? Making LE into some retarded clusterfuck instead of just Caliborn was such a dumb choice.
What are some of Karkat's better pairings in your opinion?
>Doc Scratch: I am an excellent host.
he meant a host in the way that he is a good host for lord english's soul
![tumblr_n25vts4rs11rczfjso1_400[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/gcLS9Gi.gif "tumblr_n25vts4rs11rczfjso1_400[1].gif")
Reminder that this almost made it into Seer: Decend
>>83280630
karkat/kanaya
>>83280630
Depends on which Karkat you're talking about. The actual pre-retcon Karkat or that other weenie Karkat. The guy has a lot of setups that work depending on the circumstances of the character. He has good chemistry with a large number of characters and there's a lot of characters who could offer him a good, stable relationship to deal with his issues without butchering his character with magical meta powers.
>>83280719
Dios mio!
>>83280719
sure if you mean pale
>>83279263
>>83279338
>Gamzee brought some slime pies
>????
>>83280846
I don't
>>83280680
John/Rose is better than John/Roxy.
>>83281124
>>83280680
rose/john/roxy would be better than both
>>83281030
red kanaya karkat is the worst ship
>>83281329
I wouldn't say it's the worst, but they just work so much better pale, by a large margin. There's other, more interesting options for red with both of them.
>>83279134
damn
>>83279134
>The treasure is never found
it's in the skeleton's bones
>>83280719
>liveblogger returning in 30 mins
prepare for hapen
>>83281696
I woke up with my face on my laptop keyboard and this sitting open in Paint
As well as an empty jug of wine and a half-eaten TV dinner
Here, I guess
>>83280630
KARKAT/DEATH
KARKAT/SUICIDE
KARKAT/MY FUCKING 8ULGE
>>83281696
>>83281725
Shit pairing.
>>83281756
>filename not >THE 8EST THE 8EST THE 8EST
Vriska meta-narrative shenanigans.
Andrew (the character) heavily involved.
Troll/kid ectobabies.
Erisol in one panel, flipping us (the fans) off.
Kanaya/Rose wedding.
No mention of missing plot points.
>>83281749
not to condone drunkposting or anything but you were pretty entertaining
>>83281782
>>83281782
Please wake up screaming with ants marching down your urethra.
>>83281859
Gross.
>>83281861
Please wake up to your computer burning in an electrical fire.
>>83281540
>implying a fanatic juggalo wouldn't have transplanted the skeleton into his body
There is no treasure. It's represents how you don't always get what you want out of others.
>>83281940
>STO8 TRYING TO TURN ME INTO A MEME!!!!!!!!
>>83281940
>>83281756
At least freedom was creative.
>>83281940
That's one 8ig 8itch.
Vriska is the second worst at memes.
>>83281836
Oh jesus
I didn't do anything weird did I
>>83281898
a gross? isn't that 12 times 12? I don't know if I have that many KatNep pictures but I'll try.
>>83282018
the meme where we all shove vriska onto the floor is pretty good
>>83281977
No it wasn't, it was trying to be a loss rip-off.
>>83282035
That's fucking grotesque.
>>83282018
do not bully sp8der
>>83278172
we'll be fine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-NtKANtd4c
>>83282018
>>83282018
leave aradias mother alone you monster
Man I just don't get trolls
>>83282081
This pairing is ASS.
>>83282032
no not really
you're fine
>>83282036
>hey vriska i invented this new game called vriskaball its pretty rad you wanna play with us
>by which i mean me, john, jade the two horseguys and troll aquagirl
>>83282103
is it time to ride?
>>83282103
Well said John
>>83282103
It's time for the ruse cruise to come to an end
I'm really glad you stuck through this long, LB
It was fun, thanks
>>83282083
DUMB BITCH WHO WILL NEVER AMOUNT TO ANYTHING!
>>83282032
we kissed, anon
lots
>>83282103
the cruise will soon come to a stop
>>83282083
aaand now I'm remembering that hurt/comfort fic where pawfoot Vriska was adopted by John from a fighting ring run by Doc Scratch.and she's siezed from John beacuse she killed her abusive keeper before she escaped.
>>83282032
You started mouthing off about Nazi ideals and shit, I was really surprised that the mods didn't ban you for it.
has anyone told livecruiser about our lord and savior michael bowman?
>>83282150
Has Jane actually smiled before? Aside from her goofy regular mug, I can't actually remember?
>>83280189
Well, no, but getting Caliborn to hold still long enough to get trapped in Lil' Cal would require a really strong dude, and any chance of John (the only one strong enough of the kids to put a dent in Caliborn) being the guy to do it was taken away when Caliborn got him stuck in the house juju, so ARquius had to do it, being half Equius, and everything close to Caliborn went with him, including ARquius and half of Gamzee
>>83280773
>>83282217
I can't really remember if she has, I hardly payed attention to her.
Shit, this place really is /r/homestuck's anonymous board.
>>83282193
okay what the fuck is hurt/comfort
I've seen the term for 5 years now but i still don't understand what it is
>>83280124
>I always wanted to do something really important and heroic
>But something quite grandiose, and perfectly unmistakable as a gesture turning the tide of fortune for all of e%istence
>I would like my gesture to shock everyone
>It must come from out of the b100, make virtually no sense, stun all involved, and have a lasting, profoundly unintelligible impact an all future and pseudofuture events
I doubt that his plan was to become part of LE, but rather to help defeat Caliborn somehow. He did this, but ended up sucked into Cal with Caliborn's soul.
>>83282103
I just took it that the blade nicked the troll equivalent of a heart and her naturally boosted healing abilities as a teal blood couldn't keep up with the damage for very long. Determination and adrenaline fueling her dying spurt of character development and plan concoction.
>>83282217
>R3UN1ON
>finally getting the meeting
Thank you sweet merciful jesus
"I can't really remember if she has, I hardly payed attention to her." - Andrew Hussie
>>83282276
Liveblogger-san, I...
>>83282276
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
>>83282032
You were very accommodating and blessed the thread with your art work.
>>83282268
AR becoming part Equius was the fucking worst. Lil Hal used to be great.
>>83282261
I thought we were tumblr
>>83282276
hussie thinks you havent earned it yet friend
>>83282276
You got some booze on hand Liveblogger?
>>83282032
You promised me...1
MILLION
DOLLARS
>>83282263
a character is sad and then someone makes them happy
>>83282276
not yet, but soon
>>83282276
JOHN: i would love to have this sweet reunion all over again with you guys...
JOHN: we had some great conversations here on this lonely stone henge planet. i really wouldn't mind listening to everything we said again word for word!
JOHN: but i can't.
>>83282276
>R3UN1ON
uh?
>>83282276
> finally
oh jeez i cant watch
>>83282366
Hahahahaha
I hope you have some alcohol on hand, you're gonna need it.
>>83282366
dumb frogruser
>>83282336
HSG used to be more tumblr than this place. Now it's closer to /r/homestuck. I'm sure at least half the users here are active users from there.
>>83282263
someone is hurt
they are comforted
>>83282366
How clever and subversive!
every instance of *shoves vriska* before the gigapause
>>83282366
AT LEAST THEY FUCKING HUGGED
Hey
Its Me
Kanaya
>>83282409
thats a hell of a mystery no one thought was a mystery and didnt even really need solving
but damn if it didnt just get solved so nice work
>>83282414
gaaaaay
>>83282409
hey I remember some of these
>>83282449
This pairing is horrible and so are you.
>>83282263
It's a catharsis thing. Someone is knocked down, another character raises them up again. The reader empathises with the hurt character, links their own hurt to the fictional person, and gets pulled up when the narration pulls up the ficional character.
at least that's how I think it's supposed to work. it's not my thing.
>>83282414
>mayor shooting daggers as he watches John tryna muscle in on his best bro
Wow, what a deep and meaningful character.
>>83282414
Need who Dave? karkat? Gamzee?
Why now? Why karkat?
Did she even have a thing with karkat???
How nervous of an investor did you use to be, if at all?
>>83282497
>Did she even have a thing with karkat???
Literally read the conversation right before this.
>>83282505
completely until roxy
now all i see is roxy/john when i look at john
>>83282497
No one knows for sure, but probably Karkat. Maybe.
>>83282485
For some people the appeal is being able to help someone or/and having someone that needs you.
>>83282497
>Did she even have a thing with karkat???
Did you forget about everything between them?
>>83280189
what baffles me is how it 1)explains nothing 2)english didn't say a single word after so we don't even know how different his personality would be after caliborn
so what the fuck? what was the point?
>>83282505
The only ship I ever shipped was Roxygen, as soon as I realized we were getting young Mom.
>>83282497
half of terezis issues have been from her love quadrangle with karkat dave and then later gamzee on the meteor
>>83282497
>the final nail in the bloated, dripping coffin
This was a good update.
>>83282561
KatNep is deader than Karezi.
>>83282497
Are you at a loss?
>>83282520
>>83282535
Yes the relationship she dropped to go fuck the clown in pity and shame, I remember
>>83282497
>roxy dead
>>83282497
>just skipped right over the Meenska shit
LB come on
>>83282497
The whole thing is stupid, but it most likely applies to Karkat as, whilst they did have chemistry and clearly cared for each other, they were terrible for each other with the personal issues they each had lead to them both having impaired judgement on the journey.
In all honesty though, we didn't see any of the struggles they must have had over the 3 year journey, especially Terezi. So the whole scene doesn't hold much weight or deal with any of the actual problems the two had with each other, instead electing to just avoid them and never bring them up. Get used to that.
>>83282610
how convenient that everyone died so that there were no duplicates
was caliborn's masterpiece after all this?
I forgot
>>83282610
Right. There was a dead Roxy who was actually a different person but who cares we got someone who is pretty much her but not technically
Whatever.
>>83282610
she never really dropped anything it was a mess and never stopped being one
>>83282578
Did he throw up or something?
>>83282610
HERE IT COMES
>>83282643
yeah
>>83282658
I wasn't sure, but I guess that's what happened.
>>83282610
>Roxy and Jade are the only ones to bother with funerals
Youch
>>83282622
Wow a character I dislike is ghost gay with a character I used to like then despised again
Wow
>>83282627
Its really stupid, the most we saw of their 'relationship' was karakt wanting to make the grid with dave then nothing then karkat confront terezi with her clown problem
What fucking relationship did they fucking have? We sure didn't fucking see it.
>>83282539
The point was to make Hal the dominant personality in Doc Scratch. And there are some minor connections between Scratch and Equius. Also LE needed to honk.
We did see LE talk once.
>GIRL. YOU THERE. GIRL. GIRL, QUIT ALL THIS SCURRYING AROUND. DO YOU BELIEVE YOU CAN ESCAPE ME BEFORE I ARRIVE? HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO OUTRUN ME. WHEN I AM ALREADY HERE?
It has the short phrases with periods thing that Caliborn likes to do, but was at the time more a reference to WV speak than anything.
>>83282689
Fucking hell, no wonder he looks out of it. I can't think of many greater turn off than that.
Homestuck is a deep and complex story of a man in his 30s winging a story to an unsatisfying conclusion.
>>83282691
Karkat and Terezi had a long history since Hivebent. They never stopped caring about each other.
was there a funeral for Vriska?
I mean, she's a ghost, so it's not like we'll never see her again, but she was kinda a big character, I guess?
>>83282730
>. They never stopped caring about each other.
post-retcon
>>83282691
>What fucking relationship did they fucking have? We sure didn't fucking see it.
Did you read Act 5 or was that a different liveblogger in your place
>>83282691
they kissed on the roof straight after terezi killed vriska too. their on/off shit was one of the better illustrated romances imo
>>83282691
>Its really stupid, the most we saw of their 'relationship' was karakt wanting to make the grid with dave then nothing then karkat confront terezi with her clown problem
What fucking relationship did they fucking have? We sure didn't fucking see it.
I think you may have missed their big moment during Meenahquest. I seem to recall it was sort of hidden?
>>83282658
That's squidbiscuit right? I know she has a thing for force feeding and vomit, usually with a side of weight gain.
Her art has been the subject of quite a few shitposts throughout the years.
>>83282778
what, karkat and terezi? I don't remember them kissing
lmao at everyone bein mad liveblogger forgot karkat/terezi
>>83282658
yes. squidbiscuit was doing overeating & bulimia fetish pictures for over a year.
>>83282775
Wipe your hard drive.
>>83282820
her forgetting karkat/terezi is the most compelling evidence that it's not a ruse to date, to be honest
>>83282816
'sloppy makeouts on the roof', then they get all super close and the camera points at their legs
![03841[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/fJ2gu5Q.gif "03841[1].gif")
>>83282778
yes this is conclusively a post murder kiss and not an embrace of mutual comfort
>>83282758
Those are pretenders made important due to shitty writing. I refuse to recognize their sovereignty.
>>83282816
It was more of a hug with the faces not shown.
>>83282691
Gee whiz john now you're getting it
>>83282730
>>83282761
When they started the 3 year trip and had all of like 1 conversation together. Its seems like a weird thing for terezi to go 'yeah instead of being more clear with karkat, lets just fuck around and allow myself to end up down with the clown as if that wasn't the actual issue.'
>>83282800
Where terezi is sad she isn't r4d enough and then go gets her vision fixed like a retard
Where karakt actually shows he cares about her way more than like any other character
The character she doesn't need? That conversation?
>>83282842
your disgust makes KatNep all the cuter
>>83282859
Tell me about Katnep.
Why does he post the pics?
>>83282691
Yup the troll's interpersonal relationships were handled in such a terrible manner it's almost laughable, given they were one of the big draws for much of the viewer base at peak popularity. Terezi and Karkat had the interactions, they just never added up to anything really meaningful for a romantic relationship before Karkat fucked their thing up and did his whole jealousy juggling act with Dave.
join us
>>83282816
They hugged.
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005767
>>83282800
>I seem to recall it was sort of hidden?
It's required to progress, you can't miss it.
Unless you skip it.
![03840_2[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/7E6XVYb.gif "03840_2[1].gif")
>>83282845
Yeah, see the way she uses 3s and 4s? Nobody but Terezi could have written this.
>>83282859
Throw your computer out of your window.
>>83282868
Did you miss how she threatened to kill Damara if she'd so much as a lay a finger on sleeping karkat? Which mirrored Latula doing the same just with Mituna instead of Karkat?
>>83282811
I can only imagine, appreciate the clarification anon.
>>83282868
>lets just fuck around and allow myself to end up down with the clown as if that wasn't the actual issue.'
She was dating Dave when she got down with the clown, her and Karkat's on off thing was well over by then.
to be fair, a lot of karezi was hidden in parts of the story that liveblogger was inclined to skim
I don't like shipping.
>>83282691
>>83282800
From Meenahquest for those who don't remember:
KARKAT: TEREZI, WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE? I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE ASLEEP.
TEREZI: SHRUG
KARKAT: WHY ARE YOU HERE ALL ALONE IN THE WOODS? OR THE PRETEND WOODS, I GUESS.
KARKAT: AND WHY DO YOU HAVE YOUR DRAGON COSPLAY PULLED DOWN LIKE THAT? IS SOMETHING THE MATTER?
TEREZI: NO
TEREZI: 1M F1N3
KARKAT: YOU DON'T SOUND FINE. DON'T BULLSHIT ME LIKE THAT, I KNOW WHEN SOMETHING'S UP WITH YOU.
TEREZI: K4RK4T PL34S3 JUST L34V3 M3 4LON3
KARKAT: OK, I GET IT IF YOU WANT SOME ALONE TIME. I MEAN, I ACTUALLY JUST GOT DONE SULKING THE FUCK OUT MYSELF JUST NOW.
KARKAT: BUT IT REALLY HELPS TO TALK TO SOMEBODY. YOU CAN TALK TO ME ABOUT STUFF, YOU KNOW THAT RIGHT?
TEREZI: Y34H, 1 GU3SS
KARKAT: IS IT DAVE? DID HE DO SOMETHING DOUCHEY AGAIN?
TEREZI: ...
KARKAT: DID HE BREAK UP WITH YOU? HE BROKE UP WITH YOU, DIDN'T HE. I KNEW IT, I COULD JUST SEE THE WRITING ON THE WA...
TEREZI: H3 D1DNT BR34K UP W1TH M3!!!
TEREZI: 1T H4S NOTH1NG TO DO W1TH D4V3
KARKAT: OK THEN WHAT
cont...
>>83282877
Doesn't make it canon, though.
>>83282884
No.
>>83282868
Eh, there were
>implied
conversations between the two in those 3 years, but mostly they just started drifting apart because they were both too busy with Gamzee and Karkat thought he could try to pull her into all his corners, which in doing so only drove her out farther
>>83282889
ok this shit may not be provable but come on they definitely kissed
>>83282918
>>83282868
Also I don't remember when, maybe A6I5, Karkat explains that Terezi moved on to Dave because Karkat was sending too many mixed signals.
>>83282820
I think it's more the touching on a can of worms that is the whole Karkat/Terezi thing. Did they have a thing? Was it shown well in the comic? Were they fucking awful for each other etc etc.
>>83282880
I only want what's best for them and us.
>>83282959
That's the worst possible pairing that could happen.
>>83282945
When someone just had to kill one of their old friends and you approach them, having lost several friends this day as well, is it time for sloppy makeouts or time for a hug, maybe I'm misunderstanding when the appropriate time for makeouts is.
>>83282935
>TEREZI: H3 D1DNT BR34K UP W1TH M3!!!
Yeah, but
He did though
>>83282945
they probably kissed during their "moment"
>>83282935
TEREZI: 1TS
TEREZI: MY 4NC3STOR
KARKAT: YEAH? WHAT ABOUT HER.
TEREZI: SH3
TEREZI: SH3S JUST
TEREZI: SO
TEREZI: R4D1C4L >:[
KARKAT: HUH?
TEREZI: 1 JUST D1D NOT KNOW 1T W4S 3V3N POSS1BL3
TEREZI: TO B3 SO R4D
TEREZI: 1 4LMOST C4NT H4NDL3 1T K4RK4T
TEREZI: TH3 R4DN3SS
TEREZI: HOW DO3S SH3 DO 1T?
KARKAT: WELL, LET'S SEE. SHE RIDES A FUCKING SKATEBOARD. AND THAT'S IT. PRETTY MUCH END OF THE EXPLANATION.
TEREZI: 1 TH1NK 1T 1S SO MUCH MOR3 TH4N TH4T
TEREZI: 3V3RYON3 LOV3S H3R
TEREZI: SH3 1S SO S4SSY 4ND FUN, SH3S TH3 B3ST 4T G4M3S, 4ND 4LL H3R STUNTS 4R3 1NCR3D1BL3
TEREZI: HOW 4M 1 SUPPOS3D TO M34SUR3 UP TO TH4T?
KARKAT: OH COME ON
KARKAT: DON'T TELL ME THIS IS GOING TO BE A THING WITH YOU NOW.
TEREZI: WH4T TH1NG?
KARKAT: A SELF ESTEEM THING.
KARKAT: YOU REALLY SHOULDN'T BE LIKE THAT, IT'S JUST SO UNWARRANTED.
TEREZI: W3LL TH4TS HOW 1 F33L, SO TOO B4D!!!
KARKAT: TEREZI, I CAN'T STRESS THIS ENOUGH. YOU ARE *NOT* IN ANYONE'S SHADOW.
KARKAT: LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING ABOUT OUR ANCESTORS.
KARKAT: THEY'RE ALL ASSHOLES!!!
TEREZI: >:|
TEREZI: SH3 1S NOT 4N 4SSHOL3
KARKAT: NO, SHE IS. TRUST ME.
KARKAT: THEY ALL ARE. AT LEAST THE VAST MAJORITY.
KARKAT: THEY PRACTICALLY AREN'T EVEN PEOPLE. THEY'RE WALKING, TALKING, LIKE...
KARKAT: I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PUT IT. ALMOST LIKE LIVING PARODIES OF HORRIBLE, CLICHED BEHAVIOR PATTERNS.
TEREZI: WH4T, YOU M34N L1K3...
TEREZI: T33N4G3RS?
KARKAT: YES.
KARKAT: BUT IT'S MORE THAN JUST THAT. TAKE MY ANCESTOR FOR EXAMPLE.
KARKAT: TOTAL ASSHOLE! PROBABLY THE WORST ASSHOLE THERE IS.
KARKAT: YOU WOULDN'T KNOW IT RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE I GUESS HE DOESN'T YELL AT PEOPLE LIKE ME? BUT THAT PROBABLY MAKES IT WORSE.
KARKAT: HE JUST GOES ON AND ON ABOUT THE MOST SANCTIMONIOUS, INCOMPREHENSIBLE GARBAGE YOU EVER HEARD. HE THINKS HE'S BETTER THAN EVERYONE BUT THEN DRESSES IT UP IN THIS BOGUS HYPER-ACADEMIC HUMILITY. HE TRIES TO DEFEND PEOPLE WITH "PROBLEMS" BUT JUST WINDS UP INSULTING THOSE PEOPLE IN BACKHANDED WAYS.
>Terezi: Remem8er didn't have pre-retcon Karkat and Kanaya showing up
FUCK HUSSIE
>>83282982
Nobody knew about Gamzee in Intermission 3, except for Rose who finds out and tells Kanaya. he breaks up with her after this.
>>83282997
HE LECTURES PEOPLE ENDLESSLY, AND WHENEVER HE RISES TO THE "DEFENSE" OF HIS FRIENDS HE USUALLY ENDS UP GIVING THEM A BIG FUCK YOU BY BEING IMPLICITLY JUDGMENTAL.
KARKAT: I COULD REALLY GO ON FOREVER ABOUT HIM, BUT I WON'T, BECAUSE THEN I'D BE STOOPING TO HIS LEVEL.
TEREZI: H3H3...
KARKAT: AND YOUR ANCESTOR? YEAH, SHE'S "FUN" I GUESS. BUT TALK ABOUT A PHONY.
KARKAT: OH AND I DON'T GIVE A *FUCK* WHAT ANYONE SAYS, LOSING YOUR SENSE OF SMELL IS NOT A REAL DISABILITY!!!
KARKAT: HER RAD GIRL THING IS SUCH AN OBVIOUS ACT. SHE'S CLEARLY WORKED FOR SWEEPS ON PERFECTING IT, AND QUITE APPARENTLY REVELS IN THE ATTENTION IT GETS HER.
KARKAT: BUT THE FACT THAT SHE WORKS SO HARD ON IT IS EXACTLY WHY YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.
KARKAT: YOU DON'T EVEN NEED TO TRY TO BE THE GOOD PERSON YOU ALREADY ARE.
KARKAT: SEE, YOU ALREADY KNOW HOW TO HAVE FUN AND BE LIKABLE BY JUST BEING YOURSELF. IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE PART OF SOME OVER THE TOP SCHTICK TO IMPRESS PEOPLE. WHEN SHE DOES THE RAD GIRL THING IT'S LIKE A DISGUISE, PROBABLY COVERING UP SOME PART OF HERSELF SHE'S UNHAPPY WITH. BUT WHEN YOU WITHDRAW AND COVER YOURSELF UP LIKE THAT, YOU'RE ACTUALLY JUST PREVENTING PEOPLE FROM SEEING SOMEONE WHO'S ALREADY BEAUTIFUL.
TEREZI: ...
KARKAT: I KNOW I COMPLETELY FUCKED UP WITH YOU. THIS ISN'T, UH... OK. I'M NOT LIKE TRYING TO REDEEM MYSELF HERE. I MADE MY RECUPERACOON AND NOW I HAVE TO WRIGGLE AROUND IN ITS SLIME. I TOTALLY ACCEPT THAT. BUT AS YOUR FRIEND I REALLY DON'T WANT YOU TO START FEELING BAD ABOUT YOURSELF BECAUSE OF ONE OF THESE SHALLOW, TWO DIMENSIONAL DIPSHITS. BUT I TOTALLY CONCEDE THAT YOU MADE YOUR CHOICE ABOUT ME, AND I RESPECT YOUR DECISION. I JUST WANT YOU TO BE HAPPY IS ALL.
TEREZI: ...
KARKAT: OK, I'M PROBABLY JUST STICKING MY FOOT IN MY FUCKING TALK BLASTER YET AGAIN, AND I'M PROBABLY MAKING YOU UNCOMFORTABLE. I GUESS I'LL GO BACK TO MY ROOM NOW. I HOPE YOU TAKE AT LEAST SOME OF WHAT I SAID SERIOUSLY THOUGH.
KARKAT: UM. YEAH. OK, BYE.
>>83282979
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
>>83282997
>>83283024
>KARKAT: BUT IT'S MORE THAN JUST THAT. TAKE MY ANCESTOR FOR EXAMPLE.
>KARKAT: TOTAL ASSHOLE! PROBABLY THE WORST ASSHOLE THERE IS.
>KARKAT: YOU WOULDN'T KNOW IT RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE I GUESS HE DOESN'T YELL AT PEOPLE LIKE ME? BUT THAT PROBABLY MAKES IT WORSE.
>KARKAT: HE JUST GOES ON AND ON ABOUT THE MOST SANCTIMONIOUS, INCOMPREHENSIBLE GARBAGE YOU EVER HEARD. HE THINKS HE'S BETTER THAN EVERYONE BUT THEN DRESSES IT UP IN THIS BOGUS HYPER-ACADEMIC HUMILITY. HE TRIES TO DEFEND PEOPLE WITH "PROBLEMS" BUT JUST WINDS UP INSULTING THOSE PEOPLE IN BACKHANDED WAYS. HE LECTURES PEOPLE ENDLESSLY, AND WHENEVER HE RISES TO THE "DEFENSE" OF HIS FRIENDS HE USUALLY ENDS UP GIVING THEM A BIG FUCK YOU BY BEING IMPLICITLY JUDGMENTAL.
>KARKAT: I COULD REALLY GO ON FOREVER ABOUT HIM, BUT I WON'T, BECAUSE THEN I'D BE STOOPING TO HIS LEVEL.
Did Karkat just insult himself?
>>83282997
>TEREZI: 3V3RYON3 LOV3S H3R
the trolls having blinders regarding their dancestors was a great running gag
>>83282979
>the worst possible pairing
The only problem with it is that Karkat isn't interested in Nepeta. If Karkat was interested, it would be a decent pairing, not actively terrible for either character.
>>83282383
This board is afraid of me
I've seen it's true face
>>83282868
I feel ya John
>>83282868
>Trusting sexual ghost
>>83282944
>>83282918
>>83282948
I just didn't care too much for karkat/terezi, or really terezi in general. Like the tower conversation was cute but everything after that was a mess because 'lol quadrants' and not in the satisfying soap opera way but in a boring, I really don't care about how this shit plays out way.
>>83283118
Well you asked if she had a thing with Karkat, which she obviously did.
>>83283024
And then Terezi realized that she can't always rely on other people, so she told her retcon self she doesn't need them.
Except for a Vriska who has not learned anything regarding respecting other people, because I guess (Terezi) wants the new one to gain independence from Vriska and get rid of using her to fill a self esteem void with other people, which caused a lot of issues for (Terezi) to begin with. And (TZ) got over her issues because she made up with (Vriska).
But (Karkat) or Karkat? Not important here.
>>83283118
I guess I'm biased because I read this shit as a pent-up teen but that seems really, I dunno
Like missing the point or something
>>83283024
That just makes me wonder how much of Terezi's personality is natural and how much of it is her putting on that weird girl act. Depending on that Karkat could have just made her feel even worse, which would be a very Karkat thing to do I suppose.
Fuck, it would help if Terezi wasn't all over the place emotionally speaking. I still have no fucking clue what her base line is, she suggests she has huge issues in being genuine with her feelings so just what was she actually like? I wish we'd seen more of her interacting with people who weren't problem children like Karkat and Vriska to just get a hold of her deal.
Was there a character the retcon didn't screw up?
>>83282981
'misunderstanding when the appropriate time for makeouts is' the the most in character possible thing for both karkat and terezi
>>83283178
Terezi is a stupid asshole who doesn't communicate and it ruined her entire life with Vriska, Karkat, the kids, and everyone else
the end
>>83283197
roxy?
>>83283205
Yes. She's a great character.
>>83283118
wow 2 characters i don't care about are gay
What an incredible story development
>>83282622
Reminder that Nepeta was the key to Karkat unlocking his potential and he did nothing but ignore her or push her away while selfishly pursuing relationships that had no payoff or chemistry.
>>83283197
Roxy, John, Aradia, Tavros
Dave and Dirk, despite what autists will tell you
>>83283118
well i guess since you considered it a shitty relationship you should therefore be happy terezi is preventing it.
>>83283209
She wasn't affected by the retcon.
>>83283197
Kanaya.
>>83283233
Man I wanted you to be way more flippant than this
I even shitposted pretending to be you pretending to be more flippant than this
What a disappointment
>>83283205
I find it hard to disagree, which is a shame as she was setup as this cool, weird alien obsessed with their alien justice system.
>>83283251
exactly
>>83283233
vriska is 13 and meenah is 19 good job andrew
>>83283233
It's not a story development that they're gay, trolls are binormative anyway
>>83283267
that only makes it hotter
>>83283237
Hey now, those doomed ventures had chemistry KatNep anon. But I agree with your other point.
>>83283267
meenahs speech about how she is born to be a pedo is the best condesce character development possible though
>>83283267
that's kinda hot
>>83283251
Kanaya was already dead, character wise, by that point.
