Am I the only one who un-ironically likes the Punisher?
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Yes, you are the only person on the entire planet that likes Frank.
>>83064990
>>83066152
That is because we are all Franks.
Frank be with you.
>>83066166
What the Frank did you just Franking Frank about me, you little Frank?
>>83064990
He's pretty popular on /co/.
>>83064990
Don't worry anon as long as you don't like John constantine your probably mentally stable enough
>>83067743
but i like John
What do you mean un-ironically like?
I find him to be an immensely entertaining character, but I wouldn't want to have go to lunch with him or anything
>>83066155
I think tileanon is only one that gets off to tiles.
>>83067906
>but I wouldn't want to have go to lunch with him or anything
Why not anon? It's not like he's going to kill
(1/2)
>>83067906
>>83068039
you or anything. Unless you're a gangster but considering you browse 4chan I doubt it.
Was Warzone his best story?
I miss bearded Frank.
>>83068039
>>83068056
He'd probably just wanna talk about how he's gonna kill a bunch of criminals. Or how the system's corrupt. Or guns. He doesn't seem like he could have a fun discussion about like, if you had to almost drown in any kind of liquid, what would you want to almost drown in?
I'd want to almost drown in chicken soup
>>83068133
Have you
>>83068133
>>83068237
Never read
Franks
>>83068133
>>83068237
>>83068243
Punisher: MAX ?
>>83068133
>>83068237
>>83068243
>>83068259
Spoiler alert. It's great.
>>83064990
Who doesn't like him? Frank's just a lovable rascal in a world full of hi-jinks and whimsy.
>>83068282
Got Slavers coming in the mail this week.
What is the strangest story Punisher has had?
>>83068310
the one with eminem
>>83068259
>>83068243
>>83068237
Some few months ago I saw a documentary on the BBC about how prostitution-slave rings are still a thing in a lot of places around the world, including the states mind you, was surprised on how much Ennis was spot on with his work (we all know punisher max is the definitive punisher run btw)
But all in all, it's very depressing all things considered.
I wonder what would Frank do if he was thrust into a world of Utopian unity and peace, a future society with no wars to fight, no crimes to solve, a unified , peaceful people?
Or, simpler, what if someone just thrust him into a empty, forrested world, with nothing but luscious greens, trees, and crystal blue lakes, and animals running around?
Would he snap?
Would he kill himself without being able to wage War?
>>83068334
In the first case? I don't know. In the latter he'd just hunt big game for the rest of his life.
>>83068334
It's pretty much a fact that once the war is over, there's still one bullet left in the barrel.
>>83068334
The former is basically impossible
The latter he'd probably just fart around in nature and try to find a way back home
>>83068310
The only one I can think of right now is the Luke Cage team-up.
>>83068309
Holy shit if you like Punisher stories then that issue is going to be like a masturbatory god send.
>>83068334
Raccoons are natures thieves. They'd have to go.
>>83068310
He got turned into a black man once...
>>83068401
Well I've liked the previous issues so far.
>>83068310
Purgatory/Revelation, Franken-Castle, and about 1/3 of the Marvel Knights run (Taxi Wars, the midget mafia, Squid, Hidden, etc.)
And that's only the modern age. Plenty of earlier ones that involved things like temporarily turning black or using powered armor to fight urban white trash PCP freaks.
And then you get AUs like >>83068324
>>83068303
Are these all the people Castle has FRANKED in his life time? Why no any big names?
And can anybody name some?
Growing up other nerds would berate me
"The Punisher isn't a super hero, he has no powers" they said
"The Punisher isn't even a good guy, he kills people" they said
"The Punisher is just angry asshole, that's why you like him because you are" they said
Well fuck you all, capefags are the worst
>>83068453
>Why no any big names?
Because comic writers re use the same characters over and over again and comic readers only want to read about the same characters over and over again. The reason Punisher doesn't kill high profile villains is strictly because of the plot, the same reason Batman can't kill the Joker. It's simple
He killed Stilt Man and a couple other capefags in Civil War, don't remember who
>>83068303
Top row, second from the right. Looks hot.
>>83064990
The punisher is shit, and you should feel bad for liking him Matt
>>83068453
Any villains Frank actually manages to kill outside of his own rogues gallery rarely stay dead. Anyway, there's:
Stilt-Man
Persuader
Goldbug
Jester II
Vulture IV
Power Broker
Shadow Knight
One of the Raiders
>>83068493
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/the-punisher/4050-3855/object-appearances/4005-22264/
>>83068303
Where's Baraccuda?
>>83068585
>Barracuda in 616
That's a really bad idea, that's an universe way too PG for a turd like cuda
Frank just seems like he wouldn't be a very fun guy to hang around. He doesn't really smile or have fun very often, so I can't imagine a conversation with him about movies or tv shows or even sports would be anything short of one-sided at best. I seriously doubt he keeps up with any of that.
>>83068585
I decided to make two, one for 616 and one for MAX, because having them together would have been made for a fucking enormous chart.
It'll be done soon enough.
>>83068471
The thing I like most about Frank is that he keeps it REAL. He's not out to prove a moral lesson like Bats or Superman. He's just a simple guy that just cares more about saving peoples lives than all of that philosophical bullshit.
>>83068619
Oh, I missed the (616) in the file name, that explains a lot.
>>83068619
Noir has been his only decent non-MAX appearance.
>>83068639
You mean cares more about killing people
>>83068635
His kill count in 2011 was 48, 502 so who knows what it is now...
>>83068699
I remember reading that number but wasn't that across continuities?
>>83068303
Oh, and here's the guide I slapped together for my autism chart. My proofreading job was probably shitty.
I should probably combine them into one image.
>>83068670
That's all subjective :^)
>>83068670
He cares about saving innocent people by killing evil people
Capes care about saving all people, even the ones who are going to continue to kill innocent people
He sounds more sane to me
How's Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe? Is it any good?
>>83066166
>we are all Franks.
So nobody on Earth like Frank?
>>83068622
For what it's worth, this isn't meant to be a knock on Frank or his comics, he's just the sort of character where it's hard to imagine telling a story besides a Punisher story with him. It's a mission that's consumed his life. That doesn't make him a bad character, but even if you were down with all the killing he does and completely supported his methods I can't imagine he would spend much time hanging out with you unless you were part of his crusade and could contribute to the war effort in some way.
Like, picture dragging Frank out to see a movie. Can you imagine him actually wanting to discuss the movie afterwards? Even if he didn't hate it, does Frank seem like the kind of guy who would spent time trying to articulate why he liked or disliked a film? Trying to be friends with Frank seems like it wouldn't be much fun, is all I'm getting at.
Marvel's Batman, except where Batman never kills for the greater good Frank never stops killing because he's an asshole.
>>83068903
>Batman never kills for the greater good
And how many lives would have been spared if he did?
>Frank never stops killing because he's an asshole
They had it coming. All of them.
>>83068903
>the greater good
>people being slaughtered by a clown is for the benefit of society
you're a juggalo aren't you
>>83068916
>>83068929
A man in a bat-costume or a guy in a black wifebeater does not decide who gets to live or die. They are not qualified.
If you want to blame anyone, blame the legal system.
>>83068903
>Batman never kills for the greater good
Except when it's in movies.
>>83068282
It has a few good arcs, but let's not pretend they're all great.
>>83068952
>A man in a bat-costume or a guy in a black wifebeater does not decide who gets to live or die. They are not qualified.
Says who? The entire point of all super heroes, killers and non killers, is that they act outside of the law to protect people where the system can;t
>>83068471
All those are solid points, though.
Doesn't keep it from being a good read.
>>83068916
Even Eddie Brock after he conformed?
>>83068986
That's why there's only one Dredd.
>>83068986
You made that up, they're meant to protect people.
Why would it ever be their responsibility to kill? Does the legal system get a boner from Batman taking their responsibility onto himself?
>>83068670
I dunno there's a lot of human Frank moments where he intentionally gets himself in trouble saving someone. Hasn't he gotten himself arrested by taking someone to the hospital before.
>>83064990
I too find Frank entertaining just as I find many characters entertaining.
But I dislike when a writer masturbates over them as a substitute for actually being a good writer, just like I do any other character.
Unfortunately this happens to Frank a lot.
>>83069029
Killing people can protect people. Morality is a social construct and is subjective, no two people have the same morality.
>ctrl+f born
>no responses
For shame
>>83069064
IT'S NOT THEIR FUCKING JOB
IF GOTHAM WANTS THE JOKER DEAD, THEY KILL HIM
>>83069085
Gothams so corrupt though, that it's hard to read what the people actually want. I mean how many heads of Arkham turned out to be nut jobs now 3, 4? Isn't there an elite secret society manipulating the system. How long did it take Gordon to straighten out the GCPD again?
>>83069177
That should make it even easier. And the only solution still isn't "Bats breaks his neck"
>>83069085
Do you forget that even though Batman draws the line at killing, he is still a criminal? He runs around beating the living shit out of people, criminals or not, that is against the law
If Gotham wanted their criminals brutalized, the cops would do it right?!?! No, that's not how it works either
>>83069085
"THERE'S ANOTHER WAY, FRANK."
>>83069296
If he didn't beat people up then nobody would buy his boring comics and the entire universe would cease to exist.
>>83069333
Well technically with the Punisher, he's not taking out super villains with plot armor every issue. If he did though, it's a 5050 "ominous death with a *might be* resurrected"
>>83064990
I always liked the bits with Joan in Welcome Back Frank. She had a really well-written dynamic with Frank and while I'm glad she got to come back for a bit when Frank was in Vermont I wish she had stuck around as a more permanent part of the cast in The Punisher's comics.
Then again, it's probably a blessing in disguise that she retreated New York to a cottage in Vermont, since if she stuck around in the comics as part of Frank's supporting cast it would only be a matter of time before a writer would decide to have her rapemurdered for cheap drama
>>83068753
Pretty much every gun in that pic is from 40k or Halo.
>>83064990
He doesn't try to pretend to be a better person unlike some other edgefags
>>83068952
What an adorably naive thing to say. ^^
A spandex, a wifebeater... none of that matters. The one and only thing that has *ever* decided anything, is power. Morals and ethics have nothing to do with that process. In fact, morals and ethics themselves are merely the byproduct of a society that seeks to maximize its own productivity in the long term.
Law isn't good or bad either, it's just a system that's designed to keep the society in as much of a working order as possible.
So when a police puts the shit on you when you did not deserve it, the only reason they do that is not a moral high ground, it's because he can, because the law, and the support of the society gives him the power. When a bully bullies you, it's because he has the power. When a criminal mugs you or hurts you, it's because he has the power. None of the bad stuff that happens to you depends on morals, it's all about power.
That's the underlying idea with superheroes that I like, with the Punisher especially. They interrupt the power balance. Whether they admit it or not, they ARE above the law, they are their own power, unconstrained, uncontrolled, and they abuse their power to fix what they law can't, or won't.
>>83068303
It's a shame that all of his best villains are from MAX
>Cavella
>Finn Cooley
>Rawlins
>The Slavers
>Baracudda
>The Man of Stone
>The Governent stooges
>>83068863
If you csn ignore Frank being covered in plot armor it's fine(Which anyone eho isn't autistic enough to give a shit about should have). The ending is what sells it.
>>83069011
Eddie was dying of cancer at some point, I guess that counts as a mercy kill.
>>83071915
>Finn Cooley
I AIN'T NOBODY'S NIGGER!
>>83068259
This is Ennis, right? Because I've read a TPB of Aaron's Punisher Max and it was shit.
>>83064990
made me laugh, gonna read this from now on
>>83072221
Ennis' is GOAT Punisher stuff though.
>>83068471
Hi, Matt.
I like him, I dig what Ennis did, but it gets old when all discussion begins there and ends with people making metal gear jokes. There's almost zero love for Dixon, Grant, etc.
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>>83074835
>There's almost zero love for Dixon, Grant, etc.
Yeah the 80's stuff is my favorite. It's just solid action/revenge stuff.
>>83068524
>>83064990
have you been to /K/.
it's the one comic they always allow.
>>83068544
Remender probably found the best way around this by resurrecting a bunch of the Scourge's victims.
It gave Frank the chance to fight supers that he could actually get away with killing because there was no "somebody might want to do something with them later" excuse because they were all fucking dead and were for years before this story.
>>83068039
>>83068056
I'll never get why people hate the way this played out in the Netflix show. I like that Daredevil was able to pick another option.
>>83068399
Fuck, now I'm going to have to find that.
>>83068755
If Frank is in a building, targeting a mob boss, and he runs away while starting a fire that will take out the building and kill everyone inside, while yelling that there's hostages in the place, is Frank the kind of person that will let the mob boss live if it means saving innocent lives, or would he Frank the guy, if it means the hostages die horribly?
>>83077744
People did? I found the fact Frank actually had a bullet in the gun really weird though.
>>83077988
He would save the hostages, Ennis once described Frank as the kind of guy who would run into a burning building to save someone. Depending in the writer he will compromise his goals to prevent harm to innocents.
>>83068639
He was an asshole in that run
>>83067919
Shut up, heretic human-fucker scum.
I love Frank!
>>83068248
awesome job
>>83068310
Eminem story was shit. Black Frank (not to be mistaken with Frank Black...) and mafioso Frank were the weirdest.
And Frankencastle too is weird.
>>83068863
Very good! Not Max-good , but still
>>83065203
This the Rucka run?
>>83081070
Yeah, War Zone Volume 3.
>>83081070
yes
>>83068639
>saving peoples lives
All Frank cares is the war. He is a piece of shit.
>>83078123
>He would save the hostages
Nah. He would try. Then he would be like: "I did all i could. The war most go on. I will find this mobster and kill him and all his family for this"
>>83068056
which board would frank post on?
>>83082826
Don't know what Punisher you've been reading anon.
>>83082766
If that's all he cared about, he would have taken Micro's offer.
>>83082910
>Don't know what Punisher you've been reading anon.
>Frank wanted to divorce his waife BECAUSE he couldn't stand a life without war.
>He gave his soul in exchange of an eternal war.
>His idea of heaven is battlefield
Warmonger, no hero. Just a war monger. Spidey was right about that asshole.
>>83068282
>There are times I'd like to get my hands on God
Fedora tipping aside, I've always loved that line.
>>83084423
It's a pretty justified statement when you've seen as much shit as Frank has.
>>83084423
nothing to be ashamed of.
It's just plain badass.Riddick came close to it with his line
>>83068325
Man back in High School when I was taking Model United Nations, I had to look up countless articles about human trafficking because of the committee that I was in. It really stays with you and I suspect that's the reason why I still can't check out that Punisher story.
>>83084423
>Every negative mention of God is now automatically fedora
This is one of my least favorite memes.
>>83084423
The Punisher owns because he's a twisted fucking psychopath.
>>83067919
I could get off to tiles
if I felt like it
![ya-utopia[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/lOqblrM.png "ya-utopia[1].png")
>>83068375
>The former is basically impossible
it's straight up America Chavez's homeworld, but it is pretty hard to get in or out
>>83071915
Fuckin' Rawlins
>>83088269
>>83088269
He's not a psychopath though.
>>83064990
I like the Punisher.
Am i the only person who wants to see a Female punisher. and no pandering bullshit just straight punisher antics.
>>83089417
Nope. Make her dad ex-IRA and put in some strong Catholic undertones.
If a child jaywalked across the street which is illegal in that state, would he kill the child?
>>83089760
he'd fire a warning shot or fifty
>>83089760
I'm like 90% sure he doesn't give a shit about crimes below armed robbery and drug trafficking.
>>83089417
>>83089659
Rachel "Took Her Husband's Name" Alves?
>>83089417
>>83089792
>>83089816
What if the kid was planted with drugs, used as a mule. When Frank tries to talk to the kid, he pulls a knife out and tries to attack Frank. What then? Does Frank fucking snap the kid's neck or staple hia head to the wall with a nailgun?
>>83075109
>>83088213
Pffthah, and people say bats has plot armor.
>This guy isn't going to shoot me because I say so
>This demigod dies from conventional firearms because my writers were too shitty to come up with any real powers or gadgets
>>83089823
Like the look, but I'd like to see them step away from the whole 'murdered my family' angle and maybe go with something similar to "Falling Down". Maybe even tie it in to how shitty we treat our vets.
>>83090008
>Maybe even tie it in to how shitty we treat our vets
Isn't that already a part of Frank's whole deal?
>>83090210
I haven't really seen him dealing with crap like shit job opportunities, head trauma, pain meds, mental health diagnosis, or the VA horseshit with more than a offhand comment or two. That's not really what the character has traditionally been about.
Honestly though, there's a damn gold mine for a character as subversive as the Punisher (relative to other capes anyway).
