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MTMTE 52 preview out. TF 52 full preview out.

Oh and RiD2015 might be getting more than three seasons.
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It's Ravioli again but the plot seems interesting enough to look over it.
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>>81872654
When will Starscream get BTFO?
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>>81872803
Never. He is the chosen one. He is a wordsmith of assery.
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Swerve is going to die isn't he.
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>>81873386

nah. it'll more likely be Skids or Nightbeat.
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Is there a reading order for IDW Transformers?
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>>81874594

I don't have the image guide but you can start with Death Of Optimus Prime since it's supposedly a starting point for beginners.
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>RiD might be getting 4 seasons
Yeeeees this will be gre-
>On CN
Oh....
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>>81872531
>>81872555
>a fucking spread
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Ah, just thread I'm looking for. Finished Dark Cybertron story or what name is, with Shockwave as bad guy, and I don't mind being spoiled, so...
Is there any reason why DJD didn't go to Cybertron and kill fuck out of all Decepticons that became neutrals?
Will Starscream become better king?
How actually are powerful DJD? They took out Phase Sixer like he was nothing
Is it me or Hot Rod wasn't that much of hothead until he got Matrix and later spaceship?
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>>81880315
>Is there any reason why DJD didn't go to Cybertron and kill fuck out of all Decepticons that became neutrals?
Probably were low priority if at all; people who make it to the List are those who are enemies of the Decepticreep cause
>Will Starscream become better king?
See attached picture
>How actually are powerful DJD? They took out Phase Sixer like he was nothing
Ver...y...? They were all custom-designed to take down phase sixers but they're far from invincible. They have a super-fuel and strong metal coating and etc.. but they seem above-average at best imo, we saw some protagonists give them some difficulty at times.
>Is it me or Hot Rod wasn't that much of hothead until he got Matrix and later spaceship?
For you
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>>81880315
>Is there any reason why DJD didn't go to Cybertron and kill fuck out of all Decepticons that became neutrals?
They didn't know the war was over or what was going on the home world.

>Will Starscream become better king?
Maybe. Maybe not. I want to see him suffer and learn from his mistakes.

>How actually are powerful DJD?
The DJD jack themselves up with a special fuel only them and Megatron knew about. It makes them insanely strong and somewhat unstable.

>Is it me or Hot Rod wasn't that much of hothead until he got Matrix and later spaceship?
He kinda was before. Afterwards just exaggerates it more.
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>>81880614
>>81880648
Thanks for answers, anons. I was headcanoning that DJD is used to Starscream's treachery and didn't want to bother.
And that's what I meant about Hot Rod. He was reckless in first comics I read and later on Lost Light he's super reckless. Then again, everyone's personalities were exaggerated. Ultra Magnus punishing everyone left and right and Whirl's constant berserking...
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>>81880811

If only Optimus knew how reckless he was before giving him the Matrix of leadership. I'm sure it would of come in reeeeeaaally handy for him right now.
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>>81880937
What happened to Optimus?
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>>81881059
Optimus didn't want to deal with anymore shit. Left Cybertron to live out his life as Orion Pax. Instead people kept pestering him for help and dragged his metal ass back to Cybertron. He's not welcome anywhere. Goes to earth to stop Galvatron. Also not welcomed on earth by the humans.

Optimus is tired of all this piling shit. Plants a flag into earth and annexed it. (His way of taking over). Nobody likes that.

I kinda wonder if the Matrix influenced his decisions because he's been making some pretty poor choices lately.
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>>81874594
Start with Season 1, or start with Last Stand of the Wreckers and The Transformers #22/23, or start with -ations and read the whole damn thing.
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>>81881188
Yeah, I saw that Optimus left and became Orion. He wants out of heroics, but he's kept being dragged back, so to say. Rodimus wasn't happy when he saw him on Lost Light exactly because everyone wants Optimus to lead. At least it looks like that to me, anyway.
>Plants a flag into earth and annexed it. (His way of taking over). Nobody likes that.
88 dubs confirm, Optimus is mecha Hitler.
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>>81881245
>read the whole damn thing.
>Exposing him/her to Costa's Spike

No anon. Don't. Not on your first run.
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>Everyone is having a bad time.
>While TC is playing with his dog, writing horrible screenplays, and probably being cheeky knowing Marissa actually cares.

It's good to be Thundercracker.
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>>81881313
>Costa's Spike
They have to learn someday.
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>>81881188
>I kinda wonder if the Matrix influenced his decisions because he's been making some pretty poor choices lately.

At this point I just assume that IDW has some sort of in-house editorial law that Optimus must always be wrong and cannot be the wise, powerful leader he is supposed to be. He's extremely...Whats the word for it? Flanderized? Or whatever. Basically, nothing he ever does is right through a combination of circumstance that always makes it the wrong choices.
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whew lads
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Pacifism is a morally bankrupt philosophy. Megatron's supposed change for the better is nothing but self-indulgent wanking. Decepticons forever!
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>>81882019
He looks angry. I don't like it when grandpa is angry. Has he been drinking?
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>>81880648
Is Starscream still talking to himself?
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The personality ticks are a metaphor for trigger-happy autistic fans who glom on to Roberts's natural charisma.
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>>81881765
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Flanderization
If Prime were Flanderized, he would only be an infallible leader.
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>This may sound silly, but do you take voices into consideration when writing a character? Most people would claim to "hear" the voices in their head when they read. Do you ever give it much thought?

>It’s not a silly question and I do give it some thought, mainly because so many readers ask me “Who do you think X sounds like?” And I have to give a very dull – but truthful – response and say, “S/he has a British accent and sounds a bit like me.” I have an imagination deficit in this regard, because I really don’t ‘hear’ their literal voices. I do, of course, know their voices in terms of their character – what they would and wouldn’t do, what they’d say, how they’d say it, the rhythms of their speech and so on, but I don’t, say, write a line for Nautica and hear a certain actress’s voice. But I know that many fans DO, and that’s great!

Roberts agrees that all of his characters sound the same.
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I'm new to transformers comics. Any good starting point?

Pic related looks interesting
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>>81883920
>>81881245
Your pic is from The Transformers #22/23 which was written by the guy that co-wrote Last Stand of the Wreckers and singly writes More than Meets the Eye.
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>>81872654
>"You manipulate with words, Starscream."
>"Yes, Optimus, that's what words are for. It's easier than manipulating by punching tables."
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I want Optimus to die again.
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>>81883920
Yeah, that's a good one.
Recommended starting point: Last Stand of the Wreckers. If you liked that, go for The Death Of Optimus Prime, followed by The Transformers: More Than Meets The Eye.
https://mega.nz/#F!Ax4nUCCT!_5vN--HYA1R6ahJUNcx-wQ You can download them here; they're in the IDW > G1 Reboot folders.
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>>81884596
Oh, uh, also: Once you get to issue 22, go back and start reading The Transformers: Robots In Disguise, because after that they cross over and you'll get confused.
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>>81872508

RID15 getting another season? Where did that come from?

Is this past season (with it ending today) any better than the one that eneded with Megatronus?
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>>81884836

it has to, you can't do worse than Megatronus.
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>>81881765
>>81882676
I still look forward to the day that IDW Optimus falls to the... Dark-Syde... and becomes the equivalent to Megatron joining the Autobots.

Like... he doesn't give a shit of what anyone else thinks of his actions anymore, and just does what he believes is right no matter the cost or the bodies he has to step on.
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>>81872803
Starscream's an ass... but he's not wrong.

Prime did seize power, and he's been... remarkably defensive over his relationship with Megatron (with a habit of taking it out on tables)

Optimus can talk all he wants about how it's got noble intentions, but to everyone else, it looks like an invasion. And it's really just an attempt at vote rigging.
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>>81884836

The staff are tweeting right now about working on a season 4, and it's hard storyboarding and character design work, when that phase starts it means scripts have already begun writing/been written, so yeah pretty confirmed.
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>>81884836

Already saw it, 100 times better than the season 1 finale, since it's actualy part of the plot/it's natural conclusion.

Fixit's faulty memory meant he didn't remember that his part of the Alchemore was only one section of it, there were many more minicons aboard that fell along with the main portion of the starship, which went undetected due to the Alchemore's standard cloaking device. I won't spoil the ending since it's fun stuff, but Steeljaw used the other decepticon hunters stored in the ship to take control of the rest of the criminals.
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>>81886039
Optimus Priime is gay for Megatron now?
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>>81886287
Their relationship's always been a little... interesting.
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>>81873386
his arc is done pretty much. the ground is perfectly laid out for him to die.
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>>81882019
yyyyYYYYYYYYEEEEEEESSSSS
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>>81886168
So if RiD gets a season four on CN or all places, it would be the longest TF series second to RB?
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>>81886497
Kinky
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>>81890131
Good god, this is old, isn't it?
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>>81891716

if it's going to be like 13 or 16 episodes per season like 2 then probably not.
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Have you guys read any comics that Bob Budiansky worked on?

I dated his daughter for a while and honestly liked him a bit more.
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>>81892622
Googled him

> None of the three writers had been able to 'get' the Transformers mythos during the miniseries, and Bob Budiansky spent a lot of time directing the story as its editor -- and even he thinks it was a total mess because nobody could keep track.[2] Because of this, after he was replaced as editor (due to Marvel internal rules) he was made the writer from #5 on: he was the only one who knew enough about the mythos! It was in these years that he developed popular characters Shockwave, Ratchet, and Grimlock into the roles they're famous for today.

Huh. I can't remember much of the 80s comic. I thought Furman was responsible for Grimlock.
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Are the transformers vs gi joe comics any good or is it just cheesy cash in garbage?
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>>81893316
It's cheesy weird in a good way I guess.
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>>81892981
Budiansky and Furman are responsible for 2 different depictions of Grimlocks, really.

>>81892622
I've read some of it. When you read his work alongside the UK material, it seems to not mesh well, but reading his stuff on his own, it's pretty good. There's some really select characters he's good with, like Shockwave, Ratchet, and Ratbat. I prefer his Buster, too.
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>>81893316
Yes.
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>>81892981
>>81893587
Very cool, thanks guys.
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>>81882019
So he is returning
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>>81893718
>>81893316

Maybe I just have the worst taste ever but I read issue 0-2 and just wanted to hang myself. I couldnt go any further.
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>>81892981
Budinsky came up with the notion of Grimlock as a right cunt who thinks he's better than Optimus.

Budinsky and Furman split though on the fact that Budinsky thought Grimlock was an irredeemable tyrant in waiting while Furman saw Grimlock's evil nature as a feature not a flaw, along the lines of how British writers see Judge Dredd as a fascist as a good thing and not as satire
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>>81894400
Some people like it. Some don't. Just the way it is.

>>81894072
>>81882019
I've only seen clips so far and I'm glad they kept his VA. The situation from what I've seen is the rest of the Prime team left to pursue their own things? Who is his minicon?
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>>81894400
Different tastes. I like it because it's a balls out crazy comic with retro stylings, and strange ideas inserting mysticism and religion into the Transformers. It's not for everyone.
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>THOK
It's the NAAARGH of IDW TF
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>>81886497
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>>81894634
What does THOK even suppose to sound like. The first thing that comes into mind is this-

https://youtu.be/gp3xvYT0sJk
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>>81894866
>body touch friend
what is this?
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>>81894876
I figured it sounds something like when you hit a ball with a bat.
It's my favourite sound effect next to CHOOM, THUNK, GROOONK and TSE-TSE-CHU-CHU-TSE, with a hint of SHEEAAAGH

>>81895345
No idea, probably from the same site that let you analyze a pairing's affection and ecstasy from anal and vaginal intercourse based on the names alone, from yesterday's thread.
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>>81895555
No MERP MERP MERP?
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>>81884626
At what point should I stop reading RiD and go back to read issue 23?
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>>81896031
I have cropped the relevant portion of this:
>>81881245
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>>81896031
After issue 22 of each of MTMTE and RID, a big crossover event called Black Cybertron happened, which is interspersed between the two series. You'll be following that until MTMTE 28.
So it goes MTMTE & RID 22:
Dark Cybertron 1
Dark Cybertron 2 (MTMTE 23)
Dark Cybertron 3 (RID 23)
Dark Cybertron 4 (MTMTE 24)
(And so on...)
Dark Cybertron 11 (RID 27)
Dark Cybertron 12
MTMTE 28.
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>>81896316
>Black Cybertron
I don't think that's really necessary.
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>>81872654
Looks like somebody forgot Nominus exist.
Oh yeah, Prima too. Man, I hope he's a decent guy at least, too many corrupted Primes for my taste.
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>>81896460
Oh whoops. Brain screwed up there.
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>>81896460
Blacked Cybertron, then?
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>>81896464
>Past primes looking all regal

I want to see a fancy Optimus.
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>>81896572
BLACKEST OF BLACK
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>>81896464
Maybe Nominus didn't annex any worlds.
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>>81896709
He got to wear a crown once at least.
And both Megs and OP wore snazzy capes in Japanese G2.
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>>81896751
>>81896572
everyone is going to act like Jazz?
>you dig?
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I did hear Skybyte got a role in IDW comics, but the TFWiki says nothing.

Can you help me, /co/mrades?
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>>81897096
What about Streetwise?
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>>81897205
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Sky-Byte_%28G2%29#IDW_Generation_1_continuity
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>>81897402
looks like I was searching wrong,. thanks
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>>81897401

He's basically Robot Shaft.
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>>81897468
And he got the sign on his crotch.
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>>81894496
How are kids not supposed to love a big robot T-rex that keeps shouting about how much he rules?
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>>81898509
It's all about presentation. I dislike the G1 Grimlock but the Grimlock in RiD is likable.
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>>81894496
Budiansky's Grimlock is Simon Furman.
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Are Botcon comics good?
Or the club magazine comics?
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Last Stand of the Wreckers was a damn good read. Although I felt that the death of Ironfist was a little unnecessary but it made sense since he knew he was going to die and that's what made him join the wreckers in the first place.
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>>81883920
I love that the author knew that if you're gonna show Prime's mouth you'd better bring your A game.
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>>81902365
You should read the bonus stories that came with the hard cover version of LSOTW. It goes into more depth about Ironfist's condition.
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>>81872631
I wanted to ask how Obsidian can sit nicely, but his leg-tail thing is articulated, isn't it?
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Whoa whoa whoa.

A few months ago I read that RiD 2.0 was only going to be 2 seasons and a minimovie. Now it's getting 4 seasons?
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>>81903872
They can also turn into legs sometimes.
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>>81903872
Special chairs!
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>The people who left cybertron blames Optimus and the Autobots for the war and state of the planet and wants to forget him.
>Just like the NAILs in IDW

Did the Decepticons run some kind of interstellar propaganda or was Megatron acted out simillar to IDW Megatron and we only heard the Autobot's side of the story?
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>>81906977
Are they JUST blaming the Autobots for all the woes of the war, or are some Decepticons taking some heat?
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>>81908256
Not sure. I'm going by what Ratchet said.

"After we thought Optimus was no more I joined others to helping rebuild Cybertron. Over time however I learned they blamed Optimus and those who followed him for the ruination of our world and they wanted to forget he ever exsited."
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>>81908687
Is this from RiD?
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>>81909110
Yeah the latest episodes.
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>>81909210
Well, you could argue (from a Cybertronian's perspective) that Optimus was a continuation of the corruption within the Autobots' ranks, or a disruption in their lives.

We've see before in the real world how citizens in a war-torn country will blame one country (America, for instance) for all the death and destruction wrought upon them, even going so far as to blame them for the war in the first place.

Might not be explaining it right, though.
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So Optimus going back to Cybertron to investigate this new regime in the last episode. Shit sounds interesting if they really are going for a season 3.
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>>81909512

There's also the fact that in Prime Optimus and Megatron used to be friends and their break-up started the war.

To people outside of their inner circle it's pretty easy for some to think "Optimus and Megatron are both war-mongering violent assholes!"
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