Since we're always praising everything about the movie, what did you NOT like about it?
>>82818748
The amount of furries it created.
>>82818748
Gazelle. If she just sang, I'd have been fine with it, but having her give that speech with her horrible fucking voice was unnecessary. Bitch didn't even try.
Never found an excuse to go to that giant palm tree casino looking building that they showed in so much of the promotional art.
>>82818748
I don't like the apollogy scene of Judy. It felt forced and unessesary melodramatic.
The sloths scene was boring in the trailer and it already stopped me from watching the movie.
Gazelle and her song
The 9001th everybody dances ending.
>>82818748
that one awkward cut when they fall out of the pipe and into the river.
we see them fall out, we see them screaming as they fall, then we just get Nick swimming around calling for Judy. There's no bit of them actually hitting the water and it's really weird to watch because of that.
>>82818748
Gazelle & the song felt *really* forced.
The song's musical style was too "current" to, I think, really hold up with time, and it just wasn't very good. The whole "try everything" message falls flat because it's just too direct & not very deep, and overall most scenes with Gazelle felt awkward & out of place.
>>82818748
The endless chained general threads. When will they get banned like /frz/?
>>82818748
The endless threads fur fags make about this crap film
>>82819118
soon, relax
and they gonna make their own chan like, Zoochan.
kek. Furries are the worst of everything (yes worser than /frz/)
>>82819137
I dunno, at least Zootopia was a great movie, unlike Frozen, which was just meh.
>>82819154
I still havent watch zootopia
because i dont want to be accidentaly make another theater shooting because of furfags.
i just wait for pirate version of this movie, watch it once, and forget it forever.
The Macro pandering chase scene.
Because there's no way that wasn't intentional.
>>82819178
Went to see Zootopia 4 times. Never saw a furry in any kind of costume. Not even cat ears or anything. Saw a couple guys I figured were probably furfags, but they were in street clothes.
>>82818748
The ending felt a bit underwhelming. I liked Judy and Nick's little play, but at the same time the bad guys were caught too quickly, I feel. But whatever
Oh, and I couldn't stand Shakira. Nothing wrong with fictional versions of real life pop stars, but when they showed her as an activist with the inspirational speech and all it was so cringey. Reminded me of situations like that Mercenaries actor forcing the director to make him officially a good guy (despite being a villain for most of the movie) or he'd bail out of the project
>>82819094
How the hell did they fit inside that toilet anyway?
>>82819178
Good, please stay in your cave and never come out.
>>82818748
third act felt rushed, there wasn't much more to bellweather than being super racists and that's kind of lame.
After the YMS guy said the sound mixing was bad i couldn't stop noticing the sound mixing being bad
There were no Redwall easter eggs.
>>82819254
It was pretty big toilet.
How come this guy never got any mention?
>>82818748
Half of the movie's look. The final designs they went with. The character models in the final product are just "generic marketable cute". Original concept art was much more original. And better.
Hahahaha look at you furfags fapping to animals
Humans are the best.
>>82819203
>Watching Disney movies
>4 times
>in theathre
You really are Walt Disney's little slut.
>>82818748
It is too close of a fanart movie, the creators had an opportunity to do a 100% original content but instead brought nick color design too close of robon hood, and judy of brer rabbit
Also the politically correct plot. I prefer the original take by a long margin
>>82818748
There could have been more firearms. Also, too many serendipities went into solving the case instead of focusing on their skills more
>>82818748
Bellweathers' reveal was sudden and the story was noticeably time constrained. Another 10 minutes dedicated to fleshing out her and the sheep supremacists' motivations were direly needed, as well as more of the city devolving into racial chaos.
>>82818748
saw this last night,was just an ok movie,nothing special.
well,maybe for tumblrinas it might be the best thing ever but for the average guy,its just another ok movie
you're stuck inside a /co/ echo chamber. It is not some universally loved masterpiece. Most people I know who watched it have basically already forgotten it exists.
Same way with a lot of disney movies that used to have 24/7 threads on /co/.
>>82821580
>tumblrinas
nah, it means you're just in minority. Everyone i know loved it so much
>>82821655
try getting out of your safe space into the real world
>>82821708
You mean the real world that made the movie the currently most successful one of the year?
>>82821794
thats mostly cause of kids,any adult that likes it is a guaranteed tumblrina.
Not enough Finnick.
>>82818748
No nude scene with Judy and Nick at the naturalist resort.
>>82819886
Thanks m8 you reminded me that this eyes look good only on animals.
Also gazelle was useless and bellweather reveal could've done better.
>>82818757
You haven't felt the effects of this yet. Wait 10 years from now, when all the little kids who saw it are now old enough to express their new sexual awakening due to the movie.
>monday
>two threads
OP, you're just....
>>82818748
"cute is the n-word for bunnies"
it honestly felt like someone higher up thought of this joke and anyone with an actual brain was scared to tell them it was bad.
>>82818797
That building fascinates me. I wanted to see more of it too.
Let's see... I'm not a fan of the naturalist club scene. Chong is fine, but the whole "animals have bits but we can't see them" part wore on me.
>>82818760
It's been like that the first signboard appearance she got. It's like a voice is speaking from outside the movie
3rd act/villain were weak. Not HORRIBLE, but very weak.
But honestly, 3rd acts in most movies (especially animated ones) suck dick, so the fact that it was just mediocre instead of shit is okay.
>>82822170
Oh, also, Judy and Nick's break-up scene was terrible and felt very out of place.
>>82819203
Six times here, and the first and last time were with groups of furries. Other than those two I didn't see anyone in so much as cat ears.
>>82821987
More like creepy
>>82821873
Nice meme, bud.
>>82819654
We don't need that black and white morality, nature over nurture shit. It's the polar opposite of the message Zootopia was trying to communicate.
Basically: Not SJW enough
1. No foreign nations
2. No environment protection
3. No senior or sick or disabled citizens
4. No reflection on consumerism
5. The implication that farming is undesirable and that you have to go to city to be "anything"
6. The strange insistence on civilization
>>82818748
it was pretty hamfisted at times, made the dialogue stumble
>>82821580
the movie can be read as anti-tumblrina with very little effort.
predators = men with inbuilt desire to rape. used to freely rape women but then civilization happened
bellweather = sjw who wants to destroy the social status of men by fearmongering.i'm not saying this is literally what was intended, because what was intended is a movie about animals. mapping it onto human prejudices misses the point.
>>82822453
Judy=former rape victim who overcompensates by becoming a cop to get it even with men but her reason and conscience finally make her realize how much suffering she is causing on men
>>82818757
This
>>82818797
It was supposedly in thee proto-topia before judy became the protag. From what i can remember it the there was going to be roof top chase scene but it got ditched last minute and replaced with the savage jaguar attack in rainforest district
The climax needed more time on the cooking machine; it all went too fast from the moment they arrived at the "meth lab". Bellwether could have used a backstory, she was just another Hans. Disney has already used the "that one guy/girl that pretended to be good was actually evil" twist 5 times in a row.
>>82821987
>Not wanting to fuck human
wow, you're truly an animalfucker.
For real, how many of you are virgins and or kissless?
I liked the movie but I really don't get all the hype, is just a kids film is not even that good compared with Pixar films.
Is a furry thing ?
>>82823301
Humans are technically animals......just sayian.
>>82823301
I would not fuck anything from Frözen.
>>82823355
Humans have a mind
Animals didn't.
Oh right.... you're an animal... you dont have a thing called "Mind"
>>82821987
>this eyes look good only on animals.
killyourself animal fucker.
>>82818748
How Nick didn't get undressed at the Nudist bit
Also the references to other Disney films
>>82823424
>not wanting to fuck Elsa's perfect legs
>>82822327
Those are interesting points. How many Disney movies have disabled characters?
Not saying they're necessary or anything, just curious.
>>82818757
yup
-not enough finnick
-shakira's meh song
-underwhelming OST
-rushed ending
still a 9/10 movie, i just hope it's not the end of this franchise.so much potential.
>>82818748
It kinda drags right at and after the the Rainforest District bit. The start of the film with Judy going about her daily routine is the best part by far.
>>82818760
This.
>>82818748
It felt in some scenes that judy and nick won because of deus ex machina rather than their own ability.
>>82818757
this , such sights await us. oh and >>82818760
>>82818757
You ain't seen nothin' yet.
Remindme: 10Years 20days from now
>this whole thread
>it's an "Anon Doesn't See the Appeal" episode
Allow me to break it down.
>Despite the almost TOTAL lack of initial marketing, it has done almost as well as Minions (which you probably know by now as an overhyped piece of shit with a fucking HUGE marketing campaign).
>It's the latest computer-animated Disney movie. If nothing else, state-of-the-art animation and production are to be expected.
>The plot is at least a step or two above the usual WACKY ANIMALS DOING PEOPLE THINGS plot. It's no Casablanca, but it's still more original than a lot of the capeshit/sequels/movie adaptations coming out this year.
>For some anons, there is the fetish/cuteness/manchild appeal.I happen to fall under that category, but your mileage may vary here.
Some things to keep in mind that I think everyone has forgotten to some extent:You aren't required to like or watch this movie.Neither are others.It's not Sausage Party.
>>82818748
The plot was pretty predictable but fortunately the characters and world make up for it and then some.
>>82818757
What are you blaming that on though, because I've yet to fap to any character from the movie.
>>82824106
We're not talking about liking or not liking you autist. It's about flaws we've seen in the movie. You can see flaws in a movie and still like it. Stop being stupid.
Heres a big plot point that bothers me.
The "city cameras". If there are cameras recording everything, why didnt the police used them before Judy came along to see where the missing animals went?
There's a picture of the otter before his dissapareance. Was it taken with the cameras? Didnt they also record everything that happened later? With that fucking cameras the movie could've been solved in 5 minutes. Why would they add such an idiotic element? It ruins the entire plot.
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>>82824106
Ugh,Sausage Party.
It looks like it's going to be bad.
I really didn't like how the movie spent its entire runtime talking about stereotypes, perceptions, and prejudice in about as smart a way as a movie aimed at children is allowed to, but then at the end they gave all the ram henchmen funny looking eyes on the sides of their heads that none of the other animals had.
For a film about subverting prejudices, intentionally making the henchmen look weird so that they're visually offputting as a shorthand for them being bad guys feels both counter-intuitive and really lazy.
cam rips bother me. cant find a decent quality copy anywheres
>>82824180
Most of the movies plot can be solved in less than 5 minutes, see Civil War, BvS, etc.
You have a valid point but, if this is a mayor/Bellwether plan, they probably delete evidence, only bellwether show manchas's capture because all it was part of his keikaku ("keikaku" means plans).
>>82819254
Elephants have to poop too.
>>82824549
Still, they show no evidence of the police actually trying to use the cameras before. It's really stupid. And Civil War and BvS are both dumb movies and using them as examples brings Zootopia even lower.
Nick bringing out the blueberries again shortly before the ammo switch, giving away what they were going to do.
Found these in convenience store nearby. Should I try it?
>>82823301
Everything from Frozen looked disgusting partially due to horrible animation, moe anime tier character design and awful meme music.
Also if this one is literally 48 hours, sequel should be Cobra.
>>82824700
If they don't show evidence about it, doesn't mean police didn't try. Also, Wolves are very tricksters, Judy lost them in the security cameras, but Nick know about illegal way to prevent security cameras, wolves doing it this and with help from mayor and bellwether make it possibly.
I just mention Civil War and BvS as recent examples, but you can take any movie and found contradictions and plot holes, again, I love Back to the Future but it have many plot holes, but many people love it anyway, and I still enjoy it, same with Zootopia.
Also, it's a freaking kids movie, your point is valid, but you don't need to take it seriously or get mad about a children film.
>>82824923
Are you anons this desperate to yiff the fox you'll consume anything with the movie's logo on?
>>82825007
Nick knew about illegal way to prevent security cameras: that saved them some time, but it's not like they couldnt just see every tape until finding the car again. Judy and Nick had a time limit-- the other cops didnt.
If the cameras existed-- the cops should've forced Bellwether to show them the recordings. Everything indicates that they SAW the recordings-- because there was a picture of the otter before he went missing! So how is it that they didnt crack the case in a single day? It doesnt make sense within the movie.
I know it's a kids movie, but it has logic, it's not a bunch of random colours and noise. It tries to tell a story-- and it fails terribly because Disney cant write for shit. Makes more sense than Frozen, at least.
>>82818757
This. And that they were angry at each other. It's so cliche at this point and I've seen it a million times. It doesn't make any sense that every movie has this scene where they become unfriends and then they make up 5 minutes later. I mean shit, friends fight all the time but they don't go their separate ways over nothing.
>>82825115
>So how is it that they didnt crack the case in a single day? It doesnt make sense within the movie.
>A single day
How many camera do you think there are in all Zootopia? How many police officer do you think ZPD have? Even in real world it's imposible to have total control of the security cameras, it's very hard just to find a single missing person, even with high technology there is a lot of crimes still happen, security camera needs humans behind it you talk about logic but doesn't make sense that you want to solve this case in a freaking single day. And let's no talk about corruption because the mayor and Bellwether was hide info all the time, probably they delete important camera records.
Zootopia isn't a flawless movie, but take in mind the film suffered a lot of plot changes, it's a miracle the movie works so well, even they don't like the rupture scene between Judy and Nick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hiu3qJi0aPY
>>82825115
They didn't know where or when he went missing, and the cameras probably didn't give 100% coverage even in town- as soon as you're not sure exactly where he was at an exact time, there just becomes too much info to be able to go through it all and actually get anything out of it, especially since there are ways to dodge cameras/you can't see people in the backs of cars.
>>82824927
>horrible animation
>>82824927
Keep fucking animals, furfag
>>82825563
>it's a miracle the movie works so well
This is a mayor studio movie we're talking about. Stop talking about it like it is your friend's college project. They CAN and SHOULD review the story to avoid such mistakes.
Even if reviewing the tapes takes a month of work, NO ONE did it in the entire movie until Nick suggested it. I may have exaggerated with the "a single day" remark, but the "5 movie minutes" still stands.
>>82825593
Yes, they know where and when he was last seen. They could've used the cameras that recorded that exact spot and see what happened to him. They didnt need to search the whole city, just the spot that they already knew he was last seen and work from there. It worked for seeing a specific bit of the rainy jungle, it would've worked even better for the center of the city.
>>82825698
The issue being that once he walks off one camera you'd be stuck going "which of the eight ones around here will he be on next? What if he dodges one of those and appears next on one relatively far away? What if he stops somewhere for a while- when do I assume I've missed him moving and go back to comb through the crowds again? What if he gets in a car off camera?" etc, etc. If it was the only thing the police were doing that whole time then maybe they'd have the resources, but there were a ton of other missing persons cases. It didn't even seem like they had enough personnel to assign anyone specifically to the otter.
The fact that the wolves grabbing Manchas happened on a camera was a big lucky coincidencewhich was one of my issues with the film, doubly since nobody else even looked before Judy and Nick, believe her story or not, and following a car on a road is way easier than some (small) guy in a city.
>>82825698
>This is a mayor studio movie we're talking about. Stop talking about it like it is your friend's college project.
What is deadline? You just can't request more time in this kind of business only for "check this movie don't have any flaw", they sure review the film, but they don't gonna change the whole movie for tiny details. Also you are just pointing a minor flaws, you are taking this to seriously, is not like this ruins the movie, but if this ruin the whole movie for you, I just feel bad for you anon.
And you still think the cameras can solve the whole case faster, even with clues and the cameras, you just can't find missing people that fast, anon here >>82825593 and I already tell you cameras can't cover all the city (and again, ignore Mayor/Bellwether influece in the case) . In real life, even in cities with a lot of security cameras you can't prevent crime and find everyone, with you logic Why a kids films should find missing people faster just with clues and security cameras when in real life this isn't even that easy?
>>82825998
In real life, yeah, cameras are not a handy way to solve crimes and they take hundreds of hours of work. In the world of Zootopia, however, we saw easy-to-use, HD cameras that perfectly capture the ciy.
They got the wolves grabbing Manchas and the WHOLE trip their car did with the exception of a tiny tunnel. That they could get that in a few minutes but couldnt use it to track any other missing person is bullshit.
>>82826081
>they don't gonna change the whole movie for tiny details
Asking for the movie to make sense is not that big deal. Putting a case-solver in a movie about solving a crime is not a tiny detail either.
This doesnt ruin the movie, it just adds to the mediocrity it has in general. Althought that's another debate.
>>82825059
i didnt understand the hype for Frozen and demand for its toys.
now i do.
>malaysia got this for its Zootopia premiere.
i'm envious as hell.i want nearly all of this.
>>82826482
Why?
>>82826482
They get a pawpsicle tray? Not fair!
It used the same goddamn "oh it's the third act so we need to be angry at each other so we can have a heartwarming/funny reunion" bullshit that's in every goddamn movie
>>82826326
Again, I'm pretty sure, even in-universe with the super easy system, tracking a car would be way easier than a person. If they had a picture of the otter getting into the limo then I'd be with you calling bullshit, but "he went missing some unknown time after this picture of him walking downtown" doesn't really compare to "follow that car."
>>82826536
>>82826536
and a subtle tshirt, and baseball cap and babushka eggs with cartoon characters...
>>82826602
We got the Wolves getting Manchas in a car thanks to the cameras in a rainy jungle out of the commercial center, but getting the Otter entering the limo in the middle of the city would be OUT of the world? An impossible achievement?
>>82818748
I think the nudist place was unnecessary and only put in to get more furries. Also Gazelle's singing was bad and she's only there to gather ass-loving furries. But it's not just her singing either, I mean, when you get off a train/plane to NYC, do you get greeted by a giant electric billboard featuring Lady Gaga saying "I'm Lady Gaga, and welcome to New York"?
>>82826326
>In the world of Zootopia, however, we saw easy-to-use, HD cameras that perfectly capture the ciy.
So, it's ok in real world, but not in Zootopia? The fuck is this logic? And why you think it's easy to use it, and this doesn't men it's easy to find them, if we gonna play with the idea of "because in Zootopia is easy to use a camera" then why not "In Zootopia, finding missing mammals is a hard task for the whole ZPD"?
>Putting a case-solver in a movie about solving a crime is not a tiny detail either.
No, but "Why police couldn't find the mammals first" isn't a big deal, that's why only you complain about it right now.
>This doesnt ruin the movie, it just adds to the mediocrity it has in general.
Oh, I see, you just don't like the movie, that's like you opinion, man.
>>82826691
Then why only ZPD have ZERO clues about the otter? Just one pic from a camera, obviously, yuor "easy to use cameras" thing can't record the otter in the limo or with the nudist animals.
>>82826691
I think Manchas being on camera for that was bullshit though. I'd rather the movie just have one situation that was way to easy to fix thanks to the cameras. Otterton being found like that wouldn't make things better because of consistency, it would just add more bullshit.
But if you accept the Manchas stuff, then it's still just them getting super lucky. The same luck wasn't there for finding the otter.
tell me, what is wrong with this?
>>82826876
>then why not "In Zootopia, finding missing mammals is a hard task for the whole ZPD
We saw how easy the cameras were to manipulate when Judy and Nick used them. We also saw how competent and logic the people in this world is. That they couldnt find the mammals is a fuck-up of the writers.
>Why police couldn't find the mammals first" isn't a big deal
It's actually the whole point of the movie. Is what proves Judy to be a true policeman. It's the whole plot. And it only works if you ignore the cameras that recorded every kidnapping.
>Then why only ZPD have ZERO clues about the otter?
Because the cops never went to see the traffic cameras, wich is my problem from the beggining.
>>82826830
I don't think the nudist stuff was necessarily pandering. Animated kids movies put in nudity/shit jokes when they have animals to work with because it gets the "haha, fart joke" reaction from kids but isn't 2lewd since there aren't human bits.
>>82826902
Cars is still making them money somehow. And that lightsaber still looks kind of dumb.
>>82826902
They didnt use a photo of Scarlett Johanson, wich is stupid.
The Rey Star Wars picture should've been in both boys and girls section, Kylo Ren looks like shit there and it's a villain in a line of heroes.
>>82818748
I feel like Gazelle is gonna kind of make this movie dated in the future
>>82821928
This honestly
>>82827148
couldnt even squeeze him to the dance party.
maybe there's something more on BR, fella is so cool.
>>82827111
Kind of makes it feel dated now. Shakira isn't very relevant, especially not with little kids and she isn't a strong enough voice actor to carry the character- no Robin Williams Genie. I guess that makes it better that she does almost nothing the whole film, though.
At least they didn't go full-on "make a ton of pop culture references as jokes." There were a few in there like with the DVDs, but nothing that felt over the top.
>>82827013
We saw how easy the cameras were to manipulate when Judy and Nick used them. We also saw how competent and logic the people in this world is. That they couldnt find the mammals is a fuck-up of the writers
Easy to manipulate cameras doesn't matter if there aren't enough clues and staff to use them properly, and if there aren't enough cameras, it doesn't work because they can´t find the missings mammals, I already told you this when I say security cameras can't cover everything
>Because the cops never went to see the traffic cameras, wich is my problem from the beggining.
You are just overthinking it to much, yes the police is incompetent and/or can't find mammals early, and only Judy can, but you still ignore other factors, like the corruption and mayor and bellwether influence, heck, probably Bellwether helps to hide evidence and only allow Judy to find the truth because 1) This affect Lionheart 2) Makes little preys like she and Judy looks cool and 3) Start the Predator/Pray conflict with fear.
But of course, if you ignore Bellwether, it only sounds like a weak plot where ZPD is incompetent and Judy saves the day.
Nick's character arc is rushed, causing him to feel like a plot device.
Also, Nick is boring design-wise compared to everyone else, including his fellow fox Gideon.
i'm pretty sure there are shops for Fennecs at the night district.
>>82818748
the fans
>>82827570
Yeah. Judy works better as a main character, but it would have been nice to get more time with Nick so his growth didn't feel so rushed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04ofuzvc7m4
>>82827570
>Nick
>boring
fug u
>>82828265
These fries im making are going to be delicious with all this salt
>>82828265
>>82818748
It exists.
>>82828265
$970,831,439
WE ARE NUMBER 5
BITCHES!!
>>82828654
i'm moving to the new one, here.
let's celebrate.
>>82828714
How the hell did Minions make more than DM2? It's just a spin off
>>82819820
He's part of the extended universe, Anon.
>>82828654
This isn't a general. OP actually had something to discuss.
>>82828844
Sequels/spin-offs of movies that were well received tend to make more money than their predecessor.
>>82828844
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4V6rvcLsk8
you dont know the real power of marketing.
we're going to take down the King, now!
>>82818748
I really hate characters succeeding off of almost random chance.
Also Judy's speech and the entire conflict around it was pretty dumb.
It still amazes me how well this did with barely any marketing.
And it hurts to think how well it would've done if it actually had marketing. Would it have beat Frozen?
>>82828993
not really, but it would definately defeat Yellow Menace.
>>82818748
I do not like how they got rid of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJWVoQ3vU0U
I didn't like that we only saw mammals. Reptiles and birds would have been cool, reptiles especially. I can understand not wanting to handle birds, since without resorting to the feathers-are-fingers thing they'd be tough to integrate, but reptiles would have fit right in. It just seems like an odd design choice.
>>82829602
Someone has to be on the bottom of the food chain...
>>82829689
That's what insects and fish are for.
Although that makes me think of something else: what to aquatic mammals like whales do in Zootopia's universe?
>>82829770
most likely didnt happen, like apes.
>>82829602
I got the impression that only mammals evolved to be intelligent. A sequel could just go "hey, these guys were right over here the whole time" but it'd be weird that there was no mention/reference to non-mammals in the film.
>>82828880
It would have made a perfect easter egg though.
Did Nick remind anyone of Shawn from Psych?
>>82819840
I respectfully disagree
>>82819840
One thing that I find is always a shame, with 3D films, is that the concept art always looks so nice, with vivid colors, artstyles that really "pop" visually in an extremely satisfying way, and the CGI always ends up looking kinda disappointing in comparison.
>>82818748
It was a really cool idea wasted on soapbox dialogue. If it had just been an animal buddy cop movie where they learned to respect eachother it would have been great.
But it's like someone looked at a bunch of point in the script and demanded that the writers remind the audience the movie was about racism.
>>82818757
This, the furpandering was awful.
And yet I do want to fuck a bunny. I fell for it.
- Not long enough. Everything felt rushed.
- Gazelle as a whole.
- Main villain's reveal.
- Judy's apology scene.
- Fox repellent only briefly addressed.
- Stupid fucking dance party to a stupid song that was shoehorned into the movie.
- Not enough character building outside of Judy, namely Nick. I get that she's the main character, but the supporting cast was pretty good, too.
>>82824927
>Being this salty furfag
wow, youre beyond help, furfag.
go fuck your rabbit then.
i hunt & eat rabbit every saturday.
and fap to Elsa & Anna r34 every saturday night.
>>82819137
There's already a zoochan... but it isn't about zootopia...
>>82832981
>and fap to Elsa & Anna r34 every saturday night.
how does it feel to have such shit taste your tongue is literally a turd anon
>>82822212
I always think Judy's face is too cute that she is almost in the uncanny valley
>>82824071
You mean the scene when Lion and the doctor guy just walked in and explain everything?
>>82833636
>Not knowing judy hopps is shittier than shit.
>>82824180
The traffic cam can't even tell you that the otter was last seen in the nudist camp. There aren't that many cams I guess.
Though the fact that there is a convenient traffic cam at the cable car entrance is too convenient.
Anyway all these would lead to the inevitable question of how Lionheart's dogs caught all animals before the news broke out
It seems the only way they can do that is to have a behavior recognition program in a centralized CCTV system
>>82827462
Yeah man I agree with you
The whole "only Judy and Nick can find them" thing is really too impossible when ZPD is shown to have so much tech, manpower and time. It would be like Judy fighting a team of rhinos and still win.
I get what the other guy was saying "Judy is a true policeman" but to have one person outperform the system so much is unreasonable.
But I didn't spot this problem in theater though. Guess I am not a logical person
>>82834110
Lionheart probably had mammals spy through the traffic cams as well. I can only imagine he had a system set up as soon as it became regular.
>>82834110
Maybe Bellwether started with targeting predators where they were unlikely to be seen, and would somehow anonymously tip Lionheart off? He would probably start having people monitor the traffic cams shortly after that and handle things without her interventioncould also be why none of the missing animals were found with the cams- Lionheart either blocked access or faked tapes for areas where the predators went savage.
After Lionheart is successfully screwed, she starts going after animals in public places so they attack others, so it isn't like she couldn't have done that and made it public knowledge earlier if she wanted to.
>>82834552
Predator spies I imagine. So the predators have a secret party within the city. Guess sheeps weren't the only ones making plans
Again this leads to the question of what a ballsy villain Bellwether was and how she was underused. The taller you have to build Lionheart you must build Bellwether even taller.
The question is, how likely is this to kill the Lion?
Also how come Lion King did so well yet only got a direct to video sequel?
>>82835359
Not very, since a lot of theaters have started to drop it.
And it's because Disney hasn't been big on feature film sequels in the past, and would just pass off bigger franchises to shit studios to crank out some garbage instead.
>yfw they do that for Z2
>>82818748
>She graduated in the police academy in Zootopia.
>They make her act like she's never been there when she moves back.
>>82835359
Actually, Lion King had two offcial theatrical re-release, technically we already kill the king,
Once again, Japan is our only hope (and Turkey, but they have low numbers)
>>82818757
>>82818748
>>82835521
Yeah why hasnt she ever been to the city?
But imagine this:
>As the train enters the city Judy just stare at her phone like she has seen the Palm tree, the rainforest, the grand central a thousand times already
>>82835521
>She graduated in the police academy in Zootopia.
Who says the police academy is in the city? It could be somewhere suburban, and probably is since they'd need cheap land for all the obstacle courses and stuff.
>>82835859
NickxJudy not being canon is the best part, though.
>>82836230
Agreed. What we get is ok. Make them kiss is cringe inducing.
>>82818748
That it ended, and the joy in my life decreased tremendously in that moment.
>>82823526Elsa isn't real.
>>82836870
So is your waifu Judy hopps
>>82818748
I left the theater feeling worse about society as a whole than when I entered.
>>82818748
Needed more females.
>>82836365
Friends with benefits
>>82818748
The lack of monkeys and apes. It's a mammal universe and there isn't a single simian.
>>82839080
2close2humans
>>82838946
Best friends get the best benefits.
>>82807445
The thread is dead
Long live the thread
>>82826506
Didney consumerism
>>82818748
I'm jealous of it's success because I have severe issues.
>>82818748
The fact that they marketed it like the Gazelle was going to be in it as a main character.
>>82828966
Can someone draw Judy and Nick in the place of Scar at the cliff with Mufasa?
>>82832847
What? Did you want a minute long spiel about fox repellant?
Gideon and Nick should have been the same character.
>>82841690
Would be too forced. Gideon's reforming is a nice little aside
>>82818748
The size difference between rodents and judy
I have to wonder if Judy's buck teeth are the result of years of orthadontia. Did Judy wear braces?
>>82841941
Nick has too much complexity and Gideon too little. I'd like to see the relationship stem from rivalry and true personal differences rather than prejudice, because that would be realistic.
>>82841690
Expect to get a lot of hate.
But I don't disagree. Their arcs together mesh pretty well. They start innocent, get muzzled, become an asshole to Judy. Then the timeskip happens and it explains why they are such a cunt to Judy for so long. The movie progresses, they're shown as good people and settle in the cop position at the end.
They'd either need to use Gideon's design or a hybrid between the two of them, since Nick never has enough size to make it work.
>>82842011
I had someone shove my face into the dirt and throw my gymnastics medal into the sewer for having buck teeth. Then someone threw my bike into the same sewer because I ran from him when he chased me, I sucked.
>>82818748
There's only one thing that soured the movie for me.
Judy ran away from her responsibilities, and only came back when she happened upon the silver bullet that would solve all the problems.
I would have much, much preferred it if she had made up the resolution to go back to the city before she discovered the nighthowlers.
As is, I'll never know if Judy would have been strong enough to get back up after falling and failing.
>>82842026
The hybrid would work. The rivalry would turn into love a la Leia and Han. The prejudice would be broken down over time instead of a shoehorned "Btw some people feel bad about being raycis" 2 minute scene that ends up just shitting on people in the south who make our wonderful corn.
>>82842143
>only came back when she happened upon the silver bullet that would solve all the problems.
This is what you are supposed to do. Honor is shit.
>>82842234
Who said anything about honor? I just wanted her to be able to get over the rainy day without an easy answer. It would have been nice to see Jude being stronger.
>>82842367
Judy would have been a stronk womyn though and no one likes those. She's a solid protagonist through ambiguity.
>>82819178
Furries don't sit in a hot ass movie theater in fursuits. Most people in there are children or regular people.
>>82832847
What was wrong about Judy's apology scene? I thought that scene was great and done perfectly.
>>82842143
Good point. Doing it the way that they did didn't detract from my enjoyment of the movie, but that would have been nice to see.
Hopefully any sequel will have the conflict resolved through strength of will instead of random revelations.
>>82842189
We've got a few super racists down here, but blatant racism is a New England thing. Nobody from the South would go on TV and say black people are super predators. Most racists down here just let it silently simmer in public so they don't get stabbed.Corn is more Midwest-y. We're tobbaco/rice/peanuts with some fruits and vegetables here and there.
>>82842528
Maybe Nick was too quick to let her forgive him? Love the dumb bunny bit tho
he was saving for that 'cycle
>>82842749
I think he was hurt, but just wanted her to apologize and recognize that she had been wrong. She was a jerk but he still cared about her and all that jazz.
~kissu ~kissu
>>82842835
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>>82842756
I love that tiny fox
>>82835779
Rare Spurdo :D
saved :DD
>>82842900
yeah. he's big on the inside.
>>82842818
Yeah, I can see that. I just felt like it was a bit rushed, but then lots of sequences felt like they would've been lengthened if it wasn't a kid's film
>>82818748
Just saw the movie today. Loved it. However there is something that I realized was missing from the film after watching it. Where are the reptiles and birds? All the animals in mammals were mammals. Were mammals the only animals who evolved and gained intelligence while the rest stayed in their savage states? Are those savage animals eaten as food?
Now let me be clear: I still loved the film. And what I wrote up there isn't really criticism. It's more like they're questions the film posed (perhaps unintentionally) that I would like answered.
On one hand, I think Nick and Judy have a lot of chemistry and would be cute together.
On the other hand, if a sequel rolled around and they didn't get together, we'd get to see half the fans and even some of the of the voice actors/directors be upset.
So cuteness, or shitstorm? I really don't know which would make me happier.
>>82843213
>>82843235
Awww.
>>82843164
They intentionally only had mammals in the movie. Originally birds/reptiles were explicitly unintelligent and used as food but they removed it so they didn't pigeonhole themselves for a possible sequel.
IMO its better that its just mammals, if it was ALL animals it would just be another generic 'talking animal movie' like KFP, but by limiting it to mammals it feels more bounded and 'real'
>>82818760
This, I didn't think her voice matched her appearance.
The only real complaint I have was that they had to wave the blueberries in your face a second time right before the big "oh no is Judy kill?" scene.
In my opinion the exchange in the car was a perfect and subtle set up. But the second they dropped them in the museum I immediately thought "oh of course he's gonna replace the Nighthowler bullets", and I heard at least 4 other people in the theatre whisper the same thing. If they had left that out, I don't think anyone in the audience wouldn't have understood it.
I'm just gonna leave this adorable piece of trivia here.
I was honestly disappointed by the length of the film... like everyone else seems to be saying....it really needed to belonger. More back story would have been nice.
And, there wasn't enough finnick.... I fucking love that little bastard...
i didn't like how they didn't go more in def on nick back story.
>>82843281
Nah, it's distracting if anything
I wasn't a big fan of the ending dialog between Nick and Judy
>Sly Bunny
>Dumb Fox
>You know you love me
>Do I know that? Yes, yes I do
It was just off to me. If they wanted ambiguity in romance, they could have done it better
>>82843282
>>82843314
Kingdom Hearts 3 really needs a Zootopia world in it..
>>82844689
>giveup.jpg
>>82844698
Never.
>>82843836
Got the image from the film up to compare and it looks pretty similar. You gonna start drawing non-ref stuff soon?
>>82818748
They left the fundamental question of what do the predators eat unanswered.
>>82826830
I still thought the nudist camp scene was too meta to be funny. Maybe it would've worked better if the animals actually had genitalia, or at least buttcracks.
>>82824923
Only if Judy herself provided the milk.
>>82844900
Not with that attitude!
>>82823526
hhhhnnngggg
>>82819799UUUU
>>82818748
shakira a contrived shit
>>82845104
Hate how she was shoehorned in
the story is formulaic shit
the characters are smug asshole
the jokes are shit (DMV RUN BY SLOTH BECAUSE THEY WERE SO SLOW, LOLOL GET IT?GET IT?)
the music is shit
the twist was predictable and shit
got bored halfway through, then I sneak to watch BvS. Much better movie
>>82845104
>>82845590
I didn't mind it. It felt to me like the least offensive pop music intrusion in a Disney film in a long time.
>>82845104
>>82845590
Shakira's character was supposed to originally have a much more critical role.
Like she was supposed to be some sort of rebellious activist according to the artbook, and near the climax of the story was supposed to perform with tiger backup dancers as the ultimate show of defiance.
Of course this was back in the original universe which was basically an apartheid hellhole.
>>82845693
I'm so glad that they didn't go with that universe.
That picture though... I really wish that I could draw stuff like that. Found a respect for artists after all the stuff I've seen from this film
>>82819185
you are wrong and no one else think like you.
Only you jerked off to that scene.
The only thing I dislike about it is the city itself is largely unexplored in the movie. The train scene showcases the wonderful variety of the different districts, but what we see of them is fairly underwhelming. The scenes in Tundratown were for the most part in the back of a limousine or at Mr. Big's mansion, Sahara Square was just another city block, and the only district we really got our teeth into was the Rainforest District with the Mr. Manchas chase scene.
I would love a sequel for the chance to explore more of the city and really soak in the scenery.
>>82845693
Where did you guys find out about the original plot of the movie? I'm sure you've guys talked about it before but I only just saw it so I've been avoiding these threads
>>82843282
Thanks doc
>>82846096
There's a making-of documentary on youtube somewhere, but I forget what it's called. Maybe just search making of zootopia on YT and look for a vid that's around 40 mins long.
Also there's a shitton of original plot stuff in the official artbook.
>>82846152
Cool thanks
>>82824923
I'd drink Nick's mad milk
>>82846096
>>82846152
The documentary is called Imagining Zootopia.
what are the chances of a Holliday special, now that everyone is hungry for more?
someone give me a nice phone wallpaper of nick
>>82846702
>Zootopia holiday special
That sounds comfy as fuck.
>>82847143
>zootopian Christmas carol
>spirit of Christmas that have yet to come isfinnick
>>82846702
>>82847143
I want to draw some comfy Zootopia christmas stuff. Why does it have to be summer?!
>>82847419
>manger scene
>Nick and Judy are playing Mary and joseph
>Finnick dressed up and playing the role of baby Jesus
I NEED THIS
>>82818748
The movie felt too quick paced.
And Judy's ass could've been bigger.
>>82847760
>The movie felt too quick paced.
Yeah
>And Judy's ass could've been bigger.
Fight me in real life you fuckboy.
>>82824393
You should google mountain goats anon
>>82847760
but judy's ass was already huge
>>82847792
>>82847844
this is what Judy should've looked like desu
