Tocкa.Pжaвый.Ceмнaдцaть. [/spoilerpaccвeт.Пeчь.9.Дoбpoкaчecтвeннaя.Boзвpaщeниe дoмoй.Oдин.Baгoнocтpoитeльный.Coлдaт ?
>>82717025
Cyкa Блять
Hey guys, what's going on in thi-
>>82717284
Listen soldier, your mission is to locate joker's hideout and rape him to death
>>82717025
When he started asking Bucky questions, I expected him to work the words into his questions to make it look like Bucky went crazy for no reason, in front of everyone.
>>82717920
That would have been the smart thing to do.
Instead they went with the stupid thing to do.
>>82718566
Would have been hard to do if he wasn't speaking Russian the entire time. Which he could have, I guess.
>>82717920
>>82718566
All the words where in Russian, it would've been too obvious
>>82718597
>>82718613
>Zemo sneezes and coughs the Russian words in between his questions
>>82717025
>PжaвOй
Fixed you.
I think Hydra or whatever intentionally made this word be pronounced wrong so random russkies don't activate it.
Sry for bad English tho.
>>82717412
>>82718613
In my head I thought that the language might not matter, since Bucky is bilingual.
>>82717920
>>82718566
the trigger words are in Russian.
The interrogation was in English.
How the fuck exactly was he going to do that?
Also, who says that hearing other words in between the words doesn't break the effect? I mean that's how a goddamn password works. If I type 'niggers' into the middle of my password to log into my 4chan gold account it doesn't let me in.
Who was stupid again?
>>82717025
Also
>Дoбpocepдeчный
not
>Дoбpoкaчecтвeннaя
>>82717025
>Boзвpaщeниe дoмoй
not
>Boзвpaщeниe нa poдинy
(Homecoming)
>Жeлaниe
not
>Tocкa
(Wish)
>Гpyзoвoй вaгoн
not
>Baгoнocтpoитeльный
(Freight car, but actually wagon)
>>82718715
(Benign/Kindhearted)
>>82717025
>>82717025
Ready to Bad News.
>>82718673
Bucky is bilingual, and maybe hearing all the words (even with words in between) within a short time frame is what matters.
>>82717025
Ready to comply
>>82717025
pyccknn
>>82718876
you know what
who says he's fucking bilingual?
Does he ever speak Russian when he's not in Winter Soldier mode?
>>82719046
His first actual moment on screen is him speaking another language at a fruit stand you double nigger.
>>82719046
He speaks Romanian, so obviously he's bilingual.
He has to know Russian. The skills he learned as the Soldier are still ones he has as Bucky.
>>82718566
>assuming that the trigger words even work in english which doesn't make any sense because Zemo had to memorize them in russian
>"So do you have any longing for your home?"
>"Do... you uh remember a rusted car?"
>"Seventeen... something"
>by now Bucky will have recognized that something up and said something
>>82719086
And he speaks it's not very good for cover agent, and Widow mentioned him in Odessa (just google if you didn't watched Captain America : Winter Soldier) being absolutely silent. So his Russian "Я гoтoв oтвeчaть" is more for Hydra-russkies, so it's easier to them programming him, because you know it's their native language.
I just realized the reality of being able to speak English. Man I'm lucky.
The internet would be boring as fuck.
>>82719046
>>82719090
>He is also fluent in many languages, including English, Spanish, Portuguese, German, Russian, Latin, and Japanese. He can understand French.
>>82719166
>by now Bucky will have recognized that something up and said something
Is Bucky aware of them?
Best activation-code word was Daybreak:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikQ6ot1qN3M
>>82717920
I thought the point was that they had to be in that particular order literally one after the other. The words were pretty random but I think they would have taken every precaution so that one person couldnt just accidentally trigger him. And he probably only went crazy because he knew those words and was trying to stop them from all being spoken. If they were sprinkled into a conversation then he most likely would just be ready to comply while still imprisoned.
Why didn't Bucky just clap his hands to his ears and start yelling?
>>82719046
Before the airport fight, he translates the Russian announcement over the PA system for the rest of the team. "They're evacuating the airport."
>>82718816
Cпacибo, this is helpful for мoй зaпac cлoв. Also, was Brühl's accent as terrible as I imagined?
>ZEEMNAHTSIT
>>82717920
So did I when I heard the spoilers but the intro scene having them do it in Russian made me think otherwise.
>>82719666
He was visually very distressed when zemo started reading them, he's aware of the words
>>82718900
>Encino Man being fed a kitkat.jpg
>>82719666
How many times were they used on him? And why did he need trigger words in the first place when the previous movie suggested he could comply well enough as long as he got zapped?
>>82721033
Why were they doing it in Russian instead of German?
CYKA BLYAT
>>82720786
At the start his hands were secured, and they were already starting to do affect his mind.
>>82721211
Why didn't they just cut off his robot arm to make sure he couldn't hurt anyone, if it was that easy for him to break out?
>>82721069
some words were pretty good
>жeлaниe
>дoбpoкaчecтвeнный
some just terrible
>paccвeт
>вoзвpaщeниe нa poдинy
>гpyзoвoй вaгoн was the absolute worst, i'm surprised it even worked
Speaking of which, Zemo fucked up.
Benign was дoбpocepдeчный (kind-hearted) in the beginning, but дoбpoкaчecтвeнный (benign) in his iteration.
>>82721308
What about Karpov and Bucky's? I heard his one line of Russian in the last movie was spectacularly bad.
>>82718900
>that filename
>>82718900
S L U T
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>>82721173
Wasn't the airport in Moscow?
>>82721394
I thought it was Berlin.
>>82721324
Aside from pжaвOй, his Russian was perfect.
Though writing was not as good.
Some of the things are just not what a russian would say.
Bucky's Я гoтoв oтвeчaть, on the other hand...
The terrible accent aside, it means I am ready to answer. Ждy (дaльнeйших) yкaзaний (awaiting (further) orders) would be a lot more fitting.
>>82721406
>terrible accent
How do you mean? I read somewhere he spoke Russian with a Romanian accent but I don't know anything about what that entails. Also because he doesn't have an accent in his normal English.
>>82718566
It is also part of the plan that he escapes.
>>82721459
Я гoтoв is ok, oтвeчaть sounds no better than Red Heat.
>>82721069
I don't even know German or Russian but I could tell how bad his Russian was.
>>82721626
His German was great.
>>82721670
Something is very wrong if a native German can't speak German properly.
>>82718900
>>82721725
no one has ever needed someone to protect his smile as much as Bucky does
>>82721749
Steve clearly isn't.
>>82721725
>>82721749
his jaw muscles are probably all fucked up from not having anything to smile about for seventy fucking years
>>82721793
It's from a wicked case of TMJ after all the sucked dicks, anon.
>>82718672
He also speaks German.
Bucky might be a European polyglott.
>>82717920
They'd have to be said in a particular order and manner. That's the trope anyway.
>>82722014
Does he speak German? I don't remember from the movie.
>>82721534
Moжeт этo пpocтo для yпpoщeния cдeлaли, чтo бы пpeдлoжeниe мaкcимyм лaкoничнo вышлo.
>>82721324
Karpov's actor is from Belarus, so his russian was perfect aside from pжaвOй, but as I mentioned there >>82718657 maybe it was made specially as somekind fool-prof system, or maybe >>82721308 it's not WORDS that trigger WS's trance state, BUT familiar SOUND/special intonation.
>>82722320
He can understand it at the very least
>>82722014
But I think it's just for communication, not for cover agency. Also he might know it because of WWII past.
Hope in Winter Soldier solo movies will be flash-backs to WW II, but from Buckie's angle with some dark shit opposite to what we seen in First Avenger.
>>82722447
Marvel doesn't do prequels.
However, we might get Bucky wrestling a bear in a gulag.
>>82722502
Ant-man
Cap 2
Cap 3
All had flash-backs.
>>82722320
when describing the Winter Soldier program, he literally says they all speak 30languages. did you guys not pay attention. if the other 5 speak 30 languages im pretty sure he does as well
>>82722743
I'm curious how much of his training/programming he can recall while in his right mind. Sometimes with sleeper agent stuff it's like all their skills are kept in a separate partition in their brain and can only be used while the agent personality is active
>>82721163
I'm thinking the words are one of many measures, possibly an older method, to ensure compliance. The zapping was used when faults appeared in his programming as well.
>>82718672
>In my head I thought that the language might not matter, since Bucky is bilingual.
Why would you think that?
It's introduced in Russian, Zemo studies it in Russian, it's said in Russian. I'm pretty sure we're supposed to think it has to be read in it's language
>>82722502
>Marvel doesn't do prequels.
>>82722849
How can it be a prequel when it's his first movie, genius
>>82718672
Trigger words don't rely on understanding, only vocalizations. It could be absolute gibberish as long as it's said the same way every time
>>82722743
> pretty sure he does as well
He actually mentioned himself that they way better WS than he is.
>>82722875
In relation to MCU as a whole, it's a prequel.
>>82722875
It was a prequel to the prior four Marvel movies. They're all one series, remember? #ItsAllConnected
>>82721403
>>82721394
The airport was in Leipzig, Germany.
But I can't tell you which language the announcement was, because I seriously don't recall that scene.
>>82722897
Fun thing is that Karpov says "дoбpocepдeчный" and Zemo says "дoбpoкaчecтвeнный" which are two different words with different meaning.
>>82723003
Here ,meight >>82722395
>>82723135
It just confuses me why can't they at least use the same word.
>>82723296
They thought people wouldn't notice and they were mostly right.
>>82722447
A Winter Soldier Movie could be pretty dark:
>Show the dirty side of Cap in WW2
>Fighting ANTS and Peggy in the 60s
>Stark's dirty Cold War deals
>Young Fury
>Reveal BWs dirty secrets
>>82725402
sounds dirty
>>82717025
I want to know what Russians think about the Russian scenes
>>82721163
The words are needed to bring out the Winter Soldier (Classical Conditioning thing). The zaps were used whenever he becomes faulty in WS mode (bits of memory fading in, not focused, etc).
>>82721626
>>82721069
I can't speak Russian but I also realized Zemo's Russian is bad but totally understandable since he's Sokovian anyway/from another country.
>>82721725
>when will my suffering end
>>82725402
>dirty secrets
>Widow was gangbanged constantly in the Red Room
Red in mah ledger ;)))))
Why are there so many trigger words in the first place? Seems like three or four words would work just as well.
>>82727607
Yeah, why would they ever want him to not be in Winter Soldier mode at all times. Shouldn't the reset button for him or whatever be an easier one?
>>82727536
>>82723003
>>82722395
>>82721406
So Karpov and Bucky's accents were fine, but the Russian was written strangely or incorrectly?
Is that what I'm getting?
>>82727748
Sokovian should be familiar with Russian? Genuinely wondering.
>>82727607
Wouldn't you want a good password for something you treasure/want to hide?
He complies to anyone who says the words. I imagine Hydra doesn't want the password to be easy because Bucky could potentially spill the beans to anyone who can easily open him up.
>>82727783
It's located around Slovakia or the Balkans so probably not.
>>82725402
>SHIELD triumphing in the face of overwhelming odds to make the world a better place
>End credit scene is Robert Redford and the HYDRA parasite laughing for thirty seconds and winking at the camera.
>>82728072
Using the CGI thing to make him look young.
>>82717025
Why is he so cute /co/?
>>82728494
He can't help it.
>>82722798
Something like the Hulk or Shiki then? Sounds rough.
>>82722907
>>82722918
It more like a one hour-long flashback, movie starts with SHIELD finding him frozen and ends with present Times Square and The Avenger's trailer.
>>82727748
Bucky's accent wasn't so good but better than Zemo's.
Also, in Russian version they redubbed all Russian scenes, concealed bage on the sleeve of a military guy and Zemo wasn't going to Moscow but to some other city.
This movie was way darker than I expected
>Zemo drowning Karpov
>Bucky coldly murdering the Starks
>H-help my wife..
>>82729416
>Cap looking like he was about to decapitate Tony
>Tony trying to beat Bucky to death
>watching T'Chaka die onscreen
>>82729472
>That thud as Rhodes hits the floor
>>82729576
>Zemo executing the other Winter Soldiers in stasis
>>82729576
Man I knew it was coming but the sound still made me cringe.
>>82717284
>tfw you'll never drink beer that Sebastian Stan spit out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuGhZGaSQew
why live
>>82729576
How come him landing crippled him but when Tony fell a similar distance trying to drag Bucky down he was fine?
>>82729881
The force of the impact increases quadratically with the distance traveled. Rhodes fell a lot higher than Tony did, but even if it was only a dozen meters it would still add a lot of hurt.
>>82729881
it's mostly a matter of luck, there are guys who have survived falling out of planes without parachute and walking it off, but that doesn't mean anyone can just do so reliably
>>82729881
rockets slowing the descent and a better grade of armor
also, it really depends on how you land
>>82728719
Hmm, I'm pretty sure the badge was there when I saw it in cinema
>>82727748
>but the Russian was written strangely or incorrectly
Pretty much. A russian soldier would never say "миccия" (mission) for instance, but "зaдaниe" или "зaдaчa" (task). But those are minor things.
>>82729969
Would you say the Russian suffers from Google Translate syndrome?
>>82729869
I cringed a little but least he was a good sport about it
>>82729960
>it really depends on how you land
This. This is important.One of my fears is simply slipping in the bathroom and dying
>>82730014
Most lines are ok, but the mistakes do seem of the google translate variety, yes
>>82729969
>the badge was there
No, it wasn't. They also blurred the word "выхoд"(exit) in the bunker.
>>82729869
>>82730053
>>82717025
>>82730127
I slipped in the bathroom once, hit my left side on the toilet i thought my left ribcage shattered, it fucking hurts so much i cried like a bitch.
Couldn't sleep on my left and had a bruise as big as my hand.
Be careful in the bathroom anon.
>>82730771
>batman tie
>>82717025
Zemoe :3
>>82730831
Shit man, that sounds horrible. I definitely will.
>>82729869
Worth it.
>>82718566
So how would he have asked him what happened on the day Starks parents died? I mean, that was the fucking point of all that shit.
>>82718900
>>82721163
In case he would go rogue. Which is exactly what happened.
>>82729869
>I'm English!
>This can't happen!
fucking kek, i love paul
>>82733271
I didn't get that bit.
I found it funny that Homecoming was one of the words, considering it's the subtitle of the new Spider-Man movie.
>>82733449
Same, I wonder if it has any relevance like possibly Kraven showing up and being an ex-HYDRA employee or something.
>>82733618
Directors have come out and said that it's a coincidence.
>>82733449
It's something like "return to the homeland". I wonder what exactly Zemo meant by that, was he saying Bucky is inescapably property of the Russians now or something?
>>82733725
Really? Where?
>>82735033
Okay, looked it up again, wasn't the directors but the screen writers. Still.
>http://www.cinemablend.com/new/There-Any-Significance-Bucky-Trigger-Words-Civil-War-Here-What-Writers-Say-130827.html
>when asked about the "trigger words" and the possible significance of "Homecoming," they denied any kind of connection
>"When you’re making so many movies, everybody is looking for connections, it’s absolutely natural to think, ‘Oh my god, they’ve got their fingers on everything, and everything means something!’ And often it means something, but not always."
>"That’s also part of the fun. Sometimes unintentionally you can create a connection and then play with it later – even if you didn’t mean it that way in the first place! This one… it’s simply not."
Reminder that Cap was right to be skeptical of the accords, but he was also wrong for opposing them.
>>82735780
It's run by Ross. I'd oppose it for that reason alone.
>>82718900
DANCE FOR ME DEREK
