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Worst villains thread?
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>>82658416
If you're going to post one of the Headsmen, at least post Shrunken Bones.

You know, the guy who's "power" is that he shrunk himself slightly, though not his skin.
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>>82658416
Fleshlight head?
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>>82658416
Can I have sex with her head?
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>>82658446

Why isn't he shorter?

>>82658455

Thursday Rubinstein, a mad scientist who replaced her own head with a ruby-like sphere larger on the inside than out. It has strange capacities, such as radiant energy projection.
She calls herself Ruby Thursday.

Somebody presented this to an editor and the editor was like "Sure, why not".

Her teammates are a man who has a (partially, I guess) shrunken skeleton, a gorilla with the head of a man and a failed wizard who has been reduced to a head mounted on a mechanical, spider-like body.

And what do they call themselves, you think?

Mind you, they did cooperate with MODOK for a while.
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>>82658481

I think you probably could. Although that's just a reflection. It's actually an opaque sphere.
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>>82658518
Shouldn't she fucking die if you punch her head?
If she wants everyone to have one and it's beneficial, why doesn't she insist on giving them to her cohorts?
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>>82658416
>>82658518
>>82658488
Honestly she doesn't seem that bad as villains go.

Sure she's crazy but thats not uncommon, and he strange appearance seems to come with some pretty substantial super powers so works out well for her? She certainly sounds like she has it better than her teammates, they are the only real dead-weight involved.
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>>82658416
I'd Rub her stein
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>>82658518
I like her head here, lighting makes it look like she has eyes and a lit fuse on the back
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>>82658416
There are no bad villains, only villains that haven't had a good story yet.
Pic related.
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>>82658416
>Ruby Thursday
>literally Best girl in Marvel
>worst villain

you fucking faggot. I hope you choke to death on your own dick
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Is this just a Ruby Thursday appreciation thread now?
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>>82658599
>>literally Best girl in Marvel
But that's Kamala. Fucking fight me, infidel!
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>>82658643
Absolutely.

I thought I was the only one who loved her.
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>>82658416
It better be her personality you don't like anon or I'm going to have to revoke your decent taste card
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>>82658416
A bit too old, but it'll do.
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>not liking a Steve Gerber creation
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>>82658416
>>82658446
Gorilla-Man and Chondu the Mystic are also pretty damn weird
But I like the Head Men, they were bad guys but they mostly got along pretty well.
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>>82658786
Agreed, omnipotent character should be used sparingly.
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>>82658416
Well this thread is off to a bad start.
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>>82658830
>tfw you will never be kissed by those lips

S U F F E R I N G
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>>82658416
>worst villains thread
>posts a classic 10/10 Steve Gerber character
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>>82658538
Seeing as she can suicide-bomber-headbutt the hulk into unconsciousness and walk away alright I don't think so.
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>>82658830
Why is Nighthawk such a faggot?
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>>82658488
>And what do they call themselves, you think?

Unfortunate?
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>>82658582
oh that's right, the Phoenix Force possessed a neo nazi before becoming Jean Grey
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>>82658643
This artist's colors makes her look all veiny and corpselike, like a Bubblehead Nurse or something. Is that intentional?

I mean, it's still hot either way, but reanimated headless corpse hits a different kink than just a normal headless girl.
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>>82659151

Because he's a parody of Batman.
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>>82658416
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>>82659307
...you know what? I like the way the people on this team think. Where do I sign up for a gumball head and a She-Hulk body?
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>>82659307
>What have you done to me this time.
>This time.
>Implying this isn't the first time Nagn has put his head on a woman's body.

This thread has convinced me that the headmn are less villains and more likely into weird sex stuff.
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>>82659151

That wasn't the real Nighthawk, it was Valkyrie's husband disguised as Nighthawk in a shitty attempt of the Defenders to fool the Headmen.

>>82658546
>>82658864

What's funny that the Headmen look like a proto version of the Brotherhood of Dada if you think about it. Their plans usually involved chaotic shit but they weren't really evil.
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>>82658830
>you will never get a blowjob from a giant pair of lips on a sexy body
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>>82658416
What? No codpiece? Come on guys
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>>82658446
did he ever have a canon fate, is he dead or retired.
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>>82659068
she can take on the hulk, why is she so hated.
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this useless dude

worst villain ever
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>>82659883
probably because she can take on Hulk and Hulkfags get upset when somebody is stronger than their husbando And some people think she's "silly."

They are dumb. I love Ruby Thursday and think she is CUTE.
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>>82658546
>Honestly she doesn't seem that bad as villains go.

She isn't, she's just weird.
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>>82658416
Arcade, fucking pathetic failure of a villain that requires everyone to overdose stupid pills and become jerks to each other for no reason, to be any threat, with a gimmick that was outdated in the 80sand now is just jarring, not a bit funny, not a bit threatening and a pedophile. Peter David couldn't make him work, his Arcade story was so bad it made me drop X-Factor. Alan Moore wrote him on few pages of Captain Britain and it was so tedious it almost killed my enjoyment in the book.
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>>82659854

I don't know, but damn, this was him before he shrunk his bones...
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>>82658885
>sparingly.
He was used sparingly. Also i wouldn't say he's a villain
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>>82658786

Now who might that be? It's not the Orb, or Mysterio, is it?
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Chondu the Mystic's real name is Harvey Schlemerman.
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>>82658416
can anyone Story-time some Ruby Thursday?
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>>82661337
I love all of these
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>>82661479

I have some Defenders comics of the Steve Gerber era in my folders, but I don't have time to storytime right now. I can do it later tonight.
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>>82661337
>Dr. Bong
heh
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>>82659390
Makes sense. Chondu was once mind-swapped with a baby female deer.
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>>82661755
don't wrong the Bong
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>>82658416
How can people hate the Headmen? They're hilarious.
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>>82658416
>>82658446
These are AMAZING!
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>>82658518
Is she a robot? If not, hpw the hell does she eat? I mean she seems to.be in good shape.
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>>82658416
>>82658446
>>82659307
>>82661337

These people aren't villains they need a doctor!
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>>82661929

She is a mad scientist that re-created her own head to have shapeshifting abilities. She can bypass as a normal person if she wants to.
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>>82661929
>Great bod
>How the hell does she eat?!

You now understand women talking about other women.
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>>82661439
Reminds me of the villain for the Mask cartoon
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>>82661337

So, someone pretty much gathered all the other villains that Gerber created in the 70's to form a new group? Cool.
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holy fuck all this thread did is sell me on these guys
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Its an extreme body modification but honestly nothing about her seems difficult to comprehend, people have done way more outrageous stuff with the use of comicbook super science.

Speaking of bad girls with weird bodies, wasn't there a minor villain who had a bunch of mouths on her body and they each talked separately from her so she could have conversations with them? Does this sound familiar to anyone else?
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>>82662323
Yeah she was a minor /co/ waifu who showed up in an X-Men halloween special issue. Her name was Gossip Girl.
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>>82662323
I can't find a good pic of her and image searching her is a nightmare, but her name is Gossip Girl.

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/gossip-girl/4005-78023/
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>>82662358
>gossip girl was a waifu

holy shit how could I have missed this

She's one of my top Marvel waifus after Ruby
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>>82662424
Yeah I first started browsing /co/ when this issue hit and people spammed her for a couple days. It didn't last long but people wanted porn of her.
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>>82662518
Well she is basically made for blowjob gangbangs
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>>82662543
Pretty much.
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>>82662724
Did... did you just draw that Anon?
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>>82662745
Its a template.
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>>82662766
I see, still its really showing how this has gone from a 'worst villain' to 'best girl' thread.
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>>82662543
I just want kisses from all her mouths

>>82662806
I know, right? Sometimes /co/ has good taste
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>>82662014
I think as time went on, her body went full-android.
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>>82662048

Doctor Pretorius. And speaking of that cartoon... it had no shortage of lousy villains.
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>>82658416
She makes me want to paint a fishbowl red and stick it on a real doll.
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>>82663788
It at least had Walter from the comics, literally the immovable object to the Mask's unstoppable force.
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>>82658786
Nice b8 m8.
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>>82664063
I think her head is squishy so you'd need like, a dodgeball or something
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>>82664554
It's really made of some kind of fictional polymer that's essentially a shapeshifting supercomputer. It's as squishy or hard as she wants it to be.
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>>82662323
>wasn't there a minor villain who had a bunch of mouths on her body and they each talked separately from her so she could have conversations with them? Does this sound familiar to anyone else?

Her name was Chat. I think she dated Spiderman.
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>>82661149
He still gets the hussie tell to much over show treatment
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They're both the villains.
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>>82664745
Chat was in the kid-themed Marvel Adventures books. Her power was that she could talk to animals. She and Spidey were friends, but that was as far as it went, I think.
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>>82660267
Hulk fags really are the worst.
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I don't think I've ever enjoyed any story that involves him.
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>>82661149
>>82664811
>>82664455
No guys I posted Scratch as a joke because they look alike; he's one of the best things from that shitpile
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>>82665341
The Jackal seems like a cancer on the marvel universe, all he introduces are incredibly terrible storylines.
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>>82665341
And he looks retarded, has a name/design that makes no sense and acts like a generic evil twat who sometimes has a crush on a girl 30 years younger than him.

Why do they keep using him?
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>>82658488

I would have guessed they were called "The Four Heads"
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>>82658830
in the second panel it looks like she is forming a giant hand that is flipping the bird
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While we're posting lesser known villainesses that are also /co/ waifus...
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>>82665473
because pedophiles are creeeeeepy
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>>82664725
She sounds really fucking cool.
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http://www.writeups.org/ruby-thursday-marvel-comics-headmen-defenders/

http://www.writeups.org/dibbuk-marvel-comics-ruby-thursday/
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>>82661337
>>82661439
How can people not love this shit? I mean this is unadulterated comics. Played entirely straight too none of this "do ho so random"
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>>82665033
Is this what Ruby actually looks like?
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>>82665641
Is she based on a Swiss Army Knife?
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>>82665797
No, she's just capable of shapeshifting her ruby head into a 'normal' face to aid in her schemes, and then suddenly having that face shoot out a bunch of fleshy tentacles to choke you to death.
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>>82665641
TOP TIER TASTE

do you always post Miss Army Knife in waifu threads or are there multiple people?
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>>82665063

No, they were definitely dating.
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>>82665954
I've never done it before now, can't have been me.
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>>82658416
Considering the direction this thread has gone, I have to vote The Absence

She's an incredible villain in three really good books, but nobody wants to touch her anymore because people think she looks silly.
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>>82658488
>gorilla with the head of a man
Not "man with a gorilla body"?
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>>82665998
Good. Miss Army Knife deserves as many fans as she can get.

Maybe she can be meme magic'd back.
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>>82658830
If she can shapeshift her head, can she basically make it adopt a normal (if red) appearance? Also, where the fuck is her brain, in the orb or did she like have it surgically placed in her torso make room for laser room in the orb
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>>82666136
Nanomachines son
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>>82658856
I know, right? Actual plebeians.
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>>82666136
She transferred all the data from her brain into the orb. She has no need for the actual organic part, just the data.

And she can indeed form a red-colored human head if she wanted to.
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>>82665884
Ah. From the writeup page it's suggested that she had a facial deformity, like a cleft palette, and that's why she's so obsessed with "Artificial beauty".
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>>82666461
Well, to my knowledge, Ruby's past from before replacing her head was never shown or even touched upon in the comics. This was back when a character could be introduced and have everything you need to know about them explained in one page instead of five issues.
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>>82666032
Having never read anything about her I can confirm that everything about this page looks hole-in-head retarded
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>>82666032
Can I stick my penis in her head hole?
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>>82666536
Well, you're wrong. Paper scissors, bag of dog food. Everything she does is a fakeout.

>>82666664
it would be extremely painful
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>>82664871
In Caps defense he never made a secret society that goes above the Government.
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>>82666058

Hopefully.
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>>82666032
>I mean, I'm no doctor or nothin'
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>>82658416
I want OP to come back to this thread and share what his thoughts were in originally creating it.
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>>82666966
:(
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>>82666136
The easy part was replacing the head
the harpart was repalcing the head!
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>>82667046
Maybe he meant "worst villains to have around when you dont want an erection?"
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>>82666792
That just makes Dick and Damian look shitty. It's pretty easy to tell when something is a prop and the smell would give the dog food away. The real issue is that she has a pretty narrow gimmick and her characterization doesn't really support long-term villainy.

No one would waifu her if she wasn't drawn with cartoonish realism. Which is a shame, her drawn in an actually realistic style would be creepy and unsettling as hell.
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>>82667530
She's a genre savvy James Bond villain. You can do plenty with that

>No one would waifu her if she wasn't drawn with cartoonish realism. Which is a shame, her drawn in an actually realistic style would be creepy and unsettling as hell.
You mean the hole?
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>>82667777
Seeing Rogue with a goofy ruby head fighting Ruby Thursday would have made for a fucking hilarious image though
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Imagine what OP is thinking right now

He probably just saw a picture he thought was funny. Little did he know that he'd awaken a secret cabal of Ruby Thursday superfans
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>>82658416
Both as an actually bad villain and as an underrated waifu

Her N52 introduction was utter shit but when they started doing things like making her lie about her own backstory to make herself a special snowflake she became really cool.

Plus she's smoking hot when she's not wearing the joker's amputated face
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>>82668061
He probably just saw her as #1 in a Buzzfeed list called 9 Lame Comic Book Villains That Prove Why The Avengers Movies Are Much Cooler
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>>82659234
Must be where it got all its "CLEANSE THE WORLD, BURN THE UNCLEAN" tendencies.

You never forget your first, after all.
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>>82659307
>>82659390
>evil superscientists pranking each other with body-swapping and other weird shit
jesus christ, it's the Venture Bros. before there were Venture Bros.
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>>82667632
Genre-savvy is an inherently self-limiting concept as it requires your story to adhere closely to genre conventions and deconstructions to work. It's best used sparingly in a serious piece as it tends to erode suspension of disbelief; it's the icing, not the cake itself.

And yes, I mean the hole. Especially if an artist went full photorealistic with it and accurately rendered a gunshot wound. Small, minuscule even, entry wound in her forehead with a massive, jagged hole in the back.
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>>82668154
Almost certainly. Maybe now he's seen the error in his ways.
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>>82668142
Weirdly enough her Villain's Month book can very easily be read as a criticism of modern political activism.
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>>82668256
You should really check out the books she's in. It's less of a genre savvy in that she plays with comic book tropes, and more that she reacts based on specific behavior patterns and expectations. She's all tied up with these ideas of identity and, well, Absence. There's just this very Hermetic vibe to her, especially near the end of her arc; I think she'd fit in pretty well in Batwoman or something.

Although maybe the best possible Absence story can only be told by not doing it at all.

>The hole
I'm be inclined to agree that it could be rendered as an actual gunshot wound, save for the small entry wound. The gaping hole is the best part since it makes for lots of interesting ways to frame shots.
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>>82668432
It can be, but considering that writer is also the one that gave us [unsolicited opinions on israel] it was probably meant to be be taken at face value
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>>82668142

>>82664577
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Any Ruby Thursday storytimes? Somebody in a Killer Frost thread the other day posted all her origins, so if anybody has Ruby's first appearance, you should post!
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>>82668142
I want to KISS Deula!
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>>82668642
Nah, keep the small entry would so you can change the framing based on her position. Front to back is used for big picture things while back to front narrows focus onto small details.

I think she'd work best with a very introspective writer. Can you imagine how great she'd be up against O'Neil Question?
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>>82668797
Joker's Daughter was Nocenti, not Bennett.
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>>82668936
Holy shit.
>>82668142 That is >>82668936 that?
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>>82669132

Yeah, turns out being horribly disfigured was just more of her delusions.
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>>82668964

>Absence vs The Question
Ooooh, now that I would love to see.
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>>82665641
Has she had any appearances outside of that Human Flame story?
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>>82669132
Yep. She's a cute

>>82669099
You're right, I was thinking of the other JD book
http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Batman:_Joker's_Daughter_Vol_1_1

>>82668835
You know, on the one hand I'm glad Deula is still alive. On the other hand I almost wish she was so that she was free of Lobdell. That book is unreadably bad and he's just dragging her through the mud.

I always liked Deula before N52 so her coming back as what she is and being shoved into everything is a huge Monkey's Paw for me. Sure she's gotten a bit of character development, but she's also an edgy psycho now and everyone is begging to see her die.

If he keeps this up nobody's ever going to use her in the future.

Plus every artist draws her Joker Mask differently and they're all bad. Somebody take that thing away from her and give her some damn greasepaint or something.
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>>82665759
>Ruby Thursday became a candidate to the Presidency of the USA – under the name Ruby Thursday, but with her head morphed into a normal-looking one.Ruby’s platform was apparently a feminist and hedonistic one and she promised “a new head for everyone”, though people assumed that she meant a head of state.
Holy shit they really are the the league of Dada.
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>>82660367
i love arcade honestly, but i always feel he should have been killed in his final outing by the guy who created him (forget his name) because nobody has made him work since.
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>>82669882
I feel like I would like Marvel a lot more if they put these characters at the forefront.
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>>82669648
>but she's also an edgy psycho
An edgy psycho? In Gotham? I wont stand for this!
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>>82670041
There's "edgy" as in killing people, and "edgy" as in >>82668835
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>>82669648
Nah, double down on her being an edgy psycho. Have the Joker Mask be something she makes because the original got destroyed or confiscated her first time up against a hero.

>>82669970
Just go intentional weirdo with him and make it less assassin and more psychological torture with added deathtraps. Make him something of a dilettante supervillain who does it because it makes him happy.
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>>62666666
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>>82658416
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?
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Maybe not a worst villain but definitely a worst costume design.
His Spectacular Spider-Man design, on the other hand, was pretty good.
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>>82670498
Arcade?
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>>82670947
fug
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>>82661337
>Beyond Corporation

holy fuck muh nextwave

what comic is this from?
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>>82666536
That's because you've never read anything with her. I thought the same thing.
Go read her story, she's a god-tier villain.
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>>82665226
>>82660267

Hulk is my favorite character and holy fucking hell yes the fanbase is cancer.
The normie tier idea that Hulk can get strong enough to beat anyone because MUH ANGER is surprisingly prevalent even with people who have read the comics. It's fucking infuriating.
And Hulk regularly gets matched by other big names like Thor,, Hercules, etc, it's nothing new.
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>>82671491
BUT HULK STRONGEST ONE THERE IS!!1
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This sound weird but he is the most appreciated of unappreciated villains. I mean shit the guy is smart as fug and he has the best track record of beating spider man head on.

That being said he has gotten his moments in comics and is the main character in some really good fanfiction of him.

http://forgotten.faithweb.com/MaxLandis/legit00.htm

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5124106/1/Polarity
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Children antagonists are always shitty as it is, but having 20 episodes of wasteland wandering, space travel, and looking at dozens of planets with nothing on them to find out the kid is a genocidal asshole is even worse.

Especially when they do a follow up with the time machine and "The Mutant"

Eventually, I just skipped forward until I found the part where they found him.
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>>82671197

Amazing Spider-Man Annual, Vol. 3.

I think.
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>>82669648
>>82669217
>>82668142

I like the concept and character design, but I think that the "Wear someone's face" trope has been played to death at this point. You need to make it fresh not just a rehashed:
>Leatherface
>Pavi Largo
>Handsome Jack

Because in truth, they're very closely the same character, just with different amounts of power.
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>>82661929
Well it's shown that she can shapeshift into a giant mouth, so that's probably how.
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>>82662002
They have a doctor!
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>>82674581
52 redeemed him.
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>>82674607
I wonder if he gives out weed cards or if everyone goes to him expecting him to a pot doc.
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>>82661479
>>82661594

I'm about to start it >>82675669
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>>82674607
Is he British?
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>No Armless Tiger Man
Seriously?
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>>82676281
This isn't best villain thread
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>>82658643
Oh great, now I'm picturing her dating. She meets a lowly jeweler, who appreciates that beautiful gem she calls a head. After a few dates they get down and dirty. He whips out a suitcase. In it is the latest state of the art gem polisher/buffer. You guys can take it from there.
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>>82658830
Anyone else got a parasite vibe from this?
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Pure garbage
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Remember kids, don't do drugs or you'll get superpowers.
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>>82677892
Reminds me of Las Plagas
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>>82678772

he's got a fancomic

http://www.snowflamecomic.com/
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>>82678772
The problem wasn't that his powers where from drugs, the problem was that the character sucked.
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>>82678650
How so?
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>>82667025
The Rules Anon!
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>>82672903
Well, to be fair, Handsome Jack is wearing a replica of his own face, pre-dunking. Not really the same thing.
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>>82679548
>Doomsday
>bad
>not the best

He's the Hulk if the Hulk were actually interesting.
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>>82658653
That's a funny way of spelling Illyana
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>>82658653
Based Tumblr
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>>82679615
>Doomsday
>interesting
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>>82672903

The face wearing is dumb as hell though. Especialy since Batman already has Dollmaker to fill that niche.
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>>82671491
You're one of the good ones, anon.
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>>82658416
This is the kind of thing you could just go ahead and try, in the days before everyone picked every God damn thing apart on the internet
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>>82658653
>not gwepool
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I can't find a pic but there was #1 Fan, a Marvel character with fans for hands.

Plus a bunch of the cannon fodder Morlocks from Mutant Massacre
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>>82682694
uh

what are you talking about?

Are you saying that before the internet people could try to cut their own heads off?
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>>82679100
He's literally never posed a threat to Hulk himself since the issue he was conceived.
His powers are exactly like Hulk's except no regeneration, can't get stronger, and doesn't have unlimited stamina.
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>>82658416
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>>82679615
Doomsday has literally no character whatsoever. He's Hulk if he wasn't like Hulk at all; doesn't get stronger with anger, loves killing, isn't sympathetic, doesn't have a simiilar design, doesn't transform. Only similarity is breaking stuff.
Writers butcher Hulk in almost every crossover but at least his solo portrays his character well.
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>>82681647
Thanks I try
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>>82683502
>not best
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>>82672223
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>>82658416
>>82658518
>>82658643

>tfw ruby thursday tells you that she's into pegging while seductively running her middle finger across the eastern hemisphere of her would-be face
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>>82683502
How dare you...
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>>82683128

Got you covered.

Yeah, some of the X-Factor joke villains were intended to be that laughable.
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>>82658416
ruby a CUTE
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>>82672223
and don't you ever forget it
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>>82674615
he's only been in Harley, right?
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>>82688366
He means the series "52", not the New 52.
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>>82674581
>>82674615
Agreed. We more Chang Tzu is awesome. DC's MODOK.

People bitch about the Great 10 but fuck I love all of em
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>>82688486
You will call him Egg Fu or you'll deal with my fists.
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>>82676281
See >>82671071
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>>82679289
That is a /v/ rule though
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>>82664806
how?
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>>82666827
Mind you, the marvel universe governments aren't much better at times. SHIELD too are starting to act like they are the law.
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>>82688486
Mother of Champions is still fucked up and retarded tho, taking the fear of the "Red Chinese hordes" due to their large population and turning it into a nationally-mandated metahuman who gets knocked up really quickly and gives birth to endless expendable super soldiers.
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>>82689564
I mean, those are all real things the Chinese government is known for.

The Great 10 are portrayed as good guys, not villains, so any "fear" elements are just being projected on them. The only thing "bad" attached to them is the fact that they're under the thumb of government bureaucracy, but that's not their fault. They're all heroes that represent their country, like the Rocket Reds.
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>>82664806
>Fantomas
>the Phantom
>Phantom Limb Syndrome

its like a triple entendre, hows is it not the best?
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>>82666136
pick your writer
some wrote it as she hated the vanity her head brought, that she acted different because of he beautifully face.
Some wrote it that she can't keep it up for a long period of time, it's like tensing a muscle so while she can do it it would take a lot of focus in long tern situations.
Others wrote it that she is just fucking nuts and like's being a ball.
Also it's worth noting she has had at least 6 bodies at this point and only one has been confined a clone of the original body.
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>>82666369
In that Defenders story she used the same technology to make a new brain for Chondu, also.
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>>82658496

>rocket rocks

I didn't notice that before but that's a bunch of bullshit right there.
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>>82694690
Look at his grin, he's LOVING this shit
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I love you Ruby
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Bumpedy-bump.
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>post shitty villains
>people post nothing but cool villains
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>>82678650
It makes no sense as to why he can't regenerate. It's like they purposefully made him a joke. He'd work better if he was in someone else's rogue gallery.
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You know, if there was ever a time for Ruby Thursday to make a comeback, it's now. Everybody's got their phones and tablets and whatnot, which gives her some prime material to work with since her entire head is such a device and then some.
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>>82698520
He was made to be "Hulk, but stronger, and evil" but then they weakened him via gamma machines.
Should have kept him as being stronger than Hulk.
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>>82694690
Fuck, why did you even mention that. You actually ruined it for me.
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>>82672223
Isn't it consider a good thing? If he becomes more famous, he would have someone like the Punisher coming knocking on his doorstep.
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>>82702008
Does Shocker even do anything that would be worthy of Frank's attention? He's a petty crook at best.
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