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Reminder to mourn of what things could've been.

>>82811729
hahah, funny joke anon, Echo is dead

Echo is dead ;-;

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>>82811729

Goodnight, sweet Aresko.

Welp, this thread started out depressing as hell. Let's try and steer this away from the sadness.

Alright you guys, what's gonna happen in Rogue One?

>>82811859
Miss ya buddy, you might not have been all that smart, but you were loyal and wore a great uniform.

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>>82811982
Not-Kyle Katarn and not-Jan Ors will fug

>>82811982
We bitch about the movie not meeting out expectations

>>82812370
So perfect /co/ then?

I just can't wait to see all the Imperial weaponry being used and seeing it with modern tech.

Reading Bloodlines and there's something bugging the shit out of me.

They keep talking about Leia murdering Jabba. Sure she and her friends got themselves into that situation, though they did try to cut a deal with Jabba. And it is true that she killed him when he was unarmed, though in it's certainly mitigating circumstances when the weapon she used to kill him was the slave chain he'd attached to her, plus he was trying to murder her friends. And it is true that they didn't try to go to the authorities. But seriously, that guy claimed they could go to Mos Eisley security? The guys protecting and serving the hive of scum and villainy where you can straight up shoot a guy first under the table and just toss a few creds at the bartender for the "mess"? Those crack agents of law and order?

And what would be the charges? Recovering someone the Hutts made an example of due to not paying back a debt? Feeding wildlife?

Plus this is Hutt Space. They own the dman planet, and likely whatever passes for security there which was implied by Gui-Gon to BE the Hutts in terms of Watto welching on a bet. Jabba in the Clone Wars era was possibly the most powerful Hutt, able to authorize the use of their hyperspace lanes to foreign militaries and his capture by Maul was enough to secure the allegiance of the Hutt Clans. Can you even arrest a Hutt in Hutt Space without that Hutt having fallen in disfavor of their Clans? If you're the cop making the arrest wouldn't you just be ensuring you and your family are made an example of? And that's before you calculate that the Empire, knowing where Han is, would have eyes on Tatooine. Trying to go to Mos Eisley cops would just alert Imperial spies.

I mean the guy is technically right about it being an illegal death but in an area of space where that loses all meaning. Like Han's actions it was certainly a matter of self-defense.

>>82812493
>that guy claimed they could go to Mos Eisley security?
That makes no sense, that's like going to the Columbian police and ratting out a drug dealer, at the end of the day the only person going to be punished is you.

>>82812493
Welcome to politics. The actual circumstances aren't as important as the strict technicalities that can be used in your favor.

>LUKE SKYWALKER IS A MASS MURDERER!
>but he was destroying a weapon that blew up one inhabited planet and could be used to destroy even more
>SEMANTICS! IF SKYWALKER DIDN'T LIKE THE DEATH STAR HE SHOULD HAVE SUBMITTED A PETITION DIRECTLY TO THE IMPERIAL HOME OFFICE BUT INSTEAD HE MURDERED MILLIONS OF HARD-WORKING LOYAL IMPERIAL CITIZENS IN COLD BLOOD! WHERE IS THE JUSTICE?

>>82811765

No he isn't, did you watch The Bad Batch?

>>82812493
For some reason I remember that a bit differently. I read it as Rinnrivin saying 'it's not like you could have gone to the authorities for help." He didn't care for Jabba, and that's a big reason why he's going to Leia with it, so he can show her his gratitude for removing such a bad part of his life from the galaxy. He didn't seem like the kind of character to care about the whole "legal" thing, since he was, you know, running a huge cartel to rival a Hutts'.

>>82812493
But no one claimed that. It was a story about how the legal authorities aren't always the best options available.

>>82812640
Yes i did

a cyborg life is no life at all, for all intents and purposes Echo is dead

>>82812493
How pissed are the Hutts at Leia, know that they know that Jabba was killed by her?

>>82812592
First I was surprised Mos Eisley even HAD cops, but the more they kept talking about it as murder the more it bugged me.

>>82812618
Politics how? Murder was space legal in Hutt Space which the NR, the Empire, and old Republic had no jurisdiction in. The only ones with grounds to care are the Hutt Clans but the book describes their grip as broken.

When Casterfo talks about the Rebellion committing terrorism or mass murder those were just his opinions. He wasn't stating any potential charges against Luke or Leia. While Casterfo's personal views CAN be stretched to HIS politics, that's about as far as it can be stretched.

>>82812686
The book repeatedly refers to it as blackmail evidence.

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>>82812792
>inb4

>>82812845
Supposedly quite pissed to the point where they were VERY serious about combing the desert for evidence of who killed Jabba, but then they worked to suppress it because they didn't want the circumstances of his death known and making them look weak. But the book also suggests that the Hutt's power is greatly diminished.

>>82812858
Is that a good game? I like cyberpunk, so would I enjoy this?

>>82812792
He was born and raised to serve the cause of others. Becoming a cyborg is more a lateral shift for a clone.

>>82812848
>He wasn't stating any potential charges against Luke or Leia
It also wasn't Casterfo suggesting that Luke was a mass murderer, it was one of the other pro-Empire senators.

>The book repeatedly refers to it as blackmail evidence.
Rinnrivin still uses it to show his approval of what happened, despite also using it as a way to bring down Leia if necessary.

>>82812922
Many people say that the first one, Deus Ex is superior, but Human Revolution is also good.

>>82812908
>that the Hutt's power is greatly diminished
How so? was Jabba that important?

>>82812941
I mean, they're wrong. HR is much better written.

>>82812959
Well yeah. Dooku and the Jedi were both trying to get him to allow their armies to move through Hutt Space and later Maul captured Jabba to secure the Hutt Clan's allegiance to his criminal empire. That's pretty good evidence of his power.

>>82812940
>It also wasn't Casterfo suggesting that Luke was a mass murderer, it was one of the other pro-Empire senators.
Yes he did, though he didn't call Luke out personally. It was early in the book when Leia first learned about Casterfo's collection of Imperial paraphernalia. He calls the Rebels terrorists and talks about all the civilian contractors who died on the Death Star. Leia becomes suitably pissed off.

>>82812848
>Politics how? Murder was space legal in Hutt Space which the NR, the Empire, and old Republic had no jurisdiction in.
You're thinking about it logically. It's not about what makes sense, it's about how you can make the other person look bad. It's not about whether or not Leia was justified in what she did, it's about making her seem dangerous. It's all about spin.

>>82812959
We never really heard about the other Hutts and their power. We saw Ziro in TCW, and now Grakkus in the comics, but neither of them were really as great as Jabba was. All we ever heard was the general Hutt Space, never what went into it's power besides Jabba. Plus he had some big shoes to fill with power and authority that the others just weren't able to match, which brought them down. Much like how the Empire started falling apart after Endor.

>>82813088
And yet that is the point. They did a lot of skeezy shit during the Rebellion against the Empire. Casterfo lists their more infamous actions.

You're oveplaying the effect of twenty+ year old history, much of which is already known and already been dealt with. Would the killing of a known gangster involved in countless acts of murder, trafficking, slavery (nevermind that slavery is legal in Hutt Space) and when the evidence of what you did involves you in a slave outfit and killing him with your own slave chains? You're seriously going to spin that as a horrendous act unbecoming of a Senator which she wasn't at the time? You're going to use that to unseat one of the leaders of a powerful political faction? Most people would look at the evidence and realize the majority would praise her, and she'd actually get SYMPATHY points for what he had done to her.

How's that logic working for you?

>>82813179
We know the other Hutt family heads were all more or less along the same level of power as Jabba, though he was apparently the most powerful among them. Then again, we don't know what's happened with them since TCW. For all we know the other Hutt families have lost their power and Jabba's the only real bigshot around by the time of ROTJ.

>>82811890
You're Jeff Vader?

>>82813300
Why are you getting mad at me? I'm not Casterfo, I'm not the one actually trying to paint what Leia did as a bad thing. Point is, this is how political spin works. The people you're spinning it to don't know the whole story, only what you're spinning to them. You get to control the narrative and make it look how you want it to look.

>>82813300
>How's that logic working for you?
Didn't he just tell you that it's not about logical thinking?

>>82813426
Not mad, just saying. The logic comment is about the setup, not throwing anything in your face.

You're also treating spin as if only one side controls the narrative. The Centrists might eat it up but Leia's own faction? And again it's not like her history is that hidden. She's known to be married to Han Solo, a famous/infamous smuggler who had a sizable public bounty on his head for much of the events of the OT.

>>82813443
>That comic panel
What? Being mean means giving swirlies and sealing a kid's money, not that.

>>82813457
And? That's his point which nobody is obligated to take at 100% face value. Especially since that isn't how spin works. While spin may try to manipulate others by playing to their emotions it is still a calculated move on the part of those who use it. You better believe they, if cautious, reason that out. There is a definite logic in HOW you would try to use such spin.

It's also overplaying the notion of sheeple. Spin is about trying to control the context and the other side will be doing that too.

>>82813511
Her history is hidden, apparently, since no one besides the shadier side of 'business owners' and the main characters of the OT know that Leia killed Jabba. Hell, she could have just said that the sail barge exploding killed him, to hide her guilt.

>Han
The book and a couple other things in the new canon make it a point that people think of Han as a war hero and ignore the whole seedy past with a huge wanted bounty thing.

>>82813599
The death of Jabba is hidden. Darth Vader's true identity was hidden. Her marriage to Han and Luke being her brother are public knowledge. It seems much of her record in the Rebellion is known.

I don't think Leia actually hid her past with Jabba, she just never had any point of talking about it. She's very open to Casterfo, a member of the opposition party, not just showing him the hologram but detailing her part in it.

And the bit about Han just shows how much people have already chosen to overlook.

>>82813511
>The Centrists might eat it up but Leia's own faction?
It depends on how you sell it. You can easily play it as Leia having heroically killed a horrible being who had enslaved her and was at that moment trying to execute her friends. You can't really blame her... but at the same time, what she did goes into a legal gray area.

Fighting against the Empire is one thing, but here she was part of a team that infiltrated the palace of a Hutt lord, who is technically part of a government unaffiliated with the rebels or the Empire (loose use of the term "government" but you know what I mean; also, having trade deals with a government doesn't necessarily make them politically affiliated, see US and China as one major example). It'd be one thing if Jabba had captured them, but they went to his palace to rescue someone who was being held by Jabba due to a legitimate grievance- Han botched a job, Jabba warned him and gave him plenty of time to compensate him for it, he failed and now Jabba was making good on his threat. Luke made a token attempt to negotiate, but they all knew it wouldn't work and all along planned to use force to get Han out.

On moral grounds, can you fault them? No, you can't. But on legal grounds, it's a little shakier. That could potentially make even Leia's own backers reluctant to defend what happened because even though she did kill a real bastard and the chance of any legitimate attempts to negotiate Han's release succeeding were zero, the whole thing is a diplomatic mine field.

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>>82813560
>Vader and the 501st dragging Padawans to the bathrooms and giving them swirlies
>In a deleted scene Commander Appo gave Bail Organa an atomic wedgie before he fled

>>82813787
It sort of highlights the problem with the senate to begin with- procedures taking precedence over what's right. It's still weird that everything she did as a rebel isn't as tricky as the Jabba incident, but then again the senate as a whole doesn't see toppling the Empire as a bad thing but would probably see getting involved with the Hutts as something that didn't need to be done.

>>82813787
Again, it's not like only one side is going to try to play events. For instance Trump can say anything he likes, even that he could kill someone and still win, and his faction doesn't budge (it's not clear though how much of this is people voting for him as a means of voting against the Republic establishment they are displeased with) but that hardly makes him loved by either his enemies in his own party, let alone in the other parties. Talking about the legality is pointless since we don't know what laws, if any, apply in Hutt Space. Leia also wasn't a Senator, or a member of any government. Plus it was a time of war when Jabba was collaborating with the enemy.Even if the deal Vader cut with Jabba in the comics isn't public knowledge it would hardly be difficult for the Rebel spies to pick up how freely the Empire is moving people and money through Hutt Space. And again the Rebellion was engaged in what could be considered terrorism and piracy against a government. That's how it could be spun. But the Rebellion one. The notion of the legality and validity of their actions was solved over twenty years ago. You really think people are clamoring to dig that issue up again? You think it would sour people against Leia? Her own faction? Her constituency that elected her?

You're forgetting that they actually used scaling escalation against Jabba. They sent in spies first to ascertain his position. Then droids with a deal. Then Leia to try to sneak Han out. Even then Luke tried negotiation. Leia had free opportunity to assassinate Jabba as Bouush. Whatever else you say about them they did try to work with Jabba to free Han.

Again we have no clue about the legalities in Hutt Space. It's outside of the Republics jurisdiction old and new, the Empire's jurisdiction outside of any threats they make against Jabba, so even if we DID know the laws of the region it wouldn't apply in any jurisdiction with the Hutt's themselves largely out of power.

>Pablo's China visit
They really want that China audience.

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>>82813018
>>82813179
>>82813324
Man, I hope Rotta will be able to shift things for the right for them... once he's of age for a Hutt. How long can that take anyway?

>>82814271
He's literally been forgotten.

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>>82814288
I have hope.

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For the discussion in the last thread about how the Force might act in the degenerate era of the universe - i.e. the time when everything is dying - I think the old egyptian concept of the end times would fit. IIRC in their belief, after everything is done and dead, the ground forces of the universe will be in the same state as they were before the first beings came into existence by themselves.

Basically that after entropy it's possible another big bang could happen and the Force gets into creation of life again, or comes into existence as it came before.

>>82814065
>Plus it was a time of war when Jabba was collaborating with the enemy.Even if the deal Vader cut with Jabba in the comics isn't public knowledge it would hardly be difficult for the Rebel spies to pick up how freely the Empire is moving people and money through Hutt Space.
As I just said, trade deals aren't necessarily the same as political affiliation. That makes Hutt Space's relation to greater galactic politics a gray area, especially since only one of the two sides is an actual government- it's not like TCW, where there were two governments trying to get the Hutts as allies (and even if the Republic's deal with the Hutts made them allies, it definitely didn't make them friends).

>You really think people are clamoring to dig that issue up again? You think it would sour people against Leia? Her own faction? Her constituency that elected her?
It would if you consider that the mess with Jabba was one they technically created. The issue between Han and Jabba was Han's business, unrelated to the war. He got himself into it- hell, even Rieekan thought that Han leaving them to pay Jabba back and clear up that whole business was a good idea, even if it meant not having Han around for a bit.

So you have a situation where Luke and Leia meddled in personal matters between Han and Jabba- again, unrelated to the war- and at the end of it a Hutt who had no part of the war is now dead.

You keep trying to see it from the moral standing, but in politics it doesn't always play out that way. What Luke and Leia did has a number of dangerous technicalities that could be viewed as poor diplomatic judgement, and at worst a legal fiasco.

It's true there's a lot we don't know, and the Hutts themselves probably don't constitute a formal government, but that's why this whole thing could be seen as a big, shaky gray area, from a diplomatic standpoint. It all seems justified to us, but depending on how this is presented, it may not be so cut and dry to the senate.

>>82813846
>Palpatine: "To cheat detention is the power only one has achieved, but if we work together, I know nobody will tell on us."
>Vader: "I pledge myself... to your teachings."
>Palpatine: "Good. Good... The force is strong with you. A powerful bully you will become. Henceforth, you shall be known as Darth... Vader."
>Vader: "Thank you my master."
>Palpatine: "Rise... Because the Council did not trust you, my young apprentice, I believe you are the only Jedi with no knowledge of this plot. When the Jedi learn what has transpired here, they will tell on us, along with all the football team."
>Vader: "I agree. The Council's next move will be against the jocks."
>Palpatine: "Every single Jedi, including your friend Obi-Wan Kenobi, are now fucking nerds."
>Vader: "I understand master."
>Palpatine: "We must move quickly. The Jedi are pussies. If they are not all bullied, we will have detention without end. First, I want you to go to the Jedi Temple. We will catch them off balance. Do what must be done, Lord Vader. Do not hesitate. Show no mercy. Only then will you be strong enough with the Dark Side to ask Padmé to prom."
>Vader: "What about the other Jedi spread across the school?"
>Palpatine: "Their betrayal will be dealt with. After you have swirlied all the Jedi in the Temple, go to the Mustafar system. Wipe out Viceroy Gunray and the other Chess Club members. Once more the jocks will rule the school! And... we shall get... wasted...

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Disney should really start doing some animated one-offs. The way they do some comic series.

>>82814461
>As I just said, trade deals aren't necessarily the same as political affiliation.
To the Rebellion they were. Those fuel miners in Rebels were working for the Empire. They stole those illegal disrupters. True they aren't the Alliance yet but you really think they decided, "Whelp we can't do that anymore" once they banded together? We saw in the Vader comics they were using automated ships to perform acts of piracy to support the Rebel cause.

And all of that is moot when a. Jabba is a criminal who b. was actively working against them. They weren't justified in going to save Han? When Jabba ordered their execution they should have meekly accepted because he was a duly recognized authority in Hutt Space?

>It would if you consider that the mess with Jabba was one they technically created. The issue between Han and Jabba was Han's business, unrelated to the war.

And did they go in as Rebels and declare him in contrivance of the authority of the Alliance? No. Going after them was their business, not the Rebellions. When Jabba moved against them they responded. He and his organization got the worst end of the encounter. The most Leia ever said was that she had powerful friends, and you know what? I don't think she meant any Rebel fleets. I think she meant exactly what was about to happen.

>You keep trying to see it from the moral standing

No, I'm considering it as an event that happened to a crime lord on his crime boat at his crime planet within his crime space.

>but in politics it doesn't always play out that way.

And AGAIN the politics is not nearly as one sided as you keep trying to make it out to be. Just as there is not one way to view the events of what happened, there is not one way to spin it. There is not one political faction that would be involved.

>>82814461
>and at worst a legal fiasco
Why are we talking about the law in Hutt Space? Did the Hutts ever file a grievance against Leia with the New Republic? They know it was her, and you know what? They've moved to suppress the knowledge. This isn't even a political issue between the Hutts and the New Republic let alone a legal one. They're crime lords. They don't use the law, they make it with bounty hunters.

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>>82814798
That's good work man, I chuckled heartily.

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>>82814798
>Sheev is the ultimate Chad
Love it.

>>82814895
That picture offends me. Mara Jade HAETS Luke in that trilogy of books.She barely accepts being a contact by the end after going through a harrowing adventure together. At no point is there even a budding romance.

>>82814984
Don't worry, it's a poster. That means it just shows something to reel in viewers.

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>>82813846
>"I think it's time for you to leave, neeeerrd!"

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Y'know what I noticed during the Order 66 arc? Tup never attacks Anakin

Was that in the program in the chip? Order 66: Kill all the Jedi (except Anakin, we need him)?

Also, Kix has Aurabresh on the side of his head. This is the best pic I could find, can anyone make it out?

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>>82815244
Here's another pic.

>>82815244
> Anakin Skywalker - Status: deceased
> Darth Vader - Status: lead

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>>82815321
Oh. Right.

>>82815244
I translated it before. I can't remember the exact wording but in effect it's "The only good droid is a dead one"

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I just finished Darth Plagueis. Such a good book.

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>>82815452
UHM EHH UMM EHH EHH is best boy.

>>82814951
I think the point is that it's shaky judgement on Leia's part and something that they would need to consider when choosing their First Senator

do you think a Sith master would ever disregard a potential apprentice if he was a dumb race, like a hutt, or something?

>>82815452
The first half or so is really good. The second half kind of meanders and it feels like Luceno put himself on autopilot. Once it gets to the events of TPM it just gets tedious.

>>82814913
>And AGAIN the politics is not nearly as one sided as you keep trying to make it out to be. Just as there is not one way to view the events of what happened, there is not one way to spin it. There is not one political faction that would be involved.
But that's my whole point- what you keep failing to understand is that I'm not actually making this argument myself, I don't actually believe this version of the events, I'm presenting an example of how it can be spun. This has been my entire point from the beginning, that there are ways in which the event can be interpreted to reflect negatively on Leia. Why do you think I've been using the term "gray area" so much?

>>82816093
> dumb race
> hutts

Yes, the strong slugs with big influential ties and money are dumb. Look up Beldarion, a Jedi Hutt. If it's good enough for Jedi it's good enough for Sith. SOMEONE must've seen the potential in Plagueis master who was a Bith.

>>82816093
Probably not, since they value strength. If there's some weird alien that has a lot of potential you bet it's getting trained up.

Though I think some physical demands might have to be considered. A Hutt isn't going to be able to move very quickly, for example.

>>82816051
I can't see it personally. It all comes down to some old record that shows her as a, let's be honest her, pretty much a Hutt sex slave (Gardulla, to our knowledge, never put Shmi in a bikini) versus her twenty year record as a senator in the New Republic. You know how this would be played out in real life?

"This is a vast Centrist conspiracy to defame a beloved Senator and smear her record with irrelevant accusations! Are we to condemn her for not respecting Jabba's property rights over her own body? Are we to treat this as some horrific crime committed over a criminal who had her in his power? Are these the kind of policies a Centrist leadership would hold dear? It would seem so. Now how do you feel about the military buildup they've been proposing? Or to protect YOUR rights over the rights of criminals? I think we need to start an investigation into the bank accounts of these lofty Centrist individuals because it sounds like they might be a little too comfortable with the criminal element of the galaxy. Let's follow the money!"


But Leia was already tired with the New Republic and it's inability to get anything done over it's own politics and procedures. She decided to start her own para-military organization with no oversight and wage a war against the First Order and presumably other threats to the Republic. Despite the questionable legality of this she isn't treated as a criminal, they don't send their fleets to stop her. Her support from them has been mixed but they do meet with her emissaries rather than arrest them.

At any rate we're free to disagree on this matter.

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>>82816237
Hutts can't move fast on even surfaces since they can't coat it with their slime, but we've got the Force for that. Ithorians have slower reflexes and reaction time but we've got Jedi masters and the like from them.

>>82816161
So this entire time you've been arguing over a mere possibility and using that mere possibility as, what, more probable than any other possibility raised?

This entire line of discussion started because it was questioned why Leia's actions were considered as potential blackmail, that would even have what she did labelled as murder, given the context of the events - which is itself separate from whatever the politics in the book says. Because the BOOK subscribes moral language to an act while at the same time showing Leia rejecting the label of murder or terrorism on any of the Rebellion's actions, or at least specific to their overall cause and things such as destroying the Death Star. Could Leia and Luke have tried to do anything else to free Han? Sure, but a stealth operation and trying to work with Jabba at first was their best bet given the Empire is aware Han's friends will try to rescue him (which has already been mentioned in this discussion)

You replied that it could be spun. The response was, "So what?" Just because one party tries to spin events doesn't mean they'll a. succeed or b. that you have to meekly accept their version of events and cannot fight it. No one ever said they couldn't spit it, just that spin it was hardly as certain as you made it out to be. Instead you keep going back to the spin. Okay, they can spin it. And Leia and her allies could have spun it back in their face.

>>82816244
Not the guy you're arguing with, but real life political campaigns have used more obscure and far pettier things as rallying cries against a candidate. The whole Swift Boat Veterans thing in 2004 was pretty much "yeah Kerry wasn't that big of a hero in Vietnam, we have no specifics and we never actually served with him but we're vets so vote on this issue and this issue alone and ignore everything else about his record"

>>82816360
Alright, at this point, I'm pretty convinced you're not actually reading what I'm saying. I give up.

>>82816379
How John Kerry dealt with the matter, and his overall lack of charisma, is more his problem. Clinton had his own issues but they don't call him Slick Willy for nothing. Bush had Mission Accomplished!, lack of WMDs, Obama has the Birther scandal among others. Hillary has Benghazi and the email thing.

Figuring out a pattern yet? EVERY politician deals with this shit. It doesn't always play out as your political opponents expect. It rarely shakes the people who already support you. And especially in terms of the Clintons you can play it as evidence that "they" are out to get you.

None of this plays to the original notion of why the book played up the Jabba incident as they chose too. This whole "politics" thing is some anon's sideshow argument.

>>82816408
That's alright, at this point I'm convinced you aren't sure what you're trying to say anyway.

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>it's a space politics episode

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>>82813443
And then Anakin uses the Force to to lower the tops of their cages making Padawan Pudding, much tastier than Jawa Juice.

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>>82816408
>>82816646
Were you two by any chance the guys arguing about Hutt hermaphrodism and titties before?

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Reminder to the thread that Ahsoka is getting a new Rebels era Lego figure. It will actually be her first figure without the shitty TCW faces they used previously.

>>82816765
No way, anon. I respect Pablo's genital knowledge which surpasses even Leeland Chee's on that topic.

>>82816777
checked
Odd choice of figs

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>>82816812
They've been doing that lately. Vader vs A-Wing comes with Sabine and Tarkin.

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>>82816777
>looks like shit
>fucked up scale
>only two new minifigs
>Ahsoka doesn't even white sabers

That'll be $90.

>>82816842
Oh God, that TIE looks great.

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>>82816777
here's a better view

>>82816777
>>82816842
Honestly, what families can even afford several of these monters?

>>82816878
*monsters
fuck I should sleep

>>82816878
Ones with a fairly normal amount of disposable income that don't have more than two children.

Or ones that have kids that are making something of themselves and earning money.

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>>82816911
I can't imagine earning that much money. Born poor and still struggling.

>>82816988
You can do it, Anon. Shoot for the moon, land amongst the stars. Get enough money to get an apartment in a nice neighborhood, find work there, then climb the ladder.

Give yourself a Darth title, /swco/.

>>82817079
No thank you. Creating OCs and filling threads with crap is a pathway that leads to /trash/. I don't want to pull a Phasma.

>>82817103
I'm not asking for OCs, you big dumb idiot.

If you were a Sith, what would your Darth name be?

>>82817121
That's OC bullsht. If you want to create a Sithsona go to /tv/ I'm sure they have all kinds of fun ideas.

>>82817121
http://www.seventhsanctum.com/generate.php?Genname=darthmaker

> Darth Killithering
> Darth Mutila
> Darth Slical
> Darth Snay
> Darth Stalkator
> Darth Suffagonist
> Darth Toxuest

I can't decide, they're all golden.

>>82817146
I bet your a hit at parties.

>>82817033
Can you stomach to spew these sugary sweet empty word shells in person are do you only spit them out when you can hind behind a tripcode?
Or are you really pathetic enough to believe that kind motivational bookmark quite wisdom?

>>82817103
>>82817146
Darth Icky and Darth Insanius aren't OC names but they're not taken yet.
I'm taking Insanius, though.

>>82817155
Better than the guy who drops his pants and takes a dump on the dance floor. This kind of bullshit is what got other generals kicked off /co/.

>>82817185
>Better than the guy who drops his pants and takes a dump on the dance floor

Right, you're the "jerk off in people's shoes" guy.

>>82817207
Is that a thing?

>>82817212
He's a tripfiend, you have to expect degeneracy.

>>82817212
I remember a greentext from somewhere about an Anon who jerked off into some girl's shoe at a party once.

Coulda been him for all I know.

>>82817227
That's tripfag to you, friend.

>>82817079
Darth Olomew

>>82817241
>I remember a greentext from somewhere about an Anon who jerked off into some girl's shoe at a party once.
Living the dream

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>>82817243
Ho my God

>>82817246
His illustrious posting career on /fit/ is under the name "fatman" so he sure is.

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>>82817033
Honestly, I'm just trying not to give in to despair and work on the belief that I am actually an employable workforce. But that's nothing that can be fixed in one thread, but thanks for your words.

>>82817315
You can do it, man. Keep saying it until it works.

The Force will be with you. Always.

>>82816878
Sadly they aren't even that many parts but 90 is very likely going to be the going rate. Licensed sets are usually jacked up in price.

Of course they will eventually go on sale and even clearance, which is less than reliable. However if you want the figs you have other avenues. Bricklink is your best friend in this regard, but if you don't like it (some don't) there's always Amazon. It'll cost more.

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Have there been any news since the season ended? Anything juicy in the comics?

>>82816874
>Blue sabers for Ahsoka
>Ezra using binoculars as hilt

>>82818476
Poe's comic is a prelude to TFA and is introducing Grakkus the Hutt (from the main Comic) to the Sequel Trilogy Era.

Vader's comic is ending, the droids and Aphra are looking like they will be dead very soon.

Han Solo's solo comic is starting soon, and Ani/Obi is about to end, but nobody was really talking about that because it was pretty uneventful outside of a mystery Jedi in a hologram being shown that people thought was Revan for about a day.

The book, Bloodline, release, most people are still reading through it. Seems to be generally well-received so far.

There will probably be a newsdump when Star Wars Celebration happens in July, where you can expect new trailers, comics, and books revealed.

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>>82812966
HR was shit compared to the first one.

>>82818579
nah

>>82818611
>How do you want your sequel, senpai?
>Make everything piss yellow

>>82818685
>piss yellow
It's a good color.
So is puke green.

>>82818685
>/co/
>acting like we're too good for magical realms
Haha, anon, you're the best.

HR was kickass, though the first game was damn good. Let's put it in Star Wars terms. The first was the OT. The second, well, it wasn't the Prequels, it was the worst of the EU. We're talking Vong levels of canon fuckery with a side order of Abeloth. HR is like the Nu Canon. It's not perfect (directors cut did some needed fixes like to the boss fights) but does far more right than it does wrong.

>>82818685
There's sweetfx and ENBs if you feel a game should have a different colour direction/aesthetic fampai

>>82814339
Look at that smug bastard. He knows he's closer to the prize than any of you will ever be.

>>82818533
Neat, thanks.

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>>82818910
>HR was kickass
No. HR was the same as all the other games they make nowadays. Casual as fuck. Deus Ex sure as hell wasn't perfect but it was ambitious. I wouldn't call any of the games they create nowadays ambitious.

>>82819032
What? Deus Ex was good, a helluva good leap from the first unreal engine it was based on but it was still primitive as hell and ugly as sin. It was the story that made it worth playing.

You need to take off your nostalgia goggles, blink in the real sunlight.

>>82819074
I think the argument was already made that he wouldn't trade any kind of goggles for the piss glasses everyone else seems to be wearing.

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>>82819092
You can get those adjusted, you know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcj_IRwHYPI

Oh god, they're so cheeky.

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>>82819074
>but it was still primitive as hell and ugly as sin.
Yeah, graphics were pretty weak even for its time. But pretty much all old games have mods that fix these things.
>It was the story that made it worth playing.
Too bad HR didn't have a story worth playing.
>You need to take off your nostalgia goggles
Oh, it's nostalgia goggles, is it? Shit, I was playing Blood yesterday but fuck me. You're right. The reason why I play all these old games in 2016 is simply because of nostalgia!

>>82819209
god, you /v/eddit contrarians are insufferable

>>82819249
>gosh he has a different opinion than me. REEDDDIT!
Fuck off, cunt.

>>82819209
>Yeah, graphics were pretty weak even for its time. But pretty much all old games have mods that fix these things.
You can only patch them so far.

>Too bad HR didn't have a story worth playing.
It's an opinion you're free to have, but it would be nice if you'd stop freaking out about other people having different ones.

>Oh, it's nostalgia goggles, is it? Shit, I was playing Blood yesterday but fuck me. You're right. The reason why I play all these old games in 2016 is simply because of nostalgia!
Maybe because it's what you like (opinions again). Maybe you're jaded. I don't mind playing the old games. You don't have to reinstall the game every time someone mentions it when you already have it installed all the time. But I still play modern games. The original Deus Ex is indeed largely playable through the magic of nostalgia. You can't even get most people who never played it to touch it once they see what it looks like, mods or no mods. Certainly not for the gameplay which could be really shitty, and though the RPG upgrade elements were nice most of the skills are so niche you'll barely use them and with technological or augmentation work arounds you won't need to.

At any rate this is off topic as fuck so we can just chalk it up to everyone having different tastes. It'd be a boring world if it wasn't.

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>>82819283
>You can only patch them so far
>but it would be nice if you'd stop freaking out
>magic of nostalgia
>You can't even get most people who never played it to touch it once they see what it looks like, mods or no mods.
>Certainly not for the gameplay

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Ae least argue about games of this franchise you nimcopoops.

>>82819332
So you're now off-topic and shit posting. Wonderful.

>>82819368
Definitely an example of a dated game people still enjoy. It'd be nice if an Imperial Game could come out and update it, but with EA involved that's such a monkey's paw wish.

>>82819368
I was really hoping this game was longer.
Imperial Commando when?
Your squad squaring off against Rebel-aligned Sev, and you have to choose between him or the Empire, when?

>>82819391
That's always been my beef with the game. It just feels so damn short and then it drops a cliffhanger on your head. The fact that that cliffhanger was never resolved, well, I guess non-canon took care of that.

Fuck it, that doesn't make it any damn better.

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>>82819391
> mfw I'd rather play a Geonosian
Flying with no regards to fuel, friends, and that's an underdog role if I ever heard of one.

But yeah, it's a solid game to play, even if you're playing it for the first time now like I do.

>>82819417
We'll always have Battlefront 2.
I also think Galactic Battlegrounds is criminally underrated, even if the Power Generator mechanic is ass.

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>>82819435
Speaking of which, shooting down Geonosians with a sniper rifle was always very satisfying.
And fuckin' Delso, get out of my droid factory reeeee.

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>>82819434
Gave me a whole new appreciation for the SBDs on Battlefront 2, goddamn those suckers are unforgiving
>Vibro-blading scores of Geonosians

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>>82819548
Well kriff you guys too but I agree with the vibroblading, though that's even better with the droids

>>82818533
Hopefully they reveal a Gregor bit. I want to see how he survived Abathar/ended up with Rex and Wolffe.

http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/star-wars/40688/star-wars-ewan-mcgregor-on-the-prequel-trilogy

>Ewan doesn't hate the Prequels confirmed

>>82819745
>Ewan confirmed for shilling in the hopes he can be in an Anthology movie

I kid, I kid. Though someone probably is thinking it over /tv/ way.

>>82819745
It is so incredibly fitting that the second actor to play Obi-Wan also has no real fascination or sense of wonder attached to Star Wars and can't figure out what the big deal is for other people.

But he's never made a little kid cry by telling him never to see the movies ever again, so he's doing a lot better than Guinness. Besides also being not dead, of course.

The nice thing about the shard shop in GOH is I was expecting it to be a 1 to 1 trade of excess shards. I'm glad it turns out you get a BIT more tokens per shard.

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>>82819390
>So you're now off-topic and shit posting. Wonderful.
Eat shit.>>82819368
>Ae least argue about games of this franchise you nimcopoops.
Okay, okay. I'm harsh on modern games because they suck but I'm no Obi-Wan. I can see the future.Three words, man! Virtual Reality Star Wars porn games!

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>>82819937
People didn't even manage to rip Ahsoka's model from the games she was featured in for SFM porn, pedophiles of this fandom confirmed to be to lazy to function.

Imagine the glitches. Body texture doesn't load, floating eyeballs and teeth are cuddling up to you.

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>>82819975
>pedophiles of this fandom confirmed to be to lazy to function.
But Ahsoka Tano is too old for pedophiles
>Imagine the glitches
Yeah, it's probably going to be pretty crap in the beginning. I wonder what the first hit will be? The next "Mario" of the VR generation.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/mazs-castle

Interesting tidbit about Maz's castle, I didn't know it was a supposed location of an ancient Jedi/Sith battle. Then again depending on how big their fight and how long it lasted there are probably few places they haven't fought.

>>82820055
Hebephile? Ephebophile? Sill fucked up.

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>>82820181
>Hebephile?
Yes. Ephebophilia isn't even a thing. All men are attracted to girls that are 15-19.
>so the term hebephilia may have been ignored along with ephebophilia

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>>82820277
You should spend less time on 4chan or with your redneck friends amigo.

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>>82820326
I thought we were friends, anon.

God dammit, first off topic video game stupidity now this creepy shit.

Alright how about something that's still stupid but it's at least Star Wars related:

http://www.starwars.com/news/poll-whos-the-mvp-of-the-ghost-crew

Hera is winning, Chopper is beating Sabine, nobody gives a shit about poor Zeb.

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>>82820375
> parents leading
> kids share the middlefield
> pet is left behind
MVP is Hera of course

>>82820423
I'd love to see a reaction from Zeb when he learns he's considered the Rebel's "pet" instead of Chop.

>>82820463
Sure he's useful and all - he was an honour guard, he can fly, aim, repair and so on - but Chopper is more versatile.

But there's no Ghost without Hera - of course Ezra and Kanan have their importance, but they aren't as tied to the ship as her.

>>82820326
So, you're into older ladies eh?

So across various SW medias you can play as Human, blindHuman, paleHuman, greenHuman, Chiss, Togruta, Twi'lek, Cathar, Sith, Rodian and Kel'Dor.

While I wish for some more Kel'Dor love, which others races would you like to play as?

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>>82820655
and men.

>>82820656
There's also Zabrak that you can play as

>>82820675
Fuck, forgot them. Anymore addendums?

>>82820375
How in the fuck is Hera winning? Tumblr shilling for her?

>>82821167
Everybody likes the lekku

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>>82821508
This.

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>>82820375
What if this poll was made to see who's the most popular character in the Ghost Crew, just to see who will be Filoni's next target on the Waifu/Husbando kill chart?

Hold the one's you love close anons.

>>82821167
what's wrong with Hera winning?

Are you xenophobic??

or lekkuphobic

Isn't Poe's comic on-going rather than limited?

>>82822707
It was announced as ongoing, but swbooks.com changed it to me listed as a 5-issue miniseries, so I have no clue.

>>82822420
Hell no, it's just, she hasn't done much of note other than get her nameless Squadron Pilots killed. I'd have thought Kanan would be winning this poll by a landslide, which makes me feel like there has been a tumblr intervention.

>>82822315
Oh shit

>>82822764
Dude, she flies the fucking ship, of all the spectres, she is the one that is constantly doing something each episode.

I really doubt it's tumblr and it is more people just realising that Hera does a shitton for the team, and i'm saying this not as a waifu fag or anything, but just because i feel Hera deserves some recognition.

i still voted for my fav fuccboi Kanan tho

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>>82822315
Don't do it, Pepperoni pizza!

>>82817079
Darth Nader

>>82822850
Kanan is a Jedi though, even Knighted now, albeit by a weird time traveling Inky Jedi Ghost illusion thing.

He's worth like, 20 Hera's. 50 even!

>>82822906
Good luck getting anywhere without the Ghost :y

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>>82822315
No... what have I done. By trying to make my waifu win I doomed her. FILONI, YOU FUCKING BASTARD!

>>82820656
Wouldn't mind playing as a Bothan, myself.

>Many Bothans died to give you this ass-kicking

>>82820656
Ithorian because they are cool and "iconic"

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>>82816697
>it's a space politics episode
>it turns out to actually be pretty fucking good

>>82823039
Man, he truly loved Padme. Rest in peace, sweet Rush.

>>82822996
Battlefront 2 Bro
Destroyer of the rampage, with their +1 cloak of stealth and fire that would make Hades himself blush.
Hated those basterds.

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>>82822315

>>82823039
>>82816697
Space politics are the best part of Star Wars. I don't even fucking care.

>>82823181
Y'know, I thought you could play as them in one of the Battlefront games. I just had trouble remembering which one.

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>>82822315
>Herafags dooming their waifu

An excruciating death by order of Lord Filonious is at hand.

>>82823211
good for you.
The perfect amount of politics was in 4. Anything more is a waste of everybody's time.

>>82823214
You can play theme in Battefront 2
Battefront 2. Not EA's Battefront 2. The original Battefront 2.
This is fucking confusing

>>82823453
No prob. I got you the first time.

>>82823453
I hope EAfront 2 has a subtitle or something.

Battlefront EA was easy enough to say, but having to say Battlefront EA 2, or something rediculous feels silly

>>82823453
It's just going to be a rehash of EA front with minor sequel content
>No prequel content
>No space
>No classes
>No revamp of Rhen Var, Kamino or Bespin Platforms
Way to kill the franchise

>>82823671
It's the Xbox One all over again

>>82818685
Various shades of blue and gray were superior, anon

>>82819975
>People didn't even manage to rip Ahsoka's model from the games she was featured in for SFM porn,
Yes they did. Look up 'Ahsoka' on paheal.

>>82823691
I fucking hate every single one of those suckers and idiots who bought EAfront, for making it possible to have a sequel, and to make fucking EA more money.

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I would have been okay with EA making shitty SW games as long as LA finished my 1313 game

>>82824683
How many people are playing online? Did it drop dramatically or something?

Buy yeah, EA knew what they were doing when they released it, they rode on the TFA hype to get sales and it succeeded. I know because my friends bought the damn thing and then, after less than a month, returned the damn thing, even after I told them it wasn't all that fun to begin with and not worth the expensive cost.

>>82824840
I really wish it flopped as hard as Evolve, but i have no idea how many are online now

>>82824726
>1313
I don't get why this concept shit from Lucasarts instantly got cult status.

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>>82824840
>How many people are playing online?
Not many, especially considering it sold so much. http://swbstats.com/

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>>82824926
>I don't get why this concept shit from Lucasarts instantly got cult status.
Someone on /swco/ don't understand why people get excited about Star Wars games? Okay... Anyway, I always wanted to play action games set in the SW universe.

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>>82822906
The MVP on the Ghost is Hera because she's the better pilot. Even Kanan realizes this. Accept your Husbandos weaknesses, cAnon.

>>82825199
>MVP
>Proceeds to get her entire squad killed

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>>82825199
>Kanan will never see her face again

>>82825128
I dunno, I have lost all faith in Lucasarts after the TFU games and the old games are just so good I don't even need more 2bh.

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>>82825230
And she saved the day more often than not to make up for it.
>>82825231
He can still hear her voice.

>>82825653
Thank you Sheevster

>>82825653
Thank (you), Sheev.

>>82825653
sleep tight, pupper

>>82825653
I hope you sleep lightly with sleep paralysis and night terrors, you dumb old prune.

>>82825653
so puffy :3

15 years ago, STAR WARS EPISODE II: ATTACK OF THE CLONES was released in theaters. What do you remember about film, anons?

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>>82825994
>1966 was 15 years ago
Time sure flies.

>>82825994
First time I saw it, I got bored and stopped right before the Arena scene. Which is a shame because that's one of my favorite Star Wars scenes now. I gave it another shot eventually, and found that there was a lot I liked about the movie, particularly Dooku and everything on Geonosis. And the music. And the Clones. And I thought Anakin was a badass, but that was just the edgy teen in me at the time.

>>82825994

Yoda fighting Dooku. He was so smol and fast.

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Remember, /swco/. Whenever you find yourself in a jam, whenever you're making a deal with someone or whenever life presents you with an opportunity to improve your situation, just ask yourself: What Would Hondo Do?

>>82825994
It was coarse and irritating and it got everywhere.

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>>82825994
It gave us good maymays.

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>>82825994
SAND

>somehow missed everything that went down with EA battlefront
>decide to check the heroes roster out
>Luke
>Leia
>Han
>that's it
What the good fuck is that? I don't even want to play as Han or Leia, there's literally nothing about them that would make them stand out in battle.

>>82826292
There's also Nien Nunb as DLC.

And he is actually less unique than Leia and Han, if you can believe it.

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>>82826280
I always thought these scenes were hilarious. Imagine Georgie sitting down, writing down romantic dialogue, something he's never experienced and he's trying his best.
>Okay, shit. They're at the beach? What do I do now? They're alone. Maybe..
>"I like the way you move."
>No, he wouldn't say that. Maybe:
>"You are an attractive person, Padme. Wanna go on a date with me?"
>That could work but it sounds kinda wooden... Wait! I got it!
>I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere. Not like here. Everything is soft and smooth.
>Perfect!

>>82826331
>Nien Nunb
Who?
At least give me Old Ben or Rey or something. I want lightsabers, that's the whole reason.

>>82816104
Yeah towards the end after the last time skip it did become a bit tedious and rushed, but I still enjoyed it.

Im kind of glad though its not canon anymore. It kind of takes out the mystique rise of Sheev. If anything Plagueis should have died earlier. That way it would have everything in the movies should have been on Sheev. I didn't like that Maul was basically an assassin.

>>82826500
The laughing Sullustian who sits next to Lando in RotJ

>But why would they pick him? There are a dozen more interesting characters in the OT alone!
Because there was already a Sullustian model made for the Rebels customization. When criticized on this, they defended themselves by saying it would be a wasted opportunity to not use the Sullustian model again.

>Did they at least give him cool shit to play with?
No, he literally just uses a bunch of equipment that was in the game at launch. He is essentially just a standard Rebel trooper, but with more health. His auto-turret gets stronger if it doesn't get blown up right away, but that's it.

>>82820423
This picture annoys me.

You can't find a higher quality version?

Kind of an odd problem, but what screencapture tools work with KOTOR on Win7? All my usual ones just give me black screens.

Also, I'm at the old temple on Dantooine and had a nice chat with that over 20'000 year old droid. What a nice fellow.

It's pronounced "Swikko".

>>82826411
I like George, he's an older me.

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>>82826889
Thats kind of sad Anon.

>>82825994
Pumped.

So pumped I came home and played Jedi Outcast on skirmish spawned a bunch of Stormtroopers made them allies and pretended it was the Clone Wars.

Then Galactic Battlegrounds expansion came out. Fun fucking time. I was really excited when KOTOR 2 had bits of the AOTC soundtrack in it.

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>>82826411
Are you people intentionally retarded? The romance scenes were deliberately cheesy and over the top. Everything about Star Wars is. Han Solo screams these retro pulp cheese.

>>82826928
It is. I'm fit but autistic af.
I want to die.

Does anyone have that map that one guy made that combines all the canon maps?

>>82826979
>Galactic Battlegrounds expansion came out.

GOD I LOVED THAT GAME!

One of the coaches my Dad worked with gave me a copy. I played that games for years. After a while I would just build levels and let the computer duke it out. I remember once I tried to recreate Hoth. For shits and giggles I put a random Gungan camp in the south in a bunch of random trees and ores.

After the Empire decimated the Rebels, they went to look for the Gungans. Well The gungans out of no where built up an army and destroyed the Empire forces.

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>>82827018
>You just don't understand

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>>82827200
>Well The gungans out of no where built up an army and destroyed the Empire forces
Sounds like GB. Gungans unexpectedly one of the best factions with the best campaign.

>James Earl Jones is still alive
>Frank Oz is still alive
> Ian McDiarmid is still younger than Palpatine, 33 years after ROTJ
>Mark Hamill is still alive
>Carrie Fischer is still alive
>Harrison Ford is still alive
>Christensen still looks like a fuccboi
>McGregor is now the perfect age to place post-ROTS Ben

Man, Disney really lucked out for the nostalgia mining. Imagine if they had waited another decade.

>>82827745
Too bad they killed off Han, so that's one less bit of nostalgia to use.

>>82826411
What the fuck kind of statue is this?

>>82827873
It's a bull.

>>82827873
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charging_Bull

>>82811430
What's our guild name in GoH? Can anyone hook me up?

So Vader is getting cancelled?

>>82827860
I think it was more that Harrison killed Han.
They're milking the Solo nostalgia wth the movie anyway.

We all agree that a Obi-Wan solo movie would make more money than any other character, right?

>>82828159
Semantics; it's story is coming to a natural ending point and ending on a ""high"" note before it gets run into the ground even more than it already is.

>>82827963
>"People on The Street say you've got to rub the nose, horns and testicles of the bull for good luck, tour guide Wayne McLeod would tell the group on the Baltimore bus, who would giddily oblige."

That's amazing.

>>82828242
Which issue is the one where he takes down the group of rebels? I'll pick that up from my lcs on my way home.