>Mr Moore, will you sign my copy of DC Rebirth?
>>83246066
>>83246066
Nicely done.
![[Spoons Rattling].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ybilB6n.jpg "[Spoons Rattling].jpg")
>>83246066
Well done OP.
What does Alan Moore even think of Geoff Johns?
>>83246790
A 12 year old trapped in a man's body.
>>83246868
He's not wrong.
>superheroes was a mistake
It's funny because this is something he actually said.
>>83246986
good, you go back to making Halo Jones you rusty old fuck, it's not like we saved your fucking career or anything
>>83247034
You seem upset.
>>83246790
A talantless guy that has never had an original idea on his live.
>>83246986
>superheroes was a mistake
>was
>this is something he actually said
Wow, Moore is a hack.
How'd a guy like Moore get involved with capes anyways?
>>83246790
Commenting on Blackest Night, he indirectly compared him to a racoon looking for food in his trash
>>83247596
Ironic coming from the guy who wrote league of extraordinary gentlemen.
>>83247694
And Lost Girls
>>83247586
He truly loved them but as childish tales, and thought it would be fun to deconstruct them in dark and adult stories. But he didn't like that everyone thought that was the way to write superheroes.
>>83247772
He's mad as fuck that they stripped superheroes of their original innocence, but ironically he's one of the people most responsible for it. Either he's stupid or he's really humble and underestimated the impact Watchmen would have on the industry.
>>83247596
Didn't Moore actually invent the Blackest Night concept?
>>83247804
That's what he meant
>>83247887
I figured, I just wasn't sure.
>>83247804
Johns lifted so much of his GL run from Tygers.
>>83247694
It's been a while since I've read League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, but wasn't Moore very humble about the whole thing, and gave credit where credit was due? Because that seems different from ripping somebody off for Big Event #143.
>>83246066
I wonder if Grant Morrison convinced Johns to do this.
>>83247975
>>83247694
And I've heard that before writing Miracle Man he consulted with the original creator (or something, I never bothered to look it up)
>>83247801
I wonder if he'd be happy about DC becoming more lighthearted with Rebirth then, even if it does blame his creation.
>>83247801
>writes grimdark edgefests like Swamp Thing, Marvelman, Watchmen, Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow, Killing Joke, V for Vendetta, and the Twilight of the Superheroes pitch
>"Guys why are you copying me????"
>>83248083
Dude
I think you're overestimating this "brinking back hope" thingie
Like, a lot
>>83248066
Wait, so from the left it's Alan Moore and Neil Gaiman, then from the right is Morrison, Johns in the rape shirt. Who's the Irish guy and the guy stuffing his face?
>>83248148
Millar's in the rape shirt, Irish guy is Ennis, the stuffer is Ellis.
>>83248148
>Johns in the rape shirt
I'm pretty sure that's Millar, not Johns. Why would Johns be in a rape shirt?
>Who's the Irish guy and the guy stuffing his face?
Garth Ennis and Warren Ellis
>>83248148
I think the guy stuffing has face is Ellis, and the Irish guy is Ennis. The guy in the rape shirt is Millar.
>>83248259
but Ennis doesn't have a strong Irish accent at all
>>83247034
>we
which superhero are you anon?
>>83248363
I knew they came on 4chan.
>>83248308
It's mostly the vulgarity of what he's saying that tips you off not really him being irish
>>83248308
He does have one, so it's exaggerated for comedy.
>>83248066
I need these six drawn as a superteam.
Or at least 2 competing superteams. The Magic Men vs the Edgeheads.
>>83248144
Possibly, the Rebirth Special was my introduction to the DCU but that scene where Wally comes back was full of hope.
>>83248144
especially when Miss "I make coldsteel look tame" Grail is still around.
![[Unintellegible british insults].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3ZDsQC9.jpg "[Unintellegible british insults].jpg")
>>83248066
Pic related.
>>83248505
Wow, this guy should work for cartoon network lolz.
>>83247975
His Harry Potter treatment alone was disrespectful and mean-spirited. And referencing old canon is not ripping someone off.
I don't know why people give Moore a pass on this hypocrisy.
>>83248308
>Strong Irish accent
Americans can barely tell the difference between English/Scotch/Irish let alone when one is strong or not.
>>83248049
I can see Johns generally coming up with the meta theme since he's done similar stuff with SBP already but Morrison definitely egged him on to use Watchmen in particular just to piss off Moore.
>>83248566
gotta say I agree with the HP treatment.
I'm not a fan of Harry Potter at all, but I have crazy respect for Rowling for literally turning a few generations of kids onto reading.
>>83248308
That's because he's from the North.
>>83248566
>And referencing old canon is not ripping someone off
Johns didn't reference though, he stole it whole-hog.
>His Harry Potter treatment alone was disrespectful and mean-spirited
Anon please. The Boys is disrespectful and mean-spirited, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen ain't nothing.
>>83248617
Yeah it's not a masterpiece or anything but it's good to introduce them to low key fantasy shit. I don't get hating it.
>>83248668
The Boys isn't particularly mean, because it's aiming at a genre, at a style, not at an individual.
>>83248668
Harry Potter was the antichrist and he murdered everyone in Hogwarts, later killing a member of the League by shooting lightning out of his penis. I'm pretty sure that tops any disrespect in the Boys.
>>83248668
>Johns didn't reference though, he stole it whole-hog.
He basically only used the prophecy to frame his rainbow lanterns run. He retold the story so that people wouldn't have to go back to it, but that's not stealing any more than retelling other character history moments is. But because it's Moore people freak out and treat it differently for some reason as if old canon should never be referenced when that's never true.
>>83248748
Did somebody get raped?
>>83248818
I don't think Moore ever said "REEEEE STOP USING MY IDEAS", he just made snarky comments about the general lack of originality in the industry
>>83248864
Not yet, but the night is young.
>>83248919
Which is pretty ironic coming from a man who published a graphic novel of Victorian kidlit erotic fanfiction.
>>83248864
The Invisible Man was raped to death by Mr. Hyde.
>>83248971
But he talks about how none of the characters are his own. And you gotta admit that you've never really seen anything like Lost Girls in comic books.
>>83248080
Did he? I always thought he met the original creator after he wrote the comic.
>>83248998
Jimmy Bond was also a serial rapist, but that's canon to the book.
Moore made Voldemort an attempted rapist as well.
>>83248406
But that premise assumes that Alan Moore and Grant Morisson are on the same side.
>>83248998
ah, not THE Invisible man, remember.
>>83249084
that's where the gritty team balance of power comes from!
>>83248668
>Johns didn't reference though, he stole it whole-hog.
Did you even read Johns' comics or Moore's GL stories, or are you just parroting what Moore and his defenders say?
>>83248505
wizard battles sounded more elegant in my head
>>83246066
OP was not a faggot this day.
>>83249047
>Moore made Voldemort an attempted rapist as well.
Was that canon to the original book?
>>83249208
No, Voldemort had serious mummy issues and was intimidated by women
>>83246868
Moore or Geoff?
>>83249208
Voldemort was probably a virgin.
>>83249245
Why can't it be both?
>>83249233
In all honesty that sounds like a rapist in the making.
>>83249208
his mom raped his dad with a love potion but Voldemort himself didn't rape anyone
>>83248998
>The Invisible Man
HOW DID YOU SEE HIM THEN, YOU FUCKING PRICK?
>>83249270
This.
>>83249290
Actually in an incredibly gross and clever reveal, where previously invisible blood begins appearing all over his rapists hips and body.
YOU FUCKING PRICK.
>>83249290
The change that turned him into Hyde allowed him to see him somehow.
>>83249208
yes voldy raped harry
>>83249290
It was actually a really well done scene. When Mr. Hyde leaves, he is covered in invisible blood. After Griffin died, the blood became visible, to the horror of Captain Nemo.
>>83249011
No, you're right. Usually stuff that good comes from Deviantart.
>>83249381
It's clearly shown that his vision extends into the infrared spectrum.
ie he can see heat.
>>83249420
The lightning scar was actually from a cum shot.
>>83248668
>implying canon can be "stolen"
>The Boys is worse than nuLEG
Hahaha holy shit Moorefags are cancer
>>83249270
Tom seems like the kind of dude who doesn't like to be touched. I could see him orchestrating a rape as a power move, but not actually doing the deed himself.
>>83248066
Why are British people so awful?
>>83249023
I just looked it up. Apparently at the time it wasn't really clear who Miracle Man belonged to, and when Alan Moore was told about how the character was never copyrighted by the owner he said
>Well, if I’d known that, I would have never taken the job, and, yes, if I can help, I do feel bad that I must have been instrumental in taking these rights from their rightful owner, whoever that might be
Apparently when Marvel took the rights to publish his MM Moore wanted his name off the book, and he wanted Mick Anglo to take all of the money he should've gained from the re-publishing
>I'm very happy for this book to get published — because that means money will finally go to Marvelman’s creator, Mick Anglo, and to his wife ... The main thing is that I will feel happy to know that Mick Anglo is finally getting the recompense he so richly deserves
Although this interview i'm reading is a bit messy and i'm kind of in a hurry, so if there's something more to the story i wouldn't know right now
>>83249011
>But he talks about how none of the characters are his own.
And you think current comic writers operate under some delusion that they created Batman or Superman? Moore didn't even really create many characters being used today besides Mogo
>>83248148
>Johns in the rape shirt
How could you possibly make this assumption
>I don't know who Ennis and Ellis are
Ah, that's how
The funny thing is that Moore cant seem to shake his raging throbbing write-on for Superman. As he always seems to find a way to write a Superman knock off in Supreme, Tom Strong and I think there are other examples too.
I don't blame him he's one of the very few writers that actually gets Superman and does him justice.
With that said i envisioned Moore walking into his local comics shop to check out the latest indie comics. Giving that smug sneer as he walks past the Marvel and DC racks.
Having the counter guy say "Hey Alan there is something you should see" and giving him a copy of rebirth,
And I would pay to see the look on his face when he got to the last 7 pages
>>83249880
>Giving that smug sneer
Does Moore even sneer?
>>83249880
Tom Strong's really more of a Doc Savage/Tarzan analogue though. I mean probably there are some comparisons to Superman (and the fact that Chris Sprouse was one of the artist on Supreme prior to working on Tom Strong) but he's more like Doc Savage if anything.
>>83247975
Johns didn't rip him. It would be ripping him off if he had made a similar story with similar elements, but what Johns did was take a very vague concept from a short story and use it to build a several issues long cosmic epic while adding his own ideas.
Morrison said it best in supergods: Writers are like worker bees who help bring new life to the dc multiverse with the stories they write. Their ideas become part of a bigger tapestry. Johns has also acknowledged the same idea in a Rebirth interview. But for some reason Moore seems unable to grasp this concept.
>>83248080
He gave the original creator all the rights and money after finding oit he got ripped off
>>83250115
>But for some reason Moore seems unable to grasp this concept.
you seem to assume a lack of understanding instead of just disagreeing. especially since Moore is so into creator rights and being part of the multiverse seems to translate into not having those
>>83250031
He does that great cockney 'snort and eye roll'.
>>83247975
>>83247596
>>83250115
But it would kinda be the same as Neil Gaiman taking concepts from Moore that were in Sandman. Or even Moore himself taking many concepts from other writers in Swamp Thing.
I like Alan Moore and I understand some of his beefs with Marvel and DC. But sometimes im just like let it go man when I read some of his rants at the companies. But for better or worse he would not even be THE Alan Moore if it was not for DC. At least Gaiman appreciates that the company gave him the opportunity to be a star
>>83250115
Is comparing writers to mindless insects really the best of ideas?
I really want to know Moore's response to Rebirth. I know he'll never read it, so he just has to hear about it somewhere.
>>83250660
It's probably just gonna be apathy mixed with pity, knowing Moore.
>>83250115
That sounds like the same shit John Byrne said about being 'cogs in the machine' decades ago dressed up in Morrison's new age-flavored corporate bullshit.
>>83250660
I would think comics fans in his neighborhood are chomping at the bit to see him walking around to ask him about it or even dropping copies on his doorstep
>>83250660
He's sacrificing someone to Glycon as we speak.
>>83250578
It's a metaphore, bees don't write good stories.
>>83250758
And they don't star in them either.
>>83250926
how dare you
Wait, Harry Potter exists in LOEG as some fucked up antichrist?
What the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-
Oh, read your Little Lulu, Moore.
>>83251060
haha
that's outrageous
>>83248083
Nah, he says he's not interested in superhero comics anymore since they're not for 7 years old anymore.
>>83248113
Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow is not a grimdark edgefest
>>83251060
>>83251128
Yep
>>83251532
>>83248113
Have you even read those comics?
>>83247946
>lifted
More like played out concepts Moore set up. He didn't steal anything, he just followed through.
>>83246066
You can probably convince him to write "this is a piece of shit, -signed Alan Moore" on it, if you go up to him with copies of the last 3 Nemo books (even tho the last 2 were shit).
This I'd argue to be even more valuable than a straight autograph.
>>83247946
>>83247975
Claiming Geoff Johns ripped off Moore is laughable when the stuff he's referencing comes from a Green Lantern story Moore did which was an explanation of why Abin Sur crashed landed on Earth instead of using the ring to save himself. It's like complaining about Steve Englehart ripping off the first Deadshot comic just because he brought back Deadshot during his Detective Comcs run.
Now if Johns had ripped off V For Vendetta or the ABC line for Green Lantern then yeah, you'd have a point. But it seems retarded to say someone is ripping off a Green Lantern story to work on a Green Lantern story.
