Is the 2008 Hulk movie MCU Canon?Is it any good? I've never seen it.
Is Hulk even any good as a main character regardless of medium, or is he only decent when used as a supporting character? Referring to him on Earth by the way, Planet Hulk was decent but basically was tailor made for Hulk to work as a character, though there's nothing wrong with that I guess.
>Is the 2008 Hulk movie MCU Canon?
The Tony Stark cameo would say yes.
Now we must ask ourselves - is the Ang Lee film MCU Canon?
>>82788283
Nope
I noticed there are contrarians these days that claim that boring piece of shit was better than Norton's Hulk
>>82788260
The Hulk is ACTUALLY the main character in a lot of Hulk stories. That title goes to Bruce Banner.
In a sense the Hulk is a supporting character in his own comic, a separate character and personality that inhabits the same body that Banner does.
>>82788260
Yes, it is, but 'soft' canon. Don't expect it to be referenced.
It was good - certainly good enough to warrant a watch. I would call it about as good as the first one, although I personally like that one more.
The Hulk can be an excellent character. Because he is so different from most Marvel heroes. For one thing he isn't talking all the damn time.
>>82788317
>The Hulk isn't ACTUALLY
Stupid spellcheck.
>>82788306
>I noticed there are contrarians these days that claim that boring piece of shit was better than Norton's Hulk
I am one of those people. There's no accounting for taste.
Iron man at the end. Footage of Bull's rampage on screen in Iron Man 2 and Ross being played by William Hurt in both Incredible Hulk and Civil War. Obviously canon.
I liked it. It wasn't mind blowing but it was neat. Blonski gave us the first taste of what to expect from a Super Soldier and I personally loved all the callbacks to the old TV show
>>82788260
>Is the 2008 Hulk movie MCU Canon?
of course it is many characters from it are referenced in other MCU projects
Heck Civil War shows General Ross progressed into Secretary of State
>>82788327
>Don't expect it to be referenced.
>Abomination was in the original script for Age of Ultron
>General Ross was just in Civil War
Okay then.
>>82788327
It got a reference in Ant-Man. And Abomination was seriously considered for a part in Age of Ultron that they decided against for just having so much shit already in the film.
So he's still out there for MCU canon, and who knows, maybe they'll even have the Leader do something someday.
It had the best final fight scene in all of MCU, barring Daredevil TV series. (Yes, that includes anything from the Winter Soldier)
That's all I remember about it.
>>82788260
>Is the 2008 Hulk movie MCU Canon?
Of course it fucking is. There's things to tell you it is and nothing to suggest it isn't.
I cannot FATHOM the state of mind that people could have to consider an alternative.
>>82788321
The amount of greatness in HULK is countered by the equal amounts of retardation in it
>>82788374
There's so much stuff I like about the movie and then I remember terrible looking Hulk Poodle and the random comic panel transitions and Absorbing Dad.
>>82788260
Hulk himself looked way, way better in the 2008 movie than in the Avengers movie. Ruffalo Hulk was just fat Ruffalo
>>82788321
This post is making me AngLee, you wouldnt like it when I'm AngLee
>>82788283
>Now we must ask ourselves - is the Ang Lee film MCU Canon?
It's a sort of soft-canon. The broad strokes of Banner Hulking out and eventually ending up in South America are canon, but the rest is iffy.
>>82788354
I think you know very well what I mean, anon.
And how would Abomination have featured in Age of Ultron? ...Ah, wait, in a 'dream sequence' generated by Scarlet Wench?
>>82788359
>maybe they'll even have the Leader do something someday.
Oh, that would be nice, but in a Hulk movie please.
>>82788443
2005 called -
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=is+hulk+2008+canon
>>82788327
Ang Lee's is soft canon. Incredible Hulk is hard canon.
>>82788503
There is no soft canon. 2005 is inexistent in the MCU. It's non-canon. Nothing counts.
>>82788306
Literally everyone said the Ang Lee's one was better.
I've never heard anyone said they like the Northen one
This brings back those feelings in that best of all years, 2000, when a Spider-Man movie was just on the horizon...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5t6SgYMr9o
Those were better days.
>>82788479
>And how would Abomination have featured in Age of Ultron? ...Ah, wait, in a 'dream sequence' generated by Scarlet Wench?
Ultron frees him and uses him as muscle along with Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch. They dropped it early on.
>>82788525
Originally Ang Lee's Hulk was soft canon afaik. TIH begins where Hulk ended with Banner in S. America. Once the MCU took off they acknowledged it as a complete reboot.
>>82788525
Yet Incredible Hulk picks up pretty much exactly where Ang Lee's Hulk ended.
>>82788547
..No wonder they dropped it.
>>82788545
The only people who ever liked Ang Lee's Hulk were contrarians on /co/.
Norton's Hulk is one of the only MCU films with a good villain.
>>82788545
The Ang Lee one was a mess especially the 3rd act with hulk dogs and absorbing man evil daddy. Norton's is flawed but better.
>>82788581
True. I'm an oldfag and was in college at the time. Everyone loves Raimi's Spideys and Singer X-Mens but shat on and made fun of Ang Lee Hulk and Affleck Daredevil. It was mocked and derided for how bad the third act was mainly.
>>82788283
>there are 2 Absorbing Men running around in the MCU
>>82788637
>Implying anything Marvel's TV division does has any relevancy in the movies
>>82788637
>>82788649
Reckon they'll start using Spider-Man second stringer villains now?
>>82788615
The scenes where the Hulk was fighting the military in some desert and in San Francisco were pretty cool if I recall correctly, but the Hulk-dogs and Absorb-a-dad was so bad.
>>82788466
I think they stick with the South America thing because a reboot of a still recent series hadn't really been done before.
>>82788283
The 2008 movie is a loosely based sequel, never referencing the previous film, but I believe it is canon (and so does wikipedia.
>>82788371
I honestly think people no longer know what canon means any longer.
I think they believe something needs to be referenced or used a lot in other shit to he canon.
But hey its /co/ you can't expect them to know a term common to comic book lexicon for decades. It'd require them to know shit about comics.
>>82788794
Except they opening credits show entirely different origins for the hulk. Also betty goes back to not knowing banner is the hulk.
It may have been intended as a sequel at something point, but the final product is bot a sequel at all
>>82788260
It is
General Ross references Captain America
Tony does the cameo
The avengers reference it with footage
Daredevil references it with "Terror in Harlem"
Ross repirises his role in civil war.
Even if I didn't like Norton as Bruce Banner, the fight between Hulk and Abomination is probably my favorite fight in the MCU.
>>82789024
They also show a news broadcast from the University Battle in Iron Man 2.
>>82789024
There was also a line in the first Avengers in which Banner told Tony, "The last time I was in New York, I kind of broke...Harlem", referring to his battle with Abomination.
>>82789024
>General Ross references Captain America
>Tony does the cameo
>The avengers reference it with footage
>Daredevil references it with "Terror in Harlem"
Can you give us more specifics?
I watched hulk, iron man, avengers, dd, but I totally missed the references.
>>82788581
But it was decently received critically? It's not a perfect movie, but to say it's irredeemably bad is another thing entirely
>>82789485
>General Ross references Captain America
The serum they gave Blonsky after his first encounter with the Hulk was a failed attempt to recreate the Super Soldier serum.
>Tony does the cameo
Tony meets up with Ross in the After Credits scene. The story behind the encounter is elaborated upon in the Marvel Short "The Consultant".
>The avengers reference it with footage
Dunno about that, but there were news clips about the events of Incredible Hulk in Iron Man 2.
>Daredevil references it with "Terror in Harlem"
It's on one of the news headlines visible in Ben Urich's office.
Real talk: fuck Planet Hulk. If they ever get the rights to do another Hulk movie it should be an actual goddamn Hulk movie. Leader, gamma rays, mutations, multiple personality disorder. Not John Carter but oh also the Hulk's in it.
Also a small, stupid part of me wants them to go the Ultimate Universe route and makeBettyShe-Hulk, having undergone gamma experimentation so that she can hunt down Bruce for forgetting & cuckolding her.
>>82789601
Oooh thank you.
Yeah, I totally missed The consultant.
And good catch on the DD one.
>>82789632
Ang Lee's Hulk is the only movie to portray Hulk as the fucking giant he should be.
It's also the only movie where Hulk actually gets bigger and stronger as he gets more angry.
>>82789648
That's one of the best things about the movie.
MCU Hulk, and especially the Ruffalo version, is way too small.
I just want abomination back.
Tim Roth deserves better than this.
>>82789648
I remember not liking it when it came out and preferring Incredible Hulk on the grounds on there was more fighting but yeah, in retrospect, it was pretty damn kino.
>>82789696
They wouldn't even have to cast Roth. He's a CGI abomination now.
>>82788260
>Is the 2008 Hulk movie MCU Canon
theblast fight is referenced a lot
>>82789696
Tim Roth's Abomination is still easily one of the top 3 MCU villains.
>>82789644
>battle of new york on the right
ben has had a hulk fetish?
So ed norton got plastic surgery in south america. Or he just started eating carbos.
>>82789601
This. Tards saying it's soft canon or not canon rekt. TIH is hard canon and referenced as such a lot.
Ang Lee Hulk could be argued soft canon but TIH is a key part of the MCU.
>>82789648
Even though Ang Lee's Hulk looks like a giant retarded 8-year-old, I still really like him in motion. He had very interesting details in his movement that the 2008 ''abomination'' (which was a retard of it own kind) completely disregarded.
Wheres Hulk 2 with Leader and the roadtrip through the MCU and eventually lead up to Planet Hulk
WHERES MY GAMMA WORLD MOVIE
>>82788260
Incredible Hulk is great. And Tim Roth completely steals the show and is one of the greatest characters in the MCU.
>>82789815
Did someone say GAMMA WORLD?!
>>82789815
They even set up for the Leader back in 2008. Would be great if they'd pick up on that loose end in a future Hulk solo-film.
>>82789815
>>82789696
If nothing else, the fact that Abomination was initially considered as Ultron's helper in AoU tells us they're at least thinking about them
>>82788545
The Ang Lee Hulk is garbage. The Norton one isn't great, but it's better than that trainwreck.
>>82788361
The final battles in DD have been worst fights in both seasons.
>>82788260
it's 'canon' but everybody (and marvel) knows it's a mess, so it doesn't get referenced a lot
they wanted it to function as a phase 1 movie, but it failed as fuck and the Avengers needed to correct some shit about it, so while it is considered part of the family, it's like the idiot child that everyone but a few ignores
>>82790099
It's still better than IM2.
>>82790090
Hallway fight was best in S1. For S2 it's a tie between the fight where DD rescues Frank from the mob and the Prison Fight.
>>82788546
>that nostalgia
I still have the poster of Spidey's face where you can see the WTC reflected in his lens.
>>82788662
Superior Foes Netflix series when?
>>82790123
As well as IM3, Thor, Thor2 and AoU.
>>82790125
Agreed. I don't understand how they always screw up the final fights so much
>>82789648
Hulk isn't supposed to literally get bigger as he fights. Stronger,yes, but I think Ang just has an inflation fetish
>>82790123
yeah, it really isn't
also IM2 >>>>>> IM3
Hulk 2003 > Hulk 2008
>>82788260
>Is the 2008 Hulk movie MCU Canon?
Yes.
>Is it any good?
Some people like it some people don't. I like it.
>>82788283
>is the Ang Lee film MCU Canon?
No.
>>82790278
Confirmed for god awful shit taste, holy Christ.
>>82790278
There's no way this isn't bait.
>>82790333
Confirmed for god awful shit taste, holy Christ.
>>82790294
>>82788361
rewatch it....the editing and cgi are terrible
>>82790099
what the fuck?
what fucking mistakes were made that needed to be fixed?
ignore this gay nigga, its never brought becauae aside from Harlem nothing else really mattered mcu wise
>yfw he comes back as MODOK
>>82790498
>forgetting file like a chump
>>82790509
>>82790498
>Modok
>Not Leader
>>82790528
I guess that would make a lot more sense.
Wonder if they'll ever make Ross Red Hulk in MCU.
>>82790539
of course it was the nigga getting hulk blood in his head was Stern
i wouldve liked Rulk eventually, but Hulk needs some more stuff going on before they do Planet Hulk or even Rulk
>>82790576
>the nigga getting hulk blood in his head was Stern
Really? I must have missed that.
Planet Hulk would feel really out of place in current MCU, I cant see that working out at all.
>>82790388
Eh, people are calling CW trash for not giving Zemo a mask, of course they'd hate IM3 just as irrationally
>>82790490
>its never brought becauae aside from Harlem nothing else really mattered mcu wise
and the only reason 'nothing mattered' was that marvel knew the movie was shit, otherwise they would've written their stories to be more inclusive of the '08 movie
>>82790722
nothing mattered because it mattered to Hulk, just like IM1 mattered to Iron-Man,
>>82790624
Fans keep asking for it, but it just wouldn't work at all with the way they've set up the characters.
>>82790722
Does Marvel even have the rights to make solo Hulk films?
>>82790722
You're just grasping at straws to talk shit
What was supposed to "matter" in non-Hulk MCU movies, if TIH wasnt as shitty as you say? You think Betty would've appeared in Avengers? Pepper only did once and now both her and Jane are gone, despite their movies being successful. You think Ross would be a bigger part of the Avengers movies? Abomination a recurrent villain? That they would've kept Norton instead of replacing him?
>>82790743
IM mattered very much because it allowed the MCU to be set up properly and it's an integral part of its foundation
unlike your shitty hulk movie that gets swept under the carpet and nothing of value would be lost if it didn't exist
>>82790643
CW Zemo is the best villain we've had in an MCU film.
>>82790814
Yes, partly at least. I can't remember the details, but basically Universal would get part of the profits if they kept making solo Hulk movies, and since both 2003 and 2008 made less that $300millions worldwide nobody thinks it's worth the risk
>>82790845
he was a very good Zemo albeit different origins, at least to me
Russos said theyd left out the costume for a future represenation
>>82791007
Since they didn't kill him there's always the possibility that he'll return in the future as a more comic-accurate version of Zemo.
>>82791007
Did they? I don't think anyone ever posted the source of said interview, and some guy made a video about the artbook of the movie and that concept of Zemo was nowhere to be seen, despite being allegedly from that
>>82790817
They were going to keep Norton but he wanted too much money, or was a shit about it or something.
>>82791154
Norton wanted too much creative control. He did an American History X and pretty much hi-jacked Incredible Hulk because he realised how shit it was set out to be and did what he could to save it.
>>82791154
I don't think Norton is the kind of guy that would commit himself to a franchise like this, not for too long at least, at some point he would've left on his own. But yeah, as >>82791204 tried to explain in the most bait-y way possible, Norton likes to play by his own rules when working in a movie, so that means he can easily butt heads with producers and maybe even directors about creative control (he kinda did for TIH). If i'm not mistaken, for example, he's the one that came up with the (eventually deleted) scene of Bruce trying to shoot himself in the artic and the quasi-transformation-sex
Whats the very first movie to get released thats part of the current canon?
>>82791324
Iron Man 1.
>>82791324
Ang Lee's Hulk.
>>82791389
There's an Absorbing Man in that shitty Marvel TV show, therefore unless there's a second one in the MCU it isn't canon since the shows are explicitly stated to be canon
GET MEMED ON FUCKBOY
>>82791442
The shows aren't canon tho. Nice try Perlmutter.
>>82788545
>Literally everyone said the Ang Lee's one was better.
Even the memesite thinks Norton's is better.
>>82791619
>critics
>relevant
daily reminder to look at TFA's RT score
>>82791644
You should always ignore online scores for movies that haven't been out for at least two years.
>>82791619
>I don't know how RT works
They both sit at the average rating of 6.2/10, funny
What you posted means a bit of more reviews were negative for 2003, though
>>82788479
>And how would Abomination have featured in Age of Ultron? ...Ah, wait, in a 'dream sequence' generated by Scarlet Wench?
I read he would have been part of the hydra raid at the begining
>>82791721
>>I don't know how RT works
There's always one smartass.
>>82791728
That's clearly flipping not spinning.
>>82791770
But it's true, people post the tomatometer all the time acting as if that's a vote about the movie's quality. They look at TFA's 92% and act like it was given an outrageous 9.2/10, they complain about how it's unfair that MoS was rated lower than Thor 2 when in reality they both got the average rating of 6.2/10, and so on
>>82791728
GOAT MCU fight scene.
>>82791644
>Literally all people everywhere hold my opinion.
contrary evidence
>I only count reviews that agree with my opinion.
>>82788545
god 2003 Hulk sucked. The tie in video game was somehow better than the actual movie
>>82790278
IM3 was bad but nowhere near as bad as IM2.
>>82791619
>>82791644
>>82791721
IMDB is 5.7 versus 6.8 as well. So neither is universally regarded as great. But one is clearly more well liked than the other.
>>82789644
>Harlem Terror
>not Harlem Shakes
>>82791728
the close ups of Roth look so disconnected from the wide shot scenes, it's ridiculous
>>82791728
so they know the Hulk can straight up destroy tanks and he thinks a handgun will work?
>>82792015
I'd trust the general public's opinion more if people would give me complaints more substantial than "the dogs were silly"
But anyway, they're both ok movies, it's just a matter of personal preferences
Where is Abomination? Will he ever show his face an another MCU Movie again?
>>82792454
Tie-in comic said both him and Leader were taken under SHIELD custody
Now that SHIELD's gone now who knows. Did AoS ever mention anything?
>>82791907
The game was pretty gud, other than literally every boss except Leader was another hulk.
>>82792587
Nothin specific, but there was a pretty major outbreak of high security powered prisoners after Hydra tipped their hand. They could both be on the run.
>>82789644
DD is MCU canon too? Shit now I have to watch that.
>>82793225
What rock have you been living under these last two years to not know that?
>>82793225
where have you been
>>82793064
Did Leader ever do anything in movie other than exist? Its been awhile since I've seen it and can't fathom why Shield would just lock him up for no reason other than being hulk-ish
>>82793269
>>82793332
I made the assumption that they were separating the TV universe and the movie universe, like DC is doing.
>>82793340
He was a scientist trying to help cure Banner, but who also wanted to replicate his powers. As far as being The Leader this is all we got in the movie. >>82790509
>>82793393
They are officialy part of the MCU, but don't hold your breath for these tv shows ever influencing the movies or any of the Defenders appearing on the big screen.
>>82793415
That makes sense, cause wasnt Shield also Hydra at that point? Makes sense that they'd want a guy on the right track to make super soldiers
>>82793393
Nope. DD, Jessica Jones and AOS all take place in a shared universe. Sam Jackson even shows up on rare occasion in AOS. They do epxlain why Coulson is less dead then you'd expect
Short answer:He was. Pirated Kree tech is a hell of a thing
Its amazing how much this movie sets up, but never got followed through on. Smart Hulk,The Leader, Doc Sampson, hell even amadeus cho had a cameo.
>people thinking the ang lee hulk is canon in any capacity or that the 2008 film is some sort of pseudo sequel
I feel like this board is getting stupider.
For the numerous dummies in this thread who don't understand the canon of the MCU.
>Films
Iron Man
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
Thor
Captain America: The First Avenger
The Avengers
Iron Man 3
Thor: The Dark World
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Guardians of the Galaxy
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Ant-Man
Captain America: Civil War
Doctor Strange
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
Spider-Man: Homecoming
Thor: Ragnarok
Black Panther
Avengers: Infinity War – Part 1
Ant-Man and the Wasp
Captain Marvel
Avengers: Infinity War – Part 2
>ABC
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Agent Carter
Damage Control (upcoming)
Untitled John Ridley-developed series (upcoming)
>TBD
Untitled Marvel comedy series separate from Damage Control (upcoming)
>Freeform
Cloak & Dagger (upcoming)
>Netflix
Daredevil
Jessica Jones
Luke Cage (upcoming)
Iron Fist (upcoming)
The Defenders (upcoming)
The Punisher (upcoming)
>>82793902
>dummies
anon, some of us do other things.
>>82793916
You mean like posting on a comic book image board?
This list of information is readily available by simply googling MCU and clicking the wikipedia link.
>>82793902
>Damage Control (upcoming)
Is this the long awaited DC crossover?
>>82793948
No one specifically asked for the list, but thanks for it. Let's not devolve this thread into an argument.
>>82793998
Ok :^)
You're welcome.
>>82793832
Back in 2008, they where intentionally vague about whether or not it was, because being shameless enough to reboot something after less than 10 years wasn't really a thing yet. The '08 movie clearly pays lip-service to the 03 movie even though it doesn't really work.
>>82794048
Well it doesn't really matter. We have the origin at the beginning and then the immediate manhunt that follows. It couldn't be a sequel if it tried. That's a straight up origin story and nothing is gained by making Ang Lee's awful movie some sort of headcanon.
>>82794007
007-anon, I got this pic for you
>>82794098
geez thank you
i like it alot
>>82794094
>awful movie
kys
>>82794129
>hulk_poodle.proof
>>82791007
>>82790845
>Russos said theyd left out the costume for a future represenation
He'll probably just come out in costume for ten minutes and then he'll blow himself up.
>Is the 2008 Hulk movie MCU canon?
jee, I don't know OP.
>Tony literally shows up
>"last time I was in New York I kind of wrecked Harlem"
>Jon Hurt was just in Civil War
Don't be stupid.
I liked it a lot. Norton was a far better Banner than Ruffalo.
>>82794434
He was. But I hear he isn't nice to work with or something like that.
>>82791644(You)
>>82788503
>>82788551
>>82788550
>>82788466
>There are some Anons who think the Ang Lee Hulk is canon
Anons please, I thought you guys would know better. This is pretty much a "Amazing Spider-man" case were a producer or a studio tries tricking the general audience that it's a sequel, fearing backlash for making a reboot too close to the original, but when you watch it it's clearly not canon. For example, Avi Arad kept saying that "The Amazing Spider-man" was a prequel from the Raimi series back when it was in production and we all know that isn't canon. Hulk is in no way canon in the MCU.
>>82788260
Yes, but you'll have to mentally replace Ed Norton with Mark Ruffalo.
>>82794715
I think some people were confused by the opening scene of the 2008 Hulk. It goes over a long flashback sequence which could be confused for the Raimi film.
>>82790388
Not him but they both have some good stuff
>IM2 rhodey and stark arguing about whose the big gun like bros playing halo co-op
>the next scene where rhodey goes full samurai jack and blows up a drone and oil splatters on his mask
>briefcase suit
IM3
>comfy Christmas theme
>"WARMACHINEROX"
>tony custom rigging grenades and a shock glove
>everybody has at least one fave out of the filler (8-41) suits
>>82794930
Ah I completely forgot about the Raimi Hulk.
>>82788283
Universal considers it Canon and so do I.
That's probably it though...
I wish Marvel would get the rights back from Universal, we could get a sequel featuring She Hulk and the U Foes
>>82788283
TIH is canon. Ang Lee's Hulk isn't.
>>82795216
Universal, Marvel Studios, and Disney all consider it canon. And considering the fact that it actually IS canon, I'm inclined to declare my correct recollection that it is indeed continuity positive, as in, yes, it is canon by all accounts.
>>82789867
>in a future Hulk solo-film
Something that will never happen.
>>82795271
And by it, I mean The Incredible Hulk, exclusively. Not that hot garbage patch of a soul sucker for CGI can't believe it's not butter face of a movie Hulk 03 was.
>>82795271
Disney and Marvel Studios do not consider Ang Lee's Hulk canon, the fuck are you on about?
>>82795318
I was talking about the canon one.
Who else is going to re watch all the old MCU movies before going to infinity war part 1?
You think Hulk will be ok in Thor Ragnarok? It would suck if he just felt tacked on, out of place, and generally holding up the Asgardian stuff. Actually come to think of it I wish Beta Ray Bill took his spot
>>82795404
I will.
>>82795431
Jesus, what a waste of money.
There are maybe 5 MCU films worth owning. Certainly not shit like fucking Agent Carter or AOU.
>>82795509
>owning part of a completable collection
>>82795404
I rewatch everything relevant before a new movie comes out
some of them might be flawed but they're still enjoyable, especially for a casual watch
>>82795431
my friend of subsaharan descent
>>82795509(You)
it's almost as film as art is subjective and everybody experiences it in different ways
not to mention some people just enjoy collecting shit in physical form
>>82795593
>giving into completionist mindset
>giving companies money for things you don't care about
Good goy
>>82789623
This, 1000 times this
>>82795685
>things you don't care about
I unironically think there isn't a straight up bad thing in the MCU. Iron Man 2 is the weakest but it's still worth watching and is still enjoyable.
>>82795789
I'm sorry to hear you're retarded.
>>82788327
>Yes, it is, but 'soft' canon. Don't expect it to be referenced.
>Iron Man 2 shows news footage of the Hulk defending Betty on the college campus when the troops attack him
>Avengers has Banner directly reference that he "broke the Bronx" in his battle with Abomination
>'Thunderbolt' Ross returns in Civil War
>>82792996
And stealth missions that cause a game over when banner became the hulk of course.
>>82793986
Kek
>>82788260
>Is the 2008 Hulk movie MCU Canon?
Yes, barely. A good example would be The Clone Wars and Star Wars
> Is it any good? I've never seen it.
Its okay. Not much substance to it. Bruce is pretty bland and the abomination iant as exciting as you'd think he'd be
I liked both Hulk movies.
>>82788306
There was a thread earlier in the week. I've always preferred 2003.
>>82795431
>organized by release order
Good man
>>82795509
What was Agent Carter even about? Was it revealed that he's super old or something? I don't think I even heard an announcement about it.
>>82788439
Of your list the only thing I disliked was the dogs. Nick Nolte was great and the Elfman's score really sold the emotion throughout.
>>82796169
Its what carter did between Cap freezing and him waking up.
Its The Clone Wars of the MCU
>>82796169
???
It was about Peggy Carter, as the title suggests....
>>82796169
s1- investigating howard stark for treason and stopping a gas attack
s2- madame masque and the darkforce
and that's what peggy was up to while cap was on ice before they canceled her show
>>82788283
It was when 2008 Hulk came out. 2008 was a soft reboot but Ang Lee's Hulk is no longer considered cannon.
>>82795977
>Yes, barely.
How the fuck is something "barely" canon? Either it is ir it isnt. What would make it fully canon, being referenced in every damn movie? Can I assume that comic characters that arent reerenced by every other character dont exist in the same universe now?
You know, if there was anything I would change in the film, it would be Abominations appearance. I would make him look more like how he does in the comicbook. Not exactly like it but still recognizable.
>>82795875
It's like people completely tune out everytime it is mentioned, you have to continuously bring up how often there was even a slight reference to it. Some are still convinced it has been completely forgotten no matter how much stuff says otherwise.
>>82796387
>getting this autistic over a word
>>82797667
No fuck you it's a valid question. Lots of peolpe in this very thread have been saying things like "barely canon" and "soft canon"
>>82797667
>getting this autistic over getting autistic over a word
>>82793724
Well it was supposed to start the MCU. The reason RDJ got the deal that he got was because Marvel was still hoping, but not really betting on, the MCU would take off.
>>82793902
And the tie-in comics and video games, until they're inevitably contradicted because no one cares about them.
>>82798460
How often has that happened?
>>82788283
Tony stark cameo? explain. im not going to rewatch this crap but i dont remember tony stark :s
>>82799047
>:s
I'm going to go ahead and assume you loved Thor.
>>82799047
maybe you should rewatch the movie :^)
>>82798725
Do you mean how often have they been contradicted or how often do they come out? Because they come out before every movie. None of them have been contradicted yet, but they also play it extremely safe with what's shown. It's usually filler stuff that the movies would have to go out of their way to contradict.
About the only thing that could be contradicted was the fate of The Leader (comics showed him getting taken into shield custody by Black Widow) and the existence of skrulls (the GotG comic had someone in a Knowhere bazaar mentioned a "skrull detector.")
>>82799047
it was a post or mid-credits scene of T.Ross drinking at a bar
Tony joins him and asks him about the Hulk
I'm not sure but I think this is how he got the files they used to find the Hulk for the Avengers
>>82799653
The Consultant one-shot explained what the deal was there. World Security Council wanted Abomination on the Avengers Initiative. Abomination was under military custody with Ross having oversight, so any use of him would have to get approved by Ross. Coulson didn't want Abomination on the Avengers because he thought he was too dangerous, so he realised the only way to get Ross to not sign off on it would be to have someone so insanely obnoxious make the request that Ross would never sign off on it to spite that person.
So they got Tony to do it.
>>82798725
>>82799607
Baron Strucker, Madame Masque, and I think a few others first appeared in the games, but then versions of them wholly unrelated to those ones showed up in the films and shows.
The Incredible Hulk is a weird film in the MCU canon, in that, in and of itself, it doesn't add anything meaningful to the MCU, other than the Hulk character.
Like, IM1 introduced SHIELD, Thor introduced Loki and technically Hawkeye, IM2 brought Black Widow, and TFA introduced the Tessaract. But nothing in TIH has a real impact on the MCU, directly. It is, in most senses, a self-contained film. Ant-man is very similar, in that regard
>>82800037
As of CW, Ross can count as an addition.
>>82801401
I guess you're right, I didn't take CW into consideration.
That just leaves Ant-Man as the only "stand-alone" now
Incredible Hulk is very underrated.
>>82788260
I liked the movie and I liked Norton as Banner.
>>82791844
>shit slo-mo
>literally looks at gun when he's out of bullets
>those shit flips
>literally does no damage to Hulk
fuck off leiter, theres a reason Marvel doesn't return your calls
>>82799828
And now Tony and him are in bed together. Oh the irony.
>>82803187
Yeah, seeing that one-shot made them having to work together in CW all the sweeter. Cool that there was some pre-established animosity there.
>>82789648
>Hulk actually gets bigger and stronger as he gets more angry
Stronger? Yes. Bigger? I don't think so, if that was the case then he'd be even more OP than his normal incarnation since he'd be a 50 ft. green man with cosmic level strength if he was angry enough and that sounds fucking scary and silly.
>>82788479
>I think you know very well what I mean, anon.
I genuinely don't.
>>82802804
it really isn't
>>82788439
I actually liked the Hulk dogs, that was a cool concept, I was kinda hoping we'd see them in a Hulk sequel or in Infinity War
>>82788525
The TV shows are soft canon.
>>82804497
there's no such thing as soft canon something is either canon or non-canon there is no middle ground
>>82788637
How are there two?
You're not counting Nick Nolte are you? Cause that's pre-Iron Man era. Only Creel from AoS.
>>82790278
All the Iron Man films fucking suck except for the first one
>>82793724
Cho didn't cameo, but Rick Jones name is in the opening
>>82798460
Games are not canon, Will Pilgrim said so on Twitter
>no mention that SHIELD fought Cal's Crazy Criminals at the university Hulk fought Blonsky
>>82788327
>Yes, it is, but 'soft' canon. Don't expect it to be referenced.
I know I'm responding to a post that's over 12 hours old, but what the fuck are you talking about? It has been referenced multiple times. It's as canon as any other MCU movie and I have no idea why anyone thinks otherwise.
