Is Dave Strider the most complicated character in Homestuck?
Last thread had a discussion how deep his arc was.
>abused by his brother
>wears the broken disc shirt to show how he rejects masculinity and other ideals
>finally completes his character arc when he meets with Dirk and ends up killing him to save everyone
>>82436005
Dave doesn't deserve to be happy and should have perma-died
I'll be glad when you fuckers die out.
>>82436005
yeah, needlessly so
>>82436029
this
the op would have been the best outcome
ITT: things that are better than Act 7
>>82436069
literally anything
>>82436069
act 6
>>82436069
http://mspfanventures.com/?s=8617&p=1
>>82436069
at least WV was in it
Dave should have perma-died because his...time had come, and it would have carried some weight. I liked it when he died guarding Jade in Game Over, that would have been fine. John and LE should have had a rematch because of the first beatdown. Judgment Day should have been used somewhere.
The list just goes on. I wish the game had been announced after the comic. Hussie would still have had some interest in finishing the comic right, story would probably still have an odd ending but at least there would have been more resolution beforehand for each character, no wacky tobaccy sprite shit thrown in for too many pages because because. Then the people would more likely agree that it was a fine ending that can always be discussed, but with more concrete answers too. Then hype would have been through the roof even higher for the game when it got announced, and being as it'd have been announced later, TOG would already be in the middle of their own thing, and couldn't swindle him over, and he could have found someone else or made the thing himself with his own studio from the get-go.
I feel like we're all living in the doomed timeline, and some other lucky ducks out there got the good end in some other universe.
>>82436069
The massive shit I just took
anyone want to request a doodle?
>>82436108
aradias playing with her own corpse
>>82436094
You know what. I'd actually take this over fucking act 7.
>>82436033
THE GAMES WILL NEVER STOP
>>82436108
Snowman turning into a goat
>>82436029
But then Jade would be sad, and she deserves to be happy
>>82436108
do >>82436115 dying horribly
>>82436005
daily reminder that lord english wins
KARKAT IS NOT A JOKE CHARACTER!
>>82436108
John getting bullied for being straight
I WAS RAPED
>>82436108
john getting molested and laughed at for being straight by all the women
>>82436108
John getting all the Lalondes pregnant
>>82436160
Why would a gang of lesbians molest an innocent straight boy?
>>82436115
One comic wasn't enough to contain her.
>>82436108
john bullying caliborn for being autistic
>>82436179
subversion of expectations, true to homestucks nature
>>82436123
not really
>>82436132
>Predominates
>Through hard work, gains immortality
>Gets his own mob
>Gets to be a pimp
>Gets to time travel at will
>Gets to fuck up as many universes as he wants
>Gets to bust ghosts
>Reality bends to his will
>His last achievement was making the anime he always wanted
>>82436179
it's ironic molestation
or
>>82436188
>>82436108
requesting karkuck dying alone and horribly
>>82436108
lord english ripping vriska's legs off her body and throwing her into the black hole
>dave dies a hero in Game Over
>undone by retcon
>(dave) nowhere to be seen in the dream bubbles
>>82436184
this already happened in the comic
>>82436207
CALLIOPE*
I MEANT THE GIRL ONE
>>82436191
>His last achievement
but actually not, because he wins, and kills everybody
>>82436108
>>82436184
>>82436207
>>82436213
do this one
do john bullying calliope like a big mean bully
>>82436190
Yes really, she suffered so much. She deserves strider love
>>82436205
The GO!Characters don't fucking matter. After all John just replaced them with near identical copies which is A-OK because ultimate self or some bullshit
![8xljD[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/zeaUgIF.gif "8xljD[1].gif")
rate my fanventure
>>82436245
Not Joey/10
>>82436224
and then calliope's girlfriend roxy tries to step in to protect her
but john pushes her over and claims her for herself
wait no ill write that myself
doesn't the scratch destroy/reset the universe it happened in
so how did john make himself/the babies if the scratch unhappened their session, what small simple fact am i missing
>>82436245
Looks about the same as the other million fan adventures that just rip everything off of Homestuck.
>>82436303
John still made the babies, they just went to different places instead when they entered the defense portals. It does cause a paradox since technically it never happened but you have to think of it as a very specific one time retcon.
>>82436341
so homestuck just got BUSTED?
>>82436303
>doesn't the scratch destroy/reset the universe it happened in
It actually just resets the session and creates a new universal timeline. Otherwise that penpal stuff with Jade and Jake wouldn't make sense either.
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006606
>I want Vriska to permadie
Understandable, because she clogs the spotlight with her bullshit.
>I want Karkat to permadie
Now, what the fuck is wrong with you guys?
>>82436347
Homestuck got busted the moment Dave was able to put the lid on his apple juice with the lid also staying on the floor.
>>82436364
that was the green sun though
>>82436353
right, but if the session reset, which is where the paradox babies were made, wouldn't that mean they were never actually sent and so the post-scratch session would need to do ectobiology to make themselves?
i'm being a layman over here don't mind me
>>82436380
No it doesn't get retroactively erased in any sense, it's just wiped.
>>82436236
Except the post-retcon Dave is gay while pre-retcon Dave had the hots for Jane.
>>82436360
Brcause both of them never grew up
She is still the self-absorbed anti-hero sue
He is still the self-loathing jerk with a heart of gold who does fucking nothing and clogs the spotlight with romance bullshit
Daily reminder that if you don't want Vriska to humiliate youand sexually dominate youyou are probably gay.
>>82436429
No, you're gay. A real man would punch in her the snout to establish dominance before proceeding to engage in weird inter-species procreation activities.
>>82436420
He's not gay he's Bi.
He's still with Jade and Karkat at the end.
>>82436445
id let her punch my snout if u know what i mean
>>82436452
You mean just Jade. Dave is monogamous
>>82436470
And Jade most likely is and definitely isn't into Karkat in any capacity
Why is bisexuality the big tumblr sexuality if gay people are more oppressed? Is it because tumblr is straight and they can pretend to be bi while still getting laid?
>>82436243
I just realized Dave is probably the person who wanted to fuck the most members of the cast.
Hell he's the only character that wanted to bang everyone in that pic.
>>82436486
yes
>>82436479
And karkat doesn't like to share. And is mortal
>>82436488
Eri wanted to fuck the most people
>>82436479
I'm sure she'd be willing to throw him a bone, since he's got like 80 years left at best compared to their FOREVER.
>>82436488
what about terezi
>>82436499
Fuck that, he should keep to his own fucked up species
>>82436496
I think he just wanted to fuck, and didn't really care about who it was.
>>82436470
He might not be. I mean wasn't his major objection that Terezi was hiding it from him, and also possibly that he'd just find her strewn about the halls like she just got gangbanged?
>>82436429
i'd rather have Rose do that
>>82436518
Eri just wanted someone to like him, but nobody would even be his friend.
>>82436510
Dave wanted to fuck
Jade
Rose
Jane
Roxy
Terezi
Karkat
Terezi wanted to fuck
Karkat
Dave
John
Vriska
Gamzee - well I mean kinda. They did, but she hated it and not the way I assume most kismesis hate it.
Dave has her beat by 1.
>>82436518
He right said couldn't handle it, even though he acknowledged the quadrant thing was legitimate
If he has trouble handling quadrants he sure as hell isnt going to handle a human relationship
>>82436548
I miss when Hussie had that whole thing where trolls werr alien and not compatible with humans.
>>82436429
i have a far superior girl for that
>>82436565
But don't you see, we can all work together and make the world a better place if we hold hands and sing with the bug people
>>82436548
He couldn't handle his girl banging someone else, but could he handle banging someone else while his girl was out growing pumpkins?
>>82436547
Also for the sake of it.
Rose wanted to bang
>John
>Kanaya
>Dave ???
Jade
>Dave
John
>Terezi
>Vriska
>Rose
>Roxy
>>82436547
Dave almost might have wanted to fuck John at a few points, it's debatable.
>>82436610
Yes, because he'd be along next to her helping her grow those pumpkins. Pretty sure after 10 years alone Jade isn't going to let anyone leave her
>>82436429
Disgusting. Vriska is only good if you're the one doing those things to her.
>>82436005
>wears the broken disc shirt to show how he rejects masculinity and other ideals
Yeah, there's no more iconic symbol of masculinity and maleness than discs. This is pretty unambiguous.
>>82436005
What ended up being the reolution for Dirk dealing with how he for whatever reason has a bunch of splintered sorta-clones of himself? I remember a conversation with the AI that became ARquius but I don't remember the final resolution.
Nor Jake's whatever the hell Jake's arc was, more a bit player in Dirk's problems
>>82436610
>Growing pumpkins
Is this is a metaphor for something?
>>82436243
Much as I love this (and in fact commissioned Angel to do some smut for me upon seeing it), it keeps bugging me how the black/white divide is arranged here. It just feels like the Derse girls ought to be in black and the Prospit girls in white.
>>82436618
He did say he loved him at one point
>>82436662
No I just meant like maybe he would be fucking Karkat while Jade was out shopping, not secretly mind you I don't think Dave could handle keeping a secret from his lover.
>>82436662
Dave cheating on a hot mom is OOC
>>82436618
if he hadn't thought about fucking John he wouldn't have been so afraid to tell him he was into guys
>>82436429
>Vriska
>when Aradia and Roxy exist
Who the fuck do you think I am?
Karkuck?
>>82436645
It's true. A circle with a hole inside it? It's obviously a metaphor for butts. And you know why that's important for guys? Because they want to kick each other's butts. And they kick each other's butts to repress their latent homosexuality. The disc is a symbol of that, the only way to express their manlust for each other without revealing it. But Dave refuses that symbol; because rather than being an outlet for all the homolove every man has, it's only a tool of REPRESSION. He breaks that symbol. Destroys it. Throws it away. Because he doesn't need that symbol to show how much he wants guybutt.
>>82436718
>>82436645
I love you guys.
>>82436718
okay but what if it's really________________just a fucking shirt symbol?________________
>>82436680
He sees him in his dreams.
>>82436718
But that symbol was broken unintentionally, and it was his brother that broke it not him. What you're saying is bro made him question his heterosexuality
>>82436756
Wow, there's literally never a point in my life where I'm giving Hussie enough credit. Bravo.
>>82436005
I liked where Dave was headed
he had that "drop it like its hot when the pimp is in the crib" destiny and was rejecting it pretty hard together with the concept of fated heroism. Maybe, I hoped, he would find a "third way".
He didn't. He just slugged through a game he didn't enjoy and found shitty love
>>82436756
>bro forcibly dumped a ton of smuppet dongs and asses on dave
>dave sliced and diced and broke the fuck out of that shit
>still ended up gay
>>82436756
And once he talks to Dirk, suddenly all the gay stuff is dropped and it's back to Davejade teases...
>>82436794
So the disc represents the cyclical nature of Dave's sexuality? Incredible, deepest lore.
>>82436680
>>82436739
>Dave's shit about gayness and talk with Dirk wasn't about trying to say he was dating Karkat but really trying to come out about his raging homolust towards John
DAVEJOHN CONFIRMED
>>82436780
cant slay the gay per se, bro
>>82436779
how did wv take out le with only a cany
>>82436672
Because Jade had been wearing black for way too long and it fits Rose. So Roxy and Jane got white.
>>82436672
same thought
also
>share smut
>Karkat will never find true love>implying he deserves to be in a relationship
>>82436808
Too bad for Dave that John "Fags In Body Bags" Egbert is still not a homosexual.
>>82436808
incredible
he said he couldn't do it
>>82436892
Hello, I am Jade Harley.
Nice to meet you. Now pretend to be John Egbert, so I can molest you.
>>82436901
Not with that attitude.
>>82436883
It's not done yet! I think mine is the next thing on her queue after the one she's currently working on.
>>82436933
Well Dave turned out to be bi, so technically he kept his word?
remember that time john lost his shit and threaten to kill an eleven year old child while in what must have been the gayest moment of his life?
>>82436794
The dickens you say!
>>82436976
John "flambé the gay" Egbert
>>82436997
does... does that imply hes going to kill them or fuck them?
>>82436976
That whole section pretty much validates all the anti-degeneracy headcanons we seem to have around John.
>>82436952
:33< FUCK OFF
>>82436997
Wasn't this artist very big on JohnRose?
>>82437028
beating a scrawny kid up over puerile sexism is pretty sjw, yeah
is everything still silent from hussie?
still nothing at all?
is he even alive?
>>82437040
from the booru it seems so, yes
>>82437115
No you see it was all about keeping up to his pure christian values. John didn't care about the sexism. He just didn't like the loodness of it all with all the smut and sloppy makeouts going on.
>>82437156
what is even going on there
i can understand if Hussie himself is tired or depressed or busy or afraid of the fandom
but he has a company now, someone must say something
theyre losing what little momentum they regained
>>82437040
she never stopped shipping it, even when rose started dating kanaya
>>82437188
that's just about the saddest thing i've ever heard
>>82437188
Who just starts rubbing their junk during what is obviously a relaxed nap/cuddle/gaming session? I swear, some people have no restraint.
>>82437197
*thats just about the saddest thing i ever heard get said
>>82437197
i for one am glad someone decided to draw it
>>82437186
no news about plans for hs, no news on the game, absolutely fucking nothing
not even a personal thought
After like a year and change of being kind of burned out on the whole thing, my creative collaborator and I have decided, upon feeling a sort of dissatisfaction with the ending of Homestuck, to get back to and finish this whole big illustrated fic that we'd been working on off-and-on-and-off-and-on for a couple of years now. This elabourate Dirk/Kanaya romance/smut thing that picked up a few hundred followers on Tumblr and which has produced what might politely be termed some 'heated' discussions on Reddit and /co/ in the past. I figured I'd post some of the worksafe illustrations we've come up with over the years, and if anyone's interested in the whole thing we can chatter about it.
>>82437212
fuck oops, meant for >>82437202
>>82437197
you i agree with
Dave went from being grounded and emotionally complex to a whiny SJW
And I hate the term SJW but he literally sobs about toxic masculinity while sucking on Karkat's cock
Remember back in Act 4 when Dave has that conversation with Rose about restarting the timeline and starts subtly freaking out because he can't wrap his head around the possibility of killing current Rose by doing so?
Now he's just a goddamn whiner.
At least John and Roxy stayed great to till the end
>>82437210
no fuck you it's that's
>>82437226
to be perfectly desu, that thing got far more cringe out of me than laughs, but any content is good content now
>>82437241
no i don't remember this freakout
>>82437231
I'm just saying that there's a time and place for everything, once you start trying to feel yourself up while your bro-who-is-also-probably-your-lover is trying to get his game on nothing's off limits. Next thing you know it's footjobs at Christmas dinner with the inlaws and god knows what else.
>>82437226
We had a lot of fun with this one; playing around with different visual effects to get a god tier ascension which looked true to what the comic presented us with whilst still sort of being its own thing.
>>82437247
That wasn't even the important part of what I was correcting, and you're STILL wrong.
>>82437243
oh boy
>>82437274
awesome
>>82437226
I remember seeing your shit on paheal and thinking "this is so strange and oddly specific and not appealing at all."
I hope you continue it regardless.
Davejohn was an alright ship
>>82437278
>drip luminescent blobs off of his form
that sounds awesome, you guys should've drawn it more like that
>>82437283
no fuck you it's that's just about the saddest thing i've ever heard
that is just about the saddest thing i have ever heard
where's the fucking problem asshole because i'm not seeing it
Never forget that Dave is Texan.
>>82437252
We were going for a vibe which straddled the line between irony and sincerity, which we agreed was the best approach for a story which centred around Dirk. At least in its original conception. The idea of taking this seemingly-absurd premise and approaching it in seeming seriousness without ever totally losing sight of the ludicrousness of it all felt pretty satisfying.
>>82437175
Caliborn was drawing Davekat yaoi. That's why John had to kick his ass. He was trying to make Hussie stop being a gay SJW, but it was too late and Davekat was already canon.
>>82436029
Davesprite should have taken his place as main Dave
Davesprite lost a lot through the game and actually did his quest
Dave was just spoiled, let others do shit for him and spent most of his time letting a blind girl tell him what to do
>>82437321
>>82437279
>John: Dispatch these pests.
Holy shit, I remember laughing so hard at this page when I first saw it. Such a good gag.
>>82437294
Well, the specificity of it was obviously owing to the fact that it was all a part of a single, specific story, right? While certain deviations here and there were expected and necessary, if it's all a part of a single narrative, there's going to be a certain common thread to most of it, right? I do hope that with practice it's gotten more visually appealing.
>>82437342
davesprite got the worst fate
but it made him happy
>Characters who need the sweet embrace of death:
Remember when John kissed Gamzee
>>82437346
man i didn't even remember dave said something like that. wasn't even tryin to quote the comic
so fuck you for making me think i was crazy for a second
>>82437367
No
When
>>82437360
This sort of shading is painful to look at.
>>82437303
>>82437320
>>82437371
the fuck are you doing
John didn't kill one villain
>>82437369
Any time, buddy.
>>82437385
he's mad about the gays
its upsetting to him
In retrospect John was so fucking straight. There wasn't a single gay bone in that kid's body.
>>82437404
cant argue with that
>>82437376
I think sometimes it works better than others. I'm not always 100% happy with the results myself, but it's all just self-taught. I'm sure if I'd had the opportunity to go to school for this sort of thing I'd have better ways to approach the whole thing. I'm more than open to any constructive critique, though.
>>82437404
>tfw John probably would have also been gay in act 6 if Hussie didn't already say he wasn't a homosexual
>>82437404
Maybe not natively, but he might have allowed a few foreign entities to intrude, if you catch my drift.
>>82437393
John "Smite the Catamite" Egbert doesn't kill, he breaks
>>82437399
>>82437413
What's the deal with the yaoi face. It's so distinctive.
>>82437399
>>82437413
post more davejohn please
>this entire thread
>>82437415
Wait, you drew that? Sorry, I would haven been more tactful had I known.
>>82437444
Nice, trips.
>>82437430
Y'know is aradia the oldest living being in the comic? She was alive from the green sun's creation all the way till the end of paradox space.
>>82437415
giving dirk the overly mainly physique is kind of distracting, because the shading and style doesn't work well with it. I think a leaner less muscled approach would've worked better for you
>>82437415
I like your shading as a visual gag-- a lot of bad porn comics and that horrible Liefeld-era cape stuff have that exaggerated terrible shading
If it's supposed to look good, and not alienating, it needs more subtlety
>>82437451
Maybe thats why shes so crazy about wanting to see the end
>>82437415
>>82437457
That's a great way of putting it, I agree.
>>82437439
as you wish
>>82437447
sweet i dont have that one
>>82437433
Yaoi face is nowhere near as distinctive as yaoi hands.
Why Hussie make Damara specifically Japanese? Never got an Asian vibe from Aradia
>>82437413
This picture makes me want to be kissed by another man
>>82437479
>>82437471
You should browse mspabooru from time to time, there appear to be new additions daily.
I guess this is how Pearlstuck would look like.
>>82436309
Expect there better than the actual homestuck.
>>82437498
nice
go for it
>>82437506
oh wow
i almost like it? a little too unsettling i think
>>82437481
because lil handmaid had a bun and something Not Unlike a school girl uniform
so the entire fandom went "lmao hentai"
>>82437481
Originally she was kind of a Sadako archetype.
I just realized that Karkat is the character that's had the most amount of people hit on him, so Dave going gay for him makes sense.
>>82437524
why are you throwing a fit
>>82437481
Aradia seemed like a stereotypical Japanese Ghost Girl.
>>82437517
>go for it
I would but I don't know where to find gay guys
>>82437526
everybody loves karkat
>>82437415
What sticks out to me the most are the folds in clothing. It looks too organic, and not like fabric to me.
>>82437544
i dont
UHH, ALL THE GAY PEOPLE OR FAGGOTS AS I LIKE TO CALL THEM, GET OUT OF THIS UNIVERSE BECAUSE IT'S FOR STRAIGHT PEOPLE ONLY, UNDERSTAND?
CAUSE IF YOU DON'T I WILL MAKE FAGGOTS GRAVES AGAIN!!!!
>>82437481
It was just a another web-joke (google translate) to fill out the Beforus cast, but it also allowed the Alternian Damara to be an Asian schoolgirl for the whole doc scratch bit because reasons. Wait, actually I think that came first, so it probably informed the decision.
As a side note, fuck the Beforus cast. Homestuck spent far too long just introducing characters simply because the horoscope thing had made a fuckhuge google spreadsheet of potential characters that never actually needed to be introduced. Bluh!Even though I do like some of them.
>>82437542
gay bar?
try a gay bar
>>82437555
>fairy dave
heh
>Rose is so terrible Hussie replaced her with her mom
Kek
>>82437570
thank you i didnt have this either
>>82437197
just about
>>82437594
What a rotund Rose.
>>82437556
every troll has a lot of potential and its kind of a shame that Hivebent wasn't its own separate adventure. some of the dancestors have elements of fucking awesome characterisation, but it falls flat if not being entirely contradicted by their internet persona parodies.
>>82437594
oof
>>82437590
too brown
>>82437594
too fat
>>82437606
>People ship Rose and John
why
john's superior mother is right there
also i know the kids are a-racial but i've never found a picture of johnroxy where them being brown improved the picture
>>82437606
shit taste
>>82437625
because shipping the first boy and girl in the comic is easy and they're too lazy to adjust to changing storyline?
>>82437625
are you suggesting johnjane or rosejane
where are some crack ships
I dont know why but I like John <3< Terezi
But I also dont remember there being anything between them
>>82437657
yes
>>82437658
oh boy do you really want them?
anything in particular?
>>82437658
This whole thread is filled with them.
>>82437625
>i know the kids are a-racial
That's sort of an invention of Act 6 Hussie; in Act 5 and before, they were consistently described as being pink-skinned and/or white, but around the end of Act 5 he got a flood of SJW fans who started freaking out about race, and he did a sudden about-face and started pretending like he hadn't previously been writing them as white, and like the text which described them as such wasn't still in the comic.
>>82437625
Because snarky girl + occasionally snarky goofy goober interactions are cute.
>>82437671
What is the best Tavros ship?
No Vriska, unless its Tavros being a pimp
>cloud computing
Wasn't this artist crazy though?
>>82437658
>>82437586
Great decision desu
>>82436094
>2014
What a ride.
>>82437686
fuck vriska
best tavros ship is either team charge or big gay elephant
>>82437671
>>82437658
Luzerna/sock really is the queen of crack ships.
>>82437658
>>82437226
I like your porn. You're obviously a pedo though. Even being into anime loli I found some of your stuff a little uncomfortable.
>>82437688
>Jane/Sollux
why
>>82437697
yes
yEs
YES
>>82437710
>Jane
anon...
>>82437710
>jane
>>82437710
>jane
oh anon
