Elsa needs a prince in the next movie.
>>83011555
elsa needs a sex scene in the next movie.
>>83011555
Nah, sorry anon but they got to me, i tried to resist but like a dentist drill the sound has scarred my soul.
#GiveElsaAGirlfriend
She has a prince namedAnna
They still need to please the SJW so not... unless what is more progressive black boyfriend, asian or latin?
>>83012038
Well her VA actually...uh...well
>>83011555
Yes! A transgender prince! You're good at this, OP.
>>83011555
Why date, when she can literally ice-form the most devious vibrating sex machines imaginable? Just give her a copy of the JCPenny's catalog, and leave her alone.
>>83012038
There's no such thing as being able to please the SJWs. They had to make the prince in The Princess and the Frog indeterminate brown because SJWs were upset over my diversity when they tried to go with a white guy, and that Tiana had to settle when they tried to go with a black guy.
She's so perfect.
>>83011555
As long as it's someone she really loves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDswiT87oo8
>>83012212
What's wrong with a black woman and a white man isn't a interracial couple more progressive than a same race couple is this the same bullshit of SJW wanting movies where the entire cast is one race to feel represented
>>83012114
Blacked?
>>83011555
>want to make character openly homosexual
>want to release movie China for huge foreign box office $$$
pick one.
>>83012038
I've got just the right guy for you.
>>83012114
is a tranny?
>>83014400
>Black women hide my super suit. White women iron it for me.
>>83012114
It's amazing how we're all curious, yet none of us are bothering to Google it.
>>83011555
elsa needs her sister in the next movie
>>83011871
>>83015846
I'd like to see Elsa give Anna a kiss, or vice versa. Just a sisterly show of affection on the head or cheek as a thank you or something. Cuz I want to see the Internet lose their fucking minds. I already got the popcorn ready.
>>83015734
Don't care, although apparently she's married to some black guy. Haha, blacked meme, etc.
Welcome to 4chan. Hope you enjoy your disappointment.
>>83016009
But that's exactly why I want her to get a bf too.
I want to see everyone go fucking insane.I haven't even watched this fuckin movie
>>83011555
I know the perfect guy.
>>83016448
I straight up don't care about Elsa's relationships but I want to see Hans get a redemption arc in the inevitable sequel.
It's ALL I want out of it.
>>83016096
You should, its not bad. Certainly not as good as its hyped but if you go in with the normal expectancy for a Disney movie you should be well entertained.
>>83012114
Her VA is blacked
>>83016064
Idina Menzel was married to Taye Diggs for about a decade, her co-star in the broadway play Rent. She is currently cohabitating with Aaron Lohr, a co-star from the movie version of Rent. Not sure of Aaron's ethnicity but from a GIS he looks to have some latino lineage.
(I guess she doesn't meet many people outside of her work)
I've never seen anything to suggest that Idina isn't hetero. The character she played in Rent was bisexual.
>>83012546
In some SJW circles, a white man with a black woman is "stealing" the black woman - i.e. it's colonization all over again. But it really depends on the group - it's difficult to understand the way different SJWs think without going way down the rabbit hole.Kind of like /pol/
>>83017057
In fact, she's joked she's kissed half the guys in New York in her younger days.
>>83017057
Ah, thanks. I had no idea Elsa's VA was a Latina.
>>83016902
Eh, fuck that guy.He left one girl to die and tried to stab the other in the back.Not every douche bag needs forgiveness.
But, I guess if Emma Stone can play a sexy young Cruella DeVille, anything is possible.
>>83014400
Double-dubs make it official: this must happen.
>>83014400
>>83017202
Idina is of eastern european jewish lineage, she ain't latina. Her current boyfriend looks latino but not sure.
>>83017202
But by all fairness he was a better ruler.
Are there really rabid Elsa fans who don't know her VA? If you think Elsa is hot you need to see her singing some risqué songs in Rent. And her role as Elfaba in Wicked is pretty much the inspiration for the misunderstood-villain Elsa.
>>83017006
Looks like Caitlyn Jenner right there.
>>83017006
Is that Cuddy from Dr.House ?
>>83017587
Idina menzel is twice Elsa's age actually.
>>83011555
You dropped a pais of s letters. It's written princess.
>>83012546
That's just it anon, they don't care about racial equality, they just don't want white men to have anything.
She is hot
>>83016096
Elsa gets a boyfriend all the SJW goes apeshit because either they feel their homosexual, feminist, asexual symbol have become part of the heteronormative of society and we can just sit and laugh. i support this anon now
>>83021909
Drunk Elsa is best Elsa.
>>83011555
You dont want more lesbian r34 anon ?
>>83012038
it's okay if he's white and male - he just needs to be emasculate. a damsel in distress.
>>83022814
There some class of male character like that to be an example, there actually a comic about a empowered girl with a beta boyfriend ? because that would be the fantasy of a lot of people here.
>>83017006
I'm white and I'm blacker than that guy
>>83022814
>Elsa meets a nice girl and they get in awkward close mildly sexual situations
>It's actually a guy who is disguised as a girl because reasons
>At the end they fall in love and he no longer has to dress up
>Disney makes billions, doesn't piss off main audience because comedy, she's with a guy in merchandise and in parades, and SJWs complaining get called transphobic
>>83022814
>>83025085
i think you guys find the perfect answer to the problem
>>83011555
Here's a song that accurately describes her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT5EhMFUqhk
>>83011555
So, just like another Disney princesses movie then.
Im pretty sure they not going to do that just like frozen 1. They avoiding the usual generic Disney princesses as long as they can.
Nah, she should be an eternal virgin queen to not compromise her political power.
>>83011555
Yep, luckily the franchise has a prince available, already introduced
>>83011871
Anna is straight and with Kristoff. I'm willing to bet money they'll get either married or at least engaged in Frozen 2 - leaving Elsa feeling lonely, and thinking about how nice it would be to have a "gentleman friend", as Menzel put it
>>83026467
Why elsa is always crosses her hands ?
>>83026624
trying to hide achmed's pregnancy bump
>>83026624
It's "elegant" and "refined", I guess it's meant to show how controlled and well-mannered and regal she is, compared to Anna who's clumsy and enthusiastic and all over the place
>>83022119
>she will never get drunk as shit off cough syrup while making your birthday perfect
>you will never tuck her in and leave her a glass of water for when she inevitably wakes up with cottonmouth
Life is cruel, anons
>>83026801
Rule34 exist anon
>>83011691
>ywn make 44 billion dollars, buy Disney and make them create beautifully rendered porn of Disney Princesses
>>83012038
China seems to be okay with light skinned actors from central america like Oscar Isaac, Diego Luna, and Benecio del toro. Majority Chinese women would prefer lighter skin over black, Disney also needs to sell toys, Finn toys didn't sold well compared Poe or Kylo Ren
>>83012038
They don't need to please the SJWs, they need to please their lucrative core audience i.e. parents. The SJWs like to campaign, they retweet and like and reblog posts in order to "support an important cause", but they don't put their money where their mouth is. Look at Paranorman, which had possibly the first canon gay main(ish) hero character in an animated movie. Did the LGBT supporters flock to the theatres? No, it made dozens of millions less than Frozen's budget (not counting advertising). Also progressive children's entertainment with gay romance is still a bit too progressive - Steven Universe fir example had scenes censored in west euro countries like Uk and France etc. Scenes censored is okay for a tv show, but a movie, which is a one time deal? Pleasing the SJWs isn't necessarily good business
>>83011555
Elsa is a queen, she needs a female harem to help her rule effectively.
>>83027072
They probably have made a lot of porn of her, anon. There was a "making-of" or an interview or something with the animators, where they said how they all fell in love with Elsa and tried to give her more focus and screen time in the movie. Like pushing Anna out of the frame during the crowning ceremony, so that everyone could focus on Elsa.
>>83028290
Just think, the animators probably have private screening parties where they compare the lewds
>>83026689
I don't mind Anna being all over my place if you know what I mean
Call Dreamworks, I have a proposition.
>>83028855
No.
>>83028855
>eternally teenaged mythical spirit of mischief
>in any way a good partner for a mortal woman already older than him who needs to rule a kingdom and has a lot of responsibility and trauma
I never understood this pairing. It's literally just "they're both silver haired and have ice powers, it's perfect". Besides it'd wreck Jack's in-universe backstory, and also he's paired with toothiana
>>83026624
to hide the boner.
>>83017006Mind the uniform, Cleric
>>83028944
why
literally why
why does this exist
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
>>83028360
Like the confirmed "official" lewds of Eva from Wakfu.
Lets hope Frozen 2 will be rated at least PG-13
>>83026689
more like restrained, that's one of her traits.
>>83027072
>tfw no master Elsa models
>>83029482
>Frozen 1 sold merch to preschoolers so well it boosted the entire Disney stock
>let's hope they'll make the sequel unsuitable for their most profitable audience segment
Anon...
>>83030072
A man can hope even if its not going to happen anon.
>>83028932
Elsa's hair is a light blonde while Jack Frost's is platinum.
>>83030184
Also Elsa cant use her powers properly
>>83025843
She is only ruler of a small village though.
Arendelle is not like Westeros
>>83020214
She is, now. She wasn't so much older than Elsa during the filming of the movie version of Rent and was only 25 during the broadway run, so if Elsa's voice turns you on you might like watching the VA playing a bisexual performance artist (ie - glorified strripper/sexpot).
Too bad they didn't make a movie Wicked while the principle were still young. I'm still not sure why they haven't adapted that one yet. I believe someone pitched an animated Wicked, and before Frozen was a thing. Elphaba was adorkable!
>>83030184
In some scenes her hair is white
>>83011555
I want to Fuck her
>>83032065
That's just the lighting. She's blonde.
>>83031127
I think the kingdom is larger, but we've only seen the capital.
>>83034091
In the official books theres only Arendelle & one small blacksmith town.
Arendelle is small (like whiterun in skyrim ), those blacksmith town is even smaller
>>83034325
Well that is kind of sad. Why is this a Kingdom again? That sounds like a County or Principality at most,
>>83014400
I'd ship it.
>>83034463
Because Disney.
>>83022253
I don't know what the Frozen comics are going for. Hell, I don't even ship it, but it makes them look at least disturbingly codependent.
It makes me feel like Elsa is going to go yandere at any moment.
>>83027072
>44 billion dollars, buy Disney
Man you jave no idea what Disney is worth
Fox almost bought WB for 80billion
You honestly think disney is worth only 44?
>>83034662
I don't know what you mean, anon. I make huge affection hearts for my sister and hold hands all the time.
You Americans get so uncomfortable about reinforcing family bonds.
>>83034662
I think Elsa is a bit fucked up. The 3 years when she couldn't control her powers, the only people who knew about her (mom and dad) were dead and she thought she could never let anyone know about her must have been really hard.
And then she accidentally killed Anna and thought she'd killed her only remaining family member / friend in the world. She must have massive traumas
>>83027072
Anon, they make that much as half their annual revenue, as of 2015.
>>83034758
>>83034662
>Anna finally marries Kris.
>Elsa freezes the whole Kingdom, so no one can take Anna away.
So that's her villain origin.
>>83034732
>Is my smile truly genuine?
>Or is this the silent scream of a cuckold?
>I no longer know the difference.
>>83034822
Nah.
Probably another person who got Snow powers like Elsa.
But this time is the real villain, not like Elsa.
And Anna got kidnapped, Elsa & Kristoff going to find Anna (because in frozen 1 Elsa is only got like 30% of screentime)
>>83034822
Evil Elsa gets me hard.
>>83017429
>order the queen executed on the grounds of treason (??? she's the ruler of the land in the 1800s how on earth can he charge her with treason) because she killed her sister (no witnesses, no one even saw the princess's body)
>kill off the entire royal family and basically ensure that Arendelle tears itself apart in a civil war if there isn't a cousin or two as all noble families make claims to the throne
>better hope that Elsa's death really would bring the end of the winter because if it didn't he really shafted himself
>exposes himself to harm at Elsa's ice castle, thus risking a vacuum of power and above scenario as well
>managed to have everything fall into his lap in the span of a few days through sheer luck and still snatched defeat from the jaws of victory
>a better ruler than the woman who was the defacto ruler of her realm for three years alone and enjoyed the love and devotion of her people despite her isolation and eccentricities
Elsa had a freakout brought on by years of isolation after years of seeming prosperity (note how well off the citizens seem to be). Hans had a plan in mind that he failed to fully implement because he decided that gloating was better than making sure Anna actually died, y'know, that thing that was the linchpin of his entire plan (imagine how awkward it would've been if someone had asked to see her body or had walked by while Anna was begging for help!). He literally talked about playing the hero. That's not a good sign for his reign as king: it speaks to a man who demands undue attention and is willing to kill to get where he wants to be and yet is STILL too incompetent to finish the job and reacts stupidly when faced with Anna's living body before she punches his lights out.
>>83034758
I mean, she's codependent because Anna IS her entire world, the only friend, the only living family member she has. After 13 years of isolation, 3 last of which pretty much total isolation after the parents died and she was completely alone, Elsa doesn't have anyone else. She has no friends, no lovers, no penpals, no relatives - no-one. Anna is literally the only non-servant/official connection she has in the world.
It puts a pretty unnerving spin on how clingy she is about Anna, and also about the whole of Frozen Fever and how obsessive she was about how everything has to be PERFECT. She must have massive guilt over Anna's life so far having been ruined because Elsa's a freak and the castle had to be shut down, and also over her accidentally freezing Anna to death - she did die, Elsa did start to mourn her. The cake topper showed the moment, before she changed it. She must have so much guilt, so many traumas. I mean she couldn't even hug her own mom since she turned about 10, she couldn't touch anyone, no wonder she's super clingy, she's starved of affection.
It's all
>I'm sorry I ruined your life till now, I'm sorry you never had a proper birthday because I'm a freak, I'm sorry you lost your memory because I'm a freak, I'm sorry I killed you, here look I got all this stuff for you I arranged this party for you look the kids are singing look look please don't hate me, I'm sorry please don't leave now that the gates are open, I can't bear to be left alone again I don't have anyone else in the world I'm so sorry I love you you're all I have I'm sorry
It's super unhealthy when you think about it. I really hope Elsa gets a princely suitor in Frozen 2, holy shit it's high time for her to meet new people. Especially since Anna will be marrying Kristoff, or at least getting engaged to him, in the sequel
>>83028932
He's also kinda technically dead.
>>83035148
>>83035164
You take kids movies too seriously lmao
>>83034888
>Elsa vs. the Snow Queen
>Elsa and the Snow Queen duke it out using their powers on the big screen
All my yes
Hiro needs a robo waifu in the next movie
Lets hope theres a gun in Frozen 2
Even zootopia has a gun.
>>83011555
Wait, are they really making a Frozen 2? I thought they were only gonna do the comic thing and call it a day.
How ironic, that Elsa has...
>>83035332
...no chill.
>>83035364
>>83034732
>>83034845
...Jesus fucking Christ, Elsa. This is beyond obsessive behavior.
>>83035324
Frozen is like MCU & Star Wars for kids.
It prints money.
>>83035148
Well, there's an IRL precedent to a situation like in Frozen - in Sweden in the 1800s, the king was shit, lost a war and half the landmass (Finland) to Russia, and the nobility and the military had enough, simply locked him up in a dungeon and held a council meeting and elected a new king, a Danish prince (who died, after which they elected a French nobleman who was related to Napoleon through Josephine and who took the throne and whose bloodline is the current Swedish royal family). So the right to rule (in the Nordics) is a bit like being the CEO - you're the boss, but if the real owners of the stock / assets (nobility) are dissatisfied, they can have you sacked and a new ruler appointed.
Elsa fucked up; she froze the country, she fled her duties, threw away her crown, declared she's never going back, caused a natural disaster that threatened to kill several of her citizens. Pretty much abdication. After her, Anna is the remaining royal, the de facto monarch as the princess regent. Elsa kills her, and Hans believes it to be intentional since Anna only says "Elsa froze my heart", she omits "by accident". Therefore, treason.
The nobility AND military support Hans, they tell him "Arendelle looks to you", they tell him to leave Anna to die alone in the cold when he's planning a second search&rescue because he's the one Arendelle relies on (!), they accept his sentencing Elsa to death and the soldiers go with him to execute her. So, the support of the citizens, the nobility and the military as well as Anna's "I leave Prince Hans in charge" all together make his rule legit. It's a coup.
Countries aren't like estates. The monarch doesn't own the land in the same way a rich person would own their estate, they just manage it, but it's the nobility that owns most of it (the monarch's noble family of course might own some lands). It goes to whoever the nobility supports.
The sisters thought of themselves and their feelings. Hans thought of the kingdom.
>>83035324
Have you been living under a rock? They officially announced Frozen 2 like a year ago at least. According to Kristen Bell the VAs are already recording the lines
>>83035520
You should create a novel
>>83035364
Elsa reminds me of the type of person who goes out of their way to get you unmatchable birthday/Christmas presents, and unknowingly guilts you the rest of the year because you can't possibly come up with an equal gift.
>>83035220
>complains that people discuss a cartoon
>on a Cambodian shadow puppet discussion subboard specifically dedicated to discussion about cartoons
wheredoyouthinkyouare.webm
>>83034845
>Would like to watch ice blocks and chill with my GF
>She can't stop snuggling with her sister
I'd be fucking pissed.
>>83035886
Watching them both kiss or fuck is way more hotter anon
>>83025843
Should be noted that Elizabeth I virginal status is questioned by historians by the number of male "friends" and suitors she had. After all, who besides her politcal rivals would dare to insinuate their pious unmarried queen wasn't a virgin.
>>83035943
Not when all you doing is just watching, man.
>>83035943
>Awkward threesome where Elsa and Kris refuse to even make eye contact
I want it.
>>83036015
You can just fap while they kiss and let it all out on their face
>>83034732
>Dutch
whatever Aboutaleb
>>83035520
>The sisters thought of themselves and their feelings
Elsa fled because she caused the natural disaster you just talked about. She outright says "I belong here, alone, where I can be who I am WITHOUT HURTING ANYBODY". She is aware of how much of a danger she is and she removes that danger. Hans absolutely thought of himself: "I will be the hero", ["You won't get away with this!"] "Oh, I already have", "I knew the only way I would get to the throne was through marriage" = he doesn't care what kingdom he inherits, his concern was that with 12 other bodies in between himself and the SI throne he was shit out of luck there.
Anna says that to Hans and Hans alone, and Hans later reveals he intended to kill Elsa to gain the throne. Which means that a) he is the sole witness to Elsa's treason and b) he himself was willing to commit regicide so that's hardly a point in his favor for following law and order.
The nobility you mention are the foreign ambassadors who have no legal ability to encourage Hans's claim. Yes, it IS a coup, which means that anyone who has a legitimate claim to the throne can drum up support that would throw Arendelle into a civil war.
>>83034888
>>83035229
If real snow queen is villain or new character, please be this pic related
>>83036740
Whoa Elsa didn't fled cause of the natural disaster, she fled because ahe exposed her powers and even if Hans just wants kingdom and doesn't which kingdom does not mean he's gonna be a bad king.
>>83036987
She exposed her powers by throwing ice shards at her sister = she is dangerous.
She stayed away because she's still dangerous.
He's likely to be a bad king because he is a) theatrical and grandiose and b) incompetent despite being blessed with severe luck and c) willing to murder his way to power = immoral.
>>83036740
Hans wasn't some selfless hero, but even so he was more responsible, a better ruler, and thought more of the kingdom's needs.
Anna doesn't think much. She ruins the coronation because all she thinks about is romance; she's the 1st in line to the throne but shows zero interest in any duties or even defending Elsa from Weselton's fearmongering. She rides off into the snow in a ballgown with no map or equipment, and almost dies before reaching Oaken's by chance. She mainly thinks of her own emotions and acts on impulse, responsibility isn't her strong suit.
Elsa, on the other hand, gleefully declares she's never going back, let the storm rage on as soon as she has an excuse to drop her duties. Sure she says one part of it is not hurting anybody, but her actions during Let it Go (and also the total lack of plan b in case something would go wrong during the coronation) indicate she sees ruling as a burden she's happy to drop.
Anna was obviously dying from Elsa's magic when she returned to the castle, her hair was white, she was so cold it could be felt instantly through her winter clothes, she was too weak to walk. It's clear to everyone she got hit by Elsa's magic and was close to death. You remember she did freeze solid - Anna WAS killed by Elsa.
The nobility supporting Hans is the only nobility seen at any point. Anna officially appointed Hans in charge, so any local nobility or anyone with power should be there, in his council. Therefore it can be assumed they represent also the Arendelle nobility. Also the local military supports him.
In any case, Hans is the one who showed any interest or responsibility in managing the kingdom and saving the citizens. Anna cares about romance and her relationship with Elsa. Elsa cares about being able to be who she is and running away from her problems.
>anyone who has a legitimate claim to the throne can drum up support that would throw Arendelle into a civil war.
And neither Elsa or Anna give a shit about that.
>>83037371
He's shown being excellent and competent at ruling. He's only theatrical during the one scene where he lets his loathing for Anna and her whimical impulsiveness show as he thinks she's practically dead and it doesn't matter.
The movie even clearly spells it out; "Arendelle is indebted to you, Your Highness". They'd be fucked without him.
Also being a bit ruthless doesn't make someone bad at ruling an entire country, you know. You're just butthurt because he was mean to widdle Anna, so you want to think that he'd be incompetent, but the movie shows Hans as very competent; he's good at diplomacy, good at charming people, good at managing the evacuation or whatever emergency stuff, good at navigating, good at combat, good at psychology (he manages to wind Elsa down and keep her from killing people - whereas Anna, dealing with an agitated Elsa, provokes her into lashing out and cursing Anna to death instead of winding her down). He's so good the Arendelle military backs him up when he assumes power and sentences their Queen to death. He's so good the nobility tells him point blank to leave the Princess Anna alone in the frozen woods, he's the one Arendelle is relying on now.
Come on man, he's competent. He may be an asshole but he's competent, the movie spells it out very clearly
Elsa needs a great warrior philosopher-king.
>>83028855
This ship is base around they both have ice powers by that logic you could ship Elsa with sub-zero and the lich king and they still be a better ship than this bullshit
>>83037387
He thought more of the kingdom's needs because he wanted it for himself. It does him no good to let Arendelle rot when he wants to be its ruler. His motives are purely selfish.
>or even defending Elsa from Weselton's fearmongering
She does just that: "my sister isn't a monster! She didn't mean it, she didn't mean any of this." She doesn't react to him in the ballroom because she's just as stunned as everyone else is, and she's too busy chasing after Elsa to deal with the Duke in the courtyard.
>responsibility isn't her strong suit
Forethought isn't her strong suit (and to be fair to her, she went after the on-foot Elsa on a horse, and it wasn't snowing that badly when she did. She would be right to assume she should have been able to catch up with Elsa easily, especially since Elsa leaves a trail of ice in her wake. Somehow she doesn't). She went after Elsa because she said she was responsible for tonight, which she was, and she was quick to note that Elsa wasn't actually angry or frightening but just scared, something that no one else did: she presumed (and was right to) Elsa's innocence.
Let it Go consists of Elsa lying to herself and experiencing the first gasp of freedom she's had in years: she tells herself she's free and she makes herself another cage, she tells herself she's opening the door and the song ends with her closing it in the viewer's face. She's riding a high after being swamped with stress for years. Yes, she is relieved to be free of the burden of responsibility because it comes with the burden of hiding and concealing herself: note how quickly she returns to giving orders and being concerned with the state of Arendelle ("Get Anna!" "I'm a danger to Arendelle") when she's back.
>>83038349
>it's clear to everyone she got his by Elsa's magic
Not hardly. No one besides Kristoff, Elsa, Anna, and her parents and the trolls know that the white hair indicates she's been struck by ice magic. Anna makes no comment in public about being hurt by Elsa. They know she's freezing cold but the servants don't call for a doctor and simply leave her with Hans, which says that it's not clear to them that she was dying.
The nobility are foreign and therefore do not count as Arendellan supporters. They are also credited as specifically foreign ambassadors in the credits, so they cannot be presumed to be stand-ins for the Arendelle nobility.
Elsa was ruling offscreen for three years before Hans showed up. During that time she maintained Arendelle's prosperity. She has three years on him, but the most calamatous moment of her life is regarded as an example of her ruling ability instead of those years.
>good at diplomacy
He asked Elsa for her sister's hand in marriage on the day they met. She politely informs him and Anna that that's fucking bonkers. Had he any sense, and ability to charm anyone besides a lovesick and desperate princess, he would have secured her permanent affections and sprung the question at a later and more appropriate date.
>good at managing the evacuation or whatever emergency stuff
What evacuation? All the ships are still there. There is no sign anyone left, since everyone comes out of their homes, the ones they were still occupying, once the ice lifts. Where are the teams of ice harvesters breaking up the ice in the harbor to secure movement on the sea for supply lines? Where are the wagons to take people from far flung and frozen villages to warmer areas? He handed out three blankets and talked about warm food in the palace. He gets kudos from the woman because he's doing more than just whine like the Duke does.
>>83037371
>murder his way to power
Sounds like a leader to me.
>>83035148
>>83035164
>>83035520
>>83036740
>>83037387
>>83037581
>>83038349
>>83038381
>>83038381
Hans is good at emotional manipulation but his impatience is what gets the better of him. He fell into the perfect storm and he still screws up by asking for Anna's hand immediately, by not waiting until Anna was dead or smothering her (and this is after he's explained his plan in detail to her; that'd be a bad time for someone to check up on the two of them or eavesdrop). What if someone had gone to look at Anna's body and found her cursing his name? He choked on the finish because he cared more about gloating than wrapping up loose ends. Sloppy work on his part, showing that he cares more about being playing the hero he decided he's going to be.
>>83038495
What am adorable bunny who should be fired for sleeping on the job.
>>83012212
they also had to change the princess name due to complaints over the original name: maddy
>>83017282
>sassy BLACKED elsa
more pls
>>83035364
What is that, the ninth giant ice sculpture you gave Anna this month? Elsa, sweetie, that's gonna get old at some point.
>>83038381
>No one besides Kristoff, Elsa, Anna, and her parents and the trolls know that the white hair indicates she's been struck by ice magic.
Rrrrriiiight.
They've all seen the Queen suddenly display unnatural magic powers, she shoots ice from the floor and ice blasts from her hands and freezes the entire kingdom. Later the militiamen see her having made a castle and a dress and a living monster out of ice and snow, the monster tries to kill them all, the queen tries to kill them, and seemingly masters her unnatural magic.
Anna went after the queen, specifically trying to meet her. She comes back unnaturally cold, too weak to move, with her hair unnaturally completely WHITE. The symptoms do not match dying of frostbite, as freezing to death or getting very cold in snow doesn't result in one's hair going completely white. There's no natural explanation for Anna's condition.
Hmmm I'm sure no-one would draw the conclusion that Anna indeed did find the queen and she hit her with an ice blast like they saw her shooting around at the coronation.
Seriously Anon I can see you're desperate to cling to your views but come the fuck on.
If the nobility cannot be taken to represent Arendellian nobility, then where the fuck was anyone official from Arendelle? Why do they not do anything at all? Their country is in a crisis, where are they? All the more need for Hans to step up and take the reins, holy shit.
As no-one has seen Elsa before the coronation, I wonder just how she's "maintained Arendelle's prosperity". Also her having sort of managed her job doesn't erase the fact that she caused a life-threatening disaster the FIRST DAY of her rule; that's being spectacularly incompetent.
Also
>inventing measures that "should have been done" and claiming that Hans did nothing that wasn't directly shown onscreen
>at the same time inventing measures and claiming that Elsa definitely did them all responsibly even though there's zero indication of that in the movie
>>83039734
Don't you have a country to rule Elsa?
>>83040058
That's what I was think. Elsa sure does have a lot of free time.
Then again, Arendele isn't that big.
>>83038349
>He thought more of the kingdom's needs because he wanted it for himself.
Doesn't change the fact that he thought more of the kingdom's needs and did more for it than Anna or Elsa did during the movie.
Again, he most likely would have made a good king. The topic isn't whether or not Hans is a good man or if his motives are pure and good (obviously not), it's whether or not he'd have been a good ruler. Perhaps the motive behind his competence is a desire to show off to his family or be admired, but nevertheless, he has the capability to rule well - or at least, better than Elsa and Anna.
Ruling a country isn't something you do through just being sweet and honest and pure of heart, the skills you need to succeed in politics are a bit different, you know.
>>83040168
If she just wants to have sisterly binding with elsa than why not just let hans be the king?
>>83040189
Historically, rulers motivated by raw ego put on a good early showing, but ultimately peter out in the end.
Their charisma draws people in, but they can only maintain it for so long. Then they resort to increasingly extreme methods to hold onto that glory.
>>83040241
>sister bondage
>>83040269
But Hans isn't rule by pure ego, there's a pragmatism behind his decisions.
>>83040521
These dumb babies.
>>83040026
You were the one who made the claim that Hans was responsible for evacuations, but we see no evidence that that happened. Elsa was the ruler during her three years (since there is no one else to rule with her parents dead: if there was someone like a regent then he would have seniority over the underage Princess Anna and therefore her denoting Hans as in charge would be illegitimate) and there is no evidence of Arendelle declining during those years, and her citizens are prosperous and happy to see her. I never said that Hans did nothing that wasn't shown onscreen, but I did dispute your claim that he did things that show no evidence of having occurred.
Yes, they see that Elsa has magic to create physical ice and snow, which the ice castle is made out of. The servants who brought Anna to Hans did not see either Marshmallow or Olaf, nor did they see or hear of Elsa hitting anyone directly with ice. As far as they are aware, Elsa creates physical things: they know nothing of her wielding curses. If someone revealed they had the power to shoot flames at will, would you assume that someone who returned after a few days spent in a desert with an absurdly high fever was due to them being hit with a curse? I wouldn't. I'd know that something was seriously off, and I might entertain the nothing that it was connected, but I would be unable to draw that conclusion without evidence, evidence that is entirely dependent on a single witness, a single witness that stands to gain everything (since he explicitly mentions his marriage vows, made in private) by them being true. If I'm so quick-witted as to draw a connection between fire magic and fever AND ill intentions by a sister who had made no vicious moves towards her sister for years, why should I be so dull as to accept the claims of a man who has been present for days, the first of which involved trying to marry the princess? Human motives are far easier to understand than magical laws.
>>83040241
Nice try Hans. Why don't you just fuck Elsa in the first place
>>83040241
>I wonder who this poster could be.jpg
>>83040347
His entire motivation is showing up the rest of his family. That's his only real reason for all this.
Did you not even watch the goddamned movie?
>>83040026
My guess would be that said officials heard that Anna gave the reins to Hans and rightly believed that it would be a temporary thing while Anna retrieved her sister and so may be working offscreen. The foreign ambassadors, the ones who stand to gain by backing an upstart and who are clearly biased against Elsa, are the ones who would crowd around Hans.
She maintains it by ruling. I'm not sure what you mean. She doesn't need to be physically present and visible in order to make decisions, sign laws and draft trade agreements and the like.
And I'm not discounting what she did. I'm pointing out that only focusing on what happened at the worst moments of her life and stating that this is indicative of Elsa's reign isn't looking at the bigger picture. You can't say that Hans makes for an excellent ruler based on a few days worth, during which he lucks out repeatedly and still loses, and then say that Elsa's years of management that had no visible ill effects on the state of her citizens has no bearing on her ability to rule.
>>83040189
Again, Elsa left both because of her own fears but also because of how she was a danger. I don't disagree that Anna's responsibility focuses on her sister and not on the realm itself, but to argue that the man who is trying to steal the throne cares more for the country means that he'll be a better ruler than the one who seeks to refrain from harming the public is just folly. He cares for the kingdom because he wants to keep it.
Nor do I disagree that one needs political savvy. But Hans's impatience and desire for fame and glory in order to show up his brothers aren't good qualities, either. Had he just waited for Anna to die, he would have won. But he HAD to gloat, he HAD to walk away without seeing it finished. And doing that means that he's not setting himself up to be a good king, just an ambitious man.
>>83041039
That was the plan originally but then he heard she was frigid and that Anna is a slut.
>>83040347
Nor is Elsa ruled by pure fear, there's pragmatism behind her decision to flee.
>>83041265
It's ego but what king doesn't have that? My point is that Hans is a pragmatist and doesn't do everything to sate his ego.
>>83041015
>I never said that Hans did nothing that wasn't shown onscreen,
Oh now you're nitpicking. You said
>He handed out three blankets and talked about warm food in the palace.
Which very strongly implies he didn't do much at all, or pretty much anything that wasn't shown onscreen, and also tried to frame Gerda (?) telling the audience that Hans is doing a good job as just some one woman being polite.
Also you trying to claim that no way would anyone have connected
a) the queen suddenly developing magical ice powers, which is unheard of, and shooting ice blasts at people (at the coronation, before she flees, she shoots a blast at the Duke in front of the crowd and the castle staff) with
b) Anna suddenly suffering from an apparently lethal condition caused by ice magic right after she went after the Queen.
Anna didn't just wander off and return with a strange condition, she specifically went after the queen who had displayed dangerous magical powers and who had been later witnessed to use said magical powers aggressively in an attempt to kill people, and then returned with an inexplicable condition that's apparently caused by the very magic the queen has displayed on several occasions. Also the servants probably talked with the castle guards who were with Hans at the castle and did see Marshmallow, as they probably wondered what the heck happened once Hans brought the Queen back unconscious and had her locked in the dungeon, that's rather exceptional. Plenty of time for Kai and the castle staff to ask both Hans and the local guards they know about what went down, and hear from them that their queen tried to kill them all.
Your arguments are super flimsy, dude. You're reaching so hard you're about to sprain something
>Stealth Frozen Gen #232254345
This thread is less cancerous than frz board in infinitychan lol
Look at there to see how cancerous those board is.
>>83041405
To indicate what little he did onscreen, and from there wondering why you presume this makes him a good ruler. And yes, since what he did do onscreen was something ANYONE in his position could have done, her comment is sweet but hardly true. It doesn't take an excellent ruler to get drinks and blankets out. Hell, I'd be more impressed if he wasn't giving them out himself because that suggests that he's either shorthanded or he only has so many volunteers willing to work for him, despite him being in control. This is further exacerbated by the fact that he asks for volunteers to find Anna instead of ordering up a squad.
>caused by ice magic
See, that's not clear. She never says that to anyone besides Hans and no one is there to witness that. All they know is that she's cold and her hair is a different color. Again, everything everyone has seen so far has been physical manifestations of ice and snow that act just like ice and snow normally do. They haven't seen anything about curses. Someone who was told that Anna was struck by the queen wouldn't be wrong to assume that Anna got stabbed or has a bruise from being hit by physical ice instead of some sort of particle beam.
And yet, if these servants were aware of the things you say, why did none of them call for a doctor? Why did no one talk about it? Why did none ask her why Elsa had struck her? There's nothing to indicate they knew anything at all besides that she's inexplicably cold. Again, one could make a logical leap, but there's no evidence to support it yet.
>>83041704
>See, that's not clear.
Oh come on. She's
a) shivering with cold in an unnatural way, too weak to move,
b) so unnaturally cold it's felt instantly even through her clothes, again in an unnatural way as people remark on it ("her skin turned ice") even though they'd expect someone's clothes to be cold coming in from a ride in the snow
c) gone COMPLETELY WHITE of hair, again that's extremely super unnatural and freezing does not cause that.
That's not caused by natural means. The white hair especially is a dead giveaway of unnatural forces at play since dying of hypothermia does not cause that. Nothing natural does. And they just a couple of hours ago had the magic-using queen in a magical ice dress brought back and the guards talking of how she tried to kill them all with magical snow monsters in her magical ice castle - you're actually trying to claim that they wouldn't make the connection?
Also we don't know what they asked her as they walked her to Prince Hans, it can very well be she mentioned that she did see Elsa, as it'd also explain why they didn't question Hans at all. They didn't call a doctor because both Kristoff and Anna seemed to insist on her being taken to Hans ASAP, so they're not going to disobey the princess.
>everything everyone has seen so far has been physical manifestations of ice and snow that act just like ice and snow normally do
You're lying and you know it;
>ice blasts from hands
>ice growing from the floor
>freezing fountains
>magical snowstorm freezing the entire land instantly
>ice dress
>ice castle
>walking, talking snowmonsters
>ice spears etc following the queen's will
>white hair and ice skin
>instead of some sort of particle beam.
They literally saw the particle beam in the courtyard before Elsa fled across the water, pretty sure they'd think of it
I wonder if I'm being trolled here
>>83042358
Again, again, I am not saying they could not have possibly made the connection. I am saying that they do not have evidence to back up a claim of treason because the magic that they have seen is not the same as the magic that might be killing Anna.
>a)
She walks with assistance and nothing about her shivering is different from someone who is exceptionally cold.
Everything but the snow monsters is physical ice and snow, and the snow monsters themselves are physical creations, and again, you're making a bunch of assumptions here about what was said offscreen. Elsa's magic acts quickly, but it still takes physical shape and acts like ice and snow do. You are again citing the white hair as though it's known for certain that Elsa caused it.
They saw a beam that then became physical ice. I return you to my previous example: would you assume that a person with a heavy fever was struck, and maliciously so, by someone with fire magic? The thought might cross your mind, but you haven't evidence of it. You know something weird has happened but you can't come to a conclusion without evidence.
>>83014238
Frozen didn't hit in China. That's what Disney uses MCU for.
On the other hand, gay Elsa might be financially problematic in Japan.
>>83022253
Literally gay.
I want Frozen TV series but classic disney animation
>>83043828
So 2D?
>>83043996
Yeah
>>83036103
>>83043828
>all these sensual Elsa expressions
>never animated
>>83028176
>too progressive
Why don't you like gay people anon?
>>83044132
That'd be nice, but only if it were of the quality of their animated movies. The problem is, it wouldn't be.
>>83043996
>>83043828
thatd be insanely expensive
>>83028855
>>83028932
So shit and so hot.
>>83044931
>never animated
Not by Disney...
>>83011555
#GiveElsaAGirlfriend
#OrElse
>>83035943
>being a literal cuckold
jesus christ anon
>>83035520
This is a very very good shit. Congratulations anon.
Now I need to write something about this.
>>83035148
>>83035164
>>83035520
>>83036740
>>83037387
>>83037581
>>83038349
>>83038381
>>83040026
>>83041015
>>83041405
>>83041704
>>83042358
>>83042690
>all this shitposting
It's just a fucking movie you fucking idiots.
>>83012173
She's a queen, it's her duty to her country to have children and continue the royal line. Anna's children wouldn't be eligible for the throne.
>>83012212
That's because SJW's don't care about the things they complain about. What they care about is forcing people, companies and the government to change something. What the change is doesn't matter to them, just that they made it happen.
>>83025085
There is no better solution
>>83017057
Lohr is some variety of half-brown. Could be latino. Could be white,
>>83038123
>you could ship Elsa with sub-zero
Fund it
>>83041481
because the few frz fags there were left when the frozen general died all moved to snowchan.
>>83047058
you could also ship elsa with a polar bear
>>83046185
>discussing a movie is shitposting
>>83046271
Anna's children would be eligible for the throne, but they come in second after any children Elsa has.
>>83047058
But which Sub Zero?
>>83047226
That's actually a good point
>>83047226
The second one not Bi han, the younger brother that become main sub-zero after his brother died
>>83025085
Elsa's botfriend is the first trap prince, i like where this idea is going drawfags please
