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ITT: Worst episodes from their respective shows
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>>83133529
What's the matter, OP? You think it's wrong to teach kids that crossdressing is acceptable?

What are you? A shitlord?
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>>83133529
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It's not even /co/ related but Daedalus from Star Trek: Enterprise. That episode was just so awful relative to the rest of the series. It's like it was directed by a child.
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>>83133529
I actually liked the song in that episode
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>>83133683
Some people just try too hard...
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To be fair to this episode, it got shown out of order.
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>>83134456
Fucking casual. What's Opera Doc is considered one of Chuck Jones' best pieces. And who doesn't smirk when Elmer calls forth smog with the other elements?

If you're refering to Looney Tunes in general, there are worse choices. Like the ones with the gophers or the crow.
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>>83134698
It's okay, you're supposed to.
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>>83134698
>>83137770
it's an episode called sadie's song, the va is a singer, and yet the episode ends with steven singing it in a dress. i felt so cucked.
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>>83137920
We all wanted Sadie to get her moment, but the point was she didn't want to be in the spotlight due to her meddling mom.

That said, I would have loved hearing Kate sing.
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>>83138053
Wouldn't of have been a better resolution for Sadie to just go out and song her song without all the theatrics, to show that Steven and Barb understood that they were wrong to try and push Sadie to be something she wasn't?

She was excited about singing until all the makeup and costumes and theatrics were involved.
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>>83138119
It feels like a cop out, but it was more important for her to get her point across to her mom than to show or prove her talents.

The ending you described feels typical, and I'm sure some decision was made not to include it for whatever reason.
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>>83138119
>>83138177
If they really wanted to go for a more interesting ending, they would have flipped the moral around and made it around Steven who was bonding so much with Sadie's mom over dancing because that's what he's always wanted to do with his own mother. The idea was there, it just didn't seem to be prominent or highlighted.

Like, no one gives a shit about Sadie except Raven and Rebecca apparently, I don't know why they keep giving her and Lars solo episodes.
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what was the point of this? it wasn't funny, it made no sense and it was boring as hell.
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There are way worse episodes of Steven Universe. This one was a middle of the road townies episode that just triggers your SJW paranoia despite how many other shows make cross dressing jokes.

Love Letters, The Message, and House Guest are the 3 worst episodes with not a single joke between the 3 of them.
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>>83138378
SU in general is pretty inconsistent when it comes to quality, but I'd personally add The Answer and all of Sardonyx week as well. Fucking hell, Ruby and Sapphire are the worst characters in this show. At least Pearl can be entertaining through her madness, those two do nothing but make any episode they're in worse.

Also Steven's Birthday was god awful. It was literally a rehash of Too Many Birthdays plus Connie, it was just lazy.
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>>83133529
That's not any Ronaldo or Onion episode ever.
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>>83138870
Any gripes you have with that are nothing compared to a Hellen Jo episode. You're putting a lot of good shit on your awful list. Not the best shit and has it's flaws, but I would never tell anyone to skip that shit, story relevant or not.
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>>83138271
Are you fucking retarded?
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>>83138271
2deep4u
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>>83139123
>>83139128

care to enlighten me? i figured people would try to find some deep meaning behind it.
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>>83139123
>>83139128
Then explain please.
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>>83134456
I want to fuck that horse
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>>83138263
Because they're two of the characters Rebecca created in college. They're basically the "Creator's pet" characters
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>>83138378
Face it the episode was shit. You live in a fantasy make believe world if you think that wasn't the worst piece of shit Stephen Universe has ever produced. Shame on you for comparing "House Guest" to "Sadie's Song," they're not even on the same level, and those who whine about the Greg episode often say they have an irrational hatred for the character who has done nothing wrong.
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>>83139627
And here we have the only person in the world who will defend a Hellen Jo episode. Even if all else fails, we can at least say Sadies Song animated normally and wasn't regular show levels of "Keep everyone in a strait line at 3/4th angle all the time" levels of lazy in addition to a shit script and shit jokes. The only thing House Guest had going for it was an ok song that was ruined by shit animation to go with it.
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I would give this analogy and turd with sprinkles. It'll still be shit
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and the shitty episode after it
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>>83139679
No one's saying Jo isn't the worst border when it comes to animation. But animation doesn't equal writing and in this case Sadie's Song definitely worse than House Guest
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>>83133529
the fuck is that?
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>>83139299
I'm sure someone can explain this better than me but I'll try anyway.

>Blue Nose enters the arena with a cart of oranges and shows an act of taking an orange and rolling it in ground. The crowd observes it without any expression. Blue Nose finds a puppet bee in the cart, and wakes it up. It wakes up, and Blue Nose puts him on the ground. They both dance for a moment, then suddenly the bee dies and is taken off stage. Due to this boring act, the crowd criticizes Blue Nose, however, there is one little ant which is seen touched by the act and crying, although nobody notices her.

Jake's play is representative of films/tv shows/books with deep and meaningful plot.

The crowd is the general vewing audience.

The ant is the small minority of people who actually like stuff like that.

Pretty much someone complaining that people don't share his superior taste
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>>83139971
Not the same responders but I approve of your explanation
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>>83133529
>Not Alone Together

I've never felt more uncomfortable watching a cartoon
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>>83140222
Fusion is just a cheap tactic to make weak gems stronger
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>>83139877
Boarding is more than just animation quality but Hellen Jo's writing is terrible too though. She has this obsessive need to spell everything out and has no sense of timing. Punchlines get drawn out way too far and she has no ability to visually do a joke. Everything has to be said in the script with her so we don't get any visual cues or visual gags outside of the occasional random use of a wacky face. Nothing paints this better than The Message. The way they wrote that episode made anyone including my kid niece guess that Lapis was the one sending that message and that the signal was video, not audio by the 2 minute mark and the rest of the episode was just waiting for them to figure it out already.
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>>83133529
But that's not Onion Trade.
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>>83140442
I don't get the hate for Onion Trade. I thought i was amusing.
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>>83133683
I don't think the point of the episode was that cross dressing is okay.
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>>83139877
An episode so dedicated to portraying a sitcom trope that it forces characters out of character and dramatically clips their wings.
vs
An episode about social awkwardness and family tension that everyone hates because it happens to end with Steven in a dress.

Yeah I think I know which one is more poorly written
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There are no good townie episodes in SU
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>>83138870
>Also Steven's Birthday was god awful. It was literally a rehash of Too Many Birthdays plus Connie, it was just lazy.
Nah it was completely different, literally the only similarity is "changing age on his birthday".
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>>83139679
I will agree that is pretty stiff and akward looking.
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>>83140529
Lars and the Cool Kids is easily top 10 of season 1
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>>83140553
That was a good one
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>>83140553
This.

Lars in general is such a better character than Sadie but we're supposed to like her more because Lars was mean to her in events we'll never see in their past
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>>83140529
>Not liking Joy Ride
The fuck is wrong with you.
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>>83140475
It's fine but it's easily worse than Sadie's Song.

Sadie's Song has at least two more jokes and a comprehensible message. Onion Trade is, what, "You almost crushed us with cars but it's okay because you miss your dad" or whatever?
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>>83140582

Woah woah, let's not get carried away, Lars is still the most punchable dick in the cast
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>>83140628
>>83140553

At this point the cool kids are easily the best aspect about beach city, they really nailed how a cool kid is, they aren't aren't a follower they're a leader, plus they make great interaction with steven's spontaneous personality vs their chill vibe
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>>83140529
There's a lot. They just need to involve magic and not be "the normal life adventures of Steven doing nothing". Joy Ride is one of my favorites.
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>>83139971
so it's a round of SS13?
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>>83140529

Is this some sort of bait?
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>>83140582
luckily he'll be redeemed soon enough with The New Lars, plus his backstory is way more sympathetic than Sadie's
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Legend of Korra - Remembrance
If we can even call this an episode.
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>>83140740
Mako's is so ugly compared to his cousin and bolin
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>>83134698
The song was the only good thing about the episode.
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>>83140740
I was actually ok with that episode. It was shitty to even have to do that episode in the first place and even the writing staff knew that. They had to do it because the network forced them to do it so they did it and just made a huge meta joke out of it. The writers being self aware of how shitty season 2 was made it worth it.

I'd much sooner pick an episode like The Spirit of Competition that actually made me hate the characters and had a negative impact on the whole show going forward.
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>>83140839
I didn't knew the staff were forced to do it. You make a good point.
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>>83134698
Lyrics were horrible. Who actually thinks that a pop song goes "look at me, I'm popular! Look at me!" What is this, black people music?
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Gravity falls became pretty mediocre towards the end but this takes the cake.
I mean at least SU human eps are inconsequential. This was supposed to be where everything came together, and nothing really happened.
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>>83140909
it gave me a "baby i'm a star" vibe
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>>83140665
Even so, Sadie is worse. She's a horrible whiny bitch who can't solve her own problems and acts out for no reason.
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>>83137482
I don't understand the hate on Roadside Attraction. It was one of the most fun episodes for me. Sure, Dipper gets shat on for no reason, but overall it was good.
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>>83138870
The Answer is really the worst, but Ruby and Sapphire got better in Hit The Diamond.
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>>83141010
Coming from a guy who will defend to death all the "filler" episodes in season 1 as really fun adventures, this was a really lame adventure. The thing that carries the show is genuinely nice character moments plus interesting magical threat. This one dropped the ball on the character moments so hard and made me hate characters right before the big finale, but also flopped on the magical threat element by just manufacturing the most ham fisted monster they could to fit the theme in the last act. It didn't feel like the typical B-movie horror trope monster built up to throughout the episode. Just "Woah! This woman was actually a spider!"

The only good to come from this episode was the short montage of them sabotaging the other tourist traps.
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>>83140703
Such an awful episode. When asked about ATLA's weakpoints this episode forces itself into my mind.
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>>83138974
fuck off onion is the best character flat out
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>>83140962
A shame how quickly it took a nosedive right at the finish line, especially after all that buildup and the first Weirdmageddon episodes. Then again, even the First Season's ending was probably its respective lowest point.
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>>83139262

jake sleep walks into a circus and goes undercover to save an enslaved animal from a greedy little shit.

I mean really? you don't get it?

also yes it was artsy fartsy, but in the best possible way. compare that side by side to Moynihan's idea of artsy and you get horrible shit like forming.
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>>83139865
Fixed that for you
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>>83133529
This is the episode that made me drop season 2 and the show forever.
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>>83141359
That episode was from the great early parts of season 2. How could you hate it? It tried to fix Mabel showing her in the wrong and having her give up something (even if they double back on that later in the season), had hilarity with Bipper, and was pretty all around funny.
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>>83137482
Dipper Vs. Manliness will always and forever be less good than Roadside Attraction. I say "less good" and not "worse" because there isn't a GF episode that is truly bad.
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>>83141406

Get Schwifty was worse, although that's right behind it. Get Schwifty had a lot of strange out of character moments, and B plot that didn't even chronologically align with the A plot. Only part I really laughed at was the initial Ice-T joke, everything else fell flat. At least IDCII gave us Stealy and the plumbus.

Also, can we all agree that the Octopus-Man short was the worst part of that episode? What the fuck was that?
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>>83141464
Jesus Christ, GF fans truly have no standards.
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>>83141464
>because there isn't a GF episode that is truly bad.
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>>83141464
Yeah ok.
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>>83141464
Eh, nah. There's bad episodes, and those 2 are some of them. Dipper Vs Manliness had some funny jokes at the beginning but my friday night cartoon friends who will laugh at anything were dead silent from like the 5 minute mark onwards. Those "3 stories in one" episodes are also up there as pretty bad. The only good short story from those 2 episodes was Grunkle Stan wins the football bowl
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>>83141406
How every single Rick and Morty attempt at "improv" manages to be so cringeworthy is beyond me...
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>>83140703
>fire emblem fates
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>>83141406
God this

It really shows that the writers lack someone close to them going ''you know, maybe this is a bad idea''
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>>83141582
I thought the talking heads themselves were funny.
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>>83140505
It may have not been the point of the episode. But you have to admit that was one of the messages being sent out.
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>>83140703
Posting worse episode.
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>>83141922
This episode was fun, anon. The Great Divide was surely the worst.
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>>83141922
>'let me spell out my character traits' the episode
a pretty rare opinion actually but im glad someone else has it
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>>83141304
I dunno, if you ignore Finn and his cuckoldry completely then it still had some pretty funny moments.

>Put your dukes down
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>>83140962
The finale was pretty good aside from the copout with Stan, but the way they went with Mabel's character was...very disappointing.
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>>83142129
I was kinda cringing at the mech fight, the idea that they wanted that to come off as badass. The real confrontation with Bill was pretty good though and I loved their final solution minus the cop out. Was a genuinely clever way to deal with Bill.
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>>83141304
Fuck this episode.
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What the fuck was the point of this episode?
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People complain about The Great Divide, but at least you can ignore that one.
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>>83141406
This is tied with the Purge episode.
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>>83141980
Fucking this.
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>>83142808
When that weird kid offers to take you on a magical adventure, you say no.
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>>83142808
To show how unhealthy Sadie and Lars' relationship is.
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>>83140740
That one is fine. It's not the Book 1 or 2 finale.
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>>83141582
I personally liked Get Schwifty and even with its flaws, I thought IDCII was worse.

Though the worst part of THAT was everyone shitting on Jerry for his suggestion that they go to the zoo. Octopus Man was pretty pointless, though.
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>>83133529

Nevar forget
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>>83142808
sadie is yandere for lars, lars gets stockholm syndrome, steven is the white knight rape apologist (inadvertantly?) helping sadie.
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>>83134456
to be honest as a kid, i hated almost every looney tunes and cartoons episodes that had anything to do with being musical.
but now that i look back at them, they're really good and i have of more appreciation for them.
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>>83142808
We are supposed to sympathize with women even when they are rapists.
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>>83140962
Why did Bill even put Mabel in a bubble anyways?

The way they kept building it up made it seem like this major part to whatever he was doing and he needed her specifically to be there, but then we don't even see him react to the bubble being destroyed and it's just never mentioned again. Was it supposed to be like a Venus Flytrap and lure other people into getting trapped there? Leverage over Ford in case he needed it? Because it seems like you could accomplish the same thing by making Mabel a gold statue and just keep her in the pyramid the way he did with Ford.
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>>83141850
IIRC the executives wanted it because the first one was popular, so they basically were forced to make it.
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>>83141288
>Forming
>Bad

kys friendo
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>>83141152
To add to this, the moral of Roadside Attraction came across as extremely clunky and poorly executed, and seemed to rely on the every character acting like a complete dumbass to force the point across rather than have that conclusion come naturally. It would be one thing if Stan was only pretending to be interested in the spider lady so he could better sabotage the mummy attractions, or if there was more at stake in Dipper's encounters than just emails, but as it is it kinda comes across like they got comeuppance for not doing things exactly how the writers think people should flirt.

Though that being said, I think also part of the issue is that Roadside Attraction was the episode came right before the big finale and didn't really give us anything else to chew on like a expand on characters who haven't had much development (Ford, etc) or any sense of spectacle or creativity outside maybe the spider design. If it Roadside Attraction had been switched out with any of the other bland GF episodes, it probably would've gotten the same reaction.
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>>83137482
>To be fair to this episode, it got shown out of order.
source? I thought alex explicitly said that it was one final breather before the finale
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>>83140703
>So bad they made a joke about it later on in the series.
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>>83140529
you want me to get this out again
>episodes that focus on townies

>Joe and Jeff
none

>Raven and Paul
Frybo (Dad and Peedee fryman)
Joking Victim (Lars and Sadie)
Keep Beach City Weird (Ronaldo)
Island Adventure (Lars and Sadie)
Horror Club (Lars and Sadie AND Ronaldo)
Sadie's Song (Sadie)

>Lamar and Matt
Lars and the Cool Kids (Lars and the Cool Kids)

>Lamar solo
Onion Trade (Onion)
Beach Party (the Pizzas)

>Lamar and Hellen
Shirt Club (Buck Dewey, Bill to a lesser extent)
Love Letters (Jamie)
Rising Tides/Crashing Skies (Ronaldo, other citizens to a lesser extent)

>Hillary and Katie
Political Power (Mayor Dewey)
Joy Ride (The Cool Kids)

>Lamar and Katie
Onion Friend (Onion and Vidalia)

>Hillary and Lauren
Historical Friction (Jamie)

>episodes that don't focus on townies that nonetheless have them be at least semi-prominent

>Early pre-regular board teams episodes)
Laser Light Cannon (Fryman, various other citizens get early cameos)
Cat Fingers (Dewey, Lars and Sadie, Frymans)

>Joe and Jeff
Gem Glow (lars and sadie)
Rose's Room (cloud version of the town)
Ocean Gem (town in general, especially dewey)
Lion 3: Direct to Video (Sadie)
Story for Steven (Marty and Vidalia)

>Raven and Paul
Tiger Millionaire (Mr. Smiley, Lars and Sadie)
So Many Birthdays (Lars and Sadie)
Coach Steven (Lars and Sadie)
Mirror Gem (town in general, especially lars and sadie and dewey)
The Return (town in general)
Full Disclosure (Ronaldo)
Steven Floats (Paul solo) (sadie, other townies)

>Kat and Aleth
Bubble Buddies (Lars and Sadie, Onion)

>Lamar and Aleth
Arcade Mania (Onion, Mr Smiley)
Steven's Lion (Ronaldo, Kiki, Onion)

>Lamar and Hellen
Watermelon Steven (Ronaldo, Sadie, Onion)
Future Vision (Lars and Sadie)

>Hilary and Katie
Alone Together (Lars and Sadie, the Cool Kids)
Maximum Capacity (Peedee)
Beach Shorts (extended intro, Jamie)
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>>83142808
Lars has some legitimate grievances
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>>83140962
>>83141212
Honestly GF would've been better if it was 3 13 episode seasons: less episodes spent before gideon rises, more episodes spent with ford, alex wouldn't have gotten burnt out, just better pacing overall
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>>83141911
Steven was nude on stage the previous year's beachapalooza.
I don't think him doing something there means it's okay
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>>83145957
>Steven was nude on stage the previous year's beachapalooza.
*2 years ago, the previous year was Steven and the Stevens
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>>83133683
The crossdressing wasn't even the worst part of that episode.
The worst part was Sadie acting like a passive aggressive shit to her mom instead of talking to her and the writers expecting us to take her side.
Remember kids it's everyone else's fault for not being able to read your fucking mind when you never speak up.
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>>83145849
>alex wouldn't have gotten burnt out
It might've also helped if he hadn't been the co-writer for every episode and maybe handed the reigns over to the others more when it came to the less plot-heavy episodes every once in awhile.

I can't tell if he insisted on doing that because he was just that anal about how the show would play out or because he didn't trust the other writers for some reason, but I wouldn't be surprised if that was a large part of why he got so burnt out.
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>>83146114

This for the most part. If Sadie had told her mom about it but her mom was still insistent, the whole tone of the episode would have been completely different. It could even partially justify what Steven did at the end, because I doubt he'd have been as into trying to get Sadie to perform if he knew from the get-go that she didn't want to.
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>>83140703
That was the first episode I saw. Really undersold the show for me.
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>>83140740
It was about as good as a recap episode can be.
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>>83144677
I've learned not to bother trying to comprehend questions like that sincemWeirdmageddon is full of so many plotholes that it's nearly impossible to wrap your head around them all.
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>>83146190
likely, as there are only two episodes that don't credit Hirsch as a writer: Dipper vs Manliness (written by Tim McKeon), and the Deep End (written by Nancy Cohen)
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>>83144677
>And it's just never mentioned again
That seems to be a reoccuring motiff in the finale.

What was the point of having Mabel hand the rift over to Bill when it's never mentioned again? You'd think Bill would've used that fact to his advantage by causing strife with the twins once he mentioned her endless summer deal she made with him.

Same thing with the rift itself. In the first part Time Baby brings up that the destroyed rift will continue to grow and eventually erase all of existence and that's never addressed again.Why bother revealing that all of reality is in danger of being destroyed and raising the stakes as high as possible when you're aren't even to acknowledge this crucial plot point?
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>>83147252
>>83147252
>What was the point of having Mabel hand the rift over to Bill when it's never mentioned again?

Yeah, it seems like there was no point in having that part since it didn't really add much to that episode other to be a cheap "reveal" that you saw coming the second Blendin showed up. I was kind of hoping by the second part that Mabel would be the one to confess to Dipper that she handed over the rift, citing Stan and Ford's story as being the source of her fears for the future as the lead in for wrapping up her character arc, but I guess not.

They might as well have had the rift break open in her backpack like Dipper assumed for how little it actually added to the story.
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>>83140529
This isn't true, but I will assert that there definitely has never been a good Connie episode
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>>83142030
It was poorly paced, poorly written, and poorly animated
I thought web weirdos was terrible, but then I saw two fire elementals wrestle for 5 minutes and found out that CB just taught a dog to fly
I researched the reason this happened and I found out it's because FUCK YOU
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>>83148103
Does Mabel even feel the least bit guilty that put the very fabric of existence in peril?
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>>83142960
I think it's made more sense than any other potential ending
I mean, imagine if it was just nerves and not blocked chi and all he had to do was meditate
The scene was put there to build up hype
The character who is constantly wrecking shit without actually controlling it well gets his shit wrecked and then at the last minute he takes all the lessons he's learned and applies them to the weapon he gets back at the last minute and starts wrecking shit again

It's basic shounen plotwork
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>>83148738
Making sense isn't the problem. It's broken from a story standpoint because it completely undermines Aang's journey and character development.
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>>83133529

Facts

Why do certain episodes draw Sadie the same height as Steven it bothers me so fucking much
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>>83137482

This was annoying, Dipper made no commitments to anyone in that, everyone just being controlling bitches goddamn

Didn't even suggest romance to anyone. Just "Hey, we've had fun, let's exchange info"

But apparently once you've spoken to a girl you are 100% commited to her for life
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>>83139575

When do we get Hero and Cherry in the show
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>>83148823
Only if you don't see him as a Shonen character
Only if you insist that having to make a choice (or not make a choice) isn't still just character development
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>>83149063
Given how IanJ dropped that comic like a sack of shit (and gave his fans the finger while doing so) I seriously doubt ever.
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>>83140703
How exactly was this episode bad? I haven't seen it for a while but when I was younger it really entertained me
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So the moral of this epside was sopposed to be something like "Scooby-Doo can solve mysteries and shit". But it turned into a Hanna-Barbera circlejerk.
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>>83150289
At least we got to hear Tom Kenny's Snagglepuss impression

Really jealous of that guy's talent
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Hi there.
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>>83141288
please tell me the name of the comic i've been trying to retrace it for ages
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>>83141922
It was basically an anime SOL filler/beach episode thrown in the end of an adventure story. I liked it, I thought it was fun. But I can see why people hate it. Great Divide was still worse.
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>>83141406
Wait really?
This is one of my favorite
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>>83138870
Too Many Birthdays didn't directly address that Steven doesn't naturally age.
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>>83140442
Onion Trade sets up a very important pay off in Onion Friend, Steven gave Ranger Guy to Onion because he misses his dad while he's at sea, and in Onion Friend Onion gives Explorer Gal to Steven, presumably because he doesn't have a mom.
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>>83140536
It wasn't even his birthday in So Many Birthdays.
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>>83154224
>Steven misses his mom!
How the fuck was that an important pay-off? Most of the series is about how ____ misses Rose.
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>>83139679
WHAT
WAS
THE
PURPOSE
OF
THIS
CLIP
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>>83139679
hellen jo actually wrote that song

>>83140431
I wonder how much of the bad writing was Jo and how much was Lamar. plus, some of that plot stuff for the message would already be in the outline (and unlike AT you don't have normal boarders invovled in SU outlines)
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>>83134456
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>>83143667
>Not liking Rhapsody Rabbit as a kid
>Not liking Rabbit of Seville as a kid
>Not liking The Cat Concerto as a kid

What the fuck was wrong with you. Those were literally my favorites.
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>>83137482
>mabel constantly hits on numerous men across throughout the entire show
>b-but it's not okay for men to do it!

Thanks, disney.
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>>83155291
I feel like it's way more on the Hellen side. Lamar is the new weak link of the show's team, but his shit is no where near as bad as Hellens. A random bad shot with too big of hair does not equate to the old painfully flat boarding we used to get when Hellen was around.
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>>83155785
Forgot pic
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>>83149063
That's OK KO now, not SU
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>>83142808
That Sadie is literally nuts.

I honestly stopped liking her after this episode.

Like what kind of fucking human being does that to someone, let alone someone and a child.
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>>83139865
The only bad thing about this episode is that Finn (and the writers) completely forgot the lesson he learned in All The Little People about manipulating people. I have no idea why they didn't create a better conflict for Finn to ruin it with Flame Princess.
That aside it's fine, Finn doesn't act too terrible in it.

Too Old and Red Throne are both miles worse just because they make Finn act the shittiest he's ever been for no reason.
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>>83149792
It's literally filler.

No character development
No plot advancement

It's really not that bad, it just really goes to show the overall quality of ATLA if something that's considered "decent" is by far the worst episode of the series.
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>>83146728
Besides Ember Island Players, that is.
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>>83155941
I'm not talking about the art at all, of course Lamar's art is much less off model than hellen's (though it's still pretty stiff): I'm talking about the writing
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>>83138378
>Love Letters
>Bad

are you fucking kidding me
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>>83157370
Yeah, Same Old World was a good episode. I can't say that about Hellen episodes.
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>>83142129
The finale really made me hate Stan. The entire world is ending, and you have a chance to save it just by holding hands with everybody. But nope. You're too "prideful" to hold hands with your brother so you'd rather let everyone die. It was funny or cute or anything, it was just an annoying way of expanding the episode.

The fact that he sacrifices himself later on and I'm supposed to feel sorry for him after all the shit he did. Sorry Alex but that's a no go.
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>>83141922
I liked it cause it gave us a rare look at what the villains do on their time off. Plus it had some funny moments.

But yeah, it was basically filler and everything said on the island we already knew (how Zuko and Mai feel about themselves) or would find out in more important episodes (Azula's slowly creeping insanity). You can skip it and not have the plot affected in anyway, but really why would you?
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>>83141406
>>83141789

I thought the first Interdimensional Cable episode was good. I think with II they were just trying wayyyyyyyyy to hard
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>>83149580
If he doesn't have to make a choice then he's a shit protagonist with no agency in his own story. His flaw at the beginning has been running away from his problems, and that's exactly what he keeps doing in the finale until his problems magically go away.
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>>83133529
I don't really hate that ePiso de to be honest. Yeah it's got a few problems but there are worse episodes (literally every Ronaldo episode) but the biggest problem people seem to have with it is Steven cross dressing at the end which was non sexual and non habitual and basically what he deserved for pressuring Sadie and him taking it in stride
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Suddenly, filler.
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>>83133529
To this day, this is the only episode I haven't and will never see.
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>>83133529
One simple human fusion would of solved this episode.
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>>83133529
sadie looks like a vegetable.
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>>83156195
>You kissed me back!
THAT MAKES IT OK GUYS HUEHUEHUE

Holy shit fuck this episode and fuck Sadie. What? She gets mad because Lars want to fuck the Pizza girl? Are we supposed to feel angry with Lars because he doesnt like a chubby small turd?

Sadie IS fucking nuts and crazy fuck this episode and fuck her and Sugar for wanting us to sympathise with this fucking yandere psycho.
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>>83146114
Sounds like classic Sadie to me. Remember when she tried to poison Lars instead of confronting him about his lying like a normal person. Or that time she kept Lars and Steven prisoners on a desert island with her? Sadie is the worst character, so it comes as no surprise when she's the worst part of the worst episode.
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>All these Sadie haters
>Implying you wouldn't tap that

I feel like Sadie is the type of fat chick insecure enough to let you do whatever you wanted to do to her in bed, and not complain about it later, maybe just only cry quietly.
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>>83159286
>Filler
Alan Scott was going to be from that earth if the show kept going
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>>83142808
Female body hair awareness
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>>83156061
The music wasn't in his soul. I'd bet money he was also an angry little shit who took the wind out of everyone's sails given half the chance.
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>>83159656
I don't hate her because she's fat. I hate her because she's a passive-aggressive psycho and she never has to answer for any of the terrible things she does. Lars is an asshole, but he always ends up paying for it. Often in hilariously overblown ways that nearly kill him. But it feels like the writers want us to side with Sadie. And you know what? No. I won't.
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>>83159656

>>83159842
literally this. She's bat shit insane. She is a bad character. There was no lesson in that episode, no moral to tell girls not to go to those lengths to get alone with a crush.
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>>83159842
>>83160079

>she's a passive-aggressive psycho
>She's bat shit insane

That's what makes my dick so hard, though
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>>83133529
Is that Sadie? Why does she look like she has downs?

As in, since day 1
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>>83160151
never stick it in the crazy tho anon.


But I get it, she's a short stack blonde qt, I'd hit it too if she was a good person and not a jealous sensitive mess in almost every episode.
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>>83160236
both boarders (raven molisee and paul villeco) have a habit of giving characters goofy expressions
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>>83160151
I don't share your fetishes but I respect that. Still, she'd probably end up cutting off your dick and keeping it in a box. And at the end of the episode, you'd have to apologize to her for it.
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>>83160381
Is that a caricature of Kevin Michael Richardson?
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>>83162401
Sinbad
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>>83133529
I liked it until the end. I thought together breakfast was worse.
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>>83139875
I loved the idea that lemon grab was becoming a fascist dictator though. Wish they had done more with that.
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>>83140854
Basically the network cut their funding by one episode's worth, but still expected them to deliver the full amount of episodes. So their only option was to do a recap.
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The Great Divide is easily the worst in season 1. For season 2, I really think Zuko Alone is overrated, and easily the weakest link there. And, no surprise, The Painted Lady is my least favorite episode in Book 3
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>>83143388
I thought it was pretty funny
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>>83133529
Too Far episode on Steven Universe, Amethyst was clearly mocking Peridot's lack of social awareness to the point where Peridot made fun of Garnet and Steven, she called Steven a "hybrid abomination" (Steven was clearly offended by those comments) and Amethyst was just laughing, until Peridot came at Amethyst insecurities and how she should be the leader, and then suddenly Peridot was in the wrong for hurting Amethyst feelings.
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>>83133529
that kinda reminded me of those teen titans episodes where you know they wrote something for cyborg but then he's not allowed to say 'black'
like sadie here isnt allowed to say she's just embarrassed about being a midget and doesnt wanna be on stage
>>83133683
i still miss the 90s when crossdressing was just a joke and the people who did it were explicitly straight and had wives who were cool with it
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>>83151839
that one was awesome. finn got like six kisses
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>>83165055
>that time Cyborg said that he too had been the victim of prejudice
>because he's half-robot
I laughed so fucking hard.
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>>83139891
ur mom XDD
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>>83143388
>implying he didn't want those lumps

>implying i don't want those lumps
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>>83155785
>The Cat Concerto
>Looney Tunes
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>>83138271
>>83139865
>>83139875
>>83141304
>>83151839
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>>83161385
This is why having a vagina is better because you can't cut off a vagina right?
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>>83140505
It's called subliminal messaging.

Just like every show on CN is so nonchalant about gay couples. See: Clarence, Gumball, Steven Universe, ect.
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>>83167135
But people really are nonchalant about gay couples and gays exist in real life.
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>>83167135
>Gumball
What?
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>>83169285
The flower is pretty much canon gay.
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>>83167135
Isn't nonchalant the right way to do it? The reason SJWs are so annoying is because they're attention whores. As long as they don't go out of their way to draw a lot of attention to these characters being gay or make entire plots about the hardships they have to endure from those mean CIS white males, then I don't see the problem.
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>>83169398

Oh yeah, it's pretty obvious. Like how when any girl with a hint of masculinity, it means they're a dyke, and slightly effeminate man is a prancing la-la homo man
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>>83169778
He was at Molly's girl-only treehouse party in that episode in which Masami pretended that Darwin was her boyfriend. And when the girls started lying about having boyfriends, he did too. I don't know if maybe the writers hadn't decided that he was a boy back then, but that still happened. He's the gay friend.
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>>83169235
Not in children's television. They're clearly trying to desentisize the new generation.
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>>83170065
So? Is there anything wrong with that?
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>>83141464
I don't understand the hate of dipper vs manliness, i thought it was good. RA was downright terrible for GF standard
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>>83170378
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>>83142393
Am i the only one who thought the rock version of GF theme played in the background was a bad decision? I know it was supposed to be "cool" but it really put me off
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>>83148994
>>83155805
Actually a pretty good explanation of romance in Western society.
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>>83166075
See that episode over there, that's your favorite episode!
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>>83133529
I've seen all 100 episodes of Bob's Burgers and the couch episode was the only one I hated

Everyone acts irrational as fuck in that episode, like way more than usual. Linda acts especially retarded. Then they throw out a $400 couch for no logical reason

But It's the only shit episode in the entire show though
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>>83170378
I dunno about it being THE WORST, but it is definitely ONE of the worst.
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>>83170378

I am the only one to this day who enjoyed that episode
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>>83141922
>Mai bikini
>worst episode

nigga pls
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>>83171957
I enjoyed it. Even though I agree that they should have probably tried talking to her first instead of skipping straight to staging that whole thing just to teach her a lesson, it was still a fun episode. There's plenty of episodes with bad morals and there's also plenty of episodes that aren't fun.
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>>83171709
Kill yourself you easily provoked underaged.
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>>83172139

Hoooble woooople you fucking Hoolagook.
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>>83172001
>Swimsuit that's so conservative it makes normal summer citywear look scandalous
>"SO HOT!"
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>>83166075
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EThVQSmBE-8
the animatic was better
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>>83174200
wow this is significantly better
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>>83140703
I actually really like this episode. It was a great example of the Avatar doing his fucking job.
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>>83170162
Not with me. Just saying.

Don't particularly like fags, but this planet is big enough to share.
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>>83171294
Boi oi oi oi oi oing!
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Holy shit I just got the best idea
>After the whole ordeal with the theatrics Steven and barb understand what was going on
>"It's okay, Sadie. If you don't want to go onstage, your mom and I will preform for you."
>Barb gets dress in the dress instead of Steven creating milf fan art for a lifetime
>/sug/ doesn't lose it's shit over this episode
Why the fuck didn't Steven and barb fuse when they were dancing
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>>83133529
But OP, that's not literally any Ronaldo episode
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>>83143016
I hope you're not implying that the episode you posted is the worst episode of Futurama, because if that's the case you should probably lobotomize yourself
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>>83175203
It was a reaction to what he was replying to, you dumbass. Now, what IS the worst episode of Futurama? The newer seasons gave us some pretty amazingly bad crap.
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>>83133529
help me find one
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>>83175417
All of them, that show wasn't funny
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>>83141464
>Dipper Vs. Manliness less good than Roadside Attraction
this is bait, yes?
I mean it's a good litmus test for the taste of everyone else in this thread; everyone reacting negatively towards you shows that most people in this thread at least have good taste.
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>>83175434
Not sure if bait or not but could you provide me some insight as to why you don't appreciate the humor of that show?
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>>83133529
I will say at least one funny thing from this episode that nobody ever appreciates is this scene with the stuffed animals. By drawing the bear as it's own object and not a part of the background it makes it seem like Steven's going to pick it up, but then he doesn't take any of them. It's like a subtle fourth wall break without actually doing anything to break the fourth wall, I think it's cleaver.
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>>83149580
>Only if you don't see him as a Shonen character
Well, we're discussing this on /co/, a board for comics on cartoons. This, and many people claiming ATLA is not an anime, has lead me to conclude ATLA is in fact a cartoon. If Avatar was an anime, I would consider it a cut above and would award it a great many commendations for being a shining example on how to do a lot of things right seeing as most anime is pure shit. Viewing Avatar as a cartoon, I can't handwave its flaws or its shitty third season (and the similarly shitty series finale). If you want to see him as a Shonen character and explain the plot through that lends, feel free to do so on /a/, but you can't bill me for the full package and only give me a handjob.
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>>83141406
I still liked the set-up for this. The pay-off was no where near as good as the first. But that's kind of the joke to begin with, so I can't really hate this episode.
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>>83174778
Tied to steven's emotions. I guess it has to be a deeper connection than most. Physical contact is a must that's for certain, plus the two have to be completely in synch on an emotional and mental level.

Steven's just going with the flow, thinking it's all fun and games.

Barb is just doing what she's doing because she wants to be supportive of Sadie in any endeavor, but as she points out later, it's overblown.
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>>83174778
>>83175872
Steven fuses with Connie because they're in luuuv, unless Barb is some sort of creepy old lady pedo that fusion isn't going to work.
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>>83176072
yeah, pretty much. It's a gem concept being applied to humans and vice-versa. It's hard to work out.

But Garnet Is made of lo-o-o-o-o-ove
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>>83175260
That's a good question. The best of the newer seasons is The Late Philip J. Fry, without a doubt. The Six Million Dollar Mon was pretty horrible, but Attack of the Killer App was really bad as well.
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>>83175692
ATLA would be pretty run of the mill by anime standards, even a bit dull.
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>>83133529
What was the point of this thread? It wasn't funny and it made no sense. And it was boring as hell.
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>>83140529
>he doesn't like Political Power
Mayor Dewey a best
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>>83178977
Discussion?
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>>83176666
The only right answer for "worst post-cancellation Futurama episode" is the one with Leonardo Da Vinci. One of the few cases where "it was too mean-spirited" is a legitimate complaint.
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>>83141074
>being this wrong
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>>83177414
This.
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