I think we can all agree that AS2 had the best live-action Spider-Man costume to date.
Why do we hate the MCU Spidey costume again?
>>83076032
ASM2 was a shit movie but it really did have the best looking costume. I still have a soft spot for the Raimi one, though.
>>83076133
"Looks" good but it's too smooth if that makes sense.
>>83076133
muh cgi
>>83076133
Because it looks like shit
>>83076032
Are you joking? it looks like Toby Macguire's Spider-Man got anorexia.
MCU costume is far superior.
>>83076032
I don't care.
This shit don't add nothing to my life.
>>83076133
They most likely update it for Homecoming
>>83076133
No hate. But at least Garfield wasn't CGI'd and the eyes are beautifully large.
>>83076218
It was only CGI during the fight scenes, just like every other Spider-Man since Toby Mcguire. In all the close-ups, including >>83076133
you can tell it's a real costume.
>>83076133
>we
I don't hate it, I just don't like it as much as the other suits. There's too much unnecessary detail and the black lines indicating he has muscles feels like a bit of a cop-out.
Besides, having Stark build Spidey's suit instead of Parker doing it himself is dumb, especially since they're keeping it for the standalone film.
Now, if they do something like this early on...
>>83076271
GTFO, 99% of ASM2s fighting scenes were CGI spiderman.
>>83076305
Except the eyes. Those were two small and cg'd
>>83076336
I'm mostly talking the costume on its own
>>83076209
>too smooth
Holy shit, people have actual Stockholm Syndrome for the Sony raised webbing?
MCU is nigh perfection. I dont even mind the black bands. Though I miss the web pits, its still 10/10 Ditko
>>83076032
Personal taste, between this an Raimi's i still prefer the latter. But it was an improvement over ASM1, for sure
>>83076332
>bitches about too much detail
>likes this absolute shit wanna be indie punk vomit outfit
fuck off retard
>>83076656
True. And apparently Homecoming will give him wings as well.
http://comicbook.com/marvel/2016/05/20/spider-man-homecoming-villain-and-costume-rumors/
>>83076332
>Stark making the suit
If Stark made the web shooters, then we would have a fucking problem. But honestly how would Peter make his costume anyway? Hes a science kid, not a tailor.
>>83076799
Y E S
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And their addition will make perfect sense with the aerial fights
>>83076332
>Now, if they do something like this early on...
They did?
>>83076784
Would you prefer something like this, then?
>>83076861
From the first issue to the time he lost to the Jackal, it's implied Peter is terrible at sewing but still tries to make the suit anyways. I guess it's just a plot-hole that never got resolved.
>>83076656
Yeah the black band's don't bother me, I really thought they would, but they don't.
I didn't even care about the CGI, the suit has a good design.
Spidey's been my favorite for 20 years now and I'm fine with it
>>83076861
>>83076332
It's shown that peter already made webshooters and the web, I'm thinking that Stark just used Peter's design in making the new ones with the added light
>>83077097
Yeah I know that, I was just saying if Stark was the one who invented it we would have an issue. All he did in this movie was give Peter an upgrade, which is fine. Peter is a smart kid but he has limited resources. The anon getting upset about Stark making a better suit is a tad trivial
>>83076133
We don't - /co/ isn't one person.
I don't hate it - I find it to be quite nice.
>>83077466
>/co/ isn't one person
What, yes I am
>>83076032
I really didnt like the MCU costume pre-release, but seeing it in motion the eyes work very well.
Honestly the only thing I'd change is swapping the blue for black, but at this point the blue is definitive enough that I really doubt we'd get black in live action.That and like half of the MCU heroes are red and black already
>>83076032
sorry OP
but the MCU spiderman costume is so good that it actually makes every other spidey movie costume look like a guy in pajamas
(or just a cosplayer)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IriUUPOi9QY
>>83076407
Maybe it's not the raised webbing, but it looks better to see some light bouncing off the webbing material and casting depth; makes the console stand out a bit more. Maybe they could achieve this without the webbing being raised, we'll just have to wait and see.
I will never understand the love for the 3D web print on the suit. MCU has a fantastic yet subtle pattern that doesnt make it look weird. Also MCU has the fat spider on the back so its already better than the previous iterations
>>83076032
It looked way too cheap for my liking. It fit like shit and the red had this burgundy shade that was visible in certain scenes with specific shading. It's still better than all those before it. The way I see it:
MCU>>ASM2>ASM>>>>>>SM>>>>>>Symbiote SM
>>83077666
God it makes be fucking giddy when seeing Spidey swinging off Warmachine.
Can we all agree that ASM had the worst costume and that the black suit in SM3 desperately needed a white logo?
>>83076406
The CW isn't CGI, only in fight scenes like ine the previous movies.
>>83077673
Is this right?
>>83077960
Personally I wouldn't put Superior that low, but I have a soft spot for that costume.
>>83077923
I think the black suit was fine for what it tried to do, it wasn't pitch black enough to make a big white logo to break the colour necessary
I don't really like the CW suit. I really like that they added a way for his eyes to change shape, but when you look at a close up shot of them (>>83076133) it looks too busy and is a bit too distracting. The unnecessary black lines running across the suit are another thing which kind of bother me, and I don't like that the entire suit is CGI. The other movie suits have creases as you'd expect, whereas the CW suit is skin tight and it's very clear that it's not real when they cut to Tom Holland wearing the suit at the end of the airport fight.
I'm also a little bummed that the webbing across his suit is flat and doesn't stick out like the Raimi or ASM suits, but I'll admit that's just a nitpick. Although if those web armpit rumors are true I'll have an autistic fit.
I think we can all agree that ASM1 had by far the worst Spidey costume.
>>83078154
>saying the CW suit is busy when its more subtle than the previous incarnations
>hating the web pits
I'm loving the yes on the MCU suit. The black bards aren't as noticeable in motion and I was afraid they would be.
>>83077790
3D Web print makes it look more home made, but I do think it's also a little busy.
>>83077960
>Raimi black
>Anything but last
Didn't even read the rest.
>>83078154
>autistic fit.
You already are, you shouldn't be put in charge of anything.
But yeah ASM1 is garbage
>>83077831
>fat spider on the back
This is literally enough to beat all of the other costumes.
>>83078444
>Raimi Black
>Worse than Amazing 1
>>83078350
>3D Web print makes it look more home made, but I do think it's also a little busy.
More home made? You're joking right? that's like the opposite, ideally sticthing/embrodering the webs with black thread would the most homemade. The 3D raised webbing looks the farthest from home made possible
>>83078154
You say it looks to busy, but want raised webbing? Dude what?
>>83078513
>boys the Black Suit is an absolute classic so we need to do our best to recreate it
>so just paint the one from the previous films all not-even-black
>and crook the spider legs a bit
It was an insult. ASM suit actually felt fitting for a broke teenager's first go at a suit.
>spandex
>running shoes
>cheap glasses for the eye pieces
It looked realistic in the very least.
>>83077869
me too anon
me too
>cgi
>costume
Next youll say Iron Man has a good "costume"
>>83078681
Realistic is the bane of Spider-Man's movie career. You do realize that we are talking about a kid genius who puts on a costume and fights crime as a human spider, right? And he fights aliens, demons, and immortal gods?
Not everything has to be realistic or scientifically accurate just in case some dipshit doesn't know how to suspend their disbelief by anything less than an old string. In my opinion, having all the villains come from Oscorp and be "genetic mutations" was the reason the Amazing movies were so bad in the first place - they didn't capture the off-beat and colorful ambiance the Spider-Man comics are famous for.
Regardless, you seriously think Raimi's Black Suit is an insult, but support the clusterfuck of cliches Amazing 1's suit possesses?
>>83077012
>>83076332
Both of these are complete shit god damn.
>>83079016
Where's your suit design anon
>>83078935
What are you even talking about anon. I can't tackle all the shit you just said so I'd like you to elaborate on this bit
>the clusterfuck of cliches Amazing 1's suit possesses
>>83078935
>You do realize that we are talking about a kid genius who puts on a costume and fights crime as a human spider, right? >And he fights aliens, demons, and immortal gods?
And none of that requires that it LOOK like retarded silly campy bullshit.
The ASM1 outfit is fucking superb & badass.
Shove your addiction to childishness up your ass.
>>83077518
Yeah, but I'm kinda schizophrenic
>>83079041
> I don't agree with your opinion, so I'm just gonna tell you that you can't critique art just because you haven't drawn anything in your life as far as I know
>>83079190
I said it plain and simple: Spider-Man should not be "realistic", and neither should his suits.
As for his Amazing 1's suit, the spandex, running shoe soles, and sunglasses lenses are so tacky and unoriginal I mistook them for some sort of design cliche. Sorry if that didn't make sense before.
>>83079261
Holy hell are we actually going to start praising the ASM1 Spider outfit in this thread now? Im starting to believe the contrarian meme now. The suit texture was shit, the lack of belt was weird, and while the sneakers make sense it clashes with the rest of the design
>>83079293
I still haven't heard any reasons why they aren't at the very least decent.
>>83079261
>And none of that requires that it LOOK like retarded silly campy bullshit.
>What is contrast?
>The ASM1 outfit is fucking superb & badass.
That's just your opinion, and I respect that, even if it's wrong.
>Shove your addiction to childishness up your ass.
How about you shove your hyper-realistic boner up DC's decrepit orifices, you fun-hating prick.
>>83079416
You must've missed the last couple of years where everyone suddenly decided the Raimi movies were never good and that there was nothing wrong with ASM. I envy you
>>83079586
This never happened and you know it
>>83079323
His suits should be, though. His character is built around the idea that he's a smart, poor, overally average kid. A kid who in that particular point in his life was seriously piss fucking poor, didn't even have his pitiful job as a freelance photographer who gets paid shit and is living with his aunt who can't even pay the bills. In this scenario the suit maybe looked even too good. Holland's shitsuit and dumpster diving emphasises even more on this and does a better job.
>>83079416
>we
>contrarian
Let me guess, you lurk these threads and establish an opinion based on that of the majority, then post shit like that so you can fit in with the crowd?
>>83077666
This.
I've been a HUGE fan of Spider-Man for years, and aside from his high pitched voice in the new Civil War movie, I think they pretty much nailed him, spot on in this one.
I would have LIKED it if he had made his own costume by hand, but honestly, I like the fact that Stark made this version of the suit for him. I mean, he kind of did something similar in the comic books anyways, so why raise such a tizzy over it? And I freaking LOVE the new eyes. It finally answers the age old question of "how the hell does Spider-Man squint in his costume for us to see?"
Good stuff overall. I give this interpretation a solid A-
Very well done.
>>83079700
Did you even read my post? How the hell am I contrarian if my opinion remained the same and I pointed out the flip flop bullshit? The ASM1 suit always sucked, and learn to read
>>83079700
>Admitting that the majority dislikes the ASM suit
>Still thinks that he's in the right by thinking otherwise
I think the only reason I might have liked Peter designing the costume himself better would be that the "eyes being like camera shutters" thing would have been a nice tie-in to his photography hobby. That's kind of a small nitpick though, otherwise I'm pretty fine with it.
>>83079683
You've never seen people complaining that they were too cheesy? That small changes like the organic web and the lesser number of quips ruined everything? That MJ was ugly and stupid, Peter was a whiney idiot, Goblin was a Power Ranger villain, that the movies in general were "dated" even outside the special effects...? I'm telling you anon, these people exist. Unless we want to assume they were all baiting. It's a chance, i guess
>>83079838
>opinions are right or wrong
>if the majority says that Y is X then it's X
Boy I actually forgot where I am.
>>83080010
There are indeed people who make these complaints, but for all intents and purposes they do not reflect the opinions of everyone else.
Organic webbing is a non-problem; the mechanical web-shooters were purposefully written as nothing but tension-generators, and having them or not having them doesn't make much of a difference in the long run.
As for all the other complaints, you have to remember that all superhero films at that time were just as cheesy. Remember X2? Hulk? The original Daredevil? Spider-Man pulled it off better than the rest of them, even if it isn't saying much.
>>83080171
But web shooters are far superior to organic webbing.
>>83080209
They are, but they make little difference other than a sprinkle of extra tension. It's not an issue people should be bitching over.
Ah, who am I kidding, we bitch over everything.
>>83076032
I'll wait to HD as fuck CW so I can full appreciate spidey's costume in there, but for now ASM2.
>>83077097
Yeah, in his room he uses a bulkier webshooter. Then he went with Tony to his lab and they definitely fashioned new ones. The suit itself he probably had already had Friday design like he made Jarvis design his with a couple of inputs.
>>83077637
The suit has that weird property where every still shot makes his eyes look like the 60s show, but they actually feel great when moving. The Raimi/Webb ones kind of suck in comparison, like he was stuck in a gimp suit or something. Didn't help that they were 30-year old men inside.
>>83080298
Heh, in SM2 he still 'ran out' of web, despite being organic.
>>83076209
I think that TASM2 looks too loose around him. Like he's sick or something.
>>83076989
>>83076751
>Spidey and Vulture are fighting in NY.
>Spidey is overwhelming Vulture
>Vulture grabs him and takes to the sky above some open Field/airport
>Spidey manages to break free of him
>Spidey is falling towards the ground fast with no buildings to swing from
>Spidey is creative and puts his ands on his pits and fires the web shooters
>As he opens his arms, the web fluid sticks to the side of his torso and he has a rather dense pair of flying squirrel wings stretching like cheese pizza
>This helps him direct his fall into the city and swing back at high velocity to kick Vulture in the dick.
>>83079416
>The suit texture was shit
If your a bare minimum simplicity fag.
>What is contrast?
Irrelevant.
I want to see badassery on the screen, not cringe inducing camp.
>you fun-hating prick...
>Spiderman can't be fun if he is badass looking...
>and that there was nothing wrong with ASM.
I haven't seen ether ASM, I am praising the suit ONLY.
>>83080010
>That MJ was ugly and stupid, Peter was a whiney idiot
This is relatively true tho.
Ugly is a bit too strong, but she is plain as fuck.
MJ in the comics Is a literal Supermodel and moviestar. She is suppose to be breathtaking.
>>83080171
>but for all intents and purposes they do not reflect the opinions of everyone else.
Oh, that was the issue? Well, yeah, i was exaggerating for hyperbole
>>83080743
Who the fuck are you quoting in half that post? Because the texture thing was the only part that was mine. Better yet, how the fuck can you give a fair critique if you've never even seen the damn movie? Close up shots, it in motion, etc. ASM1 suit looked like a fucking basketball texture.
>>83080743
>bare minimum simplicity makes you a fag
>contrast is irrelevant
>camp is cringe-inducing
How to tell someone knows nothing about design in three easy steps.
>>83080788
Oh! I didn't know that at first. Thanks for clarifying.
>>83076133
I don't hate it, but he looks like a basketball.
>>83076271
His eyes can be large too.
>>83081269
Not by that much. I want my Spider-Man to have Todd McFarlane eyes.
>>83081495
Me too, but these costumes change every movie, and I'm sure we'll see every major artist's impressions on screen.
>>83081269
Everyone was cumming in their pants when they first revealed the Spider-Man for Civil war because they finally did him """""""""Right""""""""" because his eyes moved, but literally how did it affect his portrayal in the film at all?
The action was so fast paced that you can hardly register his dumb shutter eyes opening and closing so what's the difference?
>>83076263
That's depressing anon. Go outside and get some exercise.
>>83081699
They can show him scared/startled which makes him feel more vulnerable and reactive to the world around him. Like watching Giant-Man before his eyes. It's definitely noticeable here >>83081269.
The fixed eyes forces the actor to either tilt or bob their head, which makes him look like a dog. Works better for Daredevil who uses his ears instead.
>>83081699
Yeah. And while it does make sense (him needing the lens to help him focus), I feel like it works better for Deadpool since that character almost lives in his own separate reality where his expressive eyes can exist.
>>83081699
What the fuck more do you want from a Captain America movie? The eye pieces give him expression that wasn't possible from the last three suits.
The action wasn't that fast. Maybe get your eyes checked out.
>>83081816
I bet you didn't even notice Panther using them too.
Subtle stuff like this helps a lot.
>>83081990
>I bet you didn't even notice Panther using them too.
Not that anon but did Panther have that too? Any specific examples? I feel like the only time he did was when he was fighting Bucky at the airport.
>"Then why did you run."
>>83084113
It was just in the close-ups, since his eyes are smaller and not mechanized in-universe.
I bet they've altered the model of an Iron Man armour to be in a different shape (without moving it in the same shot) before and just didn't say anything about it.
