Good evening owls of /co/,
Awww goddammit
>>82675364
1) we JLI now
2) what was good today?
Major Force
>>82675578
DC's offerings today were pretty eh
And Vision was good as usual
>>82675614
A descendant of the great Roman patriarch, Force Majeure.
>>82675578
An interesting comment found on TVTropes:
>Bear in mind also that in the Bates and Weisman series, he was written as a former special operations officer, and was portrayed realistically as such. For those who don't know, it has often been said that if they weren't the most badass soldiers in the world, they would be hippies. Indeed, Cap more or less did become a hippy once he left the service during the Bates-Weisman run. The more hawkish government stooge portrayal came quite a bit later from writers who were obviously unfamiliar with the character or just didn't care.
I can't say I know any ex-spec-ops dudes, tho
dat purple dressing gown
>>82675578
Edge of Oblivion was, unsurprisingly, meh today
I am not sure what exactly rubs me the wrong way about Taylor's writing so much, or if my residual saltiness from what he did to Earth 2 just makes me zero in on all his flaws more so than I do to other writers
>>82675625
I liked Vision a lot today. Ultimates continues to be decent, and I thought Black Panther was more interesting than the first issue. The Vision thread had some serious King backlash going on in it.
>>82675670
His Wolverine is pretty close to being good but it's not and that pisses me off
>>82675705
speaking of King backlash, there was a guy on Twitter being all "I'm not reading Batman because as an ex-CIA guy, he was an enabler of torture"
>>82675721
People go nuts for the new Wolverine and I just don't get it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw9dK2hrr1A
>>82675747
I was wondering when those kinda comments would happen.
>>82675747
Everyone has something they are proud of.
>>82675721
I can't stand X-23 so I haven't read his Wolverine at all
but Taylor's Edge of Oblivion, his Bats/Supes arc and nearly all of Injustice make me grind my teeth
>>82675747
When Omega Men was just starting I saw some people complaining that kicking it off with a "beheading" video was Islamophobic and since he was counter-terrorism obviously King himself is Islamophobic!
people make weird assumptions
>>82675578
Ultimates explains where Thanos got his 90's gun.
One Anon suggested that Ewing just likes fixing the continuity fuck-ups other writers do.
>>82675721
I know people who like it, what's not good about it?
>>82675670
I think now that I know to look for it I'll tend to find that edge of moral lecture in it that drives me low-grade crazy
>>82675578
Bandette! C'est magnifique! (as always!)
>>82675843
I think that's true but he's also solid enough independently out of that.
>>82675841
King's current stuff is very clearly informed by terrorism, counter-terrorism, hell just US foreign policy. It'd be fun if it all turned out to be a long psi-ops con.
OP is afriend
>>82675578
Jupiter's Circle ended decently.
It was a riot seeing a young version ofThe Heat
>>82675843
hah, no shit? Yeah, I think he's kind of neurotic that way, bless his heart.
This comic is so self/genre-aware but not in an obnoxious way. I'm digging this 80s Comics For Grownups feel.
>>82675841
what about Taylor's other stuff is tooth-grinding to you?
>>82675909
<3
>>82675851
I can never get Small Favors out of my head when reading Colleen Coover.
>>82675841
And funnily enough King is pretty sympathetic to all the Omega Men and his characters in Sheriff so they can be well rounded, when like you said, people were calling him islamophobic before any of the issues came out
>>82675846
>I think now that I know to look for it I'll tend to find that edge of moral lecture in it that drives me low-grade crazy
I think this plus you can generally see where he thinks he's being clever that drive me nuts
cranky if that was you in the Red Sonja thread you really have to learn to chill and not post sometimes
>>82675364
Hello Storyteller.
This cover is creepy.
>>82675928
I kind of hate myself for not hating Millar's current stuff.
Black Panther made me want a map of Wakanda on the inside cover. Continues to be good, but I'm putting a lot of faith in TNC
>>82675841
But....space religion?
>>82675937
Someone mentioned that he did something similiar when Hickman randomly gave White Tiger a sword.
I checked, during the Time Runs Out Tie-In, there's literally a page where she just steals a dude's katana.
>>82676058
>Black Panther made me want a map of Wakanda on the inside cover.
He's putting a map out at one point. Came out in the pre-series interview.
Ewing also gave Carol more motive for Civil War than Bendis has
>>82676110
I kinda assumed he was, seems like his type of nerdery
>>82675955
>see where he thinks he's being clever
That's what really turns me off Bennett
>>82675937
>what about Taylor's other stuff is tooth-grinding to you?
the same general problems all his stuff has, I suppose. Obnoxious mouth piece characters, moral lectures, blatant favoritism (which to be frank would bother me less if it favored characters I also liked, but it rarely does, so), ~I'm so clever~ scenes, the over-reliance on spectacle instead of anything of substance, Batwank and Superwank, etc.
>>82676153
Bennett isn't very good at doing different voices either IMO.
>>82676153
That turns me off of her too, also her ability to distinguish character voices is extremely poor.
>>82676047
It's cool.
I hated Chrononauts
>>82676153
>Bennett
>clever
She's as dumb as a brick. Literally the female Bendis.
>>82676181
Different voices is a skill which eludes many writers of straight fiction as well
>>82676166
Speaking of Superbatwank, the first arc of Loeb's B/S is kind of where "Captain Atom Big Old Government Stooge" gets solidified for a good long while
>>82676148
I'm not sure how good Ewing is at character development, exactly. I don't think we've seen anything incredible from him on that yet and sometimes it can feel a bit stunted or haphazard. But JFC he absolutely nails a character's deal from the first page like all the fucking time. He makes sure Carol comes across like Carol, Wanda comes across like Wanda, Dwayne comes across like Dwayne. He really is the negative of Bendis.
>>82675967
Uh, no? Suddenly -I- have to be the one to keep shit to myself? Fuck that. If I have something to say, I'll damn well say it.
>>82676294
Man I'm just worried for your blood pressure.
Read a neat interview with Steve Lightle, from out LoSH days, about why he only did 6 issues of Doom Patrol. Surprise, it was because editorial treated him poorly
> After Legion of Super-Heroes, I had serious misgivings about the idea of returning to monthly comic book production. Promises were made to entice me - most of which were reneged on as soon as possible
http://dcinthe80s.blogspot.ca/2016/05/steve-lightle-talks-about-his-1987-run.html
>>82676223
I don't think she's dumb.
>>82676251
Because this is Bennett I don't know if you mean prose stuff or fiction where the characters aren't gay!
>>82676269
I'm just talking about how like now I have an idea of why Carol would want pre-cogs
>>82676251
HELLO FANSERVICE
>>82676269
Ewing can also be very clever but I think he makes less of fuss about it, or he tucks it neatly into that strong sense of "I know who this character is" so I'm more willing to let it slide.
>>82676347
Prose fiction
>>82676348
can you summarize for someone (me) who didn't read it?
>>82676347
Nobody gives a shit what you think YOU STUPID FUCKING NIGGER
>>82676377
>can you summarize for someone (me) who didn't read it?
On which note, you must have read Thunderbolts by now right?
>>82676407
anon, chill
>>82676422
Fuck
You
OP and all of you are a bunch of faggots
>>82676409
actually...
gimme five, okay?
lol those signs
>>82676443
>>82676407
I can't believe you were triggered this hard by a single word.
Opinion-wise, though. Bennett isn't dumb. She's clearly educated and she plays around with narrative tropes a good deal. I don't like her writing and I find her tonal choices really jarring but I wouldn't describe it as dumb or stupid.
>>82676377
>can you summarize for someone (me) who didn't read it?
Basically, she suddenly got shown all the bad futures of Marvel (Age of Ultron, Days of Future Past were specifically shown, but I'm sure you know of more) and is worried about avoiding them.
>>82676448
christ, that fucking art
Moonstone's "If he's not smart enough to use his boot jets" is at least IC
that fucking art, fuck
>>82676503
One can be dumb and educated.
>>82676314
My blood pressure is fine. You should be more worried about how comics are so deeply entrenched in their own cliches that the mere idea of change is considered a cultural shift.
>>82676377
>HELLO FANSERVICE
I do wonder sometimes why this does anything for anyone. We live in an age of readily available porn, and yet a brief bit of censored nudity in a story gets people so excited. Makes no sense.
>>82676551
Do you eat soylent, too?
>>82676535
>that fucking art, fuck
Yeah it's like Liefled, but with anything remotely charming removed.
>>82676551
Why do celeb nudes get people excited?
Save us Abnett
>>82676595
o-okay, that was an issue
>>82676551
it's because porn on its own is boring, but stuff with personalities and scenarios attached is interesting
>>82676600
Also note that one of DC's Special Projects editors is listed on the book and not Eddie B, now
You can spoil me about your Thunderbolts thoughts now, anon
>>82676600
>No Dickbats or Val on that page
Nice
>>82676595
>>82676535
The art honestly doesn't bother me. I'm way more offended by stuff like that traced Lego asset than the ultra-90s style going on here.
>>82676551
Because sometimes people want context to their titillation. They want stories to their porn.
I want to know what this woman's financial situation is, that she's reduced to paying for her kitchen repairs with oral sex.
>>82676681
the no feet is kind of, well
I might be able to get into it given time, or maybe improvement
Karla's way, way too up-front aggro. Atlas' fondness for Kobik is IC, at least.
>>82676681
It's not even that 90's, it was kind of bland.
>>82676641
Why is there no pro-wrestling style porn then (not wrestling porn, but porn with wrestling-style storylines)
>>82676721
You fucking eroto-fascist misogynist piece of shit, you think a woman can't blow her plumber just because she wants to? It has to be a fucking money situation? Fuck you and fuck your patriarchal porn program, too.
>>82676641
>it's because porn on its own is boring, but stuff with personalities and scenarios attached is interesting
Then look up a doujin or something. This shit should not be in the main product.
>>82676599
Because people are idiots who are obsessed with sex due to their shithead parents and teachers never properly educating them on the subject, making it taboo and therefore, in their tiny minds, the coolest thing ever.
>>82676752
this is a fucking riot
>>82676769
I think you've hit on an untapped market, anon
>>82676551
>I do wonder sometimes why this does anything for anyone
I like to feel close to the characters I fap to
>>82676804
>>82676835
that flying position
it's not okay
>>82676675
they were still in the book, which is still too much imo
>>82676783
Why do you feel the need to hang around us unenlightened peasants then? Why don't you go find a bunch of like-minded prudes?
Have you guys read this article on comic book piracy? Very interesting stuff.
http://sktchd.com/longform/money-for-nothing-a-look-at-the-popularity-and-questionable-legality-of-free-comic-sites/
I'll freely admit I pirate comics (I don't use any sites to read them though, I download them) but I do buy the ones I like and support creators. When it comes to Big Two stuff I'm a bit pickier but I'll still support something that I feel deserves my money, like Omega Men.
>>82676752
The breakfast/base scene was the best part of it in terms of characterisation, I think. I don't like how they ran Moonstone down that route already and I really don't like it when Moonstone is the team bitch and team punching bag, and you're supposed to feel the latter is justified because of the former. I think maybe once you take out Zemo you don't have enough edge on that team and Moonstone has to carry the burden.
>>82676769
Because nobody's thought of it before. Seriously Anon, that's brilliant. Get to it.
>>82676769
> Jim Ross commentating over porn
>>82676669
>You can spoil me about your Thunderbolts thoughts now, anon
Much more interested in your opinion honestly! I did hate Kobik.
>>82676860
I believe according to the chart it's "Riding Bareback".
>>82676830
>I like to feel close to the characters I fap to
... Anon. Everyone. None of these characters are real. If you're this desperate for an emotional connection, go get a girlfriend/boyfriend/whatever.
>>82676773
>you think a woman can't blow her plumber just because she wants to?
She can, but I'm still gonna call her a whore for it. Because that's what she'd be.
>>82676974
>... Anon. Everyone. None of these characters are real. If you're this desperate for an emotional connection, go get a girlfriend/boyfriend/whatever.
naw, this is more fun
>>82675578
Kaijumax.
>>82676873
Moonstone's practical more than anything; well, her and Fixer are the practical axis while Atlas and Abe are more idealistic (Mel would be too, mostly). Abe was barely there this past issue--we need to know why he hasn't just said "screw you guys, I'm going home". Fixer's easy--Bucky's offering him challenges.
>>82676935
Kobik is about as annoying as a real kid can be but she's written more like 7 than 4
>>82676974
Where the hell do you think you are?
>>82677018
whoops
>>82676974
>None of these characters are real
Now all I can think of is how much " This is an Imaginary Story... Aren't they all" from Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow triggers John Byrne
It's a lot
>>82677054
this is not my kink
>>82676974
Can't, my girlfriend left me for Tony Stark. Last I heard, he was her husbando.
>>82677081
But it is mine.
>>82677018
Yeah, MACH-X had one moment in the entire issue and it was playing off Atlas.One way to make that interesting might have been to make it someone other than Abe.
I hate the superpowered kid with completely unlimited capabilities and no structure to how they are used. I can handle plot devices but not of that magnitude. I also really wanted to see what she turned the rats in the base into.
>>82677115
here you go
>>82676769
would surprise buttsex become the new "steel chair to the back of the head"?
>>82677135
>>82677124
Hopefully Kobik won't last as completely superpowered that long
>>82677135
Hahaha, this page is like something from Mike Baron.
>>82676985
>being a ronrey nerd is fun
I can't tell if you're serious or just plain stupid.
>>82677027
On a planet dominated by sexually obsessed apes who ironically have no idea how vaginas work and are in fact afraid to even talk about them.
>>82677186
More than anyone else I've talked to on this site, you come across like you have serious sex hang-ups cranky.That's actually a lie, there was this one female humilation artist on /tg/ who was very fucked up.
>>82677160
Couldn't he have just used a wide range energy attack on them even blind? If they die...well....
>crankyanon is a puritan autist
Huh, not really surprised.
>>82677160
so is E2 going to hard reboot? Alan steps out of the shower? ?????, PROFIT! ?
>>82677159
The porn equivalent of Shinsuke Nakamura would be something to behold.
>>82677186
Being a ronery nerd is way more fun than being the ronery guy who bitches about nerds.
>>82677248
Yet he is obsessed with yuri and slobbers over Moonstone and Circe.
>>82677264
What?
>>82677264
of course Eiling watched
>>82677081
Ben Grimm would be disgusted to hear him say that.
>>82677264
I'm gonna be sad when the reboot device is unveiled because it won't be as funny as what people imagine
>>82677318
I'm curious as to where E2 is going because clearly Abnett's been given some kind of fix-it mandate but it feels like that means "write a story that leads to a retcon button push"
>>82677186
According to Grant Morrison all our waifus and husbandos are real in some place so it's OK.
>>82677307
Assuages his male guilt I suppose.
>>82677160
With the whole thing - like even down to the design choices and the artist - I think there might have been a real aim at nostalgia. The situation in Pleasant Hill parallels to some extent the original origin of the Thunderbolts. With Bucky swapped for Zemo, it's the original gang. Their headquarters are run-down (until they get a spruce-up), their first villain is some kind of weird biological experiment thing, they've taken in a young girl who doesn't understand the dual natures deal going on.
>>82677360
colorist seems to have forgotten that Babylon's not a white dude
it happens, sigh
>>82677321
I guess it's his fetish too.
>>82677229
I wouldn't have hang ups about sex if my species didn't make it the end all be all of their existence. Even here, >>82677264 you can just see the big stupid grin on Storyteller's face as she's drooling over that Dallas reference.
Honestly, it's just shameful.
>>82677268
Hold on, you think this shit is fun for me? I hate having to point out how goddamn stupid people are being.
>>82677376
Both Circe and Karla own their sexualities pretty hard though.
>>82677414
>I wouldn't have hang ups about sex if my species didn't make it the end all be all of their existence.
I mean, in practical terms...
>>82677405
So here's an aspect of the Captain that will fluctuate over time: is the metal removable? is he human underneath?
By the time we get to Generation Lost, he can't change back any more. And he blows up a lot in that series.
>>82677414
lol@u, cranky
>>82677449
>And he blows up a lot in that series.
How unusual!
>>82677449
>Generation Lost
ugh that story. I remember getting mad at /co/ for being blinded by JLI love/nostalgia
>>82677449
#relatable
>>82677482
and whenever he blows up, he takes a jaunt forward in time and then springs back
>>82677382
Huh, I can see that.
>>82677449
I'm so glad Major Force is around. I can have a villain I love to hate, instead of just Eiling who I hate
>>82677495
I want to know what Winick was smoking wrt Tora's background, that was just ugly ugly shit
>>82677581
>>82677495
I loved it at first, but it quickly wore thin on me. I can only take so many issues of Booster and Co. getting their asses handed to them and retreating, with nothing to show for any of it. Also fucked with Peej's solo.
Loved Chiang's covers though.
>>82677603
>>82677642
>>82677520
I just want Zemo back. We just had a movie where he was all clever and competent and trying to fuck with Cap and Bucky. And his plan in it was basically totally insane.
Give me that instead of HA HA I KILL YOU NOW SHIELD MAN LISTEN TO ME MONOLOGUE!
>>82677659
HI TED
>>82677696
bwahaha time for best League
>>82677696
Mister Miracle! Is he going to do anything?
>>82677307
>>82677420
Karla is worst when written as a slut. And Circe isn't really demonstrably promiscuous.
Also, you guys do know the appeal of yuri has almost nothing to do with sex right?
>>82677447
Practical my ass. We're the dominate species. Nothing short of deliberate extermination would wipe us out. There's no 'practical' need to be so up our own asses about reproduction, especially since so many people are ignorant about it.
>>82677690
yes that would be nice
>>82677581
It's like hr thought 'Roma need representation', then he decided the best way to achieve that was to change the background of a character in a way that was bizarre and stereotypical.
>>82677778
>Also, you guys do know the appeal of yuri has almost nothing to do with sex right?
Hoooly shit. You need to talk to some dykes, anon.
>>82677753
>Mr. Miracle
>only superpower is to gtfo
I'm sure he'll think of something.
>>82677780
>>82677803
Roma need rep--let's make them actual horrible thieves
>>82677843
Don't talk shit about my couplefu.
>>82677854
>>82677894
this is probably in line with that weird Firestorm stuff
>>82677778
>Also, you guys do know the appeal of yuri has almost nothing to do with sex right?
Oh my god, you're one of those "girl love is pure" people, aren't you?
>>82677778
>Also, you guys do know the appeal of yuri has almost nothing to do with sex right?
>>82677894
kek @ that middle panel
>>82677910
>>82677803
>>82677854
Yeah the same thing happened with Grayson when she tried to make Dick romani too. She did have Batman and Barbara act OOC and the one of the characters introduced during that arc was basically a stereotype, like he thought Dick was just mooching off of Bruce.
They probably meant well, but they did it in the most stereotypical way possible since research is hard and she did it like more than a decade ago.
Zub said this on Twitter.
>Baron-Citizen-Vemo may appear at some future juncture...
>>82677967
>>82678077
about goddamn time
>>82678018
it's weird with some of that junk we're getting to the point where it's like "that was how it was at the time" with stuff like that.
>>82677803
>>82677854
>>82678018
And there's also Scarlet Witch. But nobody complains about that since Wanda dresses like a stripper. Stereotypes are evidently okay if you can jerk off to them.
>>82678077
Fuck it, Citizen V again (again!). I've got to at least read it to that.
>>82678094
>y halo thar
>>82678094
Those discs are an innovative way to cut out feet.
>>82678103
Anon, have you seen what she looks like now?
>>82678103
Yeah I still find it funny how Perez didn't like Vibe since he was collection of stereotypes but he gave Wanda that outfit
>>82678128
>>82678103
She only dressed like a stripper under Perez, and I was personally OK with that because Perez is always cheeky, cheerful, and, more importantly, respectful about his cheesecake.
>>82678199
trash talk is essential to heroing
>>82677827
Do you think Dykes to Watch Out For by Alison Bechdel would be a appropriate recommendation for Cranky?
>>82678173
Yeah, in New Avengers, where she gives really weird, vague marriage advice like she was a madam in a bad noir flick. Your point?
>>82678103
Wanda isn't a "Gypsies are thieves" stereotype, she's "Gypsies are magic and curse people" stereotype. Which I think is more ridiculous, and therefore less offensive.
I've never heard the "gypsies dress like strippers" stereotype before. Instead of making up stereotypes, why don't you go jerk off to lesbians while you tell yourself it's not porn?
>>82678244
Nah, people actually fuck in that.Fun Home might be better, if you get my gist.
>>82678223
>)
While Zub's actual writing is divisive, I do give the man credit for doing his research. I listened to a podcast where he went over his top 5 T-Bolts (Moonstone, Songbird, Fixer, Atlas, and Man-Thing), and he certainly knows his shit.
>>82678244
I don't think those lesbians are hot enough for him to get off on.
>>82675578
i gave that speech on the legion monday and i went over relatively well (despite the projector breaker and we had to use the computer screen)
>>82678298
>>82678302
link?
>>82678302
Fingers crossed he delivers on writing them then.
>>82678326
SURPRISE GUEST
>>82678325
Haha, really? What kinda stuff did you talk about? That's neat, anon.
>>82678259
How about in her solo series, where she dresses COMPLETLY differently, and in much more covering clothes.
>>82678350
We /elemental/ now. Just need Firestorm to show up again.
>>82678350
SPEAKING OF MAN-THING
>>82678326
http://geektopfive.com/index.php/2016/04/24/geek-top-five-episode-4/
It starts at 33:23.
>>82678401
Didn't they try to make Aquaman a water elemental too?
>>82678350
time for Swampy /d/
>>82678207
>cheesecake
>respectful
That's an oxymoron.
>>82678244
Oh fuck that noise. The Bechdel Test is pointless pissing in the wind that even Bechdel herself eventually realized didn't actually help further any feminist interests. When the person who came up with the idea turns around and says "My bad, this is actually really dumb.", that's when it's time to retire it. Then again, people STILL use polygraphs, so people are kind of fucking stupid that way.
>>82675364
Heyho, storyteller.
I just realized at work today that all this Eiling dickery might actually make Nate turning into Monarch make some kind of sense, motivation wise.
Like if you get screwed over that much why wouldn't you go full global conquest?
>>82678350
>>82678458
The Bechdel Test, famous as it may be outside it, is not even a footnote in that comic.
>>82678297
I just checked my copy of Fun Home. There's a sex scene with the author.
>>82678446
the good Captain could be a dancer
>>82678458
kys cranky, kys
>>82678512
Pretty Avatar look there.
>>82678512
>>82678368
talked about the legions publication series and its origin mentioned how shooter wrote for them for a while talked about the cartoon a bit
>>82678428
I think that was in Brightest Day?
>>82678570
DTWOF is pretty solid newspaper comic slice of life.
>>82678283
Really? You've never heard of the hot gypsy woman thing? I mean, did you think Esmerelda just kind of came out of nowhere? Fairly common archetype.
>>82678381
Didn't people get really fucking mad at that book when Wanda noted there was a difference in female and male magic? Speaking of ignorance of common archetypes.
>>82678621
>>82678590
What was the theme of the talk?
>>82678458
>claims yuri isn't sexual
>rambles about some meme test when somebody points you to a comic that is actually written by a lesbian that explores sexuality
>has the gall to call other people stupid
>>82678503
I was more thinking of the weirdly repressed gay dad.
>>82678627
No question Bechdel is a great cartoonist but she's so whiny in the strip that I find it hard going (not that the whining is portrayed positively).
>>82678647
Canary is the best
>>82678683
and now, dream sequences in the buff
>>82678631
There were threads about it, yeah.
Personally my issue was that this is a setting with Doctor Strange in it, so it's not like only women could use magic.
I've only barely followed it, so I don't know if they've shown what makes it different.
>>82678631
Yeah, but that's hot, not stripper. Esmeralda wore a fairly covering blouse and skirt.
>>82678683
This outfit is so different to the design she has now but I think if it were modernized it would still look pretty slick.
>>82678503
>a sex scene
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>82678699
>>82678679
Yeah, I totally get that. I've only read the Essential collection which I figure would water it down some and I got that feeling. it helps that she uses it for a punchline a lot
>>82678731
I'm a little surprised no one's tried to update it instead of going to the fishnets and leather well again
dammit captcha
>>82678795
>>82678813
>>82678654
i was an informational speech so as long as it was informative it could be anything so i just chose to talk about the legions history
>>82678850
heeeeeey!
>>82678854
That's cool. I'm glad it was well received to some extent, there's no way I could reveal my power level like that.
>>82678880
did anyone else notice some Marvel books plugging old stuff in that back today? Vision and Ultimates both had some "Enjoyed this? Here are some other stuff from history you can find in comic shops or Marvel Unlimited" I really liked it.
>>82678894
I'm debating doing my final thesis on Legion something just as a total Fuck it all
>>82678909
>how did we get here
>>82678676
Anon. Let me make something clear, since obviously I haven't already. I have no interest in fiction which explores sexuality in any form. Maybe it's shallow, but I just want to see cute chicks fall in love and do cute things together. If I want to see women fuck each other, that's what the porn is for. I don't really know why you people can't get it through your thick nerd skulls that mainline fiction and porn are two different things that have and shall remain separate, but I'm just gonna tell you that's the case.
So yes, I am calling you stupid. You're stupid from bringing up Allison Bechdel and her comics, and you're stupid for being a screechy ape who's obsessed with your own and others' genitals. You're stupid for arguing this point again and again, even though you'd get your wish of me shutting up if you'd let this shit go and let others have their own opinions on the matter, as I have had to in the past.
We clear, anon?
>>82678927
(Red Tornado both sucks and blows)
>>82678927
>>82678924
it was like there were editors involved, editing!
keep in mind this is 1987 and they're maybe catching people up to post-Crisis continuity
>>82678971
Never.
>>82678995
How he has persisted this long, I'll never understand. Has there ever been an interesting comic about Red Tornado?
>>82679003
> editor Denny O'Neil
I think I found the answer
>>82679003
HI HENRY
we miss you, you were going to be adorable and French once upon a reboot
>>82678971
>even though you'd get your wish of me shutting up if you'd let this shit go and let others have their own opinions on the matter
Oh please, like you never get rustled by other people's opinions
>>82676448
Man, Nate really needs to get Batman to set him up with a new alias.
>>82679081
oh shit, Death is skiing on in
>>82679081
>we miss you
Speak for yourself, if there's one character who both sucks and blows it's Brainwave fucking Jr.
>>82679109
100% Kirby~
>>82679084
There's a reason we call him Cranky Anon.
>>82679109
Is this the arc where they screw up Death or is that later?
>>82679062
No, he had his own solo mini by Busiek at some point and it was completely middle of the road
His best role may be in Young Justice, the comic, where he's sort of the chaperon to Tim, Impulse, and Superboy
> I thought I was incapable of human emotions, but you proved me wrong. I feel annoyed
>>82679133
>>82679003
Maybe it's just cause all the bad stuff has faded from memory but it's crazy how after Crisis we had all this crazy good stuff coming out and each subsequent reboot seems not to be able to reach that output.
>>82679084
Well of course I do, but when I express that frustration, somehow I always end up as the bad guy. So more often than not, I have to be the one who drops the matter before everyone gangs up on me.
>>82679133
>Black Racer
>literally the only "black" thing about him is his skin color
Jesus, and Kirby was supposed to be quite the SJW for the time.
>>82679174
we've forgotten the bad stuff to some extent.
>>82679084
He always bitches about others' opinions, then when people call him out on it suddenly the right to have an opinion is the most sacred thing and why must you persecute him so?
>>82678795
Agreed
>>82679062
I liked in Yong Justice, but maybe I was just amused by the "I must have real human emotions, why else would I want so smack you all upside the head?" angle.
>>82679207
>>82679207
I was gonna bring up trinity to counter this but then thought about how Morrison, Snyder/Capullo, and Azz/Chiang aren't slouches
>>82679250
Poor Infinitors. So many of them got Bad End.
>>82679206
> only thing black is his skin color
He's DEATH anon.
>>82679131
Mr. Mind, please.
>>82679246
>>82679163
Curmudgeon Tornado sounds endearing at least. Really need to get around to reading Young Justice.
>>82679273
That's because nobody cares about them. Fucking lame ass pieces of shit.
>>82679273
thanks for getting metaphysical with me
more tomorrow
>>82679329
Thank you
>>82678924
speech anon here go for it
the only thing you have to lose is the respect of a few assholes in your class who weren't even worth it
>>82679206
Yeah, and he was. It was the 70's, you could still call black guys Black _____.
>>82679325
maybe this is really not quite the storytime for you
>>82679329
Thanks for posting as always, Storyteller.
The Black Racer is weird.
>>82676860
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-Bj-7b0rC4
>>82678971
not that anon but doesn't yuri literally mean lesbian sexual relations like how yaoi mean gay sexual relations while the term for girls love is like shounen-something
>>82679423
Shoujo-Ai, actually.
Don't ask why I know that.
>>82679325
You're no fun.
>>82679413
Since we were talking about lesbians, it got me thinking about the explanation about lesbian fujoshis.
>>82679405
>The Black Racer is weird.
Yeah he's easily on the list of worse Kirby designs
>>82677375
That idea's way older than Morrison, anon.
>>82677894
I know most people hate it, but I actually like that Black Canary suit. If only Fishnets & leather jacket weren't better and Dinah's look since day 1.
Someone needs to repurpose that suit someday.
>>82678198
Wanda's best outfit was Force Works.
