Does anyone give a shit about Black Panther? I'd very interested to hear what black /co/mmrades think about him especially.
>>82602854
No fucks on this end, chief.
However as an amateur creator I can understand and respect Kirby's choice to pop him out upon reflection of his writing. Sometimes it's not about being PC or there being a demand of anything and it's more just a question of why you can't write something, a sense of lacking capacity to explore ideas outside the norm.
>>82602854
Favorite character in Civil War
>>82602854
I like science fiction
Wakanda is science fiction
>>82602854
In Civil War? I fanboyed.
Intensely. I want to say I lost a few man cards from the whole thing (not that I had very many to begin with)
>>82602933
Get out of here with your faggot normie "geek culture" bullshit
His stories are only good when they're set in Wakanda
>>82602854
Hell yeah, he's awesome. What kind of faggoty question is that?
He's archenemy is this weird "hard-sound" jester guy from the original Secret Wars, right? It will be interesting to see him on screen, mo-capped by Andy Serkins at least.
He's had one awesome run in Chris Priest. One shitty run in Hudlin. I haven't read the pre 1980's stuff.
>>82603072
Yes. Although he's not really a jester, that characterization was unique to Secret Wars. He went mad for reasons I cannot remember.
Usual Klaw doesn't fuck around.
>>82603088
Get on it senpai, Panther's Rage is amazing.
>>82602945
what
>>82603149
>Savage Land vibranium
What bullshit is this, cheap foreign knock-off
He's a king. How cool is that? Can't wait for his banter withNamor
Didn't he die in the most retarded way recently?
>>82603479
You're thinking Namor.
I didn't care at all. Thought he was boring as fuck, generic hero in a crappy costume, simply there to be the token black guy.
But then in Cap3 I actually really liked the actor and thought BP was great in the film. So while I don't care too much, I probably will watch his film.
>>82603385
Something from the last decade.
Vibranium fell in more places when it entered the atmosphere but the largest, mountains sized amount landed in Wakanda
>>82603385
Klaws of the Panther is shit btw. Don't read it
When I went to FCBD, a little kid was asking his dad for Black Panther comics.
>>82603149
>dat Shannah underboob
>>82603951
Typically Black Panther is used when writers want to recognize that the world is bigger than America, but doesn't want to use a Brit or an Asian.
>>82602945
Jesus fuck this secret club bullshit is getting out of hands.
>>82602854
He's cool
>>82602854
He's pretty badass, but I think he's more interesting as an "antagonist" than as a protagonist. I mean, he's strong, his suit makes him practically invulnerable, he's a king now, he's got his shit together, he went above revenge. He's just kinda complete. Where do you take him from there? What do you do with him? I can't imagine.
I like Black Panther for the same reasons I like Lee Falk's The Phantom, it takes the old pulp style of writing and applies it to a society that's in harmony with the earth and technology, but also doesn't forget it's more primitive, tribal roots
>>82602854
Currently he's boring in the comics and the MCU. Modern Panther in the comics should be more like Jungle Action but with more Pulp far more Pulp.
Make him The King Of The Dead again.
Bring back the interracial bromance with Namor.
Don't give Panther a singular romance he is a fucking king let the Dora Milaje be his warrior wives.
>>82602854
As an African American comic book reader, I personally have never read any Black Panther stories but I do know of the character. Nor am I some movie goer who gets hyped when an African American superhero gets a lot of scene time. Sure, I enjoyed Civil War to the fullest, but I was more awake for Ant-Man's role than anyone else.
>>82602854
First thing I ever read with BP was Christopher Priests Run. He was pretty much Marvel's Batman with Politics and Magic. It was unbelievably good.
>>82602933
Holy shit you sound like the biggest fucking faggot on Earth, fucking kill yourself.
>>82602854
I definitely don't care about him, he's just generic, and then in Civil War he's overly powerful for no real reason.
>>82602854
Black guy.
I like Black panther. I really liked him as the King of the Dead. Im still wondering why he didnt get his own movie prior to Civil War
WHAT JIVE ASS TURKEY DOESNT LIKE MAIN MAN BLACK PANTHER!?
>>82602854
I don't want to hear what black /co/mrades think and more importantly I don't want to even know of black /co/mrades' existence.
>>82608054
>and then in Civil War he's overly powerful
how?
>>82602854
I'm white as fuck, T'Challa has been a favorite of mine ever since Priest's run. Happy to see him getting so much love now from all corners, and any worries I might have had about his solo movie were killed after seeing him in Civil War.
>>82602854
I'm a white /co/mrade but I thought he was rad as hell.
>>82609132
OH NO YOU DIDN'T
GET OFF MY TURF, BITCH PANTHER
>>82609163
/pol/------>
>>82602854
I never really read any of his comics but he was my favorite character in Civil War.
>>82602854
He's a nigger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZU7Y1Hdww0
>>82606781
>A lion, a panther, and a cat enter a bar...
>>82602854
Surprise breakout of the movie. Can't fucking wait for his solo film.
>>82609331
naw hes just baiting. He'll probably respond to low hanging replies and never point what's wrong with this anon:>>82607060 for example
>>82609309
No joke, I would read the fuck out of a Luke Cage/T-Challa team up book
>>82609309
Shut it Cage, dont you have a personal ad to write with your fisting buddy?
>>82609401
We're....just friends....it ain't like that, man...
Black Anon. I'm not gonna lie, seeing a black character be based does kinda feel different.
>Fighting Bucky without his suit in the UN building
>The suit design itself
>Dem claws
>That TATSUMAKI SENPUKAYKU he hit on Cap
>That agility
>Not playing along with the quips, all business
I'm very much looking forward to his movie.
>>82609096
Probably testing the waters.
>>82604368
saying stupid shit like "lost my man cards" isnt funny either
>>82603043
HOL UP HOL UP
so can the statue at the end of the film activate and fire death lazers?
adds new meaning to the "they can try" scene
>>82602854
I think he's pretty cool, but I also haven't read a ton of his comics.
My uncle and cousin are black and they're both immense fans of him and were really happy with his portrayal in the movie.
I'm disappointed no one has storytimed Panthers Rage yet
>>82602854
I think that he is an example of an exceptionally well done black character. He is extremely powerful and reserved as a king should be He is shown to be intelligent while also being able to be above alot of the marvel universes squabbles unless it affects his people.
I feel he is amongst the few truly interesting black characters in mainstream comics which is nice when you are a black kid and get to see well done representation.
Outside of black panther I think Icon(wheres muh milestone u) ,miles, and Luke cage.
Shit tier IMO are falcon and cyborg.
While night hawk gets an honorable mention.
>>82602854
I'm not black but there was nothing black or African about him except his skin color
Which is good, he was a guy who happened to be black instead of a black guy
>>82610839
I'm glad that they're giving the actual black comic characters the spotlight instead of just racebending characters.
>>82610882
His accent was pretty African
>>82602854
Cool guy desu senpai
I didn't give the slightest shit about him before, but CW made him look awesome and now I'm bummed we'll have to wait six years for his movie.
Well played, Marvel.
>>82611085
Aye thank you since I got back into comics I've really been looking at all the black heroes and see which I like. Are there others I should know about?
>>82613449
I kinda feel the same way. Just saw the movie today. I REALLY liked this version of T'Chaka and T'Challa. Yes, they have their cool accent, heavy traditions, etc, but this royal family is willing to get involved in territories that have a need. There isn't an amazing amount of isolationist bullshit going on. This alone took away a big stumbling block for me giving a shit about BP.
It's obvious that this version's eaten the heart-shaped herb (goes toe to toe with super soldier serum targets Cap & Bucky), has a decent suit, etc. I wanna see his film now, but it makes me wonder how many films the Russos are going to direct, and if this will be one of them.
>>82613742
Black Panther already has a director lined up
>>82610839
are you refereing to mcu comedian falcon or the comics?
because i can agree that mcu falcon feels like nothing more then a black best friend for cap
the same with way i feel with mcu Tony and mcu Thor.
>>82602854
I know very little about Panther. Is Klaw really his key nemesis? They always play Klaw kinda goofy
And his adopted brother white wolf? Is he any good as a character? Movie potential?
>>82616082
No, Erik Killmonger is supposed to be his true archnemesis, a Wakandan exile that returns and becomes his primary rival for the throne. Klaw was always just an outside facilitator for Black Panthers true enemies.
>>82616154
See I don't know why The Mandarin and Iron Monger are acceptable to me but "Killmonger" is just too goofy
>>82616154
I can't get enough of Black Panther and Killmonger framed in dramatic mountain top battles
>>82616244
Killmonger is a flamboyant, vainglorious man anon. He chose the name Erik Killmonger after his exile. His Wakandan name is N'Jadaka. He purposely chose an over the top name.
Wakanda is full of over the the top figures like this, like Baron Macabre
>>82602854
This needs to be in forfront for some reason.
Obviously I hate SJW horse shit and the tumb/co/ that is the current cluster fuck.
That being said I fucking love the Black Panther.
When you first read him in the books he kinda comes off as a mary stu
>Fruit makes him beyond Super Solider
>Huge Scientific mind among wakandins huge minds.
>Great king/Wise controlled ruler
And then you read more about him and you realize that he is just a wise bad ass. Like an African Cap/Spiderman.
The movies had me in the same way, I was scared they were going to go
>MUH BLACK KING CANNOT BE BEAT
>MUH LADY WINDOW
And thenthe explosion happenedand they just used him so well after that. He was badass when he fought. Stealthy when he needed to be. Wise and just when punishment came and was able to see his own flaws.
The Black Panther is the Hero black youths NEED. He is a rad dude, up there with the greats.Also the black chick warrior, while spot in like in the books, was just as insufferable to watch.
Am black and I like BP when he's written by literally anyone who isn't a BET employee.
Priest and Don McGregor's runs are the GOATS runs imo.
>>82616574
Black Panther is good because his world and his character are set in a fully realized mythos that lends itself to stories built on classic archetypes and themes deeper than social commentary or appealing to a certain demographic.
If you like sword and sorcery pulp adventures set in an archeofuturist landscape with occasional geopolitical machinations and conflicts, you'll like Black Panther. I'm drawn to Black Panther as a character because, like T'Challa, I see myself as a traditional man who shoulders the burden of preserving my ways in a non traditional world while trying to find my place in it. The Warrior King archetype makes for some of my favorite Marvel heroes, Black Panther, Namor, Dr. Doom and Black Bolt just to name a few.
Also, the Dora Milaje don't aim to be sufferable.
>>82603165
People need to stop sleeping on McGregor's BP run. I know Priest is the go-to run and that McGregor's is hard to find now, but fuck me it's a good book.
>>82616829
>Also, the Dora Milaje don't aim to be sufferable
I know, and truthfully they have every right to be SUPER aggressive.
It just gets on my nerves in the same way that wakanda feels like it has a giant ratio of super intelligent normal people than damn near anywhere else.
I get the in book reasons, and I'm cool with it, its just so jarring when the only place close is latvaria when its not a rural old gothic farm country.
>>82616879
McGregor's Black Panther is a prime example of what I think makes for the best superhero stories. You start with a poorly conceived, under selling concept that was hastily put out, like the first volume of Jungle Action with it's shitty Tarzan knock off, then because it's so undervalued, it's given to a writer who is allowed complete creative freedom to built the world and the story they want within the limitations of the book, in this case needing to be a story taking place in Africa with a jungle setting. From there, we get to see writers imagination run wild and create cozy, vividly detailed settings within the wider world it's set in filled with it's own unique characters and personality.
Daredevil and Hell's Kitchen is another prime example of this.
Anyone have a link to where you can actually watch the mid & post credits scenes? People I was with didn't want to wait and I figured it'd be fine cause I could Youtube it. Guess I was wrong, cause I can't find shit.
>>82604016
I saw a lot of stuff like that at my event. Lots of kids asking for characters from cartoons or the movies, I think it's really cool to see kids getting into comics.
>>82617041
Oh yes!
I've always wondered why we really don't see this kind of thing happening now a days. The closest thing I can think of is Silk maybe? Her solo book is good since the writers could really flesh out her character without Slott's influence on the character. I'm sure someone else here can think of another one though.
>>82616932
Wakanda is ruled under a very strict class based social hierarchy. If you are born in Wakanda, you will be initiated into the role you are most properly suited for in your society as discerned by your leaders, and you will be raised to understand this as your duty to your culture and your people. They have such a strong people because of this clarity of vision and adherence to tradition.
I would never make this point personally, but the criticism that should be levied against them in universe is that their societal structure is in truth the antithesis to what people would understand as freedom and democracy.
>>82617235
Most of this happened in a time when Marvel and DC were putting out a lot of hastily made shelf filler books to compete with other comics, which were able to set the stage for better things to come later. We don't get that now.
>>82602854
I think most everyone liked him. I wasn't as big of a fan of the costume as I hoped I would be but hopefully they update it.
>>82610558
Pretty sure it wasn't supposed to be
He was the jewel of Civil War I'll give him much.
>>82602854
My fellow Black nerds on facebook LOVE him. He's ccool but the hype is OD
>>82616082
>>82616154
I fucking adore Keelmongah but come on senpai, it's Klaw.
Batman's archnemesis is Joker, not Bane.
>>82619294
Look at that portrait anon. Don McGregor says himself that Killmonger is his supreme foe that is thr hand behind Black Panthers woes in Wakanda
>>82617054
Mid-CreditsCap and Bucky are taking refuge in Wakanda, Bucky makes the choice to go back on ice until they can get the triggers out of his head
Post-CreditsSpidey is at home fiddling with his new shooters, turns out their's a spidey signal in it as well as a mini-computer
>>82619380
A writer hyped his OC, gee imagine that.
Ask anybody a little less prone to bias and you'll be told it's Klaw. Presuming McGregor even believes it himself and wasn't just spouting typical Marvel marketing hyperbole, just needs a "most" and an "of all". Killmonger fucked with Wakanda for a few months, big whoop. So did Achebe, and Doom, and Kruel, etc.. Klaw killed his fucking dad. The depth of hatred just doesn't compare.
And I reiterate, I prefer Killmonger. He's cooler. Really hope he makes it into the movies. I also prefer Venom to Green Goblin, doesn't magically make him the guy who killed Gwen Stacy.
Black guy here.
I kinda want to check out the new comic, but I won't mess with MCU shit until Marvel moves on from their "reeee X-Men" bullshit.
>>82619782
He created the character man
>>82610839
How is Static?
>>82613742
Creed's director is doing the Black Panther solo, which is regarded as good news by many. (I haven't seen Creed, so I don't know)
>>82616810
>anyone who isn't a BET employee
Aaron McGruder on a Black Panther book when
>>82622373
There's a new Black Panther book?
>>82610839
Miles morales is pretty much black faced Peter Parker.
>>82617274
>If you are born in Wakanda, you will be initiated into the role you are most properly suited for in your society as discerned by your leaders, and you will be raised to understand this as your duty to your culture and your people
There was something similar done in the New Krypton crossover in the Super books. Superman was chosen for the military guild (or whatever it was called) because he had mastered using his powers in combat and Supergirl went to the science guild
>>82602854
In my experience most Black Americans comic readers that I've met love him and now that civil war came out the casuals love him too.
Curiously enough the only two South African black people that I know that read comics don't really care for him and see him as an African-American wish power fantasy character.
Is his sister still also Black Panther?
What's some good Black Panther series to read /co/?
>>82629946
>good
>Marvel
Black guy here, don't really give a shit about him. But I don't really give a shit about marvel in general.
>>82625122
Yes, that's exactly what I said.
He didn't create Black Panther. He's just one of 50 years worth of writers to use him. If Slott called Regent Spider-Man's true archnemesis tomorrow everyone would laugh at him.
Whenever Killmonger & Panther meet, they banter and engage in honorable combat. Sure each holds a grudge against the other, but there's also respect. Killmonger wants to rule Wakanda, at the end of the day Panther's an obstacle to a greater goal.
Whenever Klaw & Panther meet, they lunge at each other's throats Peter & The Chicken style. Klaw's entire characterization is wanting to kill Panther and Panther wanting to kill Klaw is one of his few guilty pleasures he allows himself. Not to mention Klaw's also appeared far more often than Killmonger, and that even when he appears in non-Panther comics his motivations still somehow loop back around to killing Panther.
never cared much for him before his movie appearance, his silence is really prominent
thought he'd spend less time furiously running at Bucky though based on what little I know about him
on the other hand I never thought the WE WUZ KINGZ meme was funny and I hate him for how much more of that I'll be seeing
>>82629946
His 90s ongoing and Jungle Action.
>>82630841
>thought he'd spend less time furiously running at Bucky though based on what little I know about him
In T'Challa's first comic appearance he's been king for many years, and dad-less since childhood. He's yet to go through the development his position forces upon him that makes him the character you know about, letting go of his anger & sparing Zemo was the first step.
>>82617274
Which comic? I don't remember this.
Sound more like Attilan.
>>82630878
yeah I figured, I just hoped that his patience would be his most prominent mode of thought rather than just his final one, so it left the biggest impresion on the audience
other than that I didn't really think anything of him, except that they reused some of his combat grunts and it bothered me
I want to run the famous Priest run everyone talks aboug, but I just can't take that weird cape seriously.
I love the plain, all black suit, but without the weird half cape.
>>82603951
>Simply there to be the token black guy
>Who are Rhodie and Sam
>>82602854
He's just a jungle Namor right? He'd be more fun if he went evil.
>>82628216
Yeah, the arts great but the writing needs to pick up
>>82602854
Is Black
>called Black Panther
Top kek
He was cool though
>>82632368
Not even.
As personalities they're polar opposites.
I like him, I just need to read the particular comics /CO/ suggested since they seem to be the best one. I also liked him in the movie, but that's not really because I'm black and so is he.
>>82602854
Black anon here. T'Challa is my favoriteMarvelcharacter. As a kid it was refreshing to know that there were characters that looked like me. Well, the actually looked like brown colored caucasians with afros but still... Refreshing.
II think I have all of his appearances where he wasn't just a background character collected in digital format.I look forward to getting some cool hardcovers to display
