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So, he was gonna melt Lex's face just like that?
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So, he was gonna melt Lex's face just like that?
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>>82924981
well he took his mom and was going to kill her
i would do the same

its not like he cares about human life
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>>82925040
I can almost swear when the courthouse or whatever blew up, he had the faintest hint of a smile as he walked out of the fire.
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>>82925188

More like disdain

>Well that was a waste of my time
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>>82925210
>I could've been saving a cat out of a tree
>Instead I got people parts all over me
>My feet hurt, I'm going home
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>>82925188
>>82925210
>it's called projecting and you can do it to!
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Clarck getting mad like that just makes him relatable. Also him threatening Luthor.
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Even the Buddha has wanted to strike other in anger.
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Muh Martha was the whole point of the movie anon
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I think the Capitol Hill scene and everything else during the movie was Superman bottling his feelings up.

Snyder said him and Batman fighting was them letting their anger out on eachother.
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>>82924981
There's one thing people hate more than a murderous Supes and that's a hypocrite Supes. They got everything wrong they could have gotten wrong in this movie except Batfleck. He would have made a great Bats for a Dark Knight Returns adaptation but they had to spoil him on this garbage.
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>>82925286
As evident by that one statue of him pulling a knife on a nigga.
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MURDER
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>>82924981
Nah, it was just a threat. It's unlikely he'd go through with it.

Despite the movie being pretty bad, I actually really loved the roof scene with Lex and Supes. I just think it would have had more impact if Superman was a bit more friendly throughout the film, so him losing it like that was more shocking, and if Lex was more put-together throughout the film, so we actually see his veil fall.
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>I don't care, he kidnapped my mommy
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>>82925957
>I don't care, he killed my mom steve!
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>>82926043
Except Tony watched his parents both die at the hands of the guy standing next to him.
I'd imagine most people would freak out about that.
What'd Supes have? A picture of Martha in a cell somewhere or whatever? Not really the same thing.
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>>82926239
I think the picture had a guy with a gun to her head.
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>>82925778
kek
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>>82924981
Imagine being this powerful demigod and a lowly inferior human being kidnaps one of the only persons you care about.
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>>82926239
>>82926341
I'd do the same if I was in Supes or Tony's position. The point is though that I'm not Superman: he's supposed to be level-headed, compassionate, and always value human life.

Idk man, I do not understand what Snyder is trying to go for with his interpretation of Superman... it's all over the place.
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>>82926445
Yeah but the point is his appeal comes from the fact that he doesn't do what anyone else would do if they were a demigod
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>>82926239
>some guy just tossed your girlfriend off a roof then showed you pictures of your kidnapped mother held at gunpoint while taunting you

Versus

>finding out the guy who killed your parents almost 30 years ago is standing right there then spending the next 20 minutes trying to kill him and your coworker despite knowing he'd been brainwashed
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>>82925957
>>82926043
>comparing Superman to Tony "I'm a literal retard" Stark
Superman should be better than that.
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>>82926567
Superman has wanted to kill people before brah.
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why didn't superman just rape Lex? That would have ended the conflict for good
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>>82926685
Yeah but that's more golden age right? I could be mistaken, I just always thought that was his characterization.
I always refer to Hitman (issue #34 I think?) when he's telling Supes why he's such a good guy
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>>82924981
that's how Superman is
he has constant mood swings
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>>82926850
>Yeah but that's more golden age right? I could be mistaken, I just always thought that was his characterization.
>I always refer to Hitman (issue #34 I think?) when he's telling Supes why he's such a good guy
He had a hate boner for darkseid in the DCAU
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>>82926912
Injustice Supes is an autist
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>>82926912
Hey Snyder, I see you're reading Injustice to make the Justice League movie
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anons, I know you're bad at things like human emotions. Here's a quick lesson though: you're supposed to be enraged when someone threatens your mother.
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>>82924981
Of course.
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>>82928126
>YOU WERE RIGHT ABOUT HIM BRUCE
>YOU WERE ALWAYS RIGHT ABOUT HIM
>LOIS IS THE KEY
>AM I TOO SOON? AAAAH! TOO SOON
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>>82925188
That's because he heard the Curb Your Enthusiasm song.
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>>82928565
Nice dream sequence Supes :^)
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>>82928609
It's still my head cannon that Bruce forced them to lock him up.
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>>82928704
>Wonder/Bat can only come into existence via Batman wooing Wonder Woman by snapping someone's neck
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>>82928660
>it's a "refugee's deserve to be here" episode
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>>82925188
>>82925210
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>>82924981
Wouldn't you have done the same.

>Man of Murder
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>>82929077
I am so glad I chose not to watch this movie.

Probably won't even pirate it.
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>>82929077
>Did I leave the iron on
>I have to pick up a gallon of milk on my way home
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>>82929077
Just... C'mon, a big :( frowny face would've been a more appropriate expression at the time, can't characters in Snyder movies emote anything other than complete apathy and "NNNOOOOOOO"?
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>>82928565
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>>82929077
His face means "I can't believe I didn't see that coming. I should have scanned the room."
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Despite having mastered his enhanced senses/abilities, he still has to maintain control over them. In this moment of anquish and rage, he nearly lost that control
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>>82929077
>doesn't even kneel down in shame
>literally no emotion to signify any remorse for this
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>>82929381
"Gee, that sure sucks, what a dummy I am. I bet it's going to take an hour to wash off all this ash... Oh, and hundreds died, dang, that sucks too"
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>>82929427
>>82929456
this
God this Superman is such a twat
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>>82929427
>>literally no emotion to signify any remorse for this
He is in shock and escapes to the north pole to be alone he feels like shit
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>>82926597
Doesn't sound like a very relatable character to me then :^)
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>>82929427
That would be corny
Glad youre not writing this
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>>82929602
Yeah, I sure am glad that there's nothing corny in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, dodged a bullet there.
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>>82928704
Where is this from?
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>>82929684
Injustice, it's Superman's dream sequence of a perfect world where Batman killed the Joker.
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>>82929077
It's too perfect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1o3koTLWM
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>>82929671
>"AAAARRRRGGGHHHHHH IM IN EMOTIONAL PAIN FROM THIS BOMBING"
>*takes a knee*
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>>82929765
Truly, Zack Snyder would never resort to that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM7BKQZ-LOw
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>>82928704
>Grey hair on Superman

I thought he was immortal?
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>>82929914
Sometimes he's immortal, sometimes he ages very slowly, sometimes he stays in the sun until he gains infinite power.
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>>82929914
As per Kingdom Come, which pretty much laid the blueprint for "DC characters in their old age", Superman ages slower than regular people, in that story, Batman is an old man that needs an exoskeleton to move around properly and Supes is just sporting some silver edges.
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>>82929077
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>>82929993
>>82929914
Diana is truly immortal, right?
or at least ever lasting youth.
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Why does everyone seem to hate this movie? I personally loved it, yeah the mom being abducted plot device should've been tighten up but overall it was great. I'm glad of the serious tone it had, honestly getting tired of the jokey mood Marvel movies have, Winter Soldier is my favorite superhero movie because of this.
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>>82930143
She used to be, back when she was a clay figure given life, now that she's a demigodess, I don't know how those work in the DC Universe.
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>>82929602
>It's okay when Goyer does it.
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Fuck it, may as well ask here. Anyone have any webms of any of the fight scenes from the movie? particularly the Doomsday fight with WW?
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Superman has a switch the back of his neck that goes from apathy >>82929077 to screaming >>82930234, and those are your only options.
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Disney shills, the lot of you
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>>82930234
Difference from killing someone and not being able to save them. I think that his emotions are properly shown in both these movies.
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>>82930283
>BvS is perfect! PERFECT!
>if you don't like it, you are Disney shill!!1!
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>>82930335
You might need to take a few pills for that.
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>>82930335
No, if anything, he should be more outraged by all the innocent lives lost in the bombing. Anyone would be emotionally ravaged after that. Superman is not actually some kind of emotionless robot. He does feel and actually show it often, believe it or not.

Zod, on the other hand, was unfortunate, but he was also a madman who was willing to kill for as long as he was able to until he was put down. Even if MoS should've been written so that Superman could find another way, he still ultimately saved lives by killing him, for as much as I don't care for that aspect of the movie.

It actually makes Superman look really selfish here. What, his morals are more important than lives?
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>>82926912
Why hasn't Batman killed the Superman?
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>>82930444
If you don't portray Superman as an unfeeling alien it's gonna be less cool when Batman punches him, though.
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>>82930498
Or it makes it clear how misguided he is. Then when they are fighting, Superman can pull his punches, and actually talk, and bring about a realization about Superman's true nature that isn't dependent on a coincidence.
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>>82930234
>>82930278
>>82930498
this superman feels more like doctor Manhattan that regular sup.
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>>82925263
>Clarck
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>>82930909
Hmmm. I wonder why?
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>>82930498
Yeah, I guess that was the point, wasn't it? I know at least one guy who couldn't stop yapping about how Batman kicked Superman's ass in this movie anyway and how Supes deserved it.
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>>82929077
>tfw some of Lex's piss got on his mouth
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>>82931176
that's some durable piss
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>>82928690
>marry Amazon Princess
>walk with a cane
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Well I mean if someone kidnapped my mom and threatened to kill her, I would've done some damage too.
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>>82931208
Don't underestimate granny's peach tea
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>>82931278
Kek/10
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>>82930479
He tried about a dozen time but then suddenly some jackass comes along, saves Superman, kills off half of Batman's crew and prolongs the story for another year
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>>82930444
He isn't angry because he's blaming himself for not stopping what happened. It's clear by his interactions with Lois. You can see the sadness in his face, like he's holding back tears.
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>>82925778
i had a giggle m8
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>>82930909
Didn't Snyder say that he wanted his DC films to feel more like Watchmen than mainline DC stuff?
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>>82931821
Don't recall that, but I do remember him saying that he brings a bit of Watchmen philosophy to ever project he has worked on since. I assume that means he thinks deconstruction works well with everything, even the character who is the manifestation of everything it is meant to be the antithesis of.
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>>82928565

Say what you wish. But if Batman actually did this a lot of problems would be solved.
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>>82931959
You kidding me? I loved that dream world. That's why I saved it. I'd kill for an alternate world set there instead of the one we actually got.
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>>82930909
If you honestly believe this then You've clearly never read watchman before.
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>>82931688
>You can see the sadness in his face, like he's holding back tears.
That's kind of his default look tho.
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>>82932018
Not really tho.
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>>82932018
You would be too if you're trying to do the right thing but everyone gives you shit for it, on and off screen
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>>82930444
>anyone would be emotionally ravaged
And Supes clearly was, he was at lowest immediately after that scene.
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>>82929717
O fuck anon, I don't remember when was the last time 3chan made me actually laugh out loud. Fucking golden star.
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>>82929077
>He's in shock!
>He's sad!
>He's horrified!
His expressions before and after the explosion are pretty similar, which makes it hard for me to buy all the defensive interpretations of this scene.
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>>82932046
Put a side by side image of >>82929077 and him walking into the senate. It's almost the exact same expression. Such range.
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>>82930013
Needs
>I could be watching Civil War now.
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>>82930234
>implying anything in Man of Steel was ok

Oh anon...
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>>82928634
>That Green Arrow costume
HHHHNNNNNNNGGGGG
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>>82926916
It's fucking Darkseid dude, c'mon. You can make exceptions for the embodiment of evil.
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>>82931688
>>82932116
Point is, the scene isn't directed well at all. He didn't really sell it at all. I blame Snyder since if anything, Cavill is a good actor who's a pretty damn good Superman, he just needs a director who actually knows what the fuck he's doing to give him solid direction.

He DOES come across as a little wooden in this movie, let's be honest. If we got a director and a writer who realized that Superman isn't a wooden robot, we'd get a Superman who didn't suck.
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>>82924981
For the record Martha Kent is hot
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It's not like he had a strong moral compass of a father figure or anything
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>>82932750
>Cavill is a good actor who's a pretty damn good Superman

At what moment in those two movies he was a good Superman? I can't think of any scenes.
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>>82926916
Darkseid mentally raped him. I think his hate for him is justified
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>>82933097
>Well, my dad DID say to let them all die. Let's try this...
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>>82933117
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUrryh9kh5U

And I thought he sold Clark Kent pretty well in BvS as well.

He just needs to be in a movie that doesn't suck ffs.
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>>82928319
fuck
he is going to do it isnt he
injustice will be adapted to the DCCU
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>>82933331
I think I have problem with his fucking smirk. He is just so patronizing and punchable.
I don;t see real Superman in him. Sorry anon.
Granted it may be connected with character as written, not the performance in itself. But Cavil doesn't elevate the role.
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>>82933466
>I think I have problem with his fucking smirk. He is just so patronizing and punchable.
Anon...

I think it's just you. there is nothing malicious about the way he acts there.
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>>82924981
You act like such a thing would have been out of character?
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>>82925839
>>82925861

WITNESSED!
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>>82929077
>Man, fuck this planet, just fuck it.
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>>82933097
Pa Kent loved his son in MoS, but damn if it wasn't an overall crippling experience for Clark.
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>>82925040
>its not like he cares about human life
Clark?
Are you fucking insane?
He saved 7-8 Billion lives twice and you think he doesn't care about life just because he thought ending the threat is immeasurably more important then the handful of lives he POSSIBLY could save if he stopped in the middle of the fight to save individuals?
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>>82929077

To me, that's the look of defeat.

He got involved in a foreign country when he shouldn't have, and caused an international incident.

Then, he goes to answer for his actions, and even more people wind up getting killed, this time because of his inactivity.

So essentially, he's in a damned if he does, damned if he doesn't situation, and that's why for a while he just fucks off by himself, only to return when Lois' life was in immediate danger.
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>>82934438
It's a fucking superhero. Showing any besic concern for human life would be recomended. Especiall considering it was him who got Zod and the rest to Earth in the first place.
Also, we learn from BvS that he doesn't really care for people, he just wants to fuck Lois.
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>>82934548
to me the funny thing is that he only saves lois by coincidence
if he hadn't made up his mind in time he would've returned maybe another week later to find lois dead

even the save in the desert is pure luck, lois could have been immediately shot
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>>82934555
>It's a fucking superhero. Showing any besic concern for human life would be recomended
Hence why he rescued the kids on bus & saved the oil riggers among other saves he made over the years on the road.
Hence why he surrendered to the military to be turned over to Zod
Hence why he went to stop the world engine despite knowing he would be weak around it.
Hence why he killed Zod instead of dragging the fight out any longer just to keep blood off his hands.
Hence why he took Doomsday out of the city almost immediately.
Hence why he held on to Doomsday after seeing the nuke coming.
Hence why he took the spear and died to stop Doomsday.
>Also, we learn from BvS that he doesn't really care for people
At no point is it even vaguely implied that.
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>>82926445
and you have the power to travel faster than the speed of light, can hear sounds miles away, and have x-ray vision, its almost like this demigod has the perfect powers for finding someone hidden away...
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>>82932140
Uh, it's very easy to tell how's this dude feels with that face, more than this and it's over acting.
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>>82924981
I would do the same.
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>>82930234
>Superman was more torn up about killing someone who was basically a monster at that point in time than letting a bunch of innocent people die
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>>82928634
>>82928644
Can you post the page where she's out is space and calls for him and he's suddenly there?
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>>82924981
Man of murder wants to murder. What's surprising about that?
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>>82924981
Yes, Snyder characters are all psychopaths, including Murderman and Batmurder.
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