What went wrong, /co/?
>>82363101
>video game movie
Too many cooks spoil the broth, this thing had a bunch of producers from a bunch of countries involved; all with their own ideas of how they wanted the movie to turn out
>Sony Pictures
Found the problem
>>82363101
They made a movie based on a video game.
I think the only time that ever worked well was the first Mortal Kombat.
>>82363235
The Japanese Ace Attorney movie is pretty good
1. Video game adaptation.
2. Video game adaptation made long after the game had it's commercial and social peak.
3. Video game adaptation made long after the game had it's commercial and social peak, made by some no-name animation studio who has only done barbie movies and the new bob the builder show that everyone hates before now.
>>82363101
>nothing happens
>boring action
>dumb characters
>boring script
>bad cgi
>couldn't decide which storylines to follow
>predictable plot
>lackluster acting
>no emotions
>forgettable premise
>lazy plot devices
>stolen ideas
>overstuffed plot
>dumb audience
>confusing editing
>laughed at how terrible the music was
>sound effects were cheap
>scenes were fake looking
>shower was broken at theater.
>10/10 would meme again
>>82363101
Critically? Videogame movies suck. perior.
Commercially? The Ratchet & Clank fans are too old to watch it in theaters. And for kids it would be competing with freaking Zootopia for attention.
Just look at that generic Playstation-3 looking poster.
>>82363133
/thread
>>82363279
Story based game does well in a story based medium. It's not a big shock.
>>82363101
It's not made by Disney.
Doesn't revolve around lame jokes and furry faggotry like Zootopia.
>>82363290
Don't forget
>pushed the release date back so it could coincide with the release of a tie in video game
My friend and I just went to go see it.
And I hadn't played much of Ratchet & Clank.
It was exactly what I expected. A movie that moves through itself very quickly leaving little time to explain or develop characters with cliche plotpoints and writing.
That being said, I had fun. Probably because I was in a theater with my friend, so we could point out the subtle things. It's a shame we can't ever get a genuinely well constructed video game movie, though.
>>82363746
But isn't that exactly what it is?
The movie itself is fucking bland as shit, bringing in all star actors who don't have any interesting aspects as characters and zero chemistry to take screen time away from the original cast and lacks a lot of the imagination the games had
It also doesn't help that thanks to shit like Zootopia and Inside Out, pretentious critics want every kids film to be heavy handed message loaded bullshit instead of just simple films with simple plots
>>82363793
Undertale's movie will be good.
>>82363746
>>82363793
Don't worry anon. The Warcraft movie is coming out and it's gonna be EPIC!
it wasn't made by disney
>>82363235
I dont think that worked well
it worked out, but it didnt work well
>>82363279
Not really 2bh
>>82363969
just like the FNAF movie, I'm sure
>>82363101
It wasn't a proper adaptation of the first game. Should've stuck to making Chairman Drek the main villain, and save the other guy for a potential sequel.
>>82363969
Most video games don't work well as movies because of the way the media are different, interactivity being one of the most important factors. Undertale is a game made specifically to deconstruct certain video game tropes. The story would not work at all in any other medium.
>>82363101
What I want to know is why is Space Jam rated higher.
>>82364235
>It wasn't a proper adaptation of the first game.
Insomniac really doesn't like the first game's Ratchet and how he was a selfish prick so we never had a chance to getting a proper retelling of that story.
>>82363969
Undertale relies a lot on its game mechanics/visual style to present its story. Not saying its impossible, but I think whoever made it would have to be pretty ambitious.
>>82363133
As usual first post is best. Why did the thread keep going past here
>>82364734
Because of it's awesome theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-dMSstLDqM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8-c80TN1I0
What DIDN'T go wrong?
>>82363101
doesn't begin with a Disney or Pixar logo
>>82365052
>another poor child triggered by a fictional character beingmean-spirited
Looks like you weren't beaten enough in your time.
>>82365672
It's a valid complaint if it's a violation of established character.
>>82363969
So when do we get ourHomestuck movie?
Come on Basco don't let us down.
>>82363101
Is anyone commenting even seen the movie or are all of you just making sweeping assumptions and generalizations?
>>82363101
>one reviewer said that Ratchet really wasn't using any crazy guns and that other characters were the ones shooting
>Ratchet did use his wrench a lot
>>82363101
Jeremy Jahns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVm8Kg6iwJo
Cinefix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qrrzbaGoiQ
I'm trusting JJ on this one.
Simple.
There has never been a decent video game storyline ever and are all shit. It's not the studio's fault they're working with shit source material.
>>82365864
>Youtube reviewers
Have SOME standards anon, fuck.
>>82364734
It's theme is as remixable as Guile's.
>>82365896
>There has never been a decent video game storyline ever and are all shit
>>82365896
Go back to /v/
>>82365955
>listening to out of touch hipster reviewers who couldn't name a non-Disney CGI movie to save their life.
>>82365970
Go ahead. Prove me wrongYou can't
>>82366083
>Implying any person with common sense listens to reveiwers
>>82366128
>>82366128
well i cant really prove ashitopinion wrong so there you go
>>82365672
I think you completely misread what I said.
Insomniac, the developers of Ratchet and Clank, did not like the end product of Ratchet's character in the first game. So much that they decided to get a new VA for him to distance the character even further and it's why they dodged making a remake for such a long time.
I personally thought it would have been great to have asshole ratchet back as that could have made for a good character arc in the movie.
>>82364734
Because it had Dan Aykroyd.
>>82363101
Why are video games so hard to adapt?
>>82366222
>I'm not even going to try to defend my point
wew lad
Nefarious is probably R+C's best character but he's not as great a character as he is stretched out across the canon.
>>82366219
Fuck off matpat
>>82366349
Fuck off, Undermeme
>>82366237
Adapting a story from one medium to another is difficult, especially when those stories have different scopes. A film is only 100~ minutes and most traditionally fall into a 3 act story whereas video game stories are much long with a much consistent kind of pacing.
That doesn't even begin on what the creators of the film take away from the video game experience.
>>82366348
Probably added him because Drek is dreck.
>>82366387
>You don't like a thing that must mean you're part of x party
>>82366348
It doesn't help that
>A. He's shoehorned into this story where he isn't needed
>B. His robot form is retconned, removing some of the best aspects of his character, including the Lance and Janice bits
>C. Lawrence isn't with him, which slices out half of a genius two man comedy act
>>82363101
My friend is a big fan of the series and wants to go see it tomorrow, but I've never played a single game of it.
I was more of a Jak and Daxter guy.
>>82366222
even your trips cant save you
>>82366504
How'd you enjoythe death battle?
>>82366474
Thanks for the (You).
>mfw the game looks better than the movie.
>>82363969
>A game in which multiple elements of the story rely on and twist the idea of it being a game
>working as a movie
Come on, son.
>>82363969
Undertale would work better as a miniseries.
>>82364734
Because Jordan. Everybody wanted to be like Mike.
>>82366895
I had a blast playing this at my frat's house and watching people coming in and saying "holy shit this looks nice"
Video games trying to make movies never made sense to me anyway. Video games are a higher level of entertainment than movies and tv. They're not passive, you are in the story in a video game. Going back down to the passive experience of film robs a video games narrative of it's drive.
>>82366348
His lack of Lawrence doesn't help.
>>82363101
20 MILLION
JUST
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>>82367119
/thread. This is why every v-g movie is screwed from the beginning
>>82363101
It wasn't a video game. Spyro's sacrifice was in vain.
>>82367356
But Spyro still lives. In Skylanders! Get your starter pack today!
>>82367356
>Thinking the edgy adventures of Spyro would be received any better
I'm glad the movie exists if only so I could get an amazing ratchet game on the PS4. It' literally the best game I've played this year and yes that includes dark Souls 3. There's something to be said for pure bright fun.
>>82368324
If Dark Souls 3 wasn't pure bright fun then you weren't praising the sun enough.
>>82368372
>>82368372
>>82368372
I didn't have time for that. I was too busy feeling a sense of deja vu. Almost like I played that game before a year earlier but with a different coat of paint.
>>82367577
Spyro was originally going to have a movie as well, but thank god it was canceled.
>>82368445
If you had time for deja vu then you had time for praising the sun
Or at least praising the soup
>>82366491
>>82367146
>No Lawrence
THEN WHAT'S THE POINT OF NEFARIOUS?!
>>82368522
instead we got skylanders.....thanks
>>82368646
Because he was a fan favorite character in a film desperately trying to appeal to fans while being a boring, cliche-ridden film
>>82363101
Just got back from seeing it.
It wasn't that bad. My only complaint is Quarks redemption arc was way too fast.
Otherwise, the only reason it's being shit on is because
>not Disney/Pixar
>>82368678
Then they should have included LAWRENCE.
So I've heard that the humor is "too childish". Does that mean the jokes are all IMMATURE or are they just kid-friendly? Because R&C has always been pretty clean as far as humor goes.
>>82366128
You can't prove an opinion, nor disprove it, but if I were to try and change your mind, my argument would have to be:
I actually liked it fine.
>>82368813
I can agree that red dead is the best game of the last decade. it's my 2nd favorite game period. Behind the incomparable Super Mario World.
>>82363998
le virgin wants to fuck a rabbit, killy yourself
>>82368808
I thought the jokes were spot on with the games.
I got a pretty good laugh out of "WILHELM!"
>>82368808
The humor is exactly what it's like in the games.
The only reason it's getting shit on is because
>not Disney/Pixar
>>82368876
loved that gag. unfortunately, only myself and the other 2 adults in the theater got it.
The 10 other kids didn't get it
>>82368876
>>82368880
Okay, that's good. As long as the movie is like a solid 6-8/10 I'll be happy. I wasn't expecting a cinematic masterpiece, I just want Ratchet and Clank.
>>82368876
I could've sworn that the bot shouting that name was voiced by Cronk's VA.
>>82368922
I'd rate it 7.5/10
pacing was wonkey in some places, but this is pretty much what I expected from the first RnC movie
>>82368808
If anything, it's not immature enough. There's no crotchetizer in this new game or movie.
>>82368952
Dude, me too! I thought they were going to introduce him or have an easter egg with him or something.
>Replacing Kevin Michael Richardson as Drek with Paul Giamatti
Fuck everybody.
>>82367119
So here's anon's observation of information richness.
A successful adaptation to a different medium can only occur when the adaptation moves up to a more information rich medium.
It does not work the other way.
>>82364047
See, that's a movie that might possibly end up good, because it's got a decent director.
>>82368522
>Eragon
Good chance it would've been in name only if it stayed with that producer.
>>82369177
>Warcraft
>good
nigga, that shits been dead since Wrath
Blizzard is just trying to milk a corpse at this point- but it might do well in China, since that's the only demo that's left that plays that shit
>>82369177
And don't forget the Assassin's Creed movie in which, right this moment, you can pre-order tickets and if you pay enough, you'll get a pre-order bonus replica crossbow.
I wish I was kidding.
>>82363101
Disney bought the critics again
>>82369355
Pretty much.
The movie wasn't perfect, but it was a fairly solid first RnC movie.
>>82369355
I doubt Disney is even aware this movie exists.
>>82368813
Hyperbole and shitposting aside
Take out the gameplay and Red Dead is just another decent western, not great just decent. And if it ever got a movie would be seen as such.
Movies are an entirely different playing field than games. Even the most "cinematic" video games have only ever been meh at best by movie standards. Adapt any game and the critical outcry will be how it's a lazier version of a better movie.
I could be wrong come Warcraft, but then again I don't know dick about the Warcraft games either so I don't know.
>>82369474
>Disney is unaware of Sony pictures or any other studio that does animation
sure thing
>>82369295
>Ubisoft thinks you can manipulate movie audiences like game audiences
Now that's just silly
>>82369295that's a pretty cool pre-order bonus
>>82369567
Nig that ain't Sony Animation studios proper. It's one of their shitty b-team studios they use to make money laundering movies
That's like saying Sony cares about Disney making Strange Magic
Love these Rotten Tomato reviews
>>82364158
At least most of the characters look like they do in the game.Except Redd White for some reason.
>>82369040
There's a good reason for this. Drek is completely different in the movie and he's a giant tool now. Having Kevin reprise his role wouldn't work with how much of a putz Drek is now.
How is this a BAD thing?
![[a toast].gif](https://i.imgur.com/PC7GOuJ.gif "[a toast].gif")
>>82368860
Mah nigga, I'd have to put RDR at #1, myself, but I understand that love for Supa Mayro Wurl, its level design is top notch, its music kicks ass, and its gameplay perfected 2d platforming. By far, the best, and if not one of the best Marios.
>>82369743
>Strange Magic.
That was an odd movie. I don't know what was weirder, the strange subtext of social politics or the implied gang bang involving the sister.
>>82366225
Why would you hate a character who arcs?
>>82369834
Because if you're going to do a movie adaptation of a video game, then you need to make it vastly different from the source material, of course
>>82369541
I understand what you got to say, but you must understand: I am a hopelessly cynical man.
Hell, all of us on this site are cynical. We're all so cynical that most of us can barely like something beyond a point we all call decent. Where we don't hate it, but at the same time we don't love it.
To this day, I see Red Dead as an amazing western because regardless of how many times I replay it, it always reminds me of the first time I picked it up. RDR's diverse gameplay, method of story telling, and excellent process of character development (that being that you simply watch every guy do his thing until you understand him, sort of mirroring real life) pretty much set up what I would later look for in games. It became what mattered to me.
So, you can think what you think of RDR and I will certainly respect it, as I have no control over what you think. But to me, it will always be a gem that has earned a 10/10 across the board, because it has the power to kill my cynicism.
The bizarre thing is that the game's version of the movie is actually significantly better than the theater version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBhqh1qYntU A lot of the scenes brought over from the movie are edited to remove a lot of unnecessary jokes and dialogue and are way more snappy as a result. The scene introducing Clank in the game is brief but gives you everything you need to know and is enjoyable to watch. The movie version is like three minutes longer and full of irrelevant bullshit.
>>82370213
Not to mention the game makes the universe seem a lot bigger. You visit at least a dozen different planets all with different looks and species of aliens. Meanwhile the movie is what, 4 locations? Veldin, Quartu, Kerwan and deplanetizer if my memory serves.
>>82369699
Not really. You probably have to pay a shitload of money and it'll probably be made out of shitty material or not even work.
Saw the film a short while ago. Spoilers below.It had some good jokes, but everything else felt forced and slow.The Daxter, Sly, and the third character I can't seem to remember bit was okay, but quite pointless. It did show Sly's movie form and a very detailed Daxter.Plumbing Guy showed up in the crowdand after the credits.MR. ZURKON WILL BEin it for a short bit and only say about 5 different lines.There wasn't a whole lot of Ratchet and Clank being together or building their relationship.The Omni-Wrench was used for combat only ONCE.The RYNO makes an appearance which included an on-screen breakdown of the name (with a trademark being stamped to it)Quark was the worst part of the film. It would've worked fine if Quark had assigned Ratchet the mission and gone to some vacation planet under the guise of an ultra-secret mission.Nefarious was annoying and did need Lawrence to make him complete. The teaser with him at the end came off as obligatory what with most movies dropping hints at sequels that might not ever happen. I blame Marvel for that.Stallone did well as the side villain. But there were times where I couldn't tell it was him.There was a bunch of other iffy bits, but it would take too long to address them.
>>82371101
>>82371421
was this really necessary
>>82371421
"" Daxter? ""
>>82371657
jak and daxter
>>82363235
It worked decent for Doom.
It was dumb, but I laughed at "dust and gas."
>>82371816
That was only because of that 1 st person scene at the end and because of Dwayne Johnson.
It had its moments. I'm not going to say it's bad. I'm not going to say it's good either.
>>82366128
>>82372645
>thinking "MUH DAUGHTER" is a good story
>>82371421
oh there was a daxter cameo?
I assume Qwark stole the show like he always does?
the only part that really bothered me was they dont know what species he is and not 5 minutes later they start calling him a lombax.
>>82373181It was a quick still image of him during Clank's analysis of Ratchet when he was trying to figure out what species he was.
>>82364734
because Bill Murray
>>82363290
>made long after teh game had its commercial and social peak
I thougth the game was still selling super well, and was still being talked about?
>>82368813
>RDR
>good storyline
>hurrf duurff I SEEK REDEMPTION!
>spend the whole game killing people for a few bucks
>"ho no, don't die at the end of the game, this is too sad!!!"
>>82369799
The best thing would've been to not make Drek into a massive putz and not blow their load on Dr. Nefarious so quickly.
>>82372897
Name a single game that you can't sum up with "MUH _________"
>>82376551
Wargame EE.
>>82376551
TableTop Simulator.
>>82376617
muh wargame
>>82376632
muh table-flip
>>82376641
>muh table-flip
>>82365132
>>82367007
>Implying you can't groundhogs day that shit and split it into a two parter.
>>82376641
Sonic
Monkey Island
Jazz Jackrabbit
Dune
Warcraft
>>82375746
The game apparently is the fastest selling R&C game ever and has reviewed pretty well. I myself had a lot of fun with the game. It had it's flaws (cut planets, crappy Insomniac Museum, too many reused weapons from the Future games when there should've at least been more reused weapons from R&C1), but it still manages to be a good R&C game that may not be as great as GC or UYA or ACiT, but it's easily around the range of DL or ToD or the original game itself. I wonder how Insomniac will interpret the success of the game alongside the failure of the movie?Also is anyone kinda looking forward to Song of the Deep?
>>82376689
muh animals
muh childhood crush
Never played
muh spice
>Warcraft
shit nigga, there's enough muhs there to write a book.
>>82376214
This is the worst post I've ever seen on this entire site. Fuck me man you didn't even try.
>>82376755
>Mabel from Gravity Falls ripoff
top kek
>>82376779
>muh childhood crush
?
>>82371421
Al showed up?
>>82376876
Yeppers.Fourth Wall break and everything. Didn't interact with any of the cast, though.
>>82376935
I dunno how I missed it when I saw his redesign so often. Maybe someone will drop a screenshot in the future so it'll jog my memory.
Movie is paced horribly and moves way too fast.
The movie itself acts like its trying to rush through
Wasn't terrible. Just meh.
>>82369237
We're not talking about World of Warcraft though. The movie is based off Warcraft I.
>>82371809
My sister and I played Jak and Daxter so much when I was younger. I used to confuse it with Ratchet and Clank, which I never played.
>>82377874
Oh Rosario Dawson, you were the only celebrity who seemed to care.
I don't understand why the fuck does this movie exists.
Who still cares about Ratchet and Clank? Does someone ever really cared about Ratchet and Clank?
>>82379326
>Who still cares about Ratchet and Clank?
Considering that the newest game is the fastest selling in franchise history, quite a few people apparently.
>>82369889
>Implied gang bang
Yeah, i'm gonna need more information on that
>>82363538
nice joke and im going to go see it
i feel people are looking for a reason to give it bad reviews
>>82379349
Sony mascot games sell but no one seems to talk about them. It's strange.
>>82370204
RDR was a good game but would make a terrible movie... go watch Unforgiven instead.
>>82379965
Or the Magnificent 7 in theatres this September.
>>82379914
Even before the new game came out /v/ has had pretty consistent Ratchet & Clank threads. Hell, I'd argue that R&C is one of those vidya series with minimal shitposting most of the time. I mean there is still some shitposting in R&C threads occasionally, but you know, it's /v/.
>>82379965
All out of games with good stories would make bad movies because the gameplay parts add a lot to the impact of the stories. RDR's story has more impact because you are the one making the decisions and pulling the trigger. The end sequence would have far less impact if it was just a cutscene for instance.
So this is the Batman Vs Superman of vidya?
>>82380610
No, because everyone loves the game.
>>82380610
No, because Batman vs Superman was actually bad.
>>82376755
Might be cool. I am interested on seeing a bigger company take on the Metroidvania
>>82363101
>critics hate it because it's a non-disney kids film based on a video game
>general public who go see it and rate it think it's a mediocre kids movie
Nobody should have expected anything more than this
>>82366491
To be faira scene after the credits shows Nefarious emerge from the wreckage of the Deplanetizer, completely in his robot form.
Personally I feel like it may be a set up for a sequel.
>>82376876
>The Plumbing Guy.
>Says it's "Al"...."Big Al"
Al is a different character. The guys name is just "The Plumber"
>>82366491
>His robot form is retconned
In UYA it was established that nefarious was a squishy before being turned into a robot. It's not a retcon to now show him before that point
It IS however a cheap ploy at trying to pander to fans since the movie is ridden with corporate decisions. TJ Fixman abandoned the movie 2 years ago after creative differences with the director mainly regarding style of humor. Seeing how the final product is full of cliche 'kids movie' jokes, it's clear what happened
https://tjfixman.wordpress.com/2016/04/02/a-farewell-to-lombaxes/
>>82368808
>Because R&C has always been pretty clean as far as humor goes.
>he was butt nekkid and holding a banana. Or at least I think it was a banana. It could have been-
>-ONE OF NATURE'S MYSTERIES
>what a load of bullsh-
>-SHHHH
>>82363101
knew it was gonna be shit based on the trailer and Sly movie looks even worse, so it'll probably be lower.
Sony should make a god of war movie instead of the kiddie shit.
>Video Game movies will always ended up being terrible outside of Fuck-it Frank
>>82381770
God of War would just be something like 300
>>82374740
That's pretty sweet
